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Vpn for your phone

Aquarius

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Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search.
I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves that they don't keep logs.
 
Aquarius said:
Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search.
I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves that they don't keep logs.
Be careful. Using a VPN (or Tor) on a phone is like locking your door to keep a burglar out when the burglar is already inside. It encrypts data between your phone and the internet, that's all. This has two benefits:
1. It hides your IP address from the websites you visit.
2. It protects your data en route, so that nobody between you and the VPN server can read your data or see what website you're visiting.
While this provides some anonymity, phones (and Windows 10) have a bad reputation for leaking tons of personal data. This data, which may include your browsing history and GPS location, would be happily sent through the VPN to whatever company requested it, telling them exactly who you are, where you are, and what you've been doing.

The best option is something like Whonix on Linux. As far as I know, Apple and Google phones will always track you. If you must use a phone, and are willing to do a little work, I would recommend that you get a non-Google Android phone, root it, remove all OEM software except the cellular carrier, and run a network sniffer for a while to make sure that nothing is being sent.

With that said, if you value your privacy on a phone, a VPN is better than nothing. Going back to my burglar analogy, although the locked door won't prevent the burglar who's already inside from stealing, it should prevent other burglars from entering. Using no VPN (and non-secure HTTP) is like leaving your door wide open.
 
Aquarius said:
Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search.
I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves that they don't keep logs.
IOS is no longer what it was unfortunately, there are other problems to, when you do the backup in icloud and sign out icloud you may be surprised to have all your contacts deleted ...

About this NordVpn, how did you paid, they have paysafecard payment ?

For Android users there is https://protonvpn.com/blog/f-droid-download/
 
Soaring Eagle 666 said:
Aquarius said:
Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search.
I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves that they don't keep logs.
Be careful. Using a VPN (or Tor) on a phone is like locking your door to keep a burglar out when the burglar is already inside. It encrypts data between your phone and the internet, that's all. This has two benefits:
1. It hides your IP address from the websites you visit.
2. It protects your data en route, so that nobody between you and the VPN server can read your data or see what website you're visiting.
While this provides some anonymity, phones (and Windows 10) have a bad reputation for leaking tons of personal data. This data, which may include your browsing history and GPS location, would be happily sent through the VPN to whatever company requested it, telling them exactly who you are, where you are, and what you've been doing.

The best option is something like Whonix on Linux. As far as I know, Apple and Google phones will always track you. If you must use a phone, and are willing to do a little work, I would recommend that you get a non-Google Android phone, root it, remove all OEM software except the cellular carrier, and run a network sniffer for a while to make sure that nothing is being sent.

With that said, if you value your privacy on a phone, a VPN is better than nothing. Going back to my burglar analogy, although the locked door won't prevent the burglar who's already inside from stealing, it should prevent other burglars from entering. Using no VPN (and non-secure HTTP) is like leaving your door wide open.
can you tell us which are the non-google android phones?
 
Aquarius said:
Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search.
I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves that they don't keep logs.
Yo did they pay you too to say this? :lol:
 
Thanks guys, indeed proton looks more trustworthy.
Syd Silver said:
Aquarius said:
Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search.
I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves that they don't keep logs.
IOS is no longer what it was unfortunately, there are other problems to, when you do the backup in icloud and sign out icloud you may be surprised to have all your contacts deleted ...

About this NordVpn, how did you paid, they have paysafecard payment ?

For Android users there is https://protonvpn.com/blog/f-droid-download/
I didn't pay, I easily found free premium accounts online. That actually seems sketchy now that I write it.
 
Aquarius said:
Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search.
I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves that they don't keep logs.
Want privacy for a mobile device? Does not exist.
The best you can do is rent a VPS or buy a raspberry pi (with static public IP), set it up with Linux or BSD, install the tor package on it (not tor browser) and make it up so you have it working as a OpenVPN server that routes the traffic to the tor network.

Your phone <---> VPS/RPi (OVPN) <---> Tor <---> Internet

Anyway, if you want privacy and security, just use foss unix with tor, no way around that whatsoever.
 
WiseDragon said:
Aquarius said:
Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search.
I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves that they don't keep logs.
Yo did they pay you too to say this? :lol:
Noo :lol:
It actually came out to me as advertising too, but I didn't know what else to write.
 
satanama666 said:
Soaring Eagle 666 said:
The best option is something like Whonix on Linux. As far as I know, Apple and Google phones will always track you. If you must use a phone, and are willing to do a little work, I would recommend that you get a non-Google Android phone, root it, remove all OEM software except the cellular carrier, and run a network sniffer for a while to make sure that nothing is being sent.
can you tell us which are the non-google android phones?
Google makes the Pixel and previously the Nexus phones, which run Android. By non-Google, I was referring to basically any brand of that runs Android but is not sold by Google. (But probably not Huawei.) Off-hand, I think Samsung phones have less tracking out of the box, and there are guides for reducing it even further. But, as I said before, you really shouldn't use a phone for anything anonymous if you can avoid it.
 
Aquarius said:
Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search.
I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves that they don't keep logs.

This website is very helpful for people who are new to vpn stuff but some stuff could be outdated for a while. https://thatoneprivacysite.net/

Check out this post on reddit, https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/b1tybt/is_there_really_a_vpn_that_really_keeps_no_logs/
Also the owner of the website I mentioned above, his reddit profile: https://www.reddit.com/user/ThatOnePrivacyGuy
 
satanama666 said:
Soaring Eagle 666 said:
Aquarius said:
Unfortunately the onion browser for ios makes browsing extremely slow so I've opted for a vpn, and I'm using NordVpn, it's 100/€ a year but you can find premium accounts for free in a couple minutes if you search.
I've also just read that Nordvpn has just passed some security check that prooves that they don't keep logs.
Be careful. Using a VPN (or Tor) on a phone is like locking your door to keep a burglar out when the burglar is already inside. It encrypts data between your phone and the internet, that's all. This has two benefits:
1. It hides your IP address from the websites you visit.
2. It protects your data en route, so that nobody between you and the VPN server can read your data or see what website you're visiting.
While this provides some anonymity, phones (and Windows 10) have a bad reputation for leaking tons of personal data. This data, which may include your browsing history and GPS location, would be happily sent through the VPN to whatever company requested it, telling them exactly who you are, where you are, and what you've been doing.

The best option is something like Whonix on Linux. As far as I know, Apple and Google phones will always track you. If you must use a phone, and are willing to do a little work, I would recommend that you get a non-Google Android phone, root it, remove all OEM software except the cellular carrier, and run a network sniffer for a while to make sure that nothing is being sent.

With that said, if you value your privacy on a phone, a VPN is better than nothing. Going back to my burglar analogy, although the locked door won't prevent the burglar who's already inside from stealing, it should prevent other burglars from entering. Using no VPN (and non-secure HTTP) is like leaving your door wide open.
can you tell us which are the non-google android phones?
seriously,i'm curious
 
satanama666 said:
seriously,i'm curious
Avoid Android phones and tablets (but really anything, smart TVs, wearables, ..) at all cost, even non-Google versions of android.
 
Pirate11 said:
satanama666 said:
seriously,i'm curious
Avoid Android phones and tablets (but really anything, smart TVs, wearables, ..) at all cost, even non-Google versions of android.
I guess ios devices are a better choice? But what else is there that is not an android/ios device and that doesn't spy you?
The Pinephone is still bad as a general use phone and the same can be said about the purism phone.
 

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