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The Emptiness of Knowledge

VoiceofEnki said:
In the end, this too is a choice made by individuals, whether they let themselves by swept up by the currents of the present society, or swim where they want on their own to seek out answers and alternate ways of life and understanding.

It is not the times we live in, or the society we live in that makes people rush through life and lack interest or patience to study and learn, but the state of mind, the level of consciousness, of the individual.

We are here despite the state of society. None is us real Zevism fall into those same traps the common person perpetuates to infinity, because we have the state of mind, the consciousness to look beyond the hill, and even beyond the mountaintops over the horizon.

Again, it is not external factors that make people as they are, it is the internal state of being that governs this. For any moderately advanced Satanist, the external currents do no longer sway you from your chosen path, because the self is too large and stable to be swept up by the surrounding things.

Yes, I know these things, obviously if we as Zevism had let ourselves be swept by the currents of the present society or absorbed by the NPC crowd we would not be here, doing what we do.

We are here and for any Real Zevism once he has entered in Satan's House there is no way back
I just wish it was a faster way, to advance spiritually and win the war.
 
Henu the Great said:
At our current stage, mostly yes. Adding power is another thing, but it has to be done aswell.

I guess this makes sense, first we free ourselves of what dross holds us down so we can actually notice the difference, and then we add what's still needed to nourish the Soul to the point of stimulating massive growth. I like this theory.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
DarkSwan said:
Maybe I was talking about myself then.
I donโ€™t really like emojis here tbh, lol. Just โ€ž:)โ€œ looks better.

I think, with slow moving planets, like Neptune, Uranus and pluto, you have mainly to focus on the houses they are in. And of course what other planets they are aspecting.

An entire generation has Neptune in Capricorn for example. You have it and I have it as well, as many other people in our generation. Neptune is a very sloooow, mover. Apart from Pluto, Neptune is the most distant planet from the sun.

Neptune is a spiritual planet, if it is sublimated correctly. Many people with a strong Neptune, donโ€™t meditate at all, but take drugs. Energy and drugs feel pretty much the same. Thatโ€™s probably what rips wholes in aura, as drugs create a rush of energy, an artificial rush. And well, it rips holes in the aura.
This is just my own theory. So donโ€™t think that everything I say is 100% true.

Within the JoS witchcraft section, you can find Azazelโ€˜s Astrology for Satanists. Check it out, if you have not done it already.

Cool Signature btw.
That is true. It's why I even shared that info, since it is broad and should be fine on here.
Unfortunately my neptune isn't the best placed which is why I had dependence on alcohol and bud in my teenage years. Thanks to finding this path I have been clean for almost 3 years now, and no desire of going back.

but yeah still have much to learn in astrology

and thank you, signature is from "ancient wisdom" sermon (=
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
...
In the end, the only advice that ever helped was something Musashi Miyamoto said: that there's nothing outside that can ever make you richer, stronger, better, faster, smarter.. everything exists WITHIN, so one should seek nothing outside of oneself.

This made me realize how, also, our Soul, within, being a creation of Satan, is the only real 'something' we ever need to become any better, any closer to Father and the Gods, any stronger and better. The only thing that will ever change something in our existence.

Also,

Apprentice said:
(PING Brother.. this is something I think you'll probably find interesting)

this leads me to another thought... could be wrong, but here it is:
maybe our Souls are already, technically, as advanced as the first stage of Godhood. Maybe whatever effects we observe in these lives, like abilities we learn to display, are just glimpses of something that is already incredibly powerful, but that is locked inside, and currently inaccessible for the most part.

Maybe power meditations and energy exercises are useful in that they can help our 'godhood memory' jog itself out of its numbness.

Maybe, we don't become Gods by adding power, but by removing restraints. This, at least, would explain something that I did under particular circumstances, that haven't been capable of repeating at will, but that was definitely a godlike thing.

I'd be curious in hearing what everyone has to say about this theory. Also, in my case, I had seen a LOT more progress while doing curse removal, like the Serpent Rituals and Ritual, other than doing things that make one stronger (like power meditations, which to this day I fail to feel very powerful at all).

Thanks HP Zevios for inspiring this thought. I'm not sure if I'm correct or if it'll only make sense to me and very few others, but I feel I'm onto something.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

I dont think you are entirely incorrect. Ive had instances myself where random things happened, even at a very young age, over which I cannot exerciae control.

However, I also think we can gain new abilities. We are not limited to what we have been given or whats already there. This is what empowerment is for. One may remove thw curses but a new person probably does not have the strength to do things. So. Empowerment.
Thats the part I think you are incorrect in.
 
Retrospect said:
DarkSwan said:
Maybe I was talking about myself then.
I donโ€™t really like emojis here tbh, lol. Just โ€ž:)โ€œ looks better.

I think, with slow moving planets, like Neptune, Uranus and pluto, you have mainly to focus on the houses they are in. And of course what other planets they are aspecting.

An entire generation has Neptune in Capricorn for example. You have it and I have it as well, as many other people in our generation. Neptune is a very sloooow, mover. Apart from Pluto, Neptune is the most distant planet from the sun.

Neptune is a spiritual planet, if it is sublimated correctly. Many people with a strong Neptune, donโ€™t meditate at all, but take drugs. Energy and drugs feel pretty much the same. Thatโ€™s probably what rips wholes in aura, as drugs create a rush of energy, an artificial rush. And well, it rips holes in the aura.
This is just my own theory. So donโ€™t think that everything I say is 100% true.

Within the JoS witchcraft section, you can find Azazelโ€˜s Astrology for Satanists. Check it out, if you have not done it already.

Cool Signature btw.
That is true. It's why I even shared that info, since it is broad and should be fine on here.
Unfortunately my neptune isn't the best placed which is why I had dependence on alcohol and bud in my teenage years. Thanks to finding this path I have been clean for almost 3 years now, and no desire of going back.

but yeah still have much to learn in astrology

and thank you, signature is from "ancient wisdom" sermon (=
Nice! I am glad you replaced drugs with meditations. I know some people who destroyed themselves by doing drugs. Not speaking about weed here tho.

I also started doing weed when I was in my teens, however, now I have absolutely no urge to do drugs anymore. I also never drink alcohol, not even on birthdays or other celebrations. From all people I know, There is only one other person, who also never does drugs. (I see alcohol as a drug as well)

But yeah once you find the truth and true spirituality, you donโ€™t need drugs anymore. Speaking from my view, I did weed, because I was bored and did not see any meaning in life. It was nihilism, I mean I had fun and was full of energy, but I just did not see any deeper meaning in life. Our Souls wanted Spirituality, we filled this hole with weed.

I am a Satanist for 3 years as well now! Funny to hear we both started around the same time, and have a similar background. =)
Urgh.. now I am interested in your progress so far.

I also do believe that we are around the same age, as I have something in my chart that indicates drug abuse or spirituality, which I will not share here tho. I think you might have the same.

When transit pluto conjuncts natal neptune, this is a great time for meditations and spirituality, good we found this path, lol.

Perfect, this just motivated me to meditate right now.
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
(PING Brother.. this is something I think you'll probably find interesting)
Lunar Dance 666 said:
One may remove thw curses but a new person probably does not have the strength to do things. So. Empowerment. Thats the part I think you are incorrect in.
Also, it is widely mentioned in JoS that one should increase the ability of throughput of ones conduit... or one may risk frying the nervous system, possibly irreversibly. That is where the empowerment comes into play, I guess. Building your power and your ability to handle it simultaneously, tapering it all up organically, adapting to the changes as you go.
 
Apprentice said:
Also, it is widely mentioned in JoS that one should increase the ability of throughput of ones conduit... or one may risk frying the nervous system, possibly irreversibly. That is where the empowerment comes into play, I guess. Building your power and your ability to handle it simultaneously, tapering it all up organically, adapting to the changes as you go.
Lunar Dance 666 said:
One may remove thw curses but a new person probably does not have the strength to do things. So. Empowerment. Thats the part I think you are incorrect in.

I never denied that empowerment is extremely necessary, my point is essentially that removing what binds us may (perhaps only in some cases) be more powerful to notice real change than merely absorbing insane amounts of energy through power meditation.

But I'm starting to suspect this only concerns those who, like me, always felt so little energy they started thinking there was something else at play... this is how I reached this conclusion, that Serpent Rituals and anything that removes that binding is the real key to give yourself a serious boost in progress.

AFTER that has happened, power meditation is probably a breeze, and results can widely be observed (again, this concerning for people who have a VERY hard time feeling energy from the start, as unbelievable as that may seem to people who easily feel it).

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
I know I've been really advanced in the past lives, and that I've been a woman of power, even a famous female pharaoh, but I don't want to make a big deal of it, it actually matters who you are NOW and what you do in this exact moment for yourself and for the people of Satan, who I've been it's in the past.

When I'm thinking about the fact that you're a satanist since 2002 and I was born in that year makes me wonder how much information do you actually possess and how much information can be accumulated in this period of time. The human potential is indeed incredible and I know I do have a lot more to experiment further, as we all do.

I am glad you felt what you said you did when you read my message. I do love to have good influence on people and to share experiences with other implicated satanists like both of us seem are. Same for you, quote me wherever you feel like it, so we both are implicated in that topic, always a pleasure to have constructive conversations, hoping it is beneficial for both sides :D, I'll let people here know about other experiences of mine when I see fits. I've said in one of my messages that Satan encouraged me to make an account here, and I am very glad He did.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Satanic_truth88 said:
Its a blessing that you are still here, despite all the slander and bullshit you come into contact with on a daily basis. Just know that the majority of us here REALLY appreciate you and all that you do. Thank you for being here

I love all Zevism as a soul family, so thank you.

The genuine love that I receive is what keeps me going, and overpowers the hate of even billions if necessary.

It is really hard this life we lead. But I know some people truly love me as do I them, and the Gods in turn love us all. This is why I try to return the same as I receive.

As for those who hate I hope they will be won over also, but we cannot live for these people.
This really warmed my heart, I know that you could probably care less or so, but I have been following your post and just soaking in every ounce of wisdom I can get. Lydia, Johnson_Akemi, all the High Priest, they all have influenced me so greatly and before I Knew it. I was healthily obsessed about helping humanity and myself. I know we got "into it " the other day about race. I just really really felt the need to tell you guys this.
 
GD. said:
Indeed spirituality had been took away from us forcefully in the past, but we've come a long way with everything we do, and some information even managed to survive which is incredible.

Not only information but spirituality itself, it can be seen especially in little kids as I saw, but it goes away with age. I can always see, when I go to supermarket, toddlers looking at me and smiling to me, to which I always take my mask off to smile back at them. They are extremely happy to see actual people, especially in these hard times, that I do not care for anyone's reaction, children need humans to be humans. It is pretty clear to me that they do feel energy and this ability goes away as time passes, even if I may be wrong.

Compared to 20 or more years ago, I do feel a very defining difference in the world. Once, I loved the idea of learning psychic powers (powers of the mind we all called them, ignoring they all come from the Human Soul), and this was luckily also what brought me to the JoS in the first place. Thought more than once that the Gods wanted me to look for another hopeless "telekinesis tutorial" the day I typed the word and found the Telekinesis page in the JoS. One click after and finding the JoS Homepage, I decided I was going to be a Spiritual Satanist and never looked back to anything else.

Back then, however, I wanted this (psychic powers) but couldn't feel a thing. When I started with basic meditations just to feel something and then quickly enough increased the difficulty, the number of breaths and the level of the meditations, I found to my horror that I somehow couldn't access the very CORE of what is Spiritual Satanism: I could feel no energy, or if I could I was the one somehow blocking it, or blocking myself from feeling it.

Talk about wrong mindset, huh?
In the end, what solved the entire thing for me was basically three things: 1. doing the Final Ritual.. I could feel the tiny 'flowing' of energy whereas before it was silence and dead, 2. forcefully analyzing myself and working on removing this wrong mindset that "I can't feel energy".. which without a doubt stopped me so far from even starting to feel.. and 3. LOVING the Gods (this is something extremely important, but it also comes with issues before one can actually do it.. in other words, I feared that by loving someone I couldn't see or feel I was more like a xtian who 'loves' a fake 'god' he can never feel (but will defend past the point of absolute shame and self deceit). Knowing this, I didn't want to really "feel delusional" (I'd make Aquarius proud now lol) by developing strong unconditioned feelings for beings I didn't know existed for sure. I had to develop myself but mostly removing obstacles to let my Soul be restored (as much as I could) before feeling something and knowing the Gods were close and hadn't given up on my sorry ass.

Now I'm at the point where after an orgasm I can feel the flow in my base chakra and it's like a little river of energy, spiraling, becoming active, and it's so noticeable if I focus on it, it becomes more like a 'humming' sound, but tactile if you know what I mean.. and for me to feel JUST this after an orgasm, it makes me really wonder just how much I've been corrupted in the past to only feel this effect. This is obviously the easiest to notice after my energy peaks (I can't imagine how a rising Serpent feels like yet, but I can't wait to find out... that's also what made me wanna try that "Breath of Fire Ritual" I told you about before), but I have felt this happening a lot after doing the three Serpent Rituals in January, and NOW I can feel this effect starting randomly, even as I sit at the table after lunch and relax a moment. It's there...

So, a LOT is changing. The Age of Aquarius isn't an easy one as it still requires constant self sacrifice and effort and strong, unwavering belief, but it DOES lead out of the dark ages, it DOES lead us back to our beloved Gods.

As for children, this comment of yours has got the BEST of timing.
I was going for groceries yesterday and twice I had some little girl (like 7 or 8 years old I guess) either saluting me completely out of the blue or waving at me like I was a long time friend... :O

I was pretty surprised because although kids seem to really like me since I was like 14 or so, I don't get that kind of attention now, not from complete strangers, not in public like in the book store where this child walked past me after saying "hi" to my face and smiling... I DID KNOW this was an energy thing.

I do know my Serpent is slowly uncoiling and rising. (Can't wait to read HP HC's new post about Dragons. Always felt drawn to dragons my entire life, also snakes actually.. I read the same book on snakes as a child over and over and over again. I felt something "click" in me every time I touched it, now that I think in retrospection.)

As you say, indeed children have got a stronger knack from abilities. I remember loving having imaginary cartoon friends when I was probably younger than 7, and I hated how my parents thought I was abnormal, that I wasn't developing correctly. One day, especially, I felt as if my parents had 'broken' this thing I did, and I couldn't do it anymore because otherwise I was deemed to be broken myself, stupid, wrong, or damaged. To tell you the truth, it felt exactly like I was being forbidden from going to a world I felt I belonged. I don't know how that had to do with what I know now, the Gods, the astral, multiple dimensions, but in 2003 I did discover I had a knack for creating thoughtforms with very little effort. To this day, that is probably the number one ability I should think of when I think of what I can do. The last time (I made a post on thoughtforms if you want to know more about it) I had the most unexpected success as my newly created thoughtform already started stimulating my pineal gland, so I do assume that I can create pretty strong thoughtforms.

Children have a much better time sensing the astral and naturally wanting to learn from it, be part of it. But I don't think they necessarily "lose" the abilities they have at birth and discover as children... I merely believe that these abilities become sacrificed, as in buried, for the "greater good", which simply means they are not accepted as normal by others until the refuse to be this part of themselves that they feel is perfectly normal (because if is of course).

But nothing stops them from wanting to rediscover this part of themselves years after, when they feel something is lacking in their lives and no matter the amount of money they make or career or life satisfactions seem to satisfy that "urge" for the astral.

You can't "kill" the Human Soul, you can only bind it. (I don't know if this is exactly correct, but I strongly feel this to be a fact. Satan made us to be immortal. I refuse to believe a corrupted system could kill anything Satan created.)

GD. said:
That's what I was wondering... how much can one learn in as little or as much (it's relative) as let's say 20 years.

I guess it wasn't that easy at the beginning. When I discovered the JoS in 2002 I didn't have my own computer, I had to wait until my sister was done chatting with her bullshit friends to log on and read from the JoS keeping an eye out for those that felt like I'd do something stupid. And although 20 years may be a long time, there are a lot of pages I still couldn't reach in the JoS. Mostly from the library, of course, as I don't have as much time to read as I'd like (especially now between ritual schedules and RL work and other things, having to sacrifice personal meditation time to read from the JoS, read in the Forum, etc), but I suppose this is also something that makes you aware of what you really want...

In my case, I think I visited the meditation page and the Demons page at least thousands of times. This, when I take a step back, tells me what I crave the most is contact with the Gods and to develop my Soul so I can reach them. This however only really got a good boost since last year (or two years) when I started to believe more that I had a right to meet the Gods (gave myself the right, breaking that stupid mindset) and after I started doing consistent Rituals.
Also, coupling meditation and Yoga has helped a lot. There is truly a lot about the physical that we should all consider more as important to reach spirituality at its finest.

GD. said:
I will read some messages on the "Regarding Elements" topic that you said about. But for my experience with elements, I don't know if I am going to work with them just for now. Last time I did, almost 2 years ago, I was in a trance state, and I was breathing in fire, I tried to invoke the fire element, and I did like 3 breaths of it (which took obviously a few seconds) and I already found myself sweating like crazy. As I know it can be dangerous I decided to stop. The other experiences with elements weren't that intense but still very powerful, and the only element I never tried to invoke was earth. I will invoke them all again when I think I am ready.

This is just a theory I have developed, but don't take it too seriously as there are also cases where this is meaningless.

In my observation of myself and others, I feel that a person (someone who meditates and uses Soul powers) has either a knack for Perceiving energy or Projecting energy.
In your case it's probably the first: you seem to be very skilled at sensing the astral, have easily enough (compared to me at least) managed to develop your astral sight and found your incubus, and when doing as little as 3 fire absorption breaths you sweat like crazy.... in my opinion, you have a very sensitive Soul 'system' but have to build up your resistance to a lot of energy types, and in this regard I do suggest you periodically train with even just one breath of each Element.
Don't know what your natal chart is like or if you know what Elements are dominant and weakest in your Soul, but you should probably experiment (in a very easy and relaxed way!) with them and see if there's something you can learn about yourself over a number of sessions.
I find the Elements to be very good teachers as they 'push' you in extreme directions and force you to face parts of you that only deal with some features in the Soul. But of course this is also possibly the most intense kind of energy so do ignore this advice or just build a semi immunity to strong energy by using other meditations before coming back to these 4 purest forms of energy.
As for Earth, I'm not sure I know what to suggest here. In my experience, (perhaps because in me this is the weakest Element) Earth is the one that caused the most spiritual contacts: I felt roots in the ground, insects, a connection with plants to the point of realizing they communicate in an impossibly perfect way, making no two plants in the entire world disconnected from the 'plant matrix' so to speak, and I also learned a lot from spiders and how the sense of touch (something Earth teaches about) can be used to 'bridge' a person and other dimensions. Also, Earth is said to be an Element that causes death (by slowing the heart rate past the point of no return, technically) so do not overdo this even if you're confident. Talk to your incubus or your Guardian about it if you need to, but your safety comes first.

Me, I'm the other way around: I can't see astral or any Gods unless I REALLY empty my mind with closed eyes and manage to summon a brief flashing vision which I can later recall.. kind of like a polaroid photograph in a way, I only hear astral sounds even more rarely, the greatest and perhaps only real success I had in 2012 when I asked a Goddess her name and heard her voice distinctly (although with a lot of echoing), and my only real astral sense for the past 20 years has been the ability to pick up scents... but this still didn't help as it is more like a sort of "remote viewing" but with scents, meaning I could tell what kind of shampoo my friend in Oregon had used but I couldn't tell a thing about the Gods (I could somehow smell greys to the point of almost 'tasting' their disgusting rotten meat bodies... that was one way of telling when they posed as someone friendly in a dream gone slightly lucid). All this perceptive stuff, I royally suck at. On the other hand: I can create thoughtforms that take me a couple seconds to make but that perceptive enough people on the other side of the world will feel as almost physical and highly energetic, had a decent grip on manipulating the weather until I decided to stop because I could also do a lot of damage in some region.. (no joke.. the weather is a massive weapon, just look at Texas and how the HAARP has made ice that won't even melt with fire), my best ever "magick" has been of the healing kind (I'll leave it at that as I did say too much in one of my first posts), and I can probably absorb Elements until I decide to stop without feeling any discomfort.

So.. Perceptive and Projecting. I guess this is one of the most beautiful things about sharing information with other Brothers and Sisters, we get to help those that are in need of answers we have, and we receive the answers we're longing for in return. Constantly evolving. Until the Gods will finally come back and we'll evolve so much faster this current reality will probably seem like a nearly impossible bad dream we're finally leaving for good.

GD. said:
About the revealing part that you said, I would never put personal information on a forum (in general), especially in a place where enemies are closely watching. This is why, even in the beginning of my last message in this topic here, I was generally speaking about myself, even if I do know exactly who I was, I hesitated, and I will continue to, as it can reveal a lot about myself now, putting me in an extreme danger. But asides of that, it is an indescribable pleasure to share with my brothers and sisters whatever I feel like sharing if it is in both of our interest and benefit, or at least in theirs.

You're absolutely right, it's safer not to give some information (and I did probably say too much in this one :p but I'm now very well protected and know how to deal with attacks much better than I did last year or the years before), so only ever say as much as you're comfortable saying, and don't be too direct making it easier for others (the enemy) to filter messages by keywords. But I agree, it is an indescribable pleasure to share more with Brothers and Sisters. We are normally surrounded by NPCs that we can't tell anything about and it does get lonely when one isn't the best at reaching the Gods on a whim (for me it is at least), so this is a really nice change. And of course there's another factor at play, something newbies love: knowing other Zevism have already accomplished some magickal feats serve as a personal boost, either because it (usually) proves something CAN be done (cuz others did before us) and it also makes us want to give our best because we don't want to be left behind, and treat these people as 'older' brothers and sisters in real life, to a degree.
We're all a huge, marvelous, Satanic Family. One day we will all personally know each other. :)

Always good to talk with you, Sister.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
For how much wisdom has passed you by without understanding it, and how much more will? But the good news is, we do have all the time we need.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Another well written and excellent sermon, thank you!
 
mercury_wisdom said:
NakedPluto said:
I can put a literal Sun in front of a diamond, yet it is covered in dirt, the diamond would be no different from any other stone, and it will propagate no shine further. Another thing is that the diamond itself would think of itself as a little dirty thing, and the Sun a bully for making it obvious to him that he's dirty.
I love this! :)

That piece of coal needs to stop thinking they a diamond then and meditate ๐Ÿ™ƒ
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
I'd make Aquarius proud now lol
Proud of you boyy.
Let delusions die, let a honest and real worldview take their place.
I actually hate delusions so much, I used to be very afflicted by them, being a guy with a lot of immagination.
 
Aquarius said:
Proud of you boyy.
Let delusions die, let a honest and real worldview take their place.
I actually hate delusions so much, I used to be very afflicted by them, being a guy with a lot of immagination.

Proud? lol, don't be, I was being sarcastic. Don't get me wrong, I do understand what you're trying to say when you say something is 'delusional'. I believe many Satanists come from the same mindset and at some point just HAD to realize that some things, whether because they seem too impossible or because perhaps science as we know it currently failed to explain them.. or it even disproves the possibility of them happening in this reality, are 'not possible'.

Thing is, we can definitely state that something is possible when we have proof for ourselves (we either witnessed it happening and there was no question about it, or better yet, we have done that something ourselves), but we CANNOT state that something is impossible just because we have never witnessed it or done it or lived through it. That's just called being in denial of something due to lack of proof for oneself.
If a Neanderthal told another that he saw a white metal bird flying in the sky and leaving a trail, the other would club him in the head perhaps, either unable to believe such a story or scared of what he told him. Today, we know it's called "airplane" and we have no problem accepting that fact.

Delusional is one thing, but most of us don't get to do something before someone else has already done it. Those that DO do something before anyone else (or have done so in the last couple millennia and more) usually cringe at the thought of telling it to someone else, knowing what reaction they'll expect.

A nice quote from a cartoon sums this up:
"When you base your expectations only on what you see, you blind yourself to the possibilities of a new reality."

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
Thank you so much for the idea of that thoughtform, but I thought I'll do a thoughtform which stays in the corner of my room, just so if it gets too much energy, I do not have contact with it at all, but I gradually get the energy from it, and leave some to empower it so it can take more and more energy. I will also try to work only with amounts of energy I can handle, so I bet there isn't gonna be any problem.

You also gave me the idea of making one of a short life first, as I have never made any thoughtform consciously, it would be a good idea to start slow.

As for elements in the chart, I bet they have nothing to do with the actual power of elements in the soul, but rather they represent the personality or mental traits one has. For example, I have most of my planets in air signs, but I am not really good at using air. I tried telekinesis a few years ago, but I've done it with my aura, expanding it, not with the air, because it was hard to use it, or I didn't know how to. While on the other hand, fire is one of my weakest elements, but I can easily heat up something, and pirokinesis came naturally for me. Now saying about mentality and personality I have, it matches exactly the order of elements' dominance in my chart.

Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
Green? Mmm... really don't know about that. Thinking about it right now, I can only assume that the green color is not "because the light is green" but because that's probably how your astral eyes see light, and compared to your physical eyes' vision it's more green, or picks up the green better, so that's how you perceive sight during an astral projection. Could very well be wrong of course..
And yeah, taking my time.. even if this is actually still a problem because I think I'm lacking determination here. You're laying down and getting your body to relax.. you're only one step away from sleep but gotta keep trying to exit the body (doing whatever technique of your choice). I find the moment I "forget to focus" on this, I fall asleep and it all goes to shit. Some books suggest the absolutely best time for trying to pull an AP is the moment you wake up.. they suggested to train yourself to wake up without moving at all, not even opening the eyes, and using one of the various techniques that can trigger an exit. Don't know about that, I tend to just be pissed about annoying dreams I just had when I wake up, not really thinking "oh shit, I better try astral projection now! Here we go!" ...I'm more like "fuck these dreams.." and "I should sleep less" lol

I think it was green because the energy was green, and I actually saw energy, but I, however, may be wrong as well.

And taking your time is crucial for most things, I see it like you should do whatever you want to do, let's say telepathy, but take as much time as you feel you need to do it until you finally succeed. After that, continuous repetition is needed for you to decrease the time spent on a skill like such. This may not be about determination, but rather patience, as this is one of the most important things one needs in this path, and it applies to most, if not all, of the workings and skills to develop.

And for those techniques, I think you should do whatever works for you unless it's unhealthy, or does harm you or anyone else or harms the environment and nature. I know you know about it but I am referring to drugs or making yourself swoon (or faint, I just searched the Internet for this word, as I didn't know it) just to do what you could've done in a trance state or stupid stuff in general. Such tricks as entering a trance as soon as you wake up are just fine if it works for one (I would personally fall asleep again lol), but if you find something similar that works for you, then do it, why not? But I still think that patience is the key.

Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
In that case (and cases where a non-Satanist has powers) I thought that she had probably been a Satanist in another life, but that perhaps she had been harassed since early childhood because the enemy goes after those that are gifted in order to scare them away from developing powers and understanding them, or trying to get these people afraid of themselves, making them think they're a danger to themselves and to others, who knows. Don't really know for sure, and yeah she only told me this stuff. There is the possibility of attention seeking, but because she could really feel well my thoughtforms (I used to call them "astral clone" back in 2003 when I had just discovered this skill) I considered her rather gifted so I believed that story.

Here... she told you she felt your thoughtforms, but, did you know that for sure? I generally test people in this kind of situations, by, for example, telling one I sent energy to them, even if I didn't, and asking them if they can feel it. Then you can know for sure. I think being skeptical helped me a lot this lifetime :lol:

Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
I've had many ups and downs with pendulums.. nothing too fancy, a thread and a golden ring with a blue quartz (grandma's gift), but even if I had very clear answers (and I normally double, or triple checked getting the same results every time) the answers weren't always very reliable I guess. Last time I used it, last year, to ask about my Guardian Demon, I was told that I have three of them... :/ asked in this Forum, got told that even two is very rare, three is more like an impossibility.. so I wouldn't really know. There are a couple Demons that I feel closer than everyone else, and there are new ones that somehow introduced themselves to me in their own ways, with numbers, sigils, visions... I learned to recognize a pattern made with various signs that validate each other over and over until I accept the answer. When I do, they suddenly stop.

Of course, if the pendulum is the way you seem to get the most answers and help out of, do keep it up. Some say it's an advanced skill and that it takes a lot to read it correctly... I don't necessarily agree, but you're pretty good from what I can tell so there won't be problems.

Just like any other skill, it of course takes practice, even if you can be gifted, perfecting it is recommended in my opinion. And for your guardian demons, if you don't know who they are yet, you will know in time. It seems really nice to have more, I think it means you can also adapt to different kind of personalities, as it would have no logic to have more gds with the same traits, but this is just how I personally see things, you know better :) . When I asked about mine, I thought it is Rofocal, because, before my dedication, I had a vision while looking at His sigil, I am not gonna talk about it, but I later found out He wasn't my guardian. First I asked Him if He is, in a trance state, and I felt He isn't, then I asked who is my guardian demon and I saw straight lines transforming into spirals, 3 times in a row. When I found out who my guardian is, after asking demons I felt close to through pendulum, the spirals appeared to be in His sigil. In my case I don't know about other guardians if any, but whatever, time will show me as I advance I guess :D

Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
I believe you. Didn't mean that I thought you weren't being honest, I hope I didn't answer in a way that suggested that. Quite the opposite. I can feel you're advanced. I was just surprised you mentioned Biokinesis because it's an all time favorite ability of mine and don't know many people that even know about it. From what I saw, many people have difficulty believing it's even real... I don't know why.

I actually answered in a way that suggested that others may think that, so don't worry, I can feel you're very opened to new information, always, and I personally must take some time to apreciate this, honestly. I assume you also filter the information, which is even better. And for biokinesis, I will continue to sustain my point of view, some things should be normal to human kind, including this, of course, not exaggerating, but being realistic, still.

Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
Can't remember where exactly it is written in the JoS (or how many times so far I've been quoting HPS Pythia saying that), but she clearly stated that "absolutely everything is possible". To me, everything means "everything". It doesn't mean "everything BUT this and this and this". It means "if you can visualize it happening, it can happen". Biokinesis is part of that everything in EVERY way, and if someone else doesn't believe in it, to me it simply means they won't be using it anytime soon. "Whether you think you can or you can't, either way you're right."

Just had a thought... could it be that you believe that, that we should be able to manipulate all matter including our bodies, because you're advanced enough that you realize that without anything holding you back? That you naturally sense what is obviously possible and accept it as such?

Of course, as I said above, being realistic and not exaggerating should be present. But with power comes wisdom, at least in this path of ours, so even if it may be possible, one would not grow a tail or make "elf ears" or whatever mutilation of the human body just because they "feel like it" or think that "it looks nice". Everything, at least in our lives if not in the whole world, should be balanced, and at that point where one can, for real, change whatever one wants at their body, they will know how to discern the actual beneficial change to a law of the nature breaking.
For the questions... you tell me...

And about the Raja yoga, I'll see how I can get one of those without any money, maybe I'll find a free pdf or something. But for the transformation part, I said it above as well, without breaking the laws of nature, I think is the reason why most people see changing your body as impossible, they think this breaks the laws of nature and is something they aren't familiar with just yet.

Hindu mythology isn't something I was interested in, never was. But I think I will look up for some stories from there as well, as I have enough space for new information, always, and it isn't a bad idea, whenever, to have additional info on some topics.

Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
HP Zevios sometime ago did write about people that we CANNOT wake up. That we shouldn't even try to wake up. It's not our responsibility, it's theirs.
...
It's a scary thought that many that live and breath today will just choose death and worse in their conviction that they're going to be "saved" by a fake dummy that doesn't exist.

I know that, this is why Satan gave us free will, to use it. I do not feel any responsibility for what these people do, but it doesn't feel good to know that people that maybe love you, choose decay, instead of accepting the actual truth, or at least searching for it.

Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
Yeah, it's Australia lol, but I am originally from Europe.. Italy (hence why I buy books in Italian lol). And your English is so good I thought you were from UK or the US, nothing wrong with it as far as I can tell. :)

Thank you, even though I know I should work on my tenses a bit and there are a few words I still don't know :oops: But being here is an experience from which I can learn, just as everyone does. Writing messages here maybe helps me exercise my English writing skills as well, aside of helping other people, getting helped and mutual support and inspiration, which are the main ground for being here.

Take good care, Brother! Hail Satan!
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
HAIL SATAN FOREVER! HAIL LERAJE!

"extinguish the candle" I haven't seen that on the website. How do you do it? I have so much air it's not even funny, so I could use some focus exercises.
 
Big Dipper said:
"extinguish the candle" I haven't seen that on the website. How do you do it? I have so much air it's not even funny, so I could use some focus exercises.

This is the page where it gives you those instructions.

Personally, I've tried with black aura between my hands but haven't been successful so far, what seemed to work for me was trying Earth and Water energies together (just visualize them or feel them both if you have a clear idea how they feel.. slow/dense and, basically, cold).

As for having much Air, I hear you Brother. It seems we're not very few sharing this dominant Element in here, but no one should think of Air as a weakness. I've seen people praise Fire dominance and treat Water dominance like it's a plague, thinking Fire gives you confidence and power and Water gives you inability to control your emotions, but everyone has got their strengths and weaknesses. Air is actually a very cool Element to use once you take the time to explore it and understand what skills it easily can lead to. If you want to read more about it, there was a pretty extensive discussion on my "Regarding Elements" post (in the first maybe 30 posts I guess?), and a lot of valuable information made me strongly consider Air as the best choice for me.
I can tell it's a tricky one to understand, it is subtle and at a first glance there may be little skills that one sees in it.. actually, "more flaws than assets" is a common first impression. :lol: But it's really not like that, in my opinion.

If you have tons of planets in Air and see that you have zero planet in some other Element, don't despair. I used to think of this as an obvious flaw, but I later learned how the missing Elements display themselves in your life. You just have to explore them as gently as you can and never overdo Elemental magick on yourself.

I really don't have the time to go browsing right now, but I'll find you one of those more eye opening posts I mentioned in my ....aaah, fuck that. Here it is lol https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=200249#p200249 (you'll probably be more interested in the first paragraph, the rest are answers to others mostly I think.. you can read anything that feels familiar or useful of course).

This isn't really that much, there were many voices in this post and I learned from various sources (I'm also almost sure there was similar information in my very first post, but it's going to take really ages to browse through it now.. it was between me and Brothers Ghost in the Machine and Stormblood, both provided a lot of good insight on how to use Air. Have a read if you have got the time. The "Regarding Elements" post became something like a chatroom between Apprentice and me, we're both Air too and helping each other out as we discover more about ourselves. I hope it can be of use to other people, not just us. Knowledge revealed by few of us should always be intended for all our Family to grow and better themselves.

Hope that helps, let me know if you have questions.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER! HAIL LERAJE!
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
Big Dipper said:
"extinguish the candle" I haven't seen that on the website. How do you do it? I have so much air it's not even funny, so I could use some focus exercises.

This is the page where it gives you those instructions.

Personally, I've tried with black aura between my hands but haven't been successful so far, what seemed to work for me was trying Earth and Water energies together (just visualize them or feel them both if you have a clear idea how they feel.. slow/dense and, basically, cold).

As for having much Air, I hear you Brother. It seems we're not very few sharing this dominant Element in here, but no one should think of Air as a weakness. I've seen people praise Fire dominance and treat Water dominance like it's a plague, thinking Fire gives you confidence and power and Water gives you inability to control your emotions, but everyone has got their strengths and weaknesses. Air is actually a very cool Element to use once you take the time to explore it and understand what skills it easily can lead to. If you want to read more about it, there was a pretty extensive discussion on my "Regarding Elements" post (in the first maybe 30 posts I guess?), and a lot of valuable information made me strongly consider Air as the best choice for me.
I can tell it's a tricky one to understand, it is subtle and at a first glance there may be little skills that one sees in it.. actually, "more flaws than assets" is a common first impression. :lol: But it's really not like that, in my opinion.

If you have tons of planets in Air and see that you have zero planet in some other Element, don't despair. I used to think of this as an obvious flaw, but I later learned how the missing Elements display themselves in your life. You just have to explore them as gently as you can and never overdo Elemental magick on yourself.

I really don't have the time to go browsing right now, but I'll find you one of those more eye opening posts I mentioned in my ....aaah, fuck that. Here it is lol https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=200249#p200249 (you'll probably be more interested in the first paragraph, the rest are answers to others mostly I think.. you can read anything that feels familiar or useful of course).

This isn't really that much, there were many voices in this post and I learned from various sources (I'm also almost sure there was similar information in my very first post, but it's going to take really ages to browse through it now.. it was between me and Brothers Ghost in the Machine and Stormblood, both provided a lot of good insight on how to use Air. Have a read if you have got the time. The "Regarding Elements" post became something like a chatroom between Apprentice and me, we're both Air too and helping each other out as we discover more about ourselves. I hope it can be of use to other people, not just us. Knowledge revealed by few of us should always be intended for all our Family to grow and better themselves.

Hope that helps, let me know if you have questions.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER! HAIL LERAJE!

oooh okie dokie thanks a bunch
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Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
I would had suggested that we move this message to one of my forgotten posts not to bother people with long replies, but some of the information we're discovering through experience is so good I hope more will find it and use it to grow!

I had the best Beltane in many years! Hope yours was the same, Sister!

HAIL SATAN FOREVER! HAIL THE GODS AND GODDESSES OF THE GENTILES!

I swear I wrote something again, of the same manner, and I've accidentally lost the message somehow, my fault, still really long message as usual, it is extremely weird. I guess it is something that I really shouldn't say.. I will just reply to this as I do not have enough time, but I will take my time to rewrite everything in the next days, making sure I do not include that part, it is really interesting that I managed to save everything that I wrote until now, but WITHOUT that part...

I wanted to respond to this "moving the conversation" thing, I think it would be a good idea, even if there are people who will see this conversation here, or still read it, in the end will be the link of yours to the continuation, so they will click the link to read further if they want to do so. So seems really good to me. If I feel like doing so, I will send the response for your message on the topic you send the link to. I have no problem with this.
 

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