The RTRs DO work, obviously.

[_PotestasDea_]

"but as the world gets closer to the apex of our cause, they will make themselves evident...."

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but:

1) Nobody cares what UN or related organisations think, these organisations have no power to do anything whatsoever. China can put millions of Uyghurs in camps, Russia can invade a country, the US can invade multiple countries and Israel can commit war crimes and nothing is ever done about it.

2) I kinda agree, but honestly, I still think the majority of people just have the "antisemitic" programming in them to the point where their feelings will override the facts. Due to censorship and hate speech laws and so on, we honestly have no idea how many are aware and just not saying anything. The Gaza war definitely woke millions up to Israel's evil tho.

3) The Muslim leaders are cowards, they will never declare war on Israel because it's a nuclear nation and they don't want their cities to get pulverised in a matter of minutes for Palestinians. Meanwhile, Islam continues demographically to increase and creep itself all over the West relatively unchallenged.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

I'm not saying the RTRs aren't working, but so far I'm not that impressed. I'll start doing them as well soon enough.

 

[Khem Nefermed]

"but as the world gets closer to the apex of our cause, they will make themselves evident...."

"There is a positive and negative side to all things to keep them in balance --
to keep the Universe going. There are awful and terrible things that must happen, destructive deathly things, and there are good and miraculous things that must happen full of life and creative construction. It seems this would come to each randomly and it seems thus it should continue this way for eternity. This is not true. And this is the essence of Who I Am."

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

In my view the only way Israel falls is if an internal struggle is done which then leads to some civil war. The leftie, secular Yehuborim and the ultra-orthodox Yehuborim hate each other, so there might be some potential for that. No nuclear nation has ever been attacked or invaded from the outside for obvious reasons.

 

[Aorphis]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but:

1) Nobody cares what UN or related organisations think, these organisations have no power to do anything whatsoever. China can put millions of Uyghurs in camps, Russia can invade a country, the US can invade multiple countries and Israel can commit war crimes and nothing is ever done about it.

2) I kinda agree, but honestly, I still think the majority of people just have the "antisemitic" programming in them to the point where their feelings will override the facts. Due to censorship and hate speech laws and so on, we honestly have no idea how many are aware and just not saying anything. The Gaza war definitely woke millions up to Israel's evil tho.

3) The Muslim leaders are cowards, they will never declare war on Israel because it's a nuclear nation and they don't want their cities to get pulverised in a matter of minutes for Palestinians. Meanwhile, Islam continues demographically to increase and creep itself all over the West relatively unchallenged.

Maybe a bubble to be burst is the short-term perception of the issue. There's so much heat and chaos upon the enemy that the only way they had to get some off was to basically raise hands in the air and declare OFFICIALY they are a mafia state.

Of course it will make almost no visible difference right in this moment, however only 4-5 years or so ago they were the official "victimuhs".

Things are changing , and usually in an accelerated manner, people only see and feel the top of the roller-coaster before the descend in this very moment.

 

[Aorphis]

I'm not saying the RTRs aren't working, but so far I'm not that impressed. I'll start doing them as well soon enough.

damn.. if I only red this sort of entitlement before I answered you on the first message I'd have spared myself some trouble .. you wanna see a difference ? Just put the effort and do them.

 

[Khem Nefermed]

I'm not saying the RTRs aren't working, but so far I'm not that impressed. I'll start doing them as well soon enough.

Some people will flame you for this. I will only retaliate with one point.

Do you understand that, if you are right, which is a big if, then your attitude is part of why the Rituals aren't "impressing" you. You didn't refute the arguments I made, so you probably just haven't studied enough to understand why the RTRs, especially the FRTR we use now, are impressive. There is history behind the making of these RTRs, and this history reflects in the effects they caused. You can call it an adult, harder, version of connect the dots.

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

In my view the only way Israel falls is if an internal struggle is done which then leads to some civil war. The leftie, secular Yehuborim and the ultra-orthodox Yehuborim hate each other, so there might be some potential for that. No nuclear nation has ever been attacked or invaded from the outside for obvious reasons.

You're right and it's necessary for a civil war to happen, another funny thing is that most people in the West are Christians and they're becoming more and more Republican/right-wing.
The conservative right supports Israel because of Christianity, most people hate the UN and Palestine is socialist against a "liberation" nation of Israel

People support Israel unfortunately, those who support Palestine are mostly just leftists.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

I'm not saying the RTRs aren't working, but so far I'm not that impressed. I'll start doing them as well soon enough.

Any rituals, especially those which are aimed on a global scale, have to take into account the entirety of the energetic factors involved. On a smaller scale, if you do a working to remove negative behaviors, this sets into motion a process which acts in accordance with your ability to change, the power of your soul, and the scope of behaviors which you seek to remove.

So if one is judging based on impatient or imperfect assessments of what one thinks should happen without considering all the steps which must be first accomplished before that final result, this can lead someone to misjudge the efficacy of the method employed.

It is like if you do a working to change your mom's car color from blue to red. If you think the paint will instantly change its atomic structure as the outcome of the working, you would falsely become disappointed. A more likely outcome is the working would first change your mother's opinion, then give her the funds, motivation, and insight/timing to have it painted. The fact that your mother even changed her mind after 10 years of not wanting to do this at all would then be considered a success and evidence of activity.

Relating this back to the enemy, that is why we can draw success based on seemingly "lesser events", because such events would not have happened without our efforts, as they are connected on the "path" of the final result we desire, and what the enemy does not desire.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Any rituals, especially those which are aimed on a global scale, have to take into account the entirety of the energetic factors involved. On a smaller scale, if you do a working to remove negative behaviors, this sets into motion a process which acts in accordance with your ability to change, the power of your soul, and the scope of behaviors which you seek to remove.

So if one is judging based on impatient or imperfect assessments of what one thinks should happen without considering all the steps which must be first accomplished before that final result, this can lead someone to misjudge the efficacy of the method employed.

It is like if you do a working to change your mom's car color from blue to red. If you think the paint will instantly change its atomic structure as the outcome of the working, you would falsely become disappointed. A more likely outcome is the working would first change your mother's opinion, then give her the funds, motivation, and insight/timing to have it painted. The fact that your mother even changed her mind after 10 years of not wanting to do this at all would then be considered a success and evidence of activity.

Relating this back to the enemy, that is why we can draw success based on seemingly "lesser events", because such events would not have happened without our efforts, as they are connected on the "path" of the final result we desire, and what the enemy does not desire.

Yeah, I understand what you're getting at. It works the same way with magickal manifestations, takes time, especially when it's against something that has been used against Gentiles for thousands of years.

I guess it was impatience and ignorance on my part. My attitude towards politics is largely pessimistic and cynical due to my research over the years but who knows, the future isn't set in stone and we should do our utmost to ensure it's a positive one.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Some people will flame you for this. I will only retaliate with one point.

Do you understand that, if you are right, which is a big if, then your attitude is part of why the Rituals aren't "impressing" you. You didn't refute the arguments I made, so you probably just haven't studied enough to understand why the RTRs, especially the FRTR we use now, are impressive. There is history behind the making of these RTRs, and this history reflects in the effects they caused. You can call it an adult, harder, version of connect the dots.

Is there a thread or page where I could learn more about the history of it? I'd appreciate it.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You're right and it's necessary for a civil war to happen, another funny thing is that most people in the West are Christians and they're becoming more and more Republican/right-wing.
The conservative right supports Israel because of Christianity, most people hate the UN and Palestine is socialist against a "liberation" nation of Israel

People support Israel unfortunately, those who support Palestine are mostly just leftists.

Good news. Most people who consider themselves conservative are not actually supporting israel. Most of these people want to stay completely out of it, not be on any side, and not send any money to a war in any country. Stop paying for israel and stop paying for ukraine, trillions of dollars which were thrown in the garbage.

 

[V12-POWER]

Worst of all, people are not ceasing to be Christians.
Those who abandon Christianity do so because of Yehuborim-Liberalist propaganda, which encourages new poisons.
Like transgenderism, drugs, feminism and socialism.
It's even worse when you realize that what's happening fits exactly with the Christian narrative of "Satanism".
In other words, I don't get excited because I know it's all Yehuborim psyops to turn people into Christians.

i don’t know where you’re from, but people around my country have lost all hope for current political parties/wings

they just know it’s the same shit with different names. this is a complete reversal of what was happening no less than 4 or 5 years ago.

i know in some places it might not be there yet, but in some it is the time for true leaders to appear. i am sure if someone like hitler was to appear here he would wipe the “competition” away, as wild as it sounds.

however every country is different so i can only speak for the place I live in

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

Good news. Most people who consider themselves conservative are not actually supporting israel. Most of these people want to stay completely out of it, not be on any side, and not send any money to a war in any country. Stop paying for israel and stop paying for ukraine, trillions of dollars which were thrown in the garbage.

And then I'll finally be able to rest in peace. LoL

 

[Khem Nefermed]

Is there a thread or page where I could learn more about the history of it? I'd appreciate it.

Satan's Library has all the JoS's past RTR work.

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

i don’t know where you’re from, but people around my country have lost all hope for current political parties/wings

they just know it’s the same shit with

In my country people have been indoctrinated by Yehubor (right-wing) Yehuborim

But we are also under attack from communist/liberal Yehuborim

The situation in the United States is more nationalistic, it's really like Luciftias wrote.