What's Currently Still Being Fixed After Migration

I frequently use the Search to find things that I have written before, or things that other people have written before, so that I can copy this message and share it as an answer where somebody is asking about this. I often write very long messages when I am explaining something, so it is impossible for me to remember everything that I wrote without forgetting to include things. Especially if I wrote the message a long time ago.

Now that the old forum has been removed, the Search is also gone. Tens of thousands of posts from several years are no longer possible to be found in a search. They might as well have all been completely deleted everything, because without a search it is impossible to find any of these. The only thing that the Search is able to find now is what has been written in the past couple days on the new forum.

Search, which is one of the top most important features, is now gone. I have multiple posts I have written before that I am wanting to copy and share as a response to questions that have been asked, and I am not able to access these so I am not able to answer and help these people with this information. But at least now people can click "like" on a comment. I think the "like" is a good idea, but I can't see how any of this was worth it. Everything that we have lost with this update was much more valuable than what we have gained.

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If that would be true why did I find a post made by before platform update by using the search here?

If that would be true why did I find a post made by before platform update by using the search here?

Remember Ol's post on karma?
Search for the keyword "karma", not a topic title, and author is @Ol argedco luciftias.
You can't find it because it was a comment and it is impossible to search for comments that was made on the previous fourms.

Remember Ol's post on karma?
Search for the keyword "karma", not a topic title, and author is @Ol argedco luciftias.
You can't find it because it was a comment and it is impossible to search for comments that was made on the previous fourms.

I see.

That is a big issue indeed.

Remember Ol's post on karma?
Search for the keyword "karma", not a topic title, and author is @Ol argedco luciftias.
You can't find it because it was a comment and it is impossible to search for comments that was made on the previous fourms.

I ran a bunch of keywords such as "addiction" and so on, as these are posts with replies that can help others. They do not show up in the search results.

Yes, it is impossible to search for replies, but not only trough the search function.

If you go to anyone's profile and "postings" OR find -> find all content by... It won't display the replies that they have posted on the previous forum, the only replies it will display is the ones you made in the current forum.

My guess it is because the replies does not have titles anymore, and they got stored differently than how they are now.

I think the best solution would be, to host the previous forum, with the previous database, and the previous system. People should not be able to register or login there, but everyone should be able to use the search function.
This way we can access the previous things completely fine without bugs.

And me personally I would delete all previous stuff from THIS forum so we prevent bugs and so on. That database is almost incompatible with this system.
That archivated forum would be hosted under ancient-forums.com, so than the old links would work COMPLETELY.
And I would host this forum under jos-forums.org or something.

Yes, it is impossible to search for replies, but not only trough the search function.

If you go to anyone's profile and "postings" OR find -> find all content by... It won't display the replies that they have posted on the previous forum, the only replies it will display is the ones you made in the current forum.

My guess it is because the replies does not have titles anymore, and they got stored differently than how they are now.

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That my idea
@ApolloAbove [SG]
@Henu the Great
@Hp. Zevios Metathronos

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(it also looks like that I'm unable to @ HPS lydia because her name start with [] and it does not want to recognize it)

@AFODO It seems I might have to change my name to remove the brackets. We'll look into it, thanks for bringing this up. I find the tagging ability very useful.

Remember Ol's post on karma?
Search for the keyword "karma", not a topic title, and author is @Ol argedco luciftias.
You can't find it because it was a comment and it is impossible to search for comments that was made on the previous fourms.

That's exactly what I was looking for when I found this problem.

Yes, it is impossible to search for replies, but not only trough the search function.

If you go to anyone's profile and "postings" OR find -> find all content by... It won't display the replies that they have posted on the previous forum, the only replies it will display is the ones you made in the current forum.

My guess it is because the replies does not have titles anymore, and they got stored differently than how they are now.

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Or we could just go back to what we had before, which was working perfectly for like 7 years. And undo all of this bullshit. I searched in the regular search, and I went to my profile and searched just in my messages that I made, and neither of these are functional.

Who gives a fuck about adding a few more colors and pictures and a couple features from twitter if the core functionality of the forum is dead? The whole point of this forum existing is that the forum is supposed to be functional so people can use it to share information and educate people. If you want twitter, then go to twitter. But there is a true and important purpose for our forum to exist, and this has been killed. I would rather have something that looks plain and simple and works perfectly in every way, instead of something that looks complicated and colorful and does not work at all.

This update is like if I burned down your home, then I say it's okay look at this new shed I got for you. Look at the bright paint on the new shed, isn't it more colorful looking?

Meanwhile everything you owned that was in your home was all lost and gone. And the new shed has no electricity, no water, no heat, no air conditioner, no way to cook food. But it has some small feature added like a welcome mat to clean your shoes, so you're told it is a great improvement.

In the future:

There are some concerns regarding the site, particularly the search query restrictions. Currently, I am unable to search for common 3-character words, a functionality that was available before the forum changes. Is it possible to reduce this restriction to 2-3 characters, with a preference for the former? This adjustment would be beneficial due to the prevalence of abbreviations, including those with such low character counts like "Zevism" and "HPS".

Another issue involves clicking on any image within the featured content section, which results in a logout from the redirected page. Consequently, I need to switch back to the previous page to remain logged in. This complicates my search process as I must either manually navigate the forums or use specific keywords for searching.

Lastly, is there a setting in the profile that allows for hiding the buttons covering part of the banner? This issue prevents me from viewing my full banner, and I would appreciate guidance on resolving this matter. If that feature is not implemented as of now, I am willing to wait for its inclusion.

Or we could just go back to what we had before, which was working perfectly for like 7 years. And undo all of this bullshit. I searched in the regular search, and I went to my profile and searched just in my messages that I made, and neither of these are functional.

Who gives a fuck about adding a few more colors and pictures and a couple features from twitter if the core functionality of the forum is dead? The whole point of this forum existing is that the forum is supposed to be functional so people can use it to share information and educate people. If you want twitter, then go to twitter. But there is a true and important purpose for our forum to exist, and this has been killed. I would rather have something that looks plain and simple and works perfectly in every way, instead of something that looks complicated and colorful and does not work at all.

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The problem is that the previous database is not 100% compatible with this system. I think this forum could be made to function better than the previous with few updates, however, it will never work right with the previous database. I do also think that the previous forum was enough in terms of complexity, functionality, and look (only a dark theme was needed on my part).

I understand your feelings about this, I hope that everything will solved eventually. Also keep in mind that upgrades and changes are needed, this modern look might be more appealing for newcomers, even if I'm highly on the side of minimalism for a hundred reasons.

Sorry if this has been mentioned but it would be nice to have a notification when our posts have been approved by moderators. I know you guys are working on putting the prior ones off-mod again but the above would still be convenient for those still on mod.

Sorry if this has been mentioned but it would be nice to have a notification when our posts have been approved by moderators. I know you guys are working on putting the prior ones off-mod again but the above would still be convenient for those still on mod.

I mentioned that, and yes this would be very good.

Laugh out loud I don't know about you? I am still trying to figure out a lot of the new mechanics here on this new form! I like it and yet at the same time it's kind of tedious! You have to be careful what you post and how you post it? Following the rules the best I can and I know that we are all into this! Trying to get everything back in order and I noticed that a lot of people are still getting used to it

There are some concerns regarding the site, particularly the search query restrictions. Currently, I am unable to search for common 3-character words, a functionality that was available before the forum changes. Is it possible to reduce this restriction to 2-3 characters, with a preference for the former? This adjustment would be beneficial due to the prevalence of abbreviations, including those with such low character counts like "Zevism" and "HPS".

Another issue involves clicking on any image within the featured content section, which results in a logout from the redirected page. Consequently, I need to switch back to the previous page to remain logged in. This complicates my search process as I must either manually navigate the forums or use specific keywords for searching.

Lastly, is there a setting in the profile that allows for hiding the buttons covering part of the banner? This issue prevents me from viewing my full banner, and I would appreciate guidance on resolving this matter. If that feature is not implemented as of now, I am willing to wait for its inclusion.

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1. Sure, can be changed.

2. Not sure what is going on with your browser, does not log me out at all. Perhaps you are preventing your login session cookies from being stored?

3. There is no setting for this, and will take time to implement. I am the only person who is currently fixing bugs for this migration.

This update is like if I burned down your home, then I say it's okay look at this new shed I got for you. Look at the bright paint on the new shed, isn't it more colorful looking?

Meanwhile everything you owned that was in your home was all lost and gone. And the new shed has no electricity, no water, no heat, no air conditioner, no way to cook food. But it has some small feature added like a welcome mat to clean your shoes, so you're told it is a great improvement.

I think you are overreacting. We discovered that the original forum software was simply not up to code to handle huge influxes of new users. We were dealing with constant spambots from the failing captcha, and other issues began culminating in a slowness of the forums. Moderating it took significant amounts of time, due to software limitations. Many times in life, as you must know, you need to take a few steps back, cut out what isn't working, and rebuild a stronger foundation.

HP and I personally decided on the software and the changes to make, and I personally handled the importing of the data. It is very easy to complain, but much harder to step up and carry responsibilities on your shoulders to drive JoS forward. We are moving JoS from just a forum community, to a real, living community that will exist outside of just a forum. We are going to need to attract newbies from all over the world, and the old forum was not capable of doing this.

If you are desperate to make these changes, please contact me ([ email redacted ]) and we can work to program these new features together. Otherwise if you are just going to throw your hands up and complain, then things will remain as they are.

I'm learning to get used to this new format! And yes it takes getting some use to! I see a lot of people are not happy with the new changes! It's just the people need to learn to get used to the things that they can do on here? It's going to take some time and it's going to take a minute but then again people will still be able to do the things that they used to on here just the same

Or we could just go back to what we had before, which was working perfectly for like 7 years. And undo all of this bullshit. I searched in the regular search, and I went to my profile and searched just in my messages that I made, and neither of these are functional.

Who gives a fuck about adding a few more colors and pictures and a couple features from twitter if the core functionality of the forum is dead? The whole point of this forum existing is that the forum is supposed to be functional so people can use it to share information and educate people. If you want twitter, then go to twitter. But there is a true and important purpose for our forum to exist, and this has been killed. I would rather have something that looks plain and simple and works perfectly in every way, instead of something that looks complicated and colorful and does not work at all.

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These are genuine bugs and not "features" of the new system, and will be fixed in time. Some patience is required here, as for example this search bug was not even known until now.

The main point of moving to this platform was because it could support the future growth of JoS. The older forums was also functionally limited, not just aesthetically, hence why the desire for improvement arose. That does not mean some obstacles to these upgrades wouldn't happen, or can't ever be fixed.

This update is like if I burned down your home, then I say it's okay look at this new shed I got for you. Look at the bright paint on the new shed, isn't it more colorful looking?

Meanwhile everything you owned that was in your home was all lost and gone. And the new shed has no electricity, no water, no heat, no air conditioner, no way to cook food. But it has some small feature added like a welcome mat to clean your shoes, so you're told it is a great improvement.

There is active work to solve these problems as they represent problems for us too, which are far more important.

Your comments are heavy, irrational, providing some feedback yes, but mostly extreme exaggerations. You are taking your claims too far, only because you have some issue with styling or whatever.

The fact you want a simple hut to justify your emotional aspects over the previous forum, which everyone loved [it's the same forum, same content, more functionalities], is not in consistency with the reality of what must be done.

The last forum software was crawling at 250 visitors, and you want it "back". So it can lag and leave us in the middle of the road, I guess.

The imagined situation is more like this: You had a house, you couldn't fit in it, it was falling apart. So some people come in and move you to a mansion to a better and safer place. You cry while you leave your house of course but the tornado, hacking or whatever, was going to topple it anyway.

Then these people take you to a mansion instead, and you complain because you have to wait for 3-4 days to get your new suntan bed and because someone didn't bring you the correct suntan lotion.

Now the slight joking aside, please be patient as these issues are being resolved.

[QUOTE="HPS Lydia, post: 483254, member: 57"]
I ran a bunch of keywords such as "addiction" and so on, as these are posts with replies that can help others. They do not show up in the search results.
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Thanks for informing, we will look into this and seek to resolve it.

[QUOTE="AFODO, post: 483378, member: 74290"]
The problem is that the previous database is not 100% compatible with this system. I think this forum could be made to function better than the previous with few updates, however, it will never work right with the previous database. I do also think that the previous forum was enough in terms of complexity, functionality, and look (only a dark theme was needed on my part).

I understand your feelings about this, I hope that everything will solved eventually. Also keep in mind that upgrades and changes are needed, this modern look might be more appealing for newcomers, even if I'm highly on the side of minimalism for a hundred reasons.
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Never is a big word, there will certainly be some differences, but there are also some perks. One of the perks is that if certain programmers respond, we are going to do tremendous things for the forums, for both the history of the JoS and the future. None of this was possible in the previous software.

Perhaps one of the most cautious people to certain changes has been me. There was endless forethought and planning for this that goes back 3 years in time.

However, if you see a forum software collapsing over 250 active users, you cannot expect the 25k active users to be lifted by it.

This platform for example, can and might support in the future a minimalist theme. The previous one wasn't even loading the pages, and it was a heavily paid, armored and powerful server, still to no avail because the software sucked.

My best recommendation for future points on all of these matters is to not try to judge the whole universe based on the size of your own shoes, because you will more than likely understand that bigger things cannot exist within the confine of this "comfort".

I would not be unhappy with this update if it was actually functional. I would not care about the changes in how it looks if everything worked correctly. But when the most important things are broken and it appears that the only thing gained is a different look, that is not an equal trade.

I am not so unhappy about this just for an emotional reason or for any small reason. But when you throw away tens of thousands of posts of valuable information by making it impossible to search and access any of these, people are not going to be happy about this. And it is not just an emotional reaction based on nothing for this loss to make people angry. Or the loss of other features like the preview.

I don't know any programming. But I do work on repairing, modifying, and upgrading systems that are each used by hundreds of people per day and thousands of people per year. If I have to shut something down while working on it, people are already unhappy. If I do something wrong and I have something stuck as non functioning, everything is fucked up and it's all my fault. So the way I work every day is a similar situation as doing an upgrade like this. I don't touch or change anything without understanding exactly what it will do. I don't touch or change anything unless I am certain that I can put it back exactly the way that it was. I do something, then I immediately test it to see that is is correctly functioning the way that I expect it to, then I move to the next thing. I never change a hundred things at one time without testing them. And if I change something and it ends up not being functional, I immediately put it back the way it was so that it is functional, and then can try something different.

Even if my work is not with programming, the procedures while doing it are the same. Because this is how to avoid all of these kinds of problems. I'm not just talking as somebody with no similar experience.