Would it be ok to attack an Zevism member if they attack you?

[DragonWithin]

What I mean to say is, there is someone that I was close to for a while and I have ended up telling him about the truth and even getting him to the point of dedicating.

I now know that it was a mistake and I am a better judge now of who to trust and who to not. Especially when it comes to a path as delicate as this.

The thing is, now he's trying to bring people against me over a 2500 priced item that he wanted me to buy him but I refused because he does not do any sort of advancement for himself or even try to help himself in any way by getting a job or anything.

I'm thinking of putting an aura of repulsion around him for the group I'm in to bring people against him as well as use magic to bring aggression to and from him to make him make a bigger mistake for himself and bring people against him at the same time in order to get him out of my life so he wouldn't be able to bring anymore worry or harm to me or the people I care about.

Should I take matters into my hands and do that or ask the Gods to deal with it in this case since he has went to the point of dedication?

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

Hello

You don't necessarily have to do any magick. You can explain the situation to the others. Nobody has the right to try to get someone to buy them an expensive item, that is absurd. Everyone else will likely understand.

You can program energy so you part ways. If he doesn't belong with your group of people, then he shouldn't be there, especially as he doesn't seem to take Zevism seriously.

You can also ask your GD for help, especially if you are new. It is problematic to know people in real life, and you don't want to risk him telling people you are an Zevism.

Tyr rune is worth looking into, it will help the situation, as it is not right for him to cause problems all because you rightfully wouldn't buy him an expensive item.

 

[luis]

He wants you to buy him an expensive item? This is not something that someone with a brain would ask a friend to do, what rights does he have to ask you something like this? Just do a binding spell to make sure he stays away from you and your friends.

 

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

What I mean to say is, there is someone that I was close to for a while and I have ended up telling him about the truth and even getting him to the point of dedicating.

I now know that it was a mistake and I am a better judge now of who to trust and who to not. Especially when it comes to a path as delicate as this.

The thing is, now he's trying to bring people against me over a 2500 priced item that he wanted me to buy him but I refused because he does not do any sort of advancement for himself or even try to help himself in any way by getting a job or anything.

Hello. I am just wondering, have you persuaded them to dedicate and become a Zevist with the promise that you will buy them an expensive item? Or, has the person said to you that they will dedicate with the condition that you buy them an expensive item?
If not, by "getting them to the point of dedication", did you persuade them in other ways? If so, this is not right. People must dedicate and become spiritual Zevists totally out of their own initiative and thrist to learn the truth about spirituality and the Gods. Zevism is not for people who are not intending to do any meditation on themselves or any Ritual or effort, and just dedicate for the sake of having emtpy "faith" in the Gods as this is certainly not christianity. Zevism is a religion of action, active meditation and permament study. No person should ever be persuaded to dedicate if they have no interest in spirituality or in discovering the truth about the Gods, this is what will separate the honest and serious people to the "non-spiritualists" who are only preoccupied all day long with videogames, netflix and other useless nonsense that eats their existence alive.

 

[DragonWithin]

What I mean to say is, there is someone that I was close to for a while and I have ended up telling him about the truth and even getting him to the point of dedicating.

I now know that it was a mistake and I am a better judge now of who to trust and who to not. Especially when it comes to a path as delicate as this.

The thing is, now he's trying to bring people against me over a 2500 priced item that he wanted me to buy him but I refused because he does not do any sort of advancement for himself or even try to help himself in any way by getting a job or anything.

Hello. I am just wondering, have you persuaded them to dedicate and become a Zevist with the promise that you will buy them an expensive item? Or, has the person said to you that they will dedicate with the condition that you buy them an expensive item?
If not, by "getting them to the point of dedication", did you persuade them in other ways? If so, this is not right. People must dedicate and become spiritual Zevists totally out of their own initiative and thrist to learn the truth about spirituality and the Gods. Zevism is not for people who are not intending to do any meditation on themselves or any Ritual or effort, and just dedicate for the sake of having emtpy "faith" in the Gods as this is certainly not christianity. Zevism is a religion of action, active meditation and permament study. No person should ever be persuaded to dedicate if they have no interest in spirituality or in discovering the truth about the Gods, this is what will separate the honest and serious people to the "non-spiritualists" who are only preoccupied all day long with videogames, netflix and other useless nonsense that eats their existence alive.

No, I wouldn't make promises in that manner. I wasn't thinking of giving it in as a reward for something like that.

This was a while back that I've done so and I thought they would be persistent on the path if I said that it would help him out. I regret that now because I see that even then there was no way such a person could stick with a path like this.

For one, he was transgender and didn't seem to put much thought into learning much on history.

And, when I say close; it was more of a relationship. I did put it up as a means for me to stay with him in showing that he is willing to do things for himself, but then he ended up breaking that off a bit later and then came to me with what I said above.

I know that what I did was wrong and I take more care in what I tell people now and to who I tell these things to, how much as well for that matter.

 

[DragonWithin]

Hello. I am just wondering, have you persuaded them to dedicate and become a Zevist with the promise that you will buy them an expensive item? Or, has the person said to you that they will dedicate with the condition that you buy them an expensive item?
If not, by "getting them to the point of dedication", did you persuade them in other ways? If so, this is not right. People must dedicate and become spiritual Zevists totally out of their own initiative and thrist to learn the truth about spirituality and the Gods. Zevism is not for people who are not intending to do any meditation on themselves or any Ritual or effort, and just dedicate for the sake of having emtpy "faith" in the Gods as this is certainly not christianity. Zevism is a religion of action, active meditation and permament study. No person should ever be persuaded to dedicate if they have no interest in spirituality or in discovering the truth about the Gods, this is what will separate the honest and serious people to the "non-spiritualists" who are only preoccupied all day long with videogames, netflix and other useless nonsense that eats their existence alive.

I'll add to that, I wasn't sure to what extent being transgender would be bad and I even asked him in the beginning if he would give that up if I found out for sure that it was wrong, and he said he would, which he did; for a little bit and then went right back to it as I've found out recently...

 

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

I'll add to that, I wasn't sure to what extent being transgender would be bad and I even asked him in the beginning if he would give that up if I found out for sure that it was wrong, and he said he would, which he did; for a little bit and then went right back to it as I've found out recently...

There are endless people who are not interested into any sort of spiritual advancement, even if they become somewhat aware of it. The reasons being that they are too comfortable with their condition, lazy, ignorant etc. If your "friend" is such a person then you should explain to him that in Zevism people are expected to study, meditate and advance out of their own initiative, and that they shouldn't bother meditating if they are not interested in this. Let them study and figure out for themselves whether they really want to be serious about Zevism or not, and that you have no role or participation in his decisions.

Is this the reason he is upset with you? Did he think that if he will dedicate, he will have a very easy time advancing? I am trying to understand why is he exactly against you and trying to turn other people against you.

 

[Novice Priest Karnonnos]

I'll add to that, I wasn't sure to what extent being transgender would be bad and I even asked him in the beginning if he would give that up if I found out for sure that it was wrong, and he said he would, which he did; for a little bit and then went right back to it as I've found out recently...

Don't ever trust these Discord/chat service trans and so on. They are likely connected to Meteor and all those by the sounds of things, especially via the blackmail which is a typical hallmark of this scum. They were likely trying to con you from the beginning.

Satan does not hate transgender people, whatever the pitfalls and dangers of this, it is a personal choice. But these Discord 'trans' are NOT actually transgender, they would never have even transitioned twenty years ago. These kinds of people are manipulative and highly fetishistic individuals whose minds have been ruined by pornography, woman-hatred and attention-seeking. They are dime-a-dozen these days and latched on to the trans thing to give them the ultimate armor (as every liberal would rather jump off a bridge than avoid offending them).

 

[SoulSerpent]

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I'll add to that, I wasn't sure to what extent being transgender would be bad and I even asked him in the beginning if he would give that up if I found out for sure that it was wrong, and he said he would, which he did; for a little bit and then went right back to it as I've found out recently...

There are endless people who are not interested into any sort of spiritual advancement, even if they become somewhat aware of it. The reasons being that they are too comfortable with their condition, lazy, ignorant etc. If your "friend" is such a person then you should explain to him that in Zevism people are expected to study, meditate and advance out of their own initiative, and that they shouldn't bother meditating if they are not interested in this. Let them study and figure out for themselves whether they really want to be serious about Zevism or not, and that you have no role or participation in his decisions.

Is this the reason he is upset with you? Did he think that if he will dedicate, he will have a very easy time advancing? I am trying to understand why is he exactly against you and trying to turn other people against you.

Alright, I believe I'll have to reply here; only because I forgot my password on the other after having to set up a new computer.

The reason he is upset with me is because of what I said. Although I have rather "spoon fed" him the truth before, he hasn't ever done any research on these things for himself and I guess it could be a combination of him relying on me for all this and me telling him off when he wants me to buy something like that for him.

Other than that, what I said is all there really is to it.