To the Zevists that we're going to curse me: Closer to the climax

[Astralnaut88]

Some time ago Anubis mentioned "they were going to curse you", but were stopped by the gods. A few days after I was told this I saw that HPS had stated the gods were angry a certain individuals who had planned a curse against a member here, without being told it was me but by then I was certain. When Anubis wants to be clear he makes everything go black as I am waking up and puts me in a sort of paralysis, not to be confused with being unable to move, more like not having any desire to move and a feeling of extreme calm and patience, and he speaks in a likewise manner.

Do not feel bad as I know you are coming into contact with the yehuborim, and the agent of darkness and decay that work for them. With the ritual for Amdusias this is coming quickly and many connections are being made. Even the former male Zevists I had met in the real world, who were all talented musicians, are making their way back from what I was shown and I believe Orpheus is guardian to one of them. Many of us who have been with the gods since the beginning have strange connections between us to where we might meet accidentally, before even having dedicated, only to meet up again in the future after. This is because there is a connection at the soul and even bindings. It has been said that you could know and meet anyone on the planet through just 4-7 different people as connections which is not much at all.

Keep in mind that these chameleons can't fully blend in as they will eventually be spotted upon close scrutiny and you should be on guard as they are getting desperate. Their actions always give them away. They slander, which is like a weak curse, to get the object of their slander to become what they are calling and trying to bind them to. Within a group of Zevists they will go to someone and say another is an alcoholic or drug addict, not because they are but because that is what they want them to be. They are using the thoughts of others to turn everyone against each other and they create the binding spells before they even do this. What is worse is if you believe it and spread it you are essentially cursing that person if it is not true.

There is no need to feel regret over any of this and if you find yourself in this situation just undue the damage through magic, ansuz rune for freeing and removing bindings, and above all redirect your anger toward the parasite that mislead you.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

A few days after I was told this I saw that HPS had stated the gods were angry a certain individuals who had planned a curse against a member here, without being told it was me but by then I was certain.

If by "HPS" you mean me, then no, you imagined that. I was never told anything about you.

 

[Dragonheart666]

????

 

[Meow!]

From what I remember HPS is suppose to be High Priestess Shannon whom hasn't posted on the TOZ in a long long time. Other than that it seems that this person needs some long rest and a lot of Void meditation and white light cleaning. This kind of oddness happens to some from time to time. That is when grounding is needed most. Especially grounding in the physical world. Now that we have the Ancient Philosophy section I would highly recommend reading each article and meditating on each one. These will help with finding the Path better and giving you a clearer guiding light.
Best of luck.


Hail Father Zeus

 

[Astralnaut88]

If by "HPS" you mean me, then no, you imagined that. I was never told anything about you.

I never stated that you were told anything about me. What I remember is that you were told that the gods were angered because they were about to curse a certain Zevists, without ever stating who that is. If you look up one of my blocked posts from this year, maybe late last year, it should be there.

 

[Astralnaut88]

From what I remember HPS is suppose to be High Priestess Shannon whom hasn't posted on the TOZ in a long long time. Other than that it seems that this person needs some long rest and a lot of Void meditation and white light cleaning. This kind of oddness happens to some from time to time. That is when grounding is needed most. Especially grounding in the physical world. Now that we have the Ancient Philosophy section I would highly recommend reading each article and meditating on each one. These will help with finding the Path better and giving you a clearer guiding light.
Best of luck.


Hail Father Zeus

My fault I meant to write HP Lydia.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

I never stated that you were told anything about me. What I remember is that you were told that the gods were angered because they were about to curse a certain Zevists, without ever stating who that is. If you look up one of my blocked posts from this year, maybe late last year, it should be there.

Where did I write that, about being told "the Gods were angered because they were about to curse a certain Zevists"?

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Perhaps you meant this post?

Regarding God Rituals

A few things have been brought to our attention, and need to be cleared up. 1. God rituals are to be done for a purpose. They are not to be spammed for no reason. This is like making a telephone call to someone important then immediately hanging up the phone when they answer. If you have a...

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Even then, I would privately check with HPS or HPZM if there is any truth to what you’re saying. They could check for you and let you know if this is just your mind or something more. This isn’t a conversation you should be having publicly.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

If there really is a Zevist or a group of Zevists cursing another Zevist, they then broke one of the primary rules of Zevism, which is not to curse fellow Zevists. Consequences will follow from Zeus himself.

Any Yehubor pretending to be Zevists and trying to curse one of us will be dealt with by Nemesis, our TOZ spiritual Guardians in the astral and the Clergy perhaps as well. This isn’t the concern of a regular Zevist.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

If there really is a Zevist or a group of Zevists cursing another Zevist, they then broke one of the primary rules of Zevism, which is not to curse fellow Zevists. Consequences will follow from Zeus himself.

Any Yehubor pretending to be Zevists and trying to curse one of us will be dealt with by Nemesis, our TOZ spiritual Guardians in the astral and the Clergy perhaps as well. This isn’t the concern of a regular Zevist.

Although do returning curses as well. If you are being targeted by someone obviously do AOP, returning curses and rituals for Nemesis and other related rituals to banish negativity.

Curses can be elaborate. It may be a Yehubor or enemy entity playing with your mind making you think it’s a Zevist cursing you to reduce your trust in fellow Zevists and Zevism in general. Either way check privately with the Clergy and do the appropriate rituals to counter whatever this is. It could just be your mind as well.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

Perhaps you meant this post?

Regarding God Rituals

A few things have been brought to our attention, and need to be cleared up. 1. God rituals are to be done for a purpose. They are not to be spammed for no reason. This is like making a telephone call to someone important then immediately hanging up the phone when they answer. If you have a...

ancient-forums.com

Even then, I would privately check with HPS or HPZM if there is any truth to what you’re saying. They could check for you and let you know if this is just your mind or something more. This isn’t a conversation you should be having publicly.

Thank you. If that is what he meant, then no, it wasn't about him. The Zevist in that situation apologized and made amends.

 

[ARIES SPIRITUAL LIGHTOFLUCIFER666]

Some time ago Anubis mentioned "they were going to curse you", but were stopped by the gods. A few days after I was told this I saw that HPS had stated the gods were angry a certain individuals who had planned a curse against a member here, without being told it was me but by then I was certain. When Anubis wants to be clear he makes everything go black as I am waking up and puts me in a sort of paralysis, not to be confused with being unable to move, more like not having any desire to move and a feeling of extreme calm and patience, and he speaks in a likewise manner.

Do not feel bad as I know you are coming into contact with the yehuborim, and the agent of darkness and decay that work for them. With the ritual for Amdusias this is coming quickly and many connections are being made. Even the former male Zevists I had met in the real world, who were all talented musicians, are making their way back from what I was shown and I believe Orpheus is guardian to one of them. Many of us who have been with the gods since the beginning have strange connections between us to where we might meet accidentally, before even having dedicated, only to meet up again in the future after. This is because there is a connection at the soul and even bindings. It has been said that you could know and meet anyone on the planet through just 4-7 different people as connections which is not much at all.

Keep in mind that these chameleons can't fully blend in as they will eventually be spotted upon close scrutiny and you should be on guard as they are getting desperate. Their actions always give them away. They slander, which is like a weak curse, to get the object of their slander to become what they are calling and trying to bind them to. Within a group of Zevists they will go to someone and say another is an alcoholic or drug addict, not because they are but because that is what they want them to be. They are using the thoughts of others to turn everyone against each other and they create the binding spells before they even do this. What is worse is if you believe it and spread it you are essentially cursing that person if it is not true.

There is no need to feel regret over any of this and if you find yourself in this situation just undue the damage through magic, ansuz rune for freeing and removing bindings, and above all redirect your anger toward the parasite that mislead you.

I thought it was common knowledge that dedicated Zevist are not allowed to curse one another
I can only think if it as being petty
Like cursing in itself is not something to be taken lightly and is usually a last resort

 

[Astralnaut88]

Thank you. If that is what he meant, then no, it wasn't about him. The Zevist in that situation apologized and made amends.

Yes that is the post I was referring to. Where you specified as to who this was. I mention this because it was days before Anubis mentioned this to me that you wrote it. Maybe it was more than one person? Either way when our people come into contact with the yehuborim this is how they work to get their enemies to destroy one another and Anubis was absolutely clear when he spoke so I cannot doubt.

 

[Astralnaut88]

I thought it was common knowledge that dedicated Zevist are not allowed to curse one another
I can only think if it as being petty
Like cursing in itself is not something to be taken lightly and is usually a last resort

People can be tricked, manipulated, or lose their cool, which when reach a certain level is the same as cursing someone, especially someone without any protection.

 

[Meow!]

people can also hear false voices believing firm that it is beyond a shadow from a God but with time on the Path learn the truth. I'm sure many many have faced this problem which is what I think has started this odd thread.

Hail Father Zeus

 

[Astralnaut88]

people can also hear false voices believing firm that it is beyond a shadow from a God but with time on the Path learn the truth. I'm sure many many have faced this problem which is what I think has started this odd thread.

Hail Father Zeus

Can this also happen while your unable to move and every goes black?

 

[Astralnaut88]

people can also hear false voices believing firm that it is beyond a shadow from a God but with time on the Path learn the truth. I'm sure many many have faced this problem which is what I think has started this odd thread.

Hail Father Zeus

If I were a god and I wanted someone to know with certainty that it was a god that was speaking to them, I would tell them something is about to happen. They would then witness this happening and realize it is in fact a diety that told them this. Anubis mentioned this to me before HL LC ever said anything.

Something else to consider. If someone was trying to distract from this they could also easily come forward and "apologize" this way you would think it is settled and you would never really know who it was that the yehuborim was actually trying to turn everyone against.

 

[Beauty]

they were going to curse you", but were
stopped by the gods

If you really got told that, and its real, it does not mean they were Zevists, the second part was fully your own conclusion.

People can be tricked, manipulated, or lose their cool, which when reach a certain level is the same as cursing someone, especially someone without any protection.

Thats actually true. It is easy to manipulate people into betrayal for example, and both parties thinking they were the loyal one.

Sometimes when getting an intuition one may think other ‘spiritual people’ are having the same and are on this too. But many times its not the case. Everyone plays his part.

I have ultra clear feeling that you are in stagnation, due to being locked in thought more than practice. I also have feeling that you have potential, if you balance the thinking and the practice. And use reality feedback when refining your knowledge, thinking and actions.

this odd thread.

Besides his speculation in curses, i think this could be a good thread, he just needs to refine, i think he meant this :

There is an interesting and often overlooked connection between people who are close to the Gods, or who have the potential to become close to Them. I believe one of the main reasons for this is that the closer one becomes to the Gods, the more aligned one is with Maat and the more godly one's actions become. This naturally leads to appreciation from others who are equally or even better aligned with Maat.

In the world we live in today, this contrast is more obvious than ever. Those aligned with the Gods stand out as bright and apparent. You see, for example, people who cannot speak without cursing or using vulgar words, who rely on very weak arguments, or who cannot even form a single correct sentence. Their entire speech is retarded, not as an insult, but as a clear sign of damaged intellectual and spiritual faculties.

When you encounter someone who speaks about what truly matters, uses proper language, and discusses subjects that show they have at least opened a few books or studied the great figures of antiquity, you start to feel a resonance. In a world deprived of such clarity, one is naturally drawn to those people.

There is another aspect to this: the spiritual. Some people simply have a better spiritual vibe than others, and this has causes, not something random. That being said, those under the Gods are often drawn to each other.

However, there are also initiates who are heavily under the influence of Yehubor due to ignorance. This leads them to display enemy traits. The worst part is that they think they are the most aligned with Maat, and they may even act with good intentions. This is especially seen in people who have strong principles but little discernment. Their loyalty which is a good trait gets used in service of the enemy because of weaknesses in the mind and soul, and a lack of discernment. This is why it is so important to advance on all levels of your being, not just one aspect.

We see this when people throw random accusations at their brothers and sisters under the Gods, or when some go so far as to think they can evaluate another's connection to the Gods based solely on their own opinion. There are many other similar behaviors.

Many of these behaviors may seem "not that much," but when a person has low self-esteem, lacks confidence, and is easily shaken, they are deeply affected by such treatment. That is yehubor behavior. Yes, one should not be that weak, but not everyone starts from the same place. Some do begin the path very weak, and they are not to be attacked.

A simple example: someone asks a question, and another person laughs at him and belittles him. Know that the gap between you and the High Priests is far greater than the gap between you and the member you are laughing at. And yet I have never seen a High Priest laugh at you. So take this into consideration. I recommend everyone read the High Priest's sermon on good conduct.

It is said that "a Zevist cannot curse another Zevist." Yes, but he can still laugh at him. Some have done that before. Some have disrespected others. And this can have the same result as cursing. What does a curse do? It binds. If you attack a member and laugh at him, or if you brainwash him into thinking he is unworthy of connecting to the Gods, you may literally bind him for months or whatever time he needs to break free from that. In my opinion, that is the same as cursing, because it negatively affects a person.

For anyone who has experienced a setback, unpleasant feelings, or negative reactions because of another person: just focus on meditating and empowering yourself. Remember that in Zevism, there are no mediators. So focus on the Gods. I saw a thread where someone said another person told her "the Gods will leave her." Do not be shaken by such statements. Ignore anything that leads you to disconnect from the Gods, and focus on advancing.

Finally, remember what the High Priest said in the conduct thread: who you are is clear when we see how you treat those below you in rank. On the forum, who you are is clear by how you treat new members, and members who are going through periods of mistakes or delusions. Know that stepping on a member when they are weak will only make you look bad. You will never look advanced by doing this. You will look advanced if you help members improve, not the opposite.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

There are many cases where one can develop strong paranoia or translate the energy of dislike and disagreement as a spiritual attack or whatever. Or cases where one self-persecutes and imagines people are doing whatever.

People disliking someone, not wanting to be their friend, considering them not honest enough, and/or other forms of dislikes are not equal to curses and penalty offense doesn't exist for disliking people. That's another topic. To say that a person who merely dislikes you, is cursing you or whatever, is the same leap of paranoia from accusing a person who dislikes you of attempted (spiritual in that context) assault.

I've met many people who are either paranoid, or have misplaced expectations. There can also be a situation where one thinks they are some supreme person and that's why others will assemble against them, and they feed these ideas; they say that others might dislike them and that they are perfect, and that everyone else is at error and never them. Then this evolves into full blown paranoia against others who can be sincerely innocent.

Then we have messages like "I saw X and Y God and they told me about this!" which is remanifested paranoia, since the Gods won't tell you in gossip to start beefing with another Zevist, they would enact justice in their own ways. Hostile entities on the other end, specialize in this. Putting thoughts in people's minds, totally irrational, and creating chaos. This can be 50% of entities and 50% personal paranoia and/or lack of self control.

In practical psychology this can be called persecution syndrome. Even more simply it can be called paranoia: "Everyone is against me, look at them who disagree on the forums, this means they are onto me!".

Many people are also astrally blind and therefore if they get any actual psychic attack, they can think it's whatever.

Lastly if people or even Zevists do these things against another Zevist, who is innocent, this registers very bad with the Gods. Disagreeing and relating and then trying to draw curses etc, can have bad effects for the person who attacks someone who is truly innocent. Therefore, don't worry about this, those who attack and related, are in worse position than the person whom they might be targeting.

If a person under the influence of ego or Yehubor just does whatever; rest reassured the Gods will deal with these things also. It can get really bad. Dislike, disagreements etc don't matter. For example I am being slandered endlessly online by people who call themselves "people of the Gods" who effectively attempt damage greater than Yehubor. They somehow think it might be "justified" and whatever, but the Gods know better on these topics. Ongoing situations like this, can be detrimental for the person that is wrong.

It's better in cases where you think someone is so wrong, to report this to the Gods. They know what to do next.

Over the years I have seen severe cases of people doing evil and the Gods do respond to this evil, especially if pointless. They let it fly for a while to see how more stupid a person can be and it either doesn't work, or they are dealt with in other ways.

 

[Astralnaut88]

There are many cases where one can develop strong paranoia or translate the energy of dislike and disagreement as a spiritual attack or whatever. Or cases where one self-persecutes and imagines people are doing whatever.

People disliking someone, not wanting to be their friend, considering them not honest enough, and/or other forms of dislikes are not equal to curses and penalty offense doesn't exist for disliking people. That's another topic. To say that a person who merely dislikes you, is cursing you or whatever, is the same leap of paranoia from accusing a person who dislikes you of attempted (spiritual in that context) assault.

I've met many people who are either paranoid, or have misplaced expectations. There can also be a situation where one thinks they are some supreme person and that's why others will assemble against them, and they feed these ideas; they say that others might dislike them and that they are perfect, and that everyone else is at error and never them. Then this evolves into full blown paranoia against others who can be sincerely innocent.

Then we have messages like "I saw X and Y God and they told me about this!" which is remanifested paranoia, since the Gods won't tell you in gossip to start beefing with another Zevist, they would enact justice in their own ways. Hostile entities on the other end, specialize in this. Putting thoughts in people's minds, totally irrational, and creating chaos. This can be 50% of entities and 50% personal paranoia and/or lack of self control.

In practical psychology this can be called persecution syndrome. Even more simply it can be called paranoia: "Everyone is against me, look at them who disagree on the forums, this means they are onto me!".

Many people are also astrally blind and therefore if they get any actual psychic attack, they can think it's whatever.

Lastly if people or even Zevists do these things against another Zevist, who is innocent, this registers very bad with the Gods. Disagreeing and relating and then trying to draw curses etc, can have bad effects for the person who attacks someone who is truly innocent. Therefore, don't worry about this, those who attack and related, are in worse position than the person whom they might be targeting.

If a person under the influence of ego or Yehubor just does whatever; rest reassured the Gods will deal with these things also. It can get really bad. Dislike, disagreements etc don't matter. For example I am being slandered endlessly online by people who call themselves "people of the Gods" who effectively attempt damage greater than Yehubor. They somehow think it might be "justified" and whatever, but the Gods know better on these topics. Ongoing situations like this, can be detrimental for the person that is wrong.

It's better in cases where you think someone is so wrong, to report this to the Gods. They know what to do next.

Over the years I have seen severe cases of people doing evil and the Gods do respond to this evil, especially if pointless. They let it fly for a while to see how more stupid a person can be and it either doesn't work, or they are dealt with in other ways.

Paranoia implies worry and this is something I am not 99.9 percent of the time. I have not been truly worried since I last suffered a bout of insomnia in 2024 and honestly don't believe it will ever happen again.

The main issue was with slander and improper speech, which you coincidentally have written about hours after I wrote this. Slander another in a group or one one, is really in so many cases just the unconscious desire to see one destroyed with the help of and through the thoughts of another.

 

[N0b0dy]

Some time ago Anubis mentioned "they were going to curse you", but were stopped by the gods. A few days after I was told this I saw that HPS had stated the gods were angry a certain individuals who had planned a curse against a member here, without being told it was me but by then I was certain. When Anubis wants to be clear he makes everything go black as I am waking up and puts me in a sort of paralysis, not to be confused with being unable to move, more like not having any desire to move and a feeling of extreme calm and patience, and he speaks in a likewise manner.

Do not feel bad as I know you are coming into contact with the yehuborim, and the agent of darkness and decay that work for them. With the ritual for Amdusias this is coming quickly and many connections are being made. Even the former male Zevists I had met in the real world, who were all talented musicians, are making their way back from what I was shown and I believe Orpheus is guardian to one of them. Many of us who have been with the gods since the beginning have strange connections between us to where we might meet accidentally, before even having dedicated, only to meet up again in the future after. This is because there is a connection at the soul and even bindings. It has been said that you could know and meet anyone on the planet through just 4-7 different people as connections which is not much at all.

Keep in mind that these chameleons can't fully blend in as they will eventually be spotted upon close scrutiny and you should be on guard as they are getting desperate. Their actions always give them away. They slander, which is like a weak curse, to get the object of their slander to become what they are calling and trying to bind them to. Within a group of Zevists they will go to someone and say another is an alcoholic or drug addict, not because they are but because that is what they want them to be. They are using the thoughts of others to turn everyone against each other and they create the binding spells before they even do this. What is worse is if you believe it and spread it you are essentially cursing that person if it is not true.

There is no need to feel regret over any of this and if you find yourself in this situation just undue the damage through magic, ansuz rune for freeing and removing bindings, and above all redirect your anger toward the parasite that mislead you.

You're being delusional. I don't think anybody has time to curse random irrelevant people like that.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

Yes that is the post I was referring to. Where you specified as to who this was. I mention this because it was days before Anubis mentioned this to me that you wrote it. Maybe it was more than one person? Either way when our people come into contact with the yehuborim this is how they work to get their enemies to destroy one another and Anubis was absolutely clear when he spoke so I cannot doubt.

Yes I was specified as to who it was, it wasn't some random thought, it was in real communication with people. It would be best to not assume I speak of you when I didn't.

Judging by your other posts, some of which were disapproved by mods, and by the DMs you've sent me, I think perhaps you are too open to random astral interference. I say this not as criticism but out of concern for your well-being

 

[Meow!]

My hope is that new members who go thru odd threads like this one use it as a cautionary tale on the astral voices they listen to. For those that may be confused or worried I highly suggest doing God Rituals. These help build a true connection to the real beings. Doing these rituals with your whole heart- the intention of making a family connection and being humble about it- will help as much as anything. Focus on meditations and living life as you are in the first I say five to ten years of the Path. Of course contribute to the Hall and be on the forum to help yourself build that internal feeling of community.
I hope new people or those feeling a bit lost can find some help in this odd thread.


Hail Father Zeus

 

[Asra]

Can this also happen while your unable to move and every goes black?

I don't know your situation, but make sure these so-called messages aren't delusions / hallucinations that accompany sleep paralysis, or personal opinions that feel amplified during trance, maybe even other entities, as people already mentioned.

 

[ARIES SPIRITUAL LIGHTOFLUCIFER666]

People can be tricked, manipulated, or lose their cool, which when reach a certain level is the same as cursing someone, especially someone without any protection.

Yeah what you described was a deliberate attempt