VERY negative spiritual experience

[pqkiller]

<pre> Hi all, I was hoping to get some input here from a High Priest/ess as I
have had an extremely negative experience involving LSD and a very
powerful spiritual encounter with a person who Im not sure was in total
control of what happened.

Basically, me and a friend, who is an atheist who dabbles in spiritual
work but was an xian throughout childhood were on LSD together, not
something I do often, I try to stay away from drugs altogether. Now,
having had heightened spiritual awareness at the time, I started a
spiritual exchange with my friend, by means of telepathy through the third
eye. He responded to it instantly, and I could hear and feel his thoughts
also. Almost immediately, he became particularly arrogant of his prowess
and made it known by striking me in the face. As he did so, I could see
his body lit up with spiritual energy and I was defenseless to his blow.
To cut what could be quite a long story down, this interaction continued
and he stated that he was the only god and demanded I bow to him. He could
hear me venerating Satan in my mind and it made him angry. He became
physically violent to the point where he would have killed me right there
and then had I not done as he asked. I shudder when I write this still,
but I felt strong flowing white light pick up my etheral body, and force
me to my knees. This made him very happy, and like a sick little spoilt
brat, he danced, it reminded me somewhat of the filthy nazarene and how I
imagine he celebrates.

Once Again I venerated Satan in my mind, despite the fact I was bowing to
the monster my friend had become, and this made him very angry, and I felt
his energy surge through me maliciously, as he advanced on me, I had no
other choice than to close my mind of my belief and venerate him as
god.... After this he motioned for me to please him sexually, at which
point I grabbed my shit and bailed hard, running down the road as quick as
I could, into a taxi and home....

He has since apologised for his actions although the following night I
performed a destruction ritual. However, since the event, I have felt
quite ashamed of my own lack of strength in the situation, and although
having firm resolve to not take drugs again whatsoever, I fear I might
have closed the door between myself and Satan which makes me sick to think
about.

I guess the real question here is not of my service to Satan, as it is
unrelenting, but simply to seek out if any of you have had any similar
experiences, I am almost certain that my *friend* has either gone mad with
power and deluded himself, or I faced a very real, very powerful entity
that night, crippling me because I was under the effects of drugs and
lacked control. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Ave Satanas!
.. . .. . .. . .. .. ... .... . . . ... . .. ... .

type_D
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Firstly, I think it is important to state that the use of illegal substances is neither supported or encouraged, in fact it is highly discouraged, particularly by the Joy of Satan Ministries.

The reasons for this are not singular. Primarily narcotics, of any kind, produce holes in the Aura and leave one open to infiltration, either trough invasion or manipulation.

In your own particular case I think you will probably find the psychoactive effect of the hallucinogen has brought about the events that unfolded. Before taking the "Drug" your atheist "friend" no doubt held, and possibly still holds a desire towards yourself. Being aware of your devotion to Our Father his subconscious sought through the manipulation of the psychoactive drug to "impose" his own desires through degradation of your own.

Your own mind was fighting the effect of the hallucinogen in the face of this manipulation through reinforcement of your own faith. Sounds to me like Satan brought you home in one piece. The alternative would have been rape perhaps, under the circumstances.

People get very confused with the Spiritual Application of Narcotics. We are not Witch Doctors living in the Brazilian jungles, who through years of ancestoral practice has gained a deep understanding of such substances and their uses. Western culture and understanding of psychoactive substances is reduced to the "addict" the "dealer" and the "dance floor", very different to any Spiritual application, and therefore really should be avoided in order to maintain a healthy mind, a healthy body and a healthy Soul.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In , "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@... wrote:

Hi all, I was hoping to get some input here from a High Priest/ess as I
have had an extremely negative experience involving LSD and a very
powerful spiritual encounter with a person who Im not sure was in total
control of what happened.

Basically, me and a friend, who is an atheist who dabbles in spiritual
work but was an xian throughout childhood were on LSD together, not
something I do often, I try to stay away from drugs altogether. Now,
having had heightened spiritual awareness at the time, I started a
spiritual exchange with my friend, by means of telepathy through the
third
eye. He responded to it instantly, and I could hear and feel his
thoughts
also. Almost immediately, he became particularly arrogant of his prowess
and made it known by striking me in the face. As he did so, I could see
his body lit up with spiritual energy and I was defenseless to his blow.
To cut what could be quite a long story down, this interaction continued
and he stated that he was the only god and demanded I bow to him. He
could
hear me venerating Satan in my mind and it made him angry. He became
physically violent to the point where he would have killed me right
there
and then had I not done as he asked. I shudder when I write this still,
but I felt strong flowing white light pick up my etheral body, and force
me to my knees. This made him very happy, and like a sick little spoilt
brat, he danced, it reminded me somewhat of the filthy nazarene and how
I
imagine he celebrates.

Once Again I venerated Satan in my mind, despite the fact I was bowing
to
the monster my friend had become, and this made him very angry, and I
felt
his energy surge through me maliciously, as he advanced on me, I had no
other choice than to close my mind of my belief and venerate him as
god.... After this he motioned for me to please him sexually, at which
point I grabbed my shit and bailed hard, running down the road as quick
as
I could, into a taxi and home....

He has since apologised for his actions although the following night I
performed a destruction ritual. However, since the event, I have felt
quite ashamed of my own lack of strength in the situation, and although
having firm resolve to not take drugs again whatsoever, I fear I might
have closed the door between myself and Satan which makes me sick to
think
about.

I guess the real question here is not of my service to Satan, as it is
unrelenting, but simply to seek out if any of you have had any similar
experiences, I am almost certain that my *friend* has either gone mad
with
power and deluded himself, or I faced a very real, very powerful entity
that night, crippling me because I was under the effects of drugs and
lacked control. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Ave Satanas!
.. . .. . .. . .. .. ... .... . . . ... . .. ... .

type_D
. ... .. . ... . . . .... ... .. .. . .. . .. . ..

 

[pqkiller]

<pre> Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background. From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes, it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence, outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas! </pre>

 

[jahfersace]

Hi, I'm not of the ministry but would like to share some thoughts on this. Acid alone as if not being enough, seems to have been coupled by a nasty critter your friend probably met while messing with the wrong stuff. Now, being weak is no shame when you see what you're up against, on the other hand we can do so much more than that. Training is the answer if you ask me. Once everyone's gone through the six monts we'll all be able to take on multiple nasties at once. I also want to say that I agree with Dragonwolfs post, however there are some of us that have a living tradition of using plants for many purposes in life and some of those plants can be seen as drugs (if ingested by some city boy/girl).

Slava Satan!!
MummuinaKi

 

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Dude,

Just my opinion here mixed with some facts.

Some may not agree here, but all those things are drugs, including weed. A drug can be anything that alters body chemistry, and that is what weed does. LSD is more extreme I'm sure. Anything else can also have drug like effects like vitamins and supplements, and food to a milder degree if taken enough.

Ontop of that, whether you manifest your intentions or do spiritual warfare, drugs will make you vulnerable, because it will imbalance whatever you have in you or cause you problems, and that will be prime meat for the wolves... As it is easier to take care of an enemy through their weakness. Then there are certain facts like the burnout and desensitization effects it can permanently have on the body, killing braincells and effecting "attention span" which will affect focus which is everything... imagine how that effects your workings.





From: "vgorazd"
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:04:07 -0000
To:
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience
Hi, I'm not of the ministry but would like to share some thoughts on this. Acid alone as if not being enough, seems to have been coupled by a nasty critter your friend probably met while messing with the wrong stuff. Now, being weak is no shame when you see what you're up against, on the other hand we can do so much more than that. Training is the answer if you ask me. Once everyone's gone through the six monts we'll all be able to take on multiple nasties at once. I also want to say that I agree with Dragonwolfs post, however there are some of us that have a living tradition of using plants for many purposes in life and some of those plants can be seen as drugs (if ingested by some city boy/girl).

Slava Satan!!
MummuinaKi

 

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A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In , "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@... wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[williams4033]

It is also important to note that the Illuminati have been controlling their puppets for centuries with giving them drugs in secret societies.

 

[Andre1]

yea your right that isnt any excuse. lets think here. lsd leaves you open to all sortsa crazy thoughts, and its a really long deal. why dont you find him sometime when he's frying and push him toawrds expieriencing a nightmare?
Hail Satan!

--- In , "forgotten.identity@..." <forgotten.identity@... wrote:

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!



--- In , "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

Yes, druggies are easy targets if you find them to be worthless people who only take up space (but that goes for any individual who isn't a Spiritual Satanist). I neither condemn nor condone recreational use of pot or occasional alcohol use, but I personally gave it up on November 10th, 2009. That was the last straw. Many of my friends at the time had already lost their minds because within a period of 2 years, they had taken over 700 hits of LSD. When camping with my best friend (I didn't tell him that I had a crush on him until after moving to Arizona and he couldn't believe that I wasn't straight [good guy despite the drugs]) and a couple visitors from Ohio, I saw my friend take 12 hits of acid. Needless to say, none of us slept that night.

I couldn't believe it that he actually remembered me and what I was like.

One other creepy thing I remember is that this other friend (well, actually I hated him) was tripping and he thought that he had died, so he took all of the clothes off his fat-ass body and started burying them and then ran down the highway totally naked and was arrested and put into an asylum. Wouldn't be surprised if that fat-ass is in jail by now.

People who are on drugs like that who are your enemies are wide and open targets.

666/88!!

Jake
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In , "Andre" <darkfury211@... wrote:

yea your right that isnt any excuse. lets think here. lsd leaves you open to all sortsa crazy thoughts, and its a really long deal. why dont you find him sometime when he's frying and push him toawrds expieriencing a nightmare?
Hail Satan!




--- In , "forgotten.identity@" <forgotten.identity@ wrote:

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!



--- In , "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

My bad. Not 2009. January 10th, 2000. Going on 9 years ago.

666/88!!

Jake
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In , "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@... wrote:

Yes, druggies are easy targets if you find them to be worthless people who only take up space (but that goes for any individual who isn't a Spiritual Satanist). I neither condemn nor condone recreational use of pot or occasional alcohol use, but I personally gave it up on November 10th, 2009. That was the last straw. Many of my friends at the time had already lost their minds because within a period of 2 years, they had taken over 700 hits of LSD. When camping with my best friend (I didn't tell him that I had a crush on him until after moving to Arizona and he couldn't believe that I wasn't straight [good guy despite the drugs]) and a couple visitors from Ohio, I saw my friend take 12 hits of acid. Needless to say, none of us slept that night.

I couldn't believe it that he actually remembered me and what I was like.

One other creepy thing I remember is that this other friend (well, actually I hated him) was tripping and he thought that he had died, so he took all of the clothes off his fat-ass body and started burying them and then ran down the highway totally naked and was arrested and put into an asylum. Wouldn't be surprised if that fat-ass is in jail by now.

People who are on drugs like that who are your enemies are wide and open targets.

666/88!!

Jake
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In , "Andre" <darkfury211@ wrote:

yea your right that isnt any excuse. lets think here. lsd leaves you open to all sortsa crazy thoughts, and its a really long deal. why dont you find him sometime when he's frying and push him toawrds expieriencing a nightmare?
Hail Satan!




--- In , "forgotten.identity@" <forgotten.identity@ wrote:

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!



--- In , "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[pqkiller]

<pre> Whilst this post has slightly strayed from the original input, (not to say I am bothered by that, free thought is natural human spirit) I would still like to thank you all for your input. Satanism can and has been for me a lonely path, and whilst it is expected and natural for us all to take responsibility for our own actions, learn our own lessons and truly carve our own fate, this group has again proved itself as a resource high in value to myself and Im sure many others to bounce ideas and get feedback from those of you who carry more experience. Thankyou.

Ave Satanas!! </pre>

 

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A lesson well learn't on the part of the Student becomes a lesson that can be then taught to a Student, however willing that Student may or may not be towards the exam.

What Jake wrote regarding the availability of the placement of Intent is one such opportunity to teach.

If for any reason you are led to believe that the person that gave you a lesson in his "narcotic" field was doing so with devious intent, the a lesson of devious intention would be well better taught

The ability to twist the reality for one who has allowed their reality to become twisted is a bitter tragedy in the hands of a beautiful conductor.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In , "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@... wrote:

Whilst this post has slightly strayed from the original input, (not to
say I am bothered by that, free thought is natural human spirit) I would
still like to thank you all for your input. Satanism can and has been
for me a lonely path, and whilst it is expected and natural for us all
to take responsibility for our own actions, learn our own lessons and
truly carve our own fate, this group has again proved itself as a
resource high in value to myself and Im sure many others to bounce ideas
and get feedback from those of you who carry more experience. Thankyou.

Ave Satanas!!