This is gonna get contraversal so… not for the quick to anger!

[shade00013]

You have been warned!
Also… everyone has a working opinion on what they experience and what they are told… so be aware this is just my opinion… if you don’t like it… fair enough… voice yours… I don’t mind if it’s harsh… just don’t let anything leave this site… things don’t need to escalate above opinions… I.e. don’t try to force me into what fits for you… because it doesn’t fit for me… as of now… maybe in the future… but maybe not!

I don’t like what Jos is… so I might abandon this site completely… I’m sure this will make some of you overjoyed by that… but just so you know, you don’t know of this is in regards to this profile specifically or all profiles… I could be on this site in a different form… maybe even a form you can pull consider to be positive… or maybe not…

I do not post this not to inspire hate…I post this to inspire curiosity!… and to open up a dialogue for discussion and creativity!

Maybe this site is right… or maybe this site is wrong?… maybe all this site is a small piece of something larger…maybe they only have part of the story not all of it? They may act like they are the definitive source on everything Satanic but are they really? Maybe yes… maybe no… I’ve seen other sites that put a positive spiritual spin on all this…

I realise this post will probably get deleted as this could be considered as spreading or inspiring the use of dogma that is unaffiliated with this site… so they would possibly sensor or destroy the competition… instead of… maybe competing against?… or maybe not? Maybe I don’t give them enough credit? I would like to be proven wrong!!! I welcome challenge to this post! Competition aids in my evolution… after all… without a reason to aquire knowledge or power… why would it be worth the effort? You could say for immortality?… but that is a challenge towards mortality… you could say to prove something! But that is a challenge against your self or another!

If we don’t question everything… how are we to learn? How are we to evolve? If we don’t question everything we could be consumed by a cult and forced to fight for they’re passion… while neglecting our own… look at JW’s for example… I see similarities between them and this site… maybe they are coincidences… maybe they are not… maybe this people do seek to brainwash us to fight for them… rather then with them… it isn’t cooperation if you are attacked for saying no… but maybe this site just breeds that sort of person… your with us or your against us… or maybe its just the aggressive minority that speaks the loudest? Maybe the other 95% of this site is fine and total chill about who you live your life… could this site be a mistake as a starting point into this? Maybe?… maybe not?…

There is so much more I would like to get people thinking about… but as this is already so incredibly long… and by now I’m sure you get the point of this… that is if you read into the end instead of just picking out the first thing that triggers you and jumping to the bottom to respond… well… I have also experienced such a trigger so don’t feel alone in that… it happens to everyone… we are all full of scars… even if we are to prideful to admit our flaws and mistakes… it doesn’t mean they didn’t happen…

 

[kieithnightmare0]

Have you even dedicated? Meditated? Participated in warfare???

I would think you could find out if the JoS is legitimate or not by doing the spiritual practices yourself. Just like all the dedicated members here have.

What is it you don’t like specifically? This isn’t like the JWs. You can leave at any time. No one will stop you, we’re not a cult.

It sounds like you haven’t done enough research. The truth won’t change because YOU’RE not happy with it.

 

[dylanbartone]

Pythia cites plenty of sources on the JoS at the bottom of most every page her info is laboriously found from.(Along with the other HP).

Do u read and check out ancient.forum? The HP's are always talking about current world affairs with the sources to back their claims.

As for questioning everything thats what Zevism is about because only thru wonderment will u truly try to seek knowledge.

As the person before me said if u do the meditations and rituals( like the Ritual and the imbolic race freeing rituals) ull surely feel the effects they have on ur body/mind if ur doing them with intent and not just going thru the motions like a robot.

May truth shine upon u sister\brother.

 

[[email protected]]

If you have not gone through the sites and learned the meditations and workings and actually applied them - and without expectations and time limits - then nothing will happen. If you want to know if it's true or not, then do it - and give it a proper, actual attempt.

 

[R B]

You're much mistaken. JoS is not a website, so that you can compare us with other websites. We are a people inspired by Satan himself. We don't follow JoS because of the clergy. We are here because of Satan.Well,those other sites you talk about, have the people who have established them communicated with Satan? Have they been set up by him? They call themselves Satanists,but do they even have a relationship with him?We all have our doubts when we are new,but those who take meditation seriously see for themselves the truth that JoS tells. If JoS has a secret agenda,why do they encourage research and skepticism? Why don't the Gods allow mediators? Why do all of us who take Satan seriously have positive experiences? Who in their right mind gives people the kind of power this path gives to people if they are using them for silly agendas?Some of us had shitty lives before we found Satan.. Others had no real purpose in life. Some lived reckless lives full of drug abuse. We are helped in all areas of life and taught how to do it ourselves. Satan has bettered my life personally and opened great doors for me. If you want to leave,no one forced you to be here in the first place.

  You have been warned!
Also… everyone has a working opinion on what they experience and what they are told… so be aware this is just my opinion… if you don’t like it… fair enough… voice yours… I don’t mind if it’s harsh… just don’t let anything leave this site… things don’t need to escalate above opinions… I.e. don’t try to force me into what fits for you… because it doesn’t fit for me… as of now… maybe in the future… but maybe not!

I don’t like what Jos is… so I might abandon this site completely… I’m sure this will make some of you overjoyed by that… but just so you know, you don’t know of this is in regards to this profile specifically or all profiles… I could be on this site in a different form… maybe even a form you can pull consider to be positive… or maybe not…

I do not post this not to inspire hate…I post this to inspire curiosity!… and to open up a dialogue for discussion and creativity!

Maybe this site is right… or maybe this site is wrong?… maybe all this site is a small piece of something larger…maybe they only have part of the story not all of it? They may act like they are the definitive source on everything Satanic but are they really? Maybe yes… maybe no… I’ve seen other sites that put a positive spiritual spin on all this…

I realise this post will probably get deleted as this could be considered as spreading or inspiring the use of dogma that is unaffiliated with this site… so they would possibly sensor or destroy the competition… instead of… maybe competing against?… or maybe not? Maybe I don’t give them enough credit? I would like to be proven wrong!!! I welcome challenge to this post! Competition aids in my evolution… after all… without a reason to aquire knowledge or power… why would it be worth the effort? You could say for immortality?… but that is a challenge towards mortality… you could say to prove something! But that is a challenge against your self or another!

If we don’t question everything… how are we to learn? How are we to evolve? If we don’t question everything we could be consumed by a cult and forced to fight for they’re passion… while neglecting our own… look at JW’s for example… I see similarities between them and this site… maybe they are coincidences… maybe they are not… maybe this people do seek to brainwash us to fight for them… rather then with them… it isn’t cooperation if you are attacked for saying no… but maybe this site just breeds that sort of person… your with us or your against us… or maybe its just the aggressive minority that speaks the loudest? Maybe the other 95% of this site is fine and total chill about who you live your life… could this site be a mistake as a starting point into this? Maybe?… maybe not?…

There is so much more I would like to get people thinking about… but as this is already so incredibly long… and by now I’m sure you get the point of this… that is if you read into the end instead of just picking out the first thing that triggers you and jumping to the bottom to respond… well… I have also experienced such a trigger so don’t feel alone in that… it happens to everyone… we are all full of scars… even if we are to prideful to admit our flaws and mistakes… it doesn’t mean they didn’t happen…

[/QUOTE]

 

[ToZ Forum Contributions]

You stated you don't even know what the site is. Your making this rambling commentary based on something you have not even read and are admittedly ignorant on. Also this is not a question on your part but just a statement where you attempt to justify your own willful ignorance to others as some deep thinking.

 

[thisisafalsealias]

No you're just wrong. I've seen JoS change first hand after members made corrections to false knowledge in the forums. This place and the people here care about the truth. It's just that you take all the attention for yourself and complain so people don't like you a lot. But people would love you if you were more co-operative. It's not like there's anything visibly inherently wrong with you I don't think
If the yahoo groups didn't block out "competitive content" aka spam and advertising... literally like 90% of posts on here would just be telling us off and telling us to convert to jesus
Everything else about your post was just not true. I was always fighting agaisnt what was on the JoS so I willfully joined with them because we have the same goals. If you don't you're free to leave. But I'd love for you to stay as well. Nothing is holding you back from leaving is this isn't for you.
Also, when you are given answers to most of the big questions, even if every answer is completely right it will still look like "a religion" to you. Maybe even a cult. That's because the definition of a religion is an ideology that claims to have most of the answers to the deep and ancient questions. It's still a religion if all the answers are right. But the HPs are only highly educated and don't actually say they think they know literally everything. I rarely see you actually debate with other people here and if you did you'd find we all do think for ourselves but are bound by common goals like health extremism and taking down the Jewish Christian and Muslim religions.

The actual things that bind us together are incredibly simple so it's hard to think of this like a cult. That would be like calling a group of people who enjoy peanut butter while disliking ketchup a "cult". Most of us came here because we liked Satan already so if you had no idea before you got here, that might be the main reason you feel sketchy about so many people in agreeance about one thing. I remember feeling weird about yehuborim at first but the more commonplace I found it was to dislike yehuborim in my general life, I was eventually just relieved that most other Satanists also didn't feel comfortable with the yehuborim. But being redpilled on the yehuborim definitely gave me a moment of uncertainty whether what I was reading was truly correct or just made too much sense not to disbelieve. I'd be happy to debate you on the yehuborim for hours though so if there's anything you have questions about, fire away.
Otherwise, I could leave this place and go join any other religion, maybe a snowboarding club, start a book club, learn everything there is to know about Hinduism and join a Hindu group.... We're here cuz we like it mein bro. The only brainwashing that happens here is the kind where you actually clean your mind from the inside out and make it a healthier place that isn't filled with useless junk and grievances. Which is done through challenging each other through debate and through extensive reading and shared learning experiences. I actually find the term brainwashing hilarious because it sounds like it should be a good thing at first glance. And because anybody who removes everything they were forced to believe from their minds tends to end up here too, because we are all about being clean of mind and clean of soul.

 

[shade00013]

I admit I did say some stupid things in that post… but as a quick defence I think because of the waxing Aquarius and unusualy high astral energy (perhaps because of the eclipse) I found my mind in a auspicious state… shortly after posting that my mind degraded to the point of breaking down… however I would like to say I don’t think this is the right place for me… and yes I don’t like Satan… I find his personality to clash with mine… although from what I have seen I would not consider him evil… just different… he does seem to act with positive intentions but I don’t agree with the decisions he makes… that’s it… 2 being only seperated by opinion… but that is normal we are all equally different in our own ways…

My main problem with all this is being put into a position where I feel I have to do the Ritual’s because of either guilt or it is what I am destined to do… why I was reincarnated to do… this may be seen as selfish… but I did not get into spiritually because of spiritual warfare… this is not what drives me… and is what drives me… but not in the manner to which I feel people here would agree with… basically I strive for the destruction and binding of negative entities… through the hiring of others… maybe this means I’ll get hired by a xian to remove there entitie… but if this happens I will make it clear that it is not in service to they’re god… this is my power… I earned it and was given nothing…

Maybe in the future I’ll decide to give with Ritual’s but if I do it will be because I want to… it will because I want to be charitable… not because I feel so because others are suffering as a result of my inaction… people will always suffer… that’s life after all… there is no life without death… yes you may be able to extend your existence so you get one self sufficient through the opas… but that doesn’t mean you can’t be killed… that doesn’t mean there still isn’t risk…

Either way I am not going to bash those that are passionate about performing Ritual’s… actually I’m glad you are doing something you are passionate about! All the more power to you! But this is not my passion and I just feel that makes me the enemy here… even if it doesn’t… I can’t help but to feel this way.

 

[dylanbartone]

U are saddening. U say u want to undo bindings on ppl? Uve never even attrmptrd the Ritual? HAHAJAHA u do realize the Ritual undoes the entire binding curse system of the Jewish Torah right? Ritual= Spiritual Cleansing ritual.

If U do it with intent u can actually feel which segements are affecting which parts of ur body. Example for me I can feel the and parts of the ritual affecting mu eyes ears and nose heavily. Then when i finish I always feel lightheaded(ina good way) and comfortable in body.

The Ritual does this for ALL gentiles regardless if they participate. Ur just leeching off our hard work as we free ur soul to go play "exorcise" such a dam joke and I thought I was insulting and a joke to fathers cause with my sloth barely doing the Ritual and soul ascending like I should(ya im still a piece of crispy sht for not doing it 3 times a day like IK I should tho )

 

[[email protected]]

I am responding to this because years ago I started disliking the JOS for a different reason (I dont at all now) and the enemy ended up confusing me and getting me to the point I ended up using drugs and gave up completely cause I thought father left me not a good feeling at all. Long story short I dont believe he did but your kind of thinking tells me you are in their grasp a lot. We are all different but I think you are immature about this completely take some time to meditate on Fathers Sigil and energy yes no one is the same as him but we respect him. I myself sense in some ways my energy is different but I still love him why are you here if what you say is the case. Start doing the Ritual daily the reason we put so much emphasis on that is cause we are trying to free the planet we want a better future you dont even have to do it for Satan or the Gods just that you want to help people. This isn't at all a cult we all do our own thing but try to advance and live as nature intended. Anyways meditate it doesnt sound like you are advancing much or your attitudes would be different. Yeah I agree though I messed up too on the Ritual I should do it more some days I am trying to fix that so dont feel bad just make it a goal to do it more and be motivated idk with me sometimes I have huge motivation and sometimes none at all I probably just got to push it when I have no motivation and go anyways I will try but no one should put themselves down just do it and do your best you cant change the past work on it.

Hail Satan

 

[thisisafalsealias]

by the way don't try to use astrology as an excuse... that's such a stereotype of immature people to say or do something stupid or rude and then try to get off the hook by saying they had bad planets that day

 

[thisisafalsealias]

"yes I don’t like Satan… I find his personality to clash with mine… although from what I have seen I would not consider him evil… just different… he does seem to act with positive intentions but I don’t agree with the decisions he makes… that’s it… 2 being only seperated by opinion… but that is normal we are all equally different in our own ways…"
Oh my god, no... you are not "equal" to Satan. It doesn't work like this. Fact is different than opinion. You aren't allowed to just "disagree" when it comes to facts but you can be deluded into believing things that aren't true. That is the fundamental way that knowledge works in the universe. If you saw a woman being raped, would you step it to prevent it? It seems not, because in your mind, "that's life".... might as well just give up..... let people get hurt even when it takes literally no effort to literally save their lives and souls.....

You can disagree about certain things but some things, you can't. For instance, you can't just murder someone in cold blood and just say, "well that was just my opinion to murder that person, bcuz we are all equal in different ways". Technically you can, but there will be consequences. And the consequences for what you are saying is being called stupid. You know you're going to raise negativity out of the groups when you post, so why are you doing it? Why do you absolutely feed on everybody's negativity towards you?

"this may be seen as selfish… but I did not get into spiritually because of spiritual warfare… this is not what drives me… and is what drives me… but not in the manner to which I feel people here would agree with… basically I strive for the destruction and binding of negative entities… through the hiring of others… maybe this means I’ll get hired by a xian to remove there entitie… but if this happens I will make it clear that it is not in service to they’re god… this is my power… I earned it and was given nothing…"
what you say doesn't make any sense
What is your passion then? What do you even do besides shitpost? I don't see it. You are supposed to live your life to the fullest, just like you're supposed to eat and sleep. Do you not know what Rituals are? They are the only way to destroy and bind the negative entities which are actually plaguing the planet.

You said that what drives you is destroying and binding of negative entities, "through the hiring of others". Then you said maybe you would be hired by a xian to remove their entity. So what is it then? Do you want to hire others or is what drives you to be hired BY others? Seriously man put down the bottle. I wouldn't write if I didn't genuinely feel bad. I can tell that at least a part of you wants to be here.

 

[dylanbartone]

I ddnt mean to make u feel bad by saying wat i did about the Ritual nor am I mad with u; I have no right to be mad or be critical.

Truths can hurt especially when its about a negative aspect. Being able to hear those truths and turn them around is how u pull out more inner strength and advance as a person.

If U truly mean what u say about liking to figure things out on ur own then thoroughly read JoS and dont use HP hoodedcobras 40 day program. Do the research contained within the site and come up with w/e routines u feel will allow u to advance quickest.

Use these groups what they are ment for from now. asking questions for when ur confused on how to correctly use the info u find within JoS, the astral occurences that happen when ur soul begins to open,and answering questions for confused members if u feel ur advice will help them. Stop trying to start useless debates on here that mean nothing to the advancment of ur soul.

Tho u bring up an interesting view on the Ritual in my opinion. I believed it to, using ur reference, for the lightning to strike directly against the Torah bindings on the astral with a static hitting the chanter. With the torah itself being destroyed that in turn frees all gentiles.

 

[thisisafalsealias]

We all kind of leech off of the Rituals and Satan's energy just by existing, even before we dedicate... just stay true to the path, and its ok man. Satan makes sure that you don't "hog" too much. You will get just what you need.The Rituals do shoot out like lightning, taking the shortest path. But if you are very sick or in danger, more than usual might reach you. I don't think you are being allowed very much of the energy right now because you haven't deemed yourself completely worthy of it. It is only sustaining you at the bare minimum, maybe more at some times.

I am the same way I need to work out everything on my own from every angle even if it means making a fool of myself... you just need to take your time, but honestly I think you have actually gotten better.
I don't know if you actually drink, but it seems that you are really agitated oftentimes when you post here. I suggest just taking a bath, letting yourself breath, and don't worry so much about giving back to the community as try to just keep yourself afloat, and healthy. After that, focus on Rituals. But you definitely need to take your time and get yourself to a better place, since you have been experiencing enemy attacks.
If you feel like leaving Satanism, maybe take a break and just don't think about it for a while. Satanism is something that will just be with you for the rest of your life to where you don't even think about it. It's way more on the front of your mind for first some years I bet, but you will actually enjoy being a Satanism once your mind is more at ease. At that point, it makes life way more pleasurable than if you were without.

 

[Jose Angel]

True




  You stated you don't even know what the site is. Your making this rambling commentary based on something you have not even read and are admittedly ignorant on. Also this is not a question on your part but just a statement where you attempt to justify your own willful ignorance to others as some deep thinking.

 

[Allison Passino]

"When you are ready, come find me, my son. I am always here. I love
you, despite your harsh words to my children. You can be my child as
well, if you just relax, take time to hear the music of my infinity.
Listen to my song! For mine is the song of freedom and of peace! Be
open and honest with me always, for I know when you speak false! Call
unto me, call upon my names...and I *will* answer".

On 2/15/19, Jose Angel josea361@... [JoyofSatan666]
<[email protected] wrote:

True


On Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:52 PM, "mageson6666@...


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[CO Grey]

It takes a lot of research and a lot of talking to people who know.

  "When you are ready, come find me, my son. I am always here. I love
you, despite your harsh words to my children. You can be my child as
well, if you just relax, take time to hear the music of my infinity.
Listen to my song! For mine is the song of freedom and of peace! Be
open and honest with me always, for I know when you speak false! Call
unto me, call upon my names...and I *will* answer".

On 2/15/19, Jose Angel josea361@... [JoyofSatan666]
<[email protected] wrote:
True


On Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:52 PM, "mageson6666@...


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