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The Obesity Epidemic In The West

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos7 min to read

Speaking of epidemics and pandemics and all this, one major epidemic malfunction of the human body has been left unaddressed in the West and that is obesity.

It has went completely out of control for decades, costing the lives and quality of life of millions, yet nobody really cares.

Obesity is an illness, in the same way anorexia can be one.

We are not talking chubby here and being even fat, we are talking about being obese to the point one has health problems or it can cause fatality.

The West claims it has a spiritual thing called "Christianity" but as it appears the main religion of the Westerners currently is only cheeseburgers.

It is an illness of spirit and the soul first, and then these disorganized energies manifest in the body through overt consumption of what is negative and causes this result. For people to reach these extends, life has to be empty, and the brain must be truly depressed.

One cannot reasonably reach amounts like 1000 lbs and reach this point while they have been ok. Many people are allowed to get into this without any support and they merely destroy themselves. To cover this up, we say some random Western bullshit like "Muh Free Will" to cover out this spiritual deficiency that is eating people's soul bit by bit.

To end up like this one exercises literally the opposite of any free will. One is a slave to certain false pleasures that degrade a person. Free will is the opposite of this. Regardless we have been confused about free will and this claim is only used when people want to do either irrelevant or bad stuff.

The obesity epidemic is a reflection of the epidemic of imbalanced energies in the West.

To give an extent of how crazy some people have become, I have watched a documentary years ago where a person had a child, that was about 12 years old and morbidly obese. The child was asleep most of the day, and then they woke up to eat about 5 whole chickens.

The mother refused to stop it's intake even after the doctors explained that the child was at high risk for heart attack. Remaining obese, the heart couldn't hold and the poor child died within a year or so. While that doesn't register as murder, it is something very close to this.

Needless to say this situation reflects upon us all collectively in what type of monsters certain people have become, gulping things down to the point we fall into a semi-asleep state half their lifetime from eating too much.

Everyone is clearly advised as a Zevist to find the courage to escape this scourge. Do not be ashamed. There are even Gods who will help you with this.

It is almost guaranteed if you have problems with depression, lethargy or other issues and that you are obese, these can come from obesity and nothing else. Your immune system and other aspects of yourself suffer pointlessly over this.

It is all reversible, and there are ways to reverse this one step at a time. Even keeping this on the "very chubby" level, can keep you healthy and sane. Obesity should be seen as an illness, not merely as a state of the body. The organs literally suffer in this state.

Anorexia, the other latter end of this can cause also considerable and rather similar issues. Lethargy, flying in and out of sleep randomly, being too weak to do anything etc.

From a metaphysical standpoint the obesity epidemic not only points to a totally false lifestyle, but a lifestyle that has is literally engrossed in the material and related to the material in such a way that it's dysfunctional.

If one is older than let's say 50 or 60 that is far more acceptable as one might not have the time to deal with this, but please, especially if you are young, take this in consideration and act now. Relatives and others might be living in denial of this, I know, and how this occurs can be seen in shows such as this:

I don't have time to watch this, but skimming through, these images are simply disastrous. Anyhow it seems that these people are trying to get better and that's a good message to push.

These are people that had their lives ruined and nobody told them to stop anything. They engrossed themselves in too much Jupiter, and yes, Jupiter energy can be deadly.

They must somehow have enjoyed reaching that state in a pathological way, but like hard drugs and other false enjoyments that come without measure, death or getting permanently disfigured or disabled can be the only outcome.

As we can see from this video even these situations ARE reversible, so don't lose hope. Meditations can be used to also affect this and many people have used meditation for weight loss and optimizing the body, and they have worked.

The United States now is to where child obesity with some European countries is literally killing people. Yet all you'll see on TV is nonsense about the Co-Vid and other total crap. Nobody that would be fit and has a decent health would die from Co-Vid or these things if people were healthier.

Of course, if one is at this state, anything can spell their death really quickly, including a simple coronavirus.

However, big pharma wants you in a condition where your exploitation is at a maximum from them. Doctors pretend like nothing of this is beyond the realm of normal, but that is totally insane. Protect yourself and others from these scourges and even if necessary, become evil if certain people do not listen.

However be careful as many people in this condition can be emotionally sensitive and take hard corrections and internalize them, accelerating their negative condition. Please do take efforts to maintain optimal weight, these are what real epidemics look like, but nobody cares anymore.

Remember that Zevism is about balance. You don't have to become like Arnold Schwarzenegger, although that would teach someone a lot of discipline and empower them. But as a Zevist one must understand the value of health and so on.

Crazy people tell you today that this is "Authoritarian" to tell to other people, but what they do allowing people to get so fat their hearts explode is utterly parasitic and evil. That is careless. It's sign of inner decadence to not care for anyone else to such high extent, that you literally see them approaching 1000 lbs and you don't tell them they must seek help.

We live in a crazy world where certain people want to turn you into a pod living, brainchip wearing, landwhale that weighs 1000 lbs so they can feed off of you and sell your stories in shows. Do not allow this to happen.

They tell people that's even the path to "pleasure" and that this is great, but in reality, these people suffer tremendously, and to such extents they can no longer understand. They are lying to everyone. Do not fall for this.

Clownworld must not consume any of us. Likewise we cannot afford to be consumed by the Clownworld.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

#62
Stormbloodsaid:
BlackOnyx8said:

I know how to exercise and I do have the tools. I just made some bad decisions and let myself indulge too much on food, for more time than I should have. And now I am extremely busy and I really can't stretch my free time more, but it seems that I will have to find a way to workout at least one or two times a week.

Even 15-20 minutes a day of workout is better than nothing. And it would be best to do something most days of the week, rather than just one or two days. One or two days are better than nothing but not sufficient for human being, neither to maintain your physical progress nor to advance physically as well.

Just keep this in mind when organising your schedule and making plans for your future. I know you may actually not have the chance to implement a physical advancement programme, but you may want to keep in mind that it's something necessary for your spiritual advancement as well so, when you plan your future, you can work toward adjustments that will allow you to have more time for that. If you want to, of course. This is just advice, a suggestion.

What a vile slanderer. This is extremely unfair and psychopathic. This is how you deal with criticism? I am not waging war on LGBT, I was just seeking understanding. I was wrong in attacking you unfairly and I am sorry, but I did it because I did not have sufficient knowledge and understanding of the issue.

Some time ago a Zevist made an argument with the title, what do heterosexuals think about homosexuals or something like that. There I asked for explanations in a friendly way, and you, all you had to say was, unreliable.

You can't accept something you don't understand, or at least that is the case with free beings.

For an offence or two you are offending me endlessly, and you are also offending bodybuilding, gyms, medicine, science etc. Have you lost your mind?

Honestly, I thought homosexuality was a choice and it seemed to me an unhelpful and unsatisfactory thing to do. Then, since no one here gave me explanations but only attacks and since LGBTs are protecting their rights tooth and nail, I had to do some extensive research on this myself.

I read arguments and studies done by doctors of psychology and I understood what it is all about. It is not a choice but a sexual attraction like heterosexual attraction. So you have to understand and accept it, that's all for now. We still have to understand what homosexual attraction is made of and how it works as well as heterosexual attraction. I am sure that when we understand this more, we will be able to do more, respecting free choice of course.

Talking about nutrition, yes you are right, mankind nowadays is exaggerating with sugars and neglecting fats that seem more dietary. But you have to be careful with saturated fats and especially trans fats.

#63
Mastersaid:
Stormbloodsaid:
BlackOnyx8said:

I know how to exercise and I do have the tools. I just made some bad decisions and let myself indulge too much on food, for more time than I should have. And now I am extremely busy and I really can't stretch my free time more, but it seems that I will have to find a way to workout at least one or two times a week.

Even 15-20 minutes a day of workout is better than nothing. And it would be best to do something most days of the week, rather than just one or two days. One or two days are better than nothing but not sufficient for human being, neither to maintain your physical progress nor to advance physically as well.

Just keep this in mind when organising your schedule and making plans for your future. I know you may actually not have the chance to implement a physical advancement programme, but you may want to keep in mind that it's something necessary for your spiritual advancement as well so, when you plan your future, you can work toward adjustments that will allow you to have more time for that. If you want to, of course. This is just advice, a suggestion.

What a vile slanderer. This is extremely unfair and psychopathic. This is how you deal with criticism? I am not waging war on LGBT, I was just seeking understanding. I was wrong in attacking you unfairly and I am sorry, but I did it because I did not have sufficient knowledge and understanding of the issue.

Some time ago a Zevism made an argument with the title, what do heterosexuals think about homosexuals or something like that. There I asked for explanations in a friendly way, and you, all you had to say was, unreliable.

Now you have called me a gym rat, and I have seen you attack me many other times in different topics in an indirect manner. I can tell that you are still harbouring hatred for me regarding that issue, this is totally unreasonable and absurd. You are very stubborn.

#64
Mastersaid:
Stormbloodsaid:
BlackOnyx8said:

I know how to exercise and I do have the tools. I just made some bad decisions and let myself indulge too much on food, for more time than I should have. And now I am extremely busy and I really can't stretch my free time more, but it seems that I will have to find a way to workout at least one or two times a week.

Even 15-20 minutes a day of workout is better than nothing. And it would be best to do something most days of the week, rather than just one or two days. One or two days are better than nothing but not sufficient for human being, neither to maintain your physical progress nor to advance physically as well.

Just keep this in mind when organising your schedule and making plans for your future. I know you may actually not have the chance to implement a physical advancement programme, but you may want to keep in mind that it's something necessary for your spiritual advancement as well so, when you plan your future, you can work toward adjustments that will allow you to have more time for that. If you want to, of course. This is just advice, a suggestion.

What a vile slanderer. This is extremely unfair and psychopathic. This is how you deal with criticism? I am not waging war on LGBT, I was just seeking understanding. I was wrong in attacking you unfairly and I am sorry, but I did it because I did not have sufficient knowledge and understanding of the issue.

I am not sure what are you talking about. Where exactly is the slander? Can you clarify it?

Also, let me clarify something, since it seems people like to use the legal language incorrectly:
:arrow: slander = ORAL defamation, so something done using your own voice
:arrow: libel = WRITTEN defamation, so something delivered via any form of text, online or not

Mastersaid:

Now you have called me a gym rat, and I have seen you attack me many other times in different topics in an indirect manner. I can tell that you are still harbouring hatred for me regarding that issue, this is totally unreasonable and absurd. You are very stubborn.

Is gym rat really an insult where you come from? Cambridge dictionary doesn't give any such connotation to it but I am aware each area has their own slang, so I apologise if that was perceived as an insult. Would you prefer "gym bunny", "hardcore gym-goer", something else?

What issue? I don't remember having any issue with you, ever.

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#65
Stormbloodsaid:

Thanks Brother, that helped. I already adjusted my schedule to be able to workout in the morning, it will be tight as I work and go to school after work, so it's tight, every minute counts, but it's doable. I got some cardio for 3 days of the week, about 20 mins, and a proper workout with weight lifting for 2 days that I can go to bed earlier and wake up earlier.

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#66
Stormbloodsaid:
Mastersaid:
Stormbloodsaid:

Even 15-20 minutes a day of workout is better than nothing. And it would be best to do something most days of the week, rather than just one or two days. One or two days are better than nothing but not sufficient for human being, neither to maintain your physical progress nor to advance physically as well.

Just keep this in mind when organising your schedule and making plans for your future. I know you may actually not have the chance to implement a physical advancement programme, but you may want to keep in mind that it's something necessary for your spiritual advancement as well so, when you plan your future, you can work toward adjustments that will allow you to have more time for that. If you want to, of course. This is just advice, a suggestion.

The stress on kidneys is from high-protein diets, not from ketogenic diets. Most ketogenic diets only have a moderate amount of protein. One can keep a normal amount of protein, which is 1g per kg of bodyweight on average (unlike what broscience says), keep their carbohydrates under a certain threshold and eat the rest in healthy fats. But there are no studies on long-term effects of ketogenic with the modern human physiology, not using conventional medicine and not using alternatives like TCM and Ayurveda. There are only assumptions based on brainwashing from the carbs industry. Assumptions =/= facts.

What a vile slanderer. This is extremely unfair and psychopathic. This is how you deal with criticism? I am not waging war on LGBT, I was just seeking understanding. I was wrong in attacking you unfairly and I am sorry, but I did it because I did not have sufficient knowledge and understanding of the issue.

I am not sure what are you talking about. Where exactly is the slander? Can you clarify it?

Also, let me clarify something, since it seems people like to use the legal language incorrectly:
:arrow: slander = ORAL defamation, so something done using your own voice
:arrow: libel = WRITTEN defamation, so something delivered via any form of text, online or not

What a coincidence of polysemic words, like the beggar here.
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=61050
Gym bunny, that's a good one :lol:

#67
jrvansaid:
Stormbloodsaid:

I am not sure what are you talking about. Where exactly is the slander? Can you clarify it?

Also, let me clarify something, since it seems people like to use the legal language incorrectly:
:arrow: slander = ORAL defamation, so something done using your own voice
:arrow: libel = WRITTEN defamation, so something delivered via any form of text, online or not

Mastersaid:

Now you have called me a gym rat, and I have seen you attack me many other times in different topics in an indirect manner. I can tell that you are still harbouring hatred for me regarding that issue, this is totally unreasonable and absurd. You are very stubborn.

You brought this on yourself for being a condescending dick all the time.

People who only have been here 1 year and a half AND all they've done in that period is get into fights and heated arguments with other users because of their lower awareness and understanding AND have no intention of advancing, are unwelcome to speak to me. So avoid. Go to meditate instead.

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Satanama!

#68
jrvansaid:

Thank you for the explanations. Sorry for the late reply brother but I am currently very busy and it looks like this will last a while. I hope to find a good job sooner or later.

#69

Stormblood is right. I am in favor of ketones because I've adapted the diet to my lifestyle and I've had some amazing results when it's done RIGHT. It's reduced inflammation, water weight, toned muscles. Any carbs you eat turns into sugar by your body processes. Your body naturally will make carbs. I'm not anti-carb but different diets work different for everyone. I advise against promoting one diet over the other because everyone is different.

But just remember all foods got preservatives and other unhealthy indegredients that can cause all kinds of problems. Yeah I'm keto but I eat lean meats, healthy fats and mostly non-starchy vegetables , lots of greens. Occasionally I'll eat maybe a banana or a sweet potato as it won't raise my insulin levels and hold onto fat.

I stay away from bread, pasta, gluten and soy. Sugar and Grains in general. My body and grains or sugar don't agree.

So different diets work for different people. What you do is your business.

#70
Quicksilversaid:

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The main problem with keto diet is that healthy carbs give easy energy to the body, yang energy. This is separate from denser items which can build blood or yin, or lighter items that detox and disperse pathogens (like fruits and veggies). Each food group has its own energetic functions.

So extended keto can be a problem as it may cause qi deficiency, which the body compensates for by burning yin. If your constitution is strong is yin, and through your diet, you can supply enough yin and have no problems. Other people will become too yin deficient, like air people.

The best way to fix this is to have carbs every few days, or in some sort of schedule.

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People have problems with carbs when they either eat too many, in general or eat junk carbs. Both of these things will overload the stomach and spleen, causing dampness and congestion to build up. Dampness is a yin pathogen and becomes a problem for those who cannot easily clear it.

Kapha constitutions benefit not just from fewer or less dense carbs, but also less dense meats and fat as well. This is done to make sure their body doesn't become overloaded with yin-based pathogens. On the flip side, Vata people benefit from a yin heavy diet, which keeps them nourished and grounded.

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The overall conclusion to everything diet-related is to pick whatever you can eat that is both convenient and maintains your healthy decently enough. It is not practical to have a 100% perfect, home-grown organic diet, as this would waste your time which could be spent meditating.

Focus on improving your vitality through spiritual workings and you won't have to have such a rigid diet or other habits. Knowledge of TCM or other holistic systems allows one to judge the state of their health and organ systems, showing when one needs to take action.

#71
Blitzkreig [JGsaid:

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Quicksilversaid:

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The main problem with keto diet is that healthy carbs give easy energy to the body, yang energy. This is separate from denser items which can build blood or yin, or lighter items that detox and disperse pathogens (like fruits and veggies). Each food group has its own energetic functions.

I've read there's a cyclogenic version suggested for athletes. I personally would not do keto when you're a professional athlete, but people get weird ideas and even try vegan... It can't be helped when awareness is low. This cyclogenic version has you on keto 5 days a week. Then you have 1 day with 70% of your calories in carbs, same protein levels as the other days, and the rest in fats. Then you have the day after that with 60% calories in carbs, same protein levels as the other days, and the rest in fats. On the first day of keto, then you reduce carbs compared to usual and do not eat anything after 6pm, so making sure all your nutrient needs are satisfied before that so you can return to ketosis faster.

I read another insane guy pushing the Leangains diet the other day, and he advised 50-60% of your calories from protein, which sounds like the recipe of disaster from my point of view. Eating around 300g of protein a day doesn't sound ideal at all. Of course, as usual, they refer to 1 or 2 studies with a small sample size. That's when most scientists know he's a clown.

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#72
Blitzkreig [JGsaid:

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Quicksilversaid:

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Kapha constitutions benefit not just from fewer or less dense carbs, but also less dense meats and fat as well. This is done to make sure their body doesn't become overloaded with yin-based pathogens.

I have just seen this now. Thanks for the advice

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#73
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BlackOnyx8said:

I have just seen this now. Thanks for the advice

Also, mudras can be useful: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=319684#p319684