HPHoodedCobra said:
I was not making a strawman. I outlined what I thought were logical implications of a pro-genocide worldview and asked if you agreed. I didn't state you agreed with them. The reason wasn't to bait you into saying something you didn't intend to say, I genuinely wanted to know if you believed in any of those lines of thought. The outcome I wanted to avoid was getting an unclear answer and having to clarify my question to ask more specifically whether you believed certain things. Essentially, I was trying to speed up the conversation but did not realize how it would annoy you. I realize now that the way i asked was a mistake and clearly ended up being offensive rather than actually furthering the discussion effectively at all. Therefore, I'm changing my writing to no longer cause that problem, assuming that this post is actually approved. I think it would be rather extreme if I was simply banned with 0 warnings in advance to change my posting style or face a potential ban. That would seem to undermine one of the central points of discussion forums altogether, that people are able to discuss.
Since it bothered you, I will rephrase what I said earlier and turn it into a question:What do you think should happen as a result of the RTRS, within the next 50 or 100 years? What do you think the state of humanity and the Earth should be in 2150? Assuming that things go in a way you would outline as ideal or at least acceptable of course.
The reason I didn't state my personal opinion about the Holocaust was to avoid making an aggressive sounding post which would make the discussion hostile. It seemed like you would be upset if I stated my opinion, which is that the Holocaust didn't happen and that this not happening was a good thing. Overall, the idea I am getting at is that genocide would have been wrong. Of course, it looks like I should have said that from the beginning, considering the conclusion you came to.
There is one statement I need to correct: I was wrong to say the Final RTR states it is about spiritual annihilation of Yehuborim. It does not specifically say that in the ritual's text, and I don't remember seeing any posts by HPMaxine which state that. It only states that it is about erasing the Hebrew alphabet. However, you in particular did make a post seemingly stating that the Final RTR is about spiritual genocide in the "FAQ about the Final RTR" thread.
For reference, here is specifically what you said that I am talking about. It was something I was thinking of when I made my previous post:
Specifically this:
HPHoodedCobra666 said:
It's a reversal of the very existence of the enemy in all senses.
That line definitely seemed to be in favor of spiritual genocide of some kind, but since you seem to not want to be strawmanned or have anything assumed about your thinking, I will just wait to see if you have any thoughts you want to mention about it.
Also, no, I am not a Yehubor.
txg said:
I phrased the post the way I did because I had two goals, being respectful and starting a conversation. The first of those two is a goal you definitely don't seem to share at all. The goal of being respectful was also the reason I didn't simply state my opinion about the Holocaust immediately, since I thought it would come off as aggressive. Instead you just ignored all of that and decided to be rude, assuming that I was unable to come to my own opinion, so I will just tell you my opinion now: I do think it was a good thing that the Germans did not holocaust the Yehuborim, and that the Holohoax was indeed just a hoax.
I am not saying you or HoodedCobra perfectly know what Hitler's exact true thoughts on the Yehuborim were, I don't know that either. I was asking HoodedCobra what he thought about the morality of genocide. I explained at the start of my post that I do not think the Holocaust happened and I agree with HoodedCobra on this point. You spent about 80% of your post stating the details of how the Holocaust is a hoax, which made it seem as if I did not understand this somehow. I did understand that it is a hoax and I agree with you on that.
You said that you think it should have been far worse for the Yehuborim than it really was. That's pretty inspecific and vague, and provides very little information to me overall, but if you don't want to elaborate or say anything else, I will not bother asking more.
I realize the purpose of the thread was to inform everyone about the facts of the situation of the Holocaust. In that respect it does well as a thread. I thought it was relevant to question the ideological component involved for Cobra, considering what I just quoted from him in the Final RTR FAQ thread.
txg said:
"So, once again, I just don't really get what you're saying here. Regardless of what you think Hitler did in the past to Yehuborim, do you think an actual Holocaust should be inflicted on Yehuborim in real life or not? I'm assuming you would 'yes' since that is what the Final RTR is saying should happen but in that case your whole argument here just does not make much sense to me."
lol it doesnt make sense to you because your a loser, its pretty clear.
the holocaust didnt happen. the 6 million number was a figure that a Yehuborim newspaper came up with with no proof. there are no gas chambers and auschwitz is a country lodge. zyklon b was used to kill lice. and the Yehuborim that died in camps died of starvation. not carbon monoxide poisoning, not gas showers. not ovens, not experimentation.
they were given ample shelter, clothing, food, space and the freedom to do whatever they wanted within the walls of the camps.
they died of starvation because aryan soldiers were dying and needed the resources.
the holocaust was an exaggeration and it should have been far worse for the Yehuborim.
regardless of anyone's agenda or opinion. the facts have been stated.
adolf hitler is not here, and what we say is OUR opinon, what cobra says is his opinion, maxine, danko,carlson,lucius, etc.
we all have our own thoughts and feelings, none of us here are in the position to speak for a historical leader.
he is just stating some facts leaving room for the reader to attain their own perspective.
are you capable of gaining an understanding of something as an individual, and formulating your own opinion?
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
txg said:
are you capable of gaining an understanding of something as an individual, and formulating your own opinion?
He is just sitting on the Yeshiva desk waiting for a "Radical statement" to show to Buzzfeed or some corn-fed retard that we Wuz Nazis and We Wuz Advocating Holololololol, while he pretends he is making a question.
As with always with Yehuborim, it doesn't matter what you say, nor that you have never said anything in like half a million written pages. What matters when you argue with a Yehubor, is his idea of what you stated. Based on this idea, which they believe superior to reality, they are out to condemn you.
However in order to do this they require to foil someone into a statement, which they can later twist for their own purposes.
I approved the comment because I enjoy when they do strawman, answer their own strawman, project their own argument as if stated by the person they are straw-manning, and then they also demand an answer by pretending it's all some sort of question.
I want children like him to get good grades as the Yeshiva, and display to everyone why information about the holocaust being a lie is pertinent to the future perception of this racial group.
All the comments of this guy are like Buzzfeed Strawman, always going on subjects which can and should cause problems, and they get agitated and increase the pace when this hasn't happened.
The Holololol that will happen is on this person's account. He can get a proxy on the Yeshiva and make another one, first post "DO ALL OF YOU GOYIM HERE SUPPORT TO GENOCIDE THE EVIL Yehuborim? I HAPPEN TO BE A Yehubor NAMED BAUER, SORRY I MEANT A GENTILE FROM VIKING GOYIM SWEDEN, AND I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THIS IS A GREAT THING TO DO AND SAY EVERYWHERE AND I DEFINITELY DO BELIEVE IN THIS!! LET ME SEE YOUR DIRTY NAZI HANDS UP IN NAZI SALUTE NOW, I GOT A CAMERA HERE TO TAKE PICTURES. OY VEY!"