VERY negative spiritual experience

[pqkiller]

<pre> Hi all, I was hoping to get some input here from a High Priest/ess as I
have had an extremely negative experience involving LSD and a very
powerful spiritual encounter with a person who Im not sure was in total
control of what happened.

Basically, me and a friend, who is an atheist who dabbles in spiritual
work but was an xian throughout childhood were on LSD together, not
something I do often, I try to stay away from drugs altogether. Now,
having had heightened spiritual awareness at the time, I started a
spiritual exchange with my friend, by means of telepathy through the third
eye. He responded to it instantly, and I could hear and feel his thoughts
also. Almost immediately, he became particularly arrogant of his prowess
and made it known by striking me in the face. As he did so, I could see
his body lit up with spiritual energy and I was defenseless to his blow.
To cut what could be quite a long story down, this interaction continued
and he stated that he was the only god and demanded I bow to him. He could
hear me venerating Satan in my mind and it made him angry. He became
physically violent to the point where he would have killed me right there
and then had I not done as he asked. I shudder when I write this still,
but I felt strong flowing white light pick up my etheral body, and force
me to my knees. This made him very happy, and like a sick little spoilt
brat, he danced, it reminded me somewhat of the filthy nazarene and how I
imagine he celebrates.

Once Again I venerated Satan in my mind, despite the fact I was bowing to
the monster my friend had become, and this made him very angry, and I felt
his energy surge through me maliciously, as he advanced on me, I had no
other choice than to close my mind of my belief and venerate him as
god.... After this he motioned for me to please him sexually, at which
point I grabbed my shit and bailed hard, running down the road as quick as
I could, into a taxi and home....

He has since apologised for his actions although the following night I
performed a destruction ritual. However, since the event, I have felt
quite ashamed of my own lack of strength in the situation, and although
having firm resolve to not take drugs again whatsoever, I fear I might
have closed the door between myself and Satan which makes me sick to think
about.

I guess the real question here is not of my service to Satan, as it is
unrelenting, but simply to seek out if any of you have had any similar
experiences, I am almost certain that my *friend* has either gone mad with
power and deluded himself, or I faced a very real, very powerful entity
that night, crippling me because I was under the effects of drugs and
lacked control. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Ave Satanas!
.. . .. . .. . .. .. ... .... . . . ... . .. ... .

type_D
. ... .. . ... . . . .... ... .. .. . .. . .. . .. </pre>

 

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Firstly, I think it is important to state that the use of illegal substances is neither supported or encouraged, in fact it is highly discouraged, particularly by the Joy of Satan Ministries.

The reasons for this are not singular. Primarily narcotics, of any kind, produce holes in the Aura and leave one open to infiltration, either trough invasion or manipulation.

In your own particular case I think you will probably find the psychoactive effect of the hallucinogen has brought about the events that unfolded. Before taking the "Drug" your atheist "friend" no doubt held, and possibly still holds a desire towards yourself. Being aware of your devotion to Our Father his subconscious sought through the manipulation of the psychoactive drug to "impose" his own desires through degradation of your own.

Your own mind was fighting the effect of the hallucinogen in the face of this manipulation through reinforcement of your own faith. Sounds to me like Satan brought you home in one piece. The alternative would have been rape perhaps, under the circumstances.

People get very confused with the Spiritual Application of Narcotics. We are not Witch Doctors living in the Brazilian jungles, who through years of ancestoral practice has gained a deep understanding of such substances and their uses. Western culture and understanding of psychoactive substances is reduced to the "addict" the "dealer" and the "dance floor", very different to any Spiritual application, and therefore really should be avoided in order to maintain a healthy mind, a healthy body and a healthy Soul.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@... wrote:

Hi all, I was hoping to get some input here from a High Priest/ess as I
have had an extremely negative experience involving LSD and a very
powerful spiritual encounter with a person who Im not sure was in total
control of what happened.

Basically, me and a friend, who is an atheist who dabbles in spiritual
work but was an xian throughout childhood were on LSD together, not
something I do often, I try to stay away from drugs altogether. Now,
having had heightened spiritual awareness at the time, I started a
spiritual exchange with my friend, by means of telepathy through the
third
eye. He responded to it instantly, and I could hear and feel his
thoughts
also. Almost immediately, he became particularly arrogant of his prowess
and made it known by striking me in the face. As he did so, I could see
his body lit up with spiritual energy and I was defenseless to his blow.
To cut what could be quite a long story down, this interaction continued
and he stated that he was the only god and demanded I bow to him. He
could
hear me venerating Satan in my mind and it made him angry. He became
physically violent to the point where he would have killed me right
there
and then had I not done as he asked. I shudder when I write this still,
but I felt strong flowing white light pick up my etheral body, and force
me to my knees. This made him very happy, and like a sick little spoilt
brat, he danced, it reminded me somewhat of the filthy nazarene and how
I
imagine he celebrates.

Once Again I venerated Satan in my mind, despite the fact I was bowing
to
the monster my friend had become, and this made him very angry, and I
felt
his energy surge through me maliciously, as he advanced on me, I had no
other choice than to close my mind of my belief and venerate him as
god.... After this he motioned for me to please him sexually, at which
point I grabbed my shit and bailed hard, running down the road as quick
as
I could, into a taxi and home....

He has since apologised for his actions although the following night I
performed a destruction ritual. However, since the event, I have felt
quite ashamed of my own lack of strength in the situation, and although
having firm resolve to not take drugs again whatsoever, I fear I might
have closed the door between myself and Satan which makes me sick to
think
about.

I guess the real question here is not of my service to Satan, as it is
unrelenting, but simply to seek out if any of you have had any similar
experiences, I am almost certain that my *friend* has either gone mad
with
power and deluded himself, or I faced a very real, very powerful entity
that night, crippling me because I was under the effects of drugs and
lacked control. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Ave Satanas!
.. . .. . .. . .. .. ... .... . . . ... . .. ... .

type_D
. ... .. . ... . . . .... ... .. .. . .. . .. . ..

 

[pqkiller]

<pre> Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background. From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes, it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence, outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas! </pre>

 

[jahfersace]

Hi, I'm not of the ministry but would like to share some thoughts on this. Acid alone as if not being enough, seems to have been coupled by a nasty critter your friend probably met while messing with the wrong stuff. Now, being weak is no shame when you see what you're up against, on the other hand we can do so much more than that. Training is the answer if you ask me. Once everyone's gone through the six monts we'll all be able to take on multiple nasties at once. I also want to say that I agree with Dragonwolfs post, however there are some of us that have a living tradition of using plants for many purposes in life and some of those plants can be seen as drugs (if ingested by some city boy/girl).

Slava Satan!!
MummuinaKi

 

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Dude,

Just my opinion here mixed with some facts.

Some may not agree here, but all those things are drugs, including weed. A drug can be anything that alters body chemistry, and that is what weed does. LSD is more extreme I'm sure. Anything else can also have drug like effects like vitamins and supplements, and food to a milder degree if taken enough.

Ontop of that, whether you manifest your intentions or do spiritual warfare, drugs will make you vulnerable, because it will imbalance whatever you have in you or cause you problems, and that will be prime meat for the wolves... As it is easier to take care of an enemy through their weakness. Then there are certain facts like the burnout and desensitization effects it can permanently have on the body, killing braincells and effecting "attention span" which will affect focus which is everything... imagine how that effects your workings.





From: "vgorazd"
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:04:07 -0000
To: <[email protected]
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience
Hi, I'm not of the ministry but would like to share some thoughts on this. Acid alone as if not being enough, seems to have been coupled by a nasty critter your friend probably met while messing with the wrong stuff. Now, being weak is no shame when you see what you're up against, on the other hand we can do so much more than that. Training is the answer if you ask me. Once everyone's gone through the six monts we'll all be able to take on multiple nasties at once. I also want to say that I agree with Dragonwolfs post, however there are some of us that have a living tradition of using plants for many purposes in life and some of those plants can be seen as drugs (if ingested by some city boy/girl).

Slava Satan!!
MummuinaKi

 

[[email protected]]

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@... wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[williams4033]

It is also important to note that the Illuminati have been controlling their puppets for centuries with giving them drugs in secret societies.

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

Jake
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "in_his_name_666" <rthar86@... wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[Andre1]

yea your right that isnt any excuse. lets think here. lsd leaves you open to all sortsa crazy thoughts, and its a really long deal. why dont you find him sometime when he's frying and push him toawrds expieriencing a nightmare?
Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "forgotten.identity@..." <forgotten.identity@... wrote:

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

Yes, druggies are easy targets if you find them to be worthless people who only take up space (but that goes for any individual who isn't a Spiritual Satanist). I neither condemn nor condone recreational use of pot or occasional alcohol use, but I personally gave it up on November 10th, 2009. That was the last straw. Many of my friends at the time had already lost their minds because within a period of 2 years, they had taken over 700 hits of LSD. When camping with my best friend (I didn't tell him that I had a crush on him until after moving to Arizona and he couldn't believe that I wasn't straight [good guy despite the drugs]) and a couple visitors from Ohio, I saw my friend take 12 hits of acid. Needless to say, none of us slept that night.

I couldn't believe it that he actually remembered me and what I was like.

One other creepy thing I remember is that this other friend (well, actually I hated him) was tripping and he thought that he had died, so he took all of the clothes off his fat-ass body and started burying them and then ran down the highway totally naked and was arrested and put into an asylum. Wouldn't be surprised if that fat-ass is in jail by now.

People who are on drugs like that who are your enemies are wide and open targets.

666/88!!

Jake
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Andre" <darkfury211@... wrote:

yea your right that isnt any excuse. lets think here. lsd leaves you open to all sortsa crazy thoughts, and its a really long deal. why dont you find him sometime when he's frying and push him toawrds expieriencing a nightmare?
Hail Satan!




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "forgotten.identity@" <forgotten.identity@ wrote:

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

My bad. Not 2009. January 10th, 2000. Going on 9 years ago.

666/88!!

Jake
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@... wrote:

Yes, druggies are easy targets if you find them to be worthless people who only take up space (but that goes for any individual who isn't a Spiritual Satanist). I neither condemn nor condone recreational use of pot or occasional alcohol use, but I personally gave it up on November 10th, 2009. That was the last straw. Many of my friends at the time had already lost their minds because within a period of 2 years, they had taken over 700 hits of LSD. When camping with my best friend (I didn't tell him that I had a crush on him until after moving to Arizona and he couldn't believe that I wasn't straight [good guy despite the drugs]) and a couple visitors from Ohio, I saw my friend take 12 hits of acid. Needless to say, none of us slept that night.

I couldn't believe it that he actually remembered me and what I was like.

One other creepy thing I remember is that this other friend (well, actually I hated him) was tripping and he thought that he had died, so he took all of the clothes off his fat-ass body and started burying them and then ran down the highway totally naked and was arrested and put into an asylum. Wouldn't be surprised if that fat-ass is in jail by now.

People who are on drugs like that who are your enemies are wide and open targets.

666/88!!

Jake
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Andre" <darkfury211@ wrote:

yea your right that isnt any excuse. lets think here. lsd leaves you open to all sortsa crazy thoughts, and its a really long deal. why dont you find him sometime when he's frying and push him toawrds expieriencing a nightmare?
Hail Satan!




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "forgotten.identity@" <forgotten.identity@ wrote:

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[pqkiller]

<pre> Whilst this post has slightly strayed from the original input, (not to say I am bothered by that, free thought is natural human spirit) I would still like to thank you all for your input. Satanism can and has been for me a lonely path, and whilst it is expected and natural for us all to take responsibility for our own actions, learn our own lessons and truly carve our own fate, this group has again proved itself as a resource high in value to myself and Im sure many others to bounce ideas and get feedback from those of you who carry more experience. Thankyou.

Ave Satanas!! </pre>

 

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A lesson well learn't on the part of the Student becomes a lesson that can be then taught to a Student, however willing that Student may or may not be towards the exam.

What Jake wrote regarding the availability of the placement of Intent is one such opportunity to teach.

If for any reason you are led to believe that the person that gave you a lesson in his "narcotic" field was doing so with devious intent, the a lesson of devious intention would be well better taught

The ability to twist the reality for one who has allowed their reality to become twisted is a bitter tragedy in the hands of a beautiful conductor.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@... wrote:

Whilst this post has slightly strayed from the original input, (not to
say I am bothered by that, free thought is natural human spirit) I would
still like to thank you all for your input. Satanism can and has been
for me a lonely path, and whilst it is expected and natural for us all
to take responsibility for our own actions, learn our own lessons and
truly carve our own fate, this group has again proved itself as a
resource high in value to myself and Im sure many others to bounce ideas
and get feedback from those of you who carry more experience. Thankyou.

Ave Satanas!!

 

[mike hutchinson]

#ygrps-yiv-2052977478 .ygrps-yiv-2052977478hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #ygrps-yiv-2052977478 .ygrps-yiv-2052977478hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} I am willing to do whatever I can to help further the cause. I am working hard to be able to grasp the concept of these basic rituals. The funny thing is that when I did my dedication to Satan, the flame from the candle shot up super high, and I had to take the battery out of my smoke detector for the moment to keep it from continuous beeping. I saw the marvellous power of Satan right there and then. I feel that I will be able to help quite a bit when I am able to grasp the magick concept much better. I know that behind it is much power. I have also been made aware by various people within Satanism and Odinism that bisexuality for some reason is a good thing to have whilst doing ritual because it presents more of a balance. I cannot emphasize the happiness that has overcame me since I was able to join the group and see people with the stance that I've had in my heart all along. Any way possible that I can help, just let me know. I will do anything possible to further the cause of the upcoming kingdom of Satan. 
 
 
88-14-666
Heil Satan and Heil figure of the past,
Michael Hutchinson


 

To: [email protected]
From: hammerofthegods_666@...
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 05:35:44 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



In my opinion, the GLBT group needs your help as well when and if you can give it and if you desire to. Satan is "pointing" at you right now, in a way. Otherwise I wouldn't have replied to the short response at my bedtime, but no pressure, especially if you don't know what to say. Things will be picking up for us as well.

666/88!!

Jake
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "satansgirl66" <satansgirl66@ ... wrote:

I could not have said it better.
666/88

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I didn't mean to spark trouble here. I am very into Satanism (I went through the dedication on the JOS page) and am very into WW2 regime. I had just seen some articles of Joy of Satan members joining the National Socialist Movement, and was curious why that was done. I guess there are different views on sexuality within the group as was earlier explained to me. I personally don't wish to join the national socialist movement because I think that it has been infiltrated by yehuborim and I have no wish to partake in that. Although I do love the newer black uniforms they made. A National Socialist government (in its truest sense) would allow homosexuality. A homosexual or bisexual would not be having parades throughout the streets, because there are no heterosexual parades that I know of. Racial purity would be taught, and most people being straight and bisexual would raise up the white seed that we need. However, we cannot force someone who is homosexual to either do something they're uncomfortable with (sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex) or have to remain abstinent. What someone does behind their own doors is their own business. yehuborim are in fact trying to use homosexuals as pawns. For example, everyone who is homosexual or bisexual, should be outraged at NAMBLA. The yehuborim are using homosexuals then making them all look horrible by making such an organization. I am bisexual myself, and it very well offends me. I am glad that the Joy of Satan group is here, and it is a billion times better than Laveyan satanism. Anton Lavey's parents were both jewish and his ears flop out in a way that makes it unmistakable what his background was. I hope that this group doesn't go anywhere. I see the white race taking its place again completely in the upcoming age of aquarius. The white race will again see a glorious National Socialist government dedicated to the welfare of its people.

Heil Satan and Heil figure of the past,
88-14-666,
Michael Hutchinson







To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
From: chimera11@
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:17:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)








Indeed! Well said, Brother Lucius. Hail Father Satan!

----- Original Message -----
From: forgotten.identity@
To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:01 AM
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in WW2 regime, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

Jake has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of WW2 regime of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@ wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/ bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS WW2 regime is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/ bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by yehuborim. I can feel the homo/lesbian/ bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

Jake
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

Jake
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "in_his_name_ 666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88. org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

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