Wicca cults

[dinodizdarevic211]

Shortly, one of my closest friends got into wiccan group, apparently it's a small group, led by one person who is 'experienced' in wicca, and they will meet up in about a month.
Members must purchase the book from that persons webpage in order to join and meet with others... And I have read their stuff on website (I would post it but it's not on english), and it's utter crap, so to say.
Most of all, they are VERY MUCH against Zevism, bashing it in every possible way, and she knows that I'm a Zevist, so she doesn't want to listen to me (I tried to tell her that it's just a con, they will use her to get money, or maybe even worse).

To let go or .. ? I can't reveal my identity or go there by myself either, as I'm not sure how agressive they might be, it could be dangerous to do so.

 

[Magus Immortalis]

I get the feeling that your friend is looking for a mentor, or someone to lead her. Many people are these days, searching for spirituality. "Gurus", authors, charismatic church/temple leaders...there seems to be no shortage of people trying to fill this position.Likely the leader of this group has some type of charisma in their writing, to get suckers to part with their money and their time.In the ToZ Advanced Meditation group, in the Files section, there are  "Books on Witchcraft." Why not show your friends these, they are pretty good, and when she compares their content to the hogwash that is in the "leader's" handbook, she will be able to tell the difference. And what about the Zevist Witchcraft section on ToZ? Witchcraft is very much hands on learning, finding things out for yourself, using your own powers, studying and reading, instead of depending on some person telling others what to do. Many people today are programmed to be sheep, to look for leaders, to do as they are told to do, with little thought to themselves, their own actions or future. Maybe suggest to her these things? She might not take it well, people don't like *at all* being told these things.Maybe she will stick it in the back of her mind to remember, maybe not. Some people are stubborn and are like, "you know nothing, I know what's best for me! .<" and plug their fingers in their ears while  you try to reason with them.They only learn once they trip on their feet and land on their face, and get a few bruises and cuts. 
If you decide to go, make a strong aura of protection. I also like to use Thurisaz for protection, seeing it glowing bright red as a wall in my aura, and around me too. Programming it to destroy my enemies.You can feel it. I used to do this a lot before going to the occult supply store (which was run by a coven of witches) because they were drama-queens and also very invasive and sneaky. It works.



From: dinodizdarevic211 <dinodizdarevic211@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:01:15 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Wicca cults

  Shortly, one of my closest friends got into wiccan group, apparently it's a small group, led by one person who is 'experienced' in wicca, and they will meet up in about a month.
Members must purchase the book from that persons webpage in order to join and meet with others... And I have read their stuff on website (I would post it but it's not on english), and it's utter crap, so to say.
Most of all, they are VERY MUCH against Zevism, bashing it in every possible way, and she knows that I'm a Zevist, so she doesn't want to listen to me (I tried to tell her that it's just a con, they will use her to get money, or maybe even worse).

To let go or .. ? I can't reveal my identity or go there by myself either, as I'm not sure how agressive they might be, it could be dangerous to do so.

 

[magus.immortalis1]

Oh, is there a picture of this leader? Probably they have a FB profile. You can ask your friend to see it. Then print out his picture, and do a binding ritual. Or a destruction one. Daily fuck up his aura and chakras with programmed dirty red-grey- energy if he's a real douchebag.

If they don't have a personal pic, you can print out their main webpage, where you *know* that is what they written, as their energy is in their words.
I did this with Christianity group posters from my school, and using them in destruction ritual.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:

I get the feeling that your friend is looking for a mentor, or someone to lead her. Many people are these days, searching for spirituality. "Gurus", authors, charismatic church/temple leaders...there seems to be no shortage of people trying to fill this position.
Likely the leader of this group has some type of charisma in their writing, to get suckers to part with their money and their time.
In the ToZ Advanced Meditation group, in the Files section, there are  "Books on Witchcraft." Why not show your friends these, they are pretty good, and when she compares their content to the hogwash that is in the "leader's" handbook, she will be able to tell the difference. And what about the Zevist Witchcraft section on ToZ? Witchcraft is very much hands on learning, finding things out for yourself, using your own powers, studying and reading, instead of depending on some person telling others what to do. 
Many people today are programmed to be sheep, to look for leaders, to do as they are told to do, with little thought to themselves, their own actions or future. Maybe suggest to her these things? She might not take it well, people don't like *at all* being told these things.
Maybe she will stick it in the back of her mind to remember, maybe not. Some people are stubborn and are like, "you know nothing, I know what's best for me! .<" and plug their fingers in their ears while  you try to reason with them.
They only learn once they trip on their feet and land on their face, and get a few bruises and cuts. 

If you decide to go, make a strong aura of protection. I also like to use Thurisaz for protection, seeing it glowing bright red as a wall in my aura, and around me too. Programming it to destroy my enemies.You can feel it. I used to do this a lot before going to the occult supply store (which was run by a coven of witches) because they were drama-queens and also very invasive and sneaky. It works.





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From: dinodizdarevic211 <dinodizdarevic211@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:01:15 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Wicca cults



 
Shortly, one of my closest friends got into wiccan group, apparently it's a small group, led by one person who is 'experienced' in wicca, and they will meet up in about a month.
Members must purchase the book from that persons webpage in order to join and meet with others... And I have read their stuff on website (I would post it but it's not on english), and it's utter crap, so to say.
Most of all, they are VERY MUCH against Zevism, bashing it in every possible way, and she knows that I'm a Zevist, so she doesn't want to listen to me (I tried to tell her that it's just a con, they will use her to get money, or maybe even worse).

To let go or .. ? I can't reveal my identity or go there by myself either, as I'm not sure how agressive they might be, it could be dangerous to do so.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Does she know that as a Zevist you have nothing to do with the enemy lies about Zevism and you're a good person? If not show that first for a period of time (BTW I'm not saying bragging, but showing that with your actions) and obviously if she's into that coven and they're treating her like shit and scamming her of her money she'll see Zevism is much better and regret of joining that wiccan BS group. The key here is to make everything appear genuine and not show off so that you'll attract her and even more people into Zevism. Let occasionally your mouth slip some interesting words like "power meditation", "telekinesis" but don't analyze them let her ask about them. And appear to not be interested in whether she joins that wiccan group or not. Remember if you talk to her directly about that you're only gonna make it worse as she's currently thinking you're bad somehow.

Now besides that, you can also do magickal workings to influence her or destruction rituals against the group members (not her), or rituals to expose them.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "dinodizdarevic211" <dinodizdarevic211@... wrote:

Shortly, one of my closest friends got into wiccan group, apparently it's a small group, led by one person who is 'experienced' in wicca, and they will meet up in about a month.
Members must purchase the book from that persons webpage in order to join and meet with others... And I have read their stuff on website (I would post it but it's not on english), and it's utter crap, so to say.
Most of all, they are VERY MUCH against Zevism, bashing it in every possible way, and she knows that I'm a Zevist, so she doesn't want to listen to me (I tried to tell her that it's just a con, they will use her to get money, or maybe even worse).

To let go or .. ? I can't reveal my identity or go there by myself either, as I'm not sure how agressive they might be, it could be dangerous to do so.

 

[Dino Dizdarevic]

She won't tell his name or give his link on facebook or anything, and she refuses to allow me to come with her -.-' He said (the leader) that he saw how Zevists sacrifice little kittens .. I mean seriously ...  From: Dino Dizdarevic <dinodizdarevic211@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Wicca cults

 
Thank you for answering.
Magus, the problem is that she was a hardcore pacifist even before entering this wicca cult, and while I appreciate your advices, I think fire starter's idea is better in the long term. This way his little cult will be exposed and all of those people who were fooled by him will be 'rescued', not only my friend.
Thank you once again.

Ave Zeus !

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On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 8:56 AM PDT the_fire_starter666 wrote:

I think a working to expose the leader is better in the long term than a destruction ritual. To expose not only the group as a scam, but wicca in general to the other members of that group. We've done similar workings for exposing the yehuborim' lies.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "magus.immortalis" <magus.immortalis@... wrote:

Oh, is there a picture of this leader? Probably they have a FB profile. You can ask your friend to see it. Then print out his picture, and do a binding ritual. Or a destruction one. Daily fuck up his aura and chakras with programmed dirty red-grey- energy if he's a real douchebag.

If they don't have a personal pic, you can print out their main webpage, where you *know* that is what they written, as their energy is in their words.
I did this with Christianity group posters from my school, and using them in destruction ritual.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@ wrote:

I get the feeling that your friend is looking for a mentor, or someone to lead her. Many people are these days, searching for spirituality. "Gurus", authors, charismatic church/temple leaders...there seems to be no shortage of people trying to fill this position.
Likely the leader of this group has some type of charisma in their writing, to get suckers to part with their money and their time.
In the ToZ Advanced Meditation group, in the Files section, there are  "Books on Witchcraft." Why not show your friends these, they are pretty good, and when she compares their content to the hogwash that is in the "leader's" handbook, she will be able to tell the difference. And what about the Zevist Witchcraft section on ToZ? Witchcraft is very much hands on learning, finding things out for yourself, using your own powers, studying and reading, instead of depending on some person telling others what to do.Â
Many people today are programmed to be sheep, to look for leaders, to do as they are told to do, with little thought to themselves, their own actions or future. Maybe suggest to her these things? She might not take it well, people don't like *at all* being told these things.
Maybe she will stick it in the back of her mind to remember, maybe not. Some people are stubborn and are like, "you know nothing, I know what's best for me! .<" and plug their fingers in their ears while  you try to reason with them.
They only learn once they trip on their feet and land on their face, and get a few bruises and cuts.Â

If you decide to go, make a strong aura of protection. I also like to use Thurisaz for protection, seeing it glowing bright red as a wall in my aura, and around me too. Programming it to destroy my enemies.You can feel it. I used to do this a lot before going to the occult supply store (which was run by a coven of witches) because they were drama-queens and also very invasive and sneaky. It works.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

In that case you can only do a daily working on her, to either cause her to expose that group or reveal more info about the leader and then try again after a month or so. Don't you have another friend who can contact her and pretend to be a wiccan???

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Dino Dizdarevic <dinodizdarevic211@... wrote:

She won't tell his name or give his link on facebook or anything, and she refuses to allow me to come with her -.-' He said (the leader) that he saw how Zevists sacrifice little kittens .. I mean seriously ... 

________________________________
From: Dino Dizdarevic <dinodizdarevic211@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Wicca cults



 

Thank you for answering.
Magus, the problem is that she was a hardcore pacifist even before entering this wicca cult, and while I appreciate your advices, I think fire starter's idea is better in the long term. This way his little cult will be exposed and all of those people who were fooled by him will be 'rescued', not only my friend.
Thank you once again.

Ave Zeus !

------------------------------
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 8:56 AM PDT the_fire_starter666 wrote:

I think a working to expose the leader is better in the long term than a destruction ritual. To expose not only the group as a scam, but wicca in general to the other members of that group. We've done similar workings for exposing the yehuborim' lies.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "magus.immortalis" <magus.immortalis@ wrote:

Oh, is there a picture of this leader? Probably they have a FB profile. You can ask your friend to see it. Then print out his picture, and do a binding ritual. Or a destruction one. Daily fuck up his aura and chakras with programmed dirty red-grey- energy if he's a real douchebag.

If they don't have a personal pic, you can print out their main webpage, where you *know* that is what they written, as their energy is in their words.
I did this with Christianity group posters from my school, and using them in destruction ritual.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@ wrote:

I get the feeling that your friend is looking for a mentor, or someone to lead her. Many people are these days, searching for spirituality. "Gurus", authors, charismatic church/temple leaders...there seems to be no shortage of people trying to fill this position.
Likely the leader of this group has some type of charisma in their writing, to get suckers to part with their money and their time.
In the ToZ Advanced Meditation group, in the Files section, there are  "Books on Witchcraft." Why not show your friends these, they are pretty good, and when she compares their content to the hogwash that is in the "leader's" handbook, she will be able to tell the difference. And what about the Zevist Witchcraft section on ToZ? Witchcraft is very much hands on learning, finding things out for yourself, using your own powers, studying and reading, instead of depending on some person telling others what to do.Â
Many people today are programmed to be sheep, to look for leaders, to do as they are told to do, with little thought to themselves, their own actions or future. Maybe suggest to her these things? She might not take it well, people don't like *at all* being told these things.
Maybe she will stick it in the back of her mind to remember, maybe not. Some people are stubborn and are like, "you know nothing, I know what's best for me! .<" and plug their fingers in their ears while  you try to reason with them.
They only learn once they trip on their feet and land on their face, and get a few bruises and cuts.Â

If you decide to go, make a strong aura of protection. I also like to use Thurisaz for protection, seeing it glowing bright red as a wall in my aura, and around me too. Programming it to destroy my enemies.You can feel it. I used to do this a lot before going to the occult supply store (which was run by a coven of witches) because they were drama-queens and also very invasive and sneaky. It works.