HPS Shannon said:
Nick Vabzircnila said:
Only the first paragraph of my post was meant for you.
I strongly disagree that my post was just a repeat of what you wrote. I disagree with many points in your post, such as “no gentile deserves to be blamed”, and “any sentiment towards whites that are even slightly negative is met with quick offense, yet its all well and normal to emphasize the negatives of non whites.”
As for the ‘spare me’, ‘relax’, and ‘don't even go there’, this leaves me with a sincere inquiry as how to interpret this. Are you telling me/us to literally not be defensive when these things come up, or are these just what the linguists call autocratic/volitional remarks? I assure you this is as relaxed as it gets. I'm happy about this thread.
A point on which we do seem to agree is that this thread is for the White race. But this leaves me confused when you repeatedly contest our right to be defensive by claiming we’re ‘overly’ defensive. With everything that was stated in the original post, and in my post, do you not acknowledge that Whites have more of a right to be defensive against criticism than, say, Blacks do? Especially since most of it is actually unjustified, as opposed to the criticism of non-Whites?
This is why the negative traits of other races are brought up, as to compare. Because there is a difference which needs to be brought to light in order for Whites to deprogram from the Jewish brainwashing of White guilt. I understand this may not be pleasant for non-Whites even though it’s honest, but in the long run it’s necessary for the survival of our race, and thus your race. Notice how this reply is now about the Black race again? In some strange way, it's hooked on. Seeing as we agree that this thread is for the White race, maybe we should make another thread if we're to keep discussing all of this.
If one flinches whenever they hear a sound, the hyenas will come and eat that person. I’m not a hyena, but a concerned White. This was a sidetrack of penguin wisdom and a tip.
Nick, I feel like we both can be going back and fourth and still over little details when we both know what the situation is. I did not respond in the thread for the same reason, that this thread is for the white race. I only responded to Coraxo because of that little statement she said which wasny neccessary. Alot of things brought up in this thread wasnt needed as we both know why it was important soley.
HP HC already responded to Cowboy which is why I didnt chime in earlier. I wanted this thread to be for whites. I was just correcting Coraxo. I still stand by what I said when I mentioned that no gentile should be blamed, and when I said that I meant for bigger crimes- crimes that yehuborim do and thinhs happening because of the Jew.
I rather not keep going back and fourth on this thread because its for white gentiles.
I'm not telling anyway to not feel anything or not being defensive. Its soooo obvious what whites are going through and how you guys feel, I hate it too but I decided to reply to Coraxo on a historical fact.
This has gone on long enough and has been covered before, it makes no sense to keep going on with this and for the reasons you mentioned.
I just hate after all these years some of you think that I, for example, are still holding on to Jewish lies and thinking and hating on whites or telling not to feel anything. Come on...
I don't believe Nick said, or thinks you are still holding onto jewish lies, etc. He is commenting on how, by your words were dismissing the things said here, and trivializing the comments from others, both the good and the bad.
You may not have intended for this, but your replies here can easily be interpreted like that.
No offense HP Shannon, but it would have been better not to comment on this, as even if you have no jewish bias any more, you are very sensitive and defensive when it comes to words spoken about race, these personal feelings cloud your judgement noticeably.
You come across to me as being too forgiving to your own, wishing rather than to face the problems and discuss them, to let bygones be bygones, left in the past to be forgotten because it is a difficult issue to face, and simply saying yehuborim are purely the cause of things, without looking at the internal racial problems blacks have had since forever that contribute majorly to the ability of yehuborim to manipulate them.
Reality must be faced for any improvement to come. You understand this better than most I am sure.. But often it comes across as if you feel attacked by comments made regarding race, even if these are not meant to be derogatory, but truthful facts painting a harsh to accept reality.
The white race as it is isn't perfect either in it's current state. We are easily able to accept this, and look forward to change. Even to judge our own harshly to root out any weakness and corruption of our Aryan racial soul and values. We must be able to do this, in order to clean up our race and fix the problems we have.
At the same time we have all rights to judge others and be defensive towards others. There is a lot of injustice in this world, and most of it has been committed against our people. This is indisputable, but we don't whine about it. Instead we look forward on how to improve, or at least, the decent ones among us do. However, even if we don't whine on it, it is important the truth is known. The extend whites have been attacked and persecuted is very severe and far too covered up.
Most crimes against blacks have been recent. While the crimes we have faced have gone on for thousands of years as we were driven out of place after place. There is very serious, justified anger in our racial soul on this, and this is not trivial.
It wasn't just yehuborim who have had a hand in this, and not all crimes have been orchestrated by yehuborim.
Our race is quite literally facing extinction right now. No black or asian needs to have the same concern, as they are racially fine from a survival point of view.
Yet, we have our moment of pride, someone comes in and tries to shit on it as has been done more times than we can count since time immemorial, whites get justifiably angry and one says something partially incorrect due to bias caused by justified frustration, and you felt the need to "steal the show" because your personal feelings were more important. Again, you didn't intent for this, but it resulted in this, don't subvert things for yourself and look at things how they are unbiasedly.
You care for your race, and want to defend them, protect your heritage, argue for them, and empower them. We feel the same. Yet, we can argue with reason, while you are easily triggered whenever anything is said about blacks.
All I ask is that you are wary of this, and not be so overly sensitive whenever something doesn't sit right with you. Try not to make excuses either, there is no need for that. Almost no one can do no wrong. Rather than purely arguing to refute others, see your own part as well and be responsible as we all need to be.
Thank you.
