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Temple of Zeus - a new Religion

The Alchemist7 [SG]

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Why hasn’t anything been written about their true origins before? For instance, in the writings of the High Priestess Pythia. My own worldview has been shaped by what I’ve read. Father Zeus said, ‘They are not my people.’ Are those just empty words? Or is the sentence left unfinished? Deep down, I would be glad to rid myself of this burden of hatred (I view everyone around me with suspicion, regardless of race or gender; in fact, can’t trust anyone). So here’s the thing. Why was this not mentioned in the writings of 2012 and 2015? Although I understand that we are all different, and our reactions vary too. But I am seriously concerned about the Temple of Zeus. I truly want everything to be well and pure. And for there to be no panic.

One of the clergy making a sermon about "certain" moderation changes, and then people's avatars and posts being removed without any explanation. Coincidence or something we all should be concerned about?
Is this something the Gods would approve?
Something to think about.

Greetings. What everyone needs to understand is that in the previous framework with some ”beliefs” that we held, that were never historically demonstrated either, ToZ would not have survived the future in many ways. Also what needs to be understood is that previously JoS has been influenced by currents that by legal standards will have people locked up in prison. It is not a matter of whether these beliefs were correct or wrong, but in fact they were very limited and catered to a lot of people who had no concern about us as a religion but only wanted a place to project hate and views that by current world standards are not really accepted (I am not saying that this is a good or bad thing, but it is just how things are and we must adapt and move on).

Nonetheless High Priest Zevios has built a religious core for ToZ that is far superior to what we had in the past, far superior to any other religion and far superior intellectually and philosophically to any yehuboric currents that frame the world as it is today. ToZ itself with its presence currently and with the knowledge that we have now is a very solid entity that will be far more appealing to the majority of people who in reality do not share any of the beliefs that JoS held in the past. The vast majority of people don't care about satanism, politics and other superficial things that defined out "doctrines" (no wonder why "Satanism" as a general term is viewed as edgy and questionable by most people). Temple of Zeus in its modern form is definitely something to look up to in the future instead of of dwelling in the negativity and hate that defined the vision of our past and that was totally unappealing for most people.

Also something people must be aware of.


There will come times when individual people like me and you will have to be careful about what they do online. Call it as you wish but it looks like this is the reality we are heading towards. In the future, things that people could safely say under ”anonymity” are not going to be safe anymore. This is one of the issues, the other issue was (it is not anymore), that we could not become what we are today in the previous setting. We are creating something religiously and philosophically far more elevated and that builds far more respect around the Gods, which has been our goal from the very beginning.
 
Meanwhile certain individuals are allowed to say and do whatever they want in a certain place.
I’ll keep it vague but basically imagine a magical place where you can say and do whatever you want basically and are even rewarded for it rather than punished.

These individuals are really living like “gods” on earth, meanwhile we have to gag ourselves. Really shows why power is important. Ironically this self-censoring demonstrates the importance of politics rather than its irrelevance.
 
Meanwhile certain individuals are allowed to say and do whatever they want in a certain place.
I’ll keep it vague but basically imagine a magical place where you can say and do whatever you want basically and are even rewarded for it rather than punished.

These individuals are really living like “gods” on earth, meanwhile we have to gag ourselves. Really shows why power is important. Ironically this self-censoring demonstrates the importance of politics rather than its irrelevance.
I would not say that we have to gag ourselves in the way that, it's only us that have to do this. Any serious religion does the same and they are bound to follow the dictates of current laws. People, organizations and countries that are straying from this and common sense and eventually resort to bestiality and total disrespect of any human values and common sense are sooner or later naturally going to face some sort of consequence, either here on Earth or in Ma'at judgement.

Anyhow I do believe Zevism is a solution to the world's problems as the Gods are assisting us and They want the whole world to be a better place, but we cannot limit ourselves in dangerous political and ideological traps that sooner or later are going to sabotage the Temple completely. The fact that we are staying far away from any socially-unacceptable elements is what allows growth to happen.
 
I am actually really glad the clergy shows in the actions they take this very seriously and do their best in order to bring the Temple of Zeus to the whole world. Which is why I will just raise some observations, so everyone sees why this is necessary and where this actually leads. The way I see it is just one of the steps to fully eradicate those basement dwelling narratives and make ToZ open to the whole world.

It appears the clergy have set-up the proper plan for all this transition. I have full trust that this community will grow even further and turn into a major religion. I will also mention this as this is definitely inevitable. No matter how much clean-up is going to be done here, the shadows of the past will always be weaponized against the Temple of Zeus who will be motivated to discredit/destroy the Temple. Yehuboric enemies will try to find ways to discredit ToZ, especially when ToZ becomes big and goes public. They will complain about lack of "transparency" of donation money. When this fails, then they will try to dig up into the past about previous High Priestess'es, her husband affiliations or whatever they will be able to come up with. This is inevitable as people on that side will try their best to discredit what causes a threat to them. And when all of this fails, then they might try some legal actions against this place. And when everything of this fails, ToZ still grows, then they will try pretending to be "friends", they will try to invite ToZ representatives in public and will try to defame/discredit them in public. All the previous botnet attacks, troll posts, edgy stuff here will look like nothing when serious initiatives will be introduced to destroy ToZ.

People should understand that the powers that are motivated to silence the Gods within Humanity are backed by billions if not trillions of USD, so at this point they have a massive amount of options to try whatever they like. Yes, the Gods are with us, but this in no way means we should sit here and do nothing when it is clear what the fact of ToZ going public in the future implies in reality.

I am writing this, so this is known and everyone would have a better understanding of what is being tried to achieve. I believe the clergy will reflect on this even deeper and in more extensive manner later when they complete their job with all of these changes. But sometimes one first needs to do the necessary job before talking about it. Probably the clergy already knows all of this and they are either ready or preparing for this seriously. Definitely, the clean-up of some edgy posts made by us is a must in order to circumvent potential legal attack vectors. This is very logical. I myself actually when establishing my own business in certain areas actually analyze the competitors and their legal weaknesses that I can utilize against them. This is just routine stuff to do when you try to enter the market. And it would be pretty naive to assume that in religions market laws have no effect. Some of them do have an effect. Of course, at least I do this from an honest angle as I also tend to provide superior services/products for the people, so at least I am morally justified in using the legal weaknesses of my potential competitors. But when talking about ToZ, we should understand we will not meet those who are moral or honest as ToZ itself is about absolute truth, honesty and morality.

The fact that even the clergy's number of posts was reduced shows that all of us were under the same influences in the past. And this is quite understandable. Who could have known ten years ago or earlier about such massive revelation? This is where this old phrase about unknown God's paths comes into place. But now we know, now we see and it would be stupid to keep everything the same as before. We need to go further, we need to transform. Sometimes, even foundations need some repairs.

And let us be real. Some of the posts that were allowed before were literally idiotic, retarded, and even illegal in some countries. Some of the posts even threatened other people, some of the posts actually suggested criminal behavior that is not tolerable. Yes, JoS also never tolerated anything illegal, official positions were absolutely legal. But the posts that suggested criminal activity just slipped through. Now this needed to be cleaned up.

On the other side, we also had posts that even spiritually were just stupid. How would it look to the whole world when someone finds out about some Zevist masturbating to his "spiritual lover"? Everyone from Yehubor would be extremely glad for such beefy material to discredit the whole Temple. And they would start preaching for months just about how HPZM is in favour of this. Some even more wicked ones would start claiming about HPZM's some "sexual preferences in spirituality". Of course, even this clean-up does not guarantee this would not happen (and I actually expect this to happen when ToZ becomes more widespread), but this clean-up might guarantee for the ToZ itself massive legal angles of defense against those who try to discredit/destroy ToZ. If everything here is pure and some Yehubor shits on HPZM, HPZM would be able to easily start his own legal process against such tongues.

I myself wrote some inadequate posts which makes it fully understandable right now that they got removed. We either accept this or not. This is part of growing up and becoming more mature. For myself it looks like a big win. The fact that in less than two years I have grown so much and can accept the decisions here like this shows that I really have grown so much. Which means that everyone else who properly practiced also should have grown as much or more. For myself, I can definitely say that without ToZ I would have never grown the same amount even in decades that I did in less than two years. And if the ToZ introduces even more changes that will result in an even more accelerated growth of me, then I am fully all in.

So yes, I think the changes must be not just welcome, but also understood as absolutely necessary for the long-term vision of the Temple. If we really want to build a presence in the outside world, this is how it must be done. Sometimes, steps will be small and hardly noticeable. Sometimes, those steps will be a little more noticeable like this one. But all of this leads to where we need to go.

Also, aligning with law does not mean that ToZ starts licking ass to some authorities. This would be an extremely stupid assumption. If some country legally does not allow murder and punishes for it, it does not mean that someone licks the government's ass just because he/she does not kill anyone. And in this case, the contrary is true. What ToZ does is basically cleaning up in a way that potential enemies would have no leverage against the Temple. The fact that the Temple converts itself into something that is able to have proper presence is the biggest threat that can happen to those who want us destroyed. The potential enemies who want us destroyed would be much more happy if we would still lurk in our basements, worship "Satan" and talk about historical narratives from the twentieth century. I am not sure if I can speak for the clergy, but if I would be allowed to, then I would say this. Bad for them, we are not falling for that.
 
Greetings. What everyone needs to understand is that in the previous framework with some ”beliefs” that we held, that were never historically demonstrated either, ToZ would not have survived the future in many ways. Also what needs to be understood is that previously JoS has been influenced by currents that by legal standards will have people locked up in prison. It is not a matter of whether these beliefs were correct or wrong, but in fact they were very limited and catered to a lot of people who had no concern about us as a religion but only wanted a place to project hate and views that by current world standards are not really accepted (I am not saying that this is a good or bad thing, but it is just how things are and we must adapt and move on).

Nonetheless High Priest Zevios has built a religious core for ToZ that is far superior to what we had in the past, far superior to any other religion and far superior intelectually and philosophically to any yehuboric currents that frame the world as it is today. ToZ itself with its presence currently and with the knowledge that we have now iis a very solid entity that will be far more appealing to the majority of people who in reality do not share are of the beliefs that JoS held in the past. The vast majority of people don't care about satanism, politics and other superficial things that defined out "doctrines" (no wonder why "Satanism" as a general term is viewed as edgy and questionable by most people). Temple of Zeus in its modern form is definitely something to look up to in the future insted of of dwelling in the negativity and hate that defined the vision of our past and that was totally unappealing for most people.

Also something people must be aware of.


There will come times when individual people like me and you will have to be careful about what they do online. Call it as you wish but it looks like this is the reality we are heading towards. In the future, things that people could safely say under ”anonymity” are not going to be safe anymore. This is one of the issues, the other issue was (it is not anymore), that we could not become what we are today in the previous setting. We are creating something religiously and philosophically far more elevated and that builds far more respect around the Gods, which has been our goal from the very beginning.
My old profile picture didn't have any satanic roots and I don't think it violates any of the rules we have on the forums can I put it back?
 
I am actually really glad the clergy shows in the actions they take this very seriously and do their best in order to bring the Temple of Zeus to the whole world. Which is why I will just raise some observations, so everyone sees why this is necessary and where this actually leads. The way I see it is just one of the steps to fully eradicate those basement dwelling narratives and make ToZ open to the whole world.

It appears the clergy have set-up the proper plan for all this transition. I have full trust that this community will grow even further and turn into a major religion. I will also mention this as this is definitely inevitable. No matter how much clean-up is going to be done here, the shadows of the past will always be weaponized against the Temple of Zeus who will be motivated to discredit/destroy the Temple. Yehuboric enemies will try to find ways to discredit ToZ, especially when ToZ becomes big and goes public. They will complain about lack of "transparency" of donation money. When this fails, then they will try to dig up into the past about previous High Priestess'es, her husband affiliations or whatever they will be able to come up with. This is inevitable as people on that side will try their best to discredit what causes a threat to them. And when all of this fails, then they might try some legal actions against this place. And when everything of this fails, ToZ still grows, then they will try pretending to be "friends", they will try to invite ToZ representatives in public and will try to defame/discredit them in public. All the previous botnet attacks, troll posts, edgy stuff here will look like nothing when serious initiatives will be introduced to destroy ToZ.

People should understand that the powers that are motivated to silence the Gods within Humanity are backed by billions if not trillions of USD, so at this point they have a massive amount of options to try whatever they like. Yes, the Gods are with us, but this in no way means we should sit here and do nothing when it is clear what the fact of ToZ going public in the future implies in reality.

I am writing this, so this is known and everyone would have a better understanding of what is being tried to achieve. I believe the clergy will reflect on this even deeper and in more extensive manner later when they complete their job with all of these changes. But sometimes one first needs to do the necessary job before talking about it. Probably the clergy already knows all of this and they are either ready or preparing for this seriously. Definitely, the clean-up of some edgy posts made by us is a must in order to circumvent potential legal attack vectors. This is very logical. I myself actually when establishing my own business in certain areas actually analyze the competitors and their legal weaknesses that I can utilize against them. This is just routine stuff to do when you try to enter the market. And it would be pretty naive to assume that in religions market laws have no effect. Some of them do have an effect. Of course, at least I do this from an honest angle as I also tend to provide superior services/products for the people, so at least I am morally justified in using the legal weaknesses of my potential competitors. But when talking about ToZ, we should understand we will not meet those who are moral or honest as ToZ itself is about absolute truth, honesty and morality.

The fact that even the clergy's number of posts was reduced shows that all of us were under the same influences in the past. And this is quite understandable. Who could have known ten years ago or earlier about such massive revelation? This is where this old phrase about unknown God's paths comes into place. But now we know, now we see and it would be stupid to keep everything the same as before. We need to go further, we need to transform. Sometimes, even foundations need some repairs.

And let us be real. Some of the posts that were allowed before were literally idiotic, retarded, and even illegal in some countries. Some of the posts even threatened other people, some of the posts actually suggested criminal behavior that is not tolerable. Yes, JoS also never tolerated anything illegal, official positions were absolutely legal. But the posts that suggested criminal activity just slipped through. Now this needed to be cleaned up.

On the other side, we also had posts that even spiritually were just stupid. How would it look to the whole world when someone finds out about some Zevist masturbating to his "spiritual lover"? Everyone from Yehubor would be extremely glad for such beefy material to discredit the whole Temple. And they would start preaching for months just about how HPZM is in favour of this. Some even more wicked ones would start claiming about HPZM's some "sexual preferences in spirituality". Of course, even this clean-up does not guarantee this would not happen (and I actually expect this to happen when ToZ becomes more widespread), but this clean-up might guarantee for the ToZ itself massive legal angles of defense against those who try to discredit/destroy ToZ. If everything here is pure and some Yehubor shits on HPZM, HPZM would be able to easily start his own legal process against such tongues.

I myself wrote some inadequate posts which makes it fully understandable right now that they got removed. We either accept this or not. This is part of growing up and becoming more mature. For myself it looks like a big win. The fact that in less than two years I have grown so much and can accept the decisions here like this shows that I really have grown so much. Which means that everyone else who properly practiced also should have grown as much or more. For myself, I can definitely say that without ToZ I would have never grown the same amount even in decades that I did in less than two years. And if the ToZ introduces even more changes that will result in an even more accelerated growth of me, then I am fully all in.

So yes, I think the changes must be not just welcome, but also understood as absolutely necessary for the long-term vision of the Temple. If we really want to build a presence in the outside world, this is how it must be done. Sometimes, steps will be small and hardly noticeable. Sometimes, those steps will be a little more noticeable like this one. But all of this leads to where we need to go.

Also, aligning with law does not mean that ToZ starts licking ass to some authorities. This would be an extremely stupid assumption. If some country legally does not allow murder and punishes for it, it does not mean that someone licks the government's ass just because he/she does not kill anyone. And in this case, the contrary is true. What ToZ does is basically cleaning up in a way that potential enemies would have no leverage against the Temple. The fact that the Temple converts itself into something that is able to have proper presence is the biggest threat that can happen to those who want us destroyed. The potential enemies who want us destroyed would be much more happy if we would still lurk in our basements, worship "Satan" and talk about historical narratives from the twentieth century. I am not sure if I can speak for the clergy, but if I would be allowed to, then I would say this. Bad for them, we are not falling for that.

I have this feeling that once the Temple of Zeus becomes a global platform, things will change dramatically for the planet. Imagine millions of people performing blessing rituals, millions of people building their souls, meditating constantly and with unparalleled tenacity, millions of Zevists contributing exponentially day after day to the growth of this planet. Instead of millions of people following the Yehuboric program, as is currently the case, the world would change so much that we would have a glimpse of what could be a golden age. I get emotional just thinking about it.. 🥹

Now, compared to the global population, we are truly few, and with our rituals, we have managed to do so much, imagine what we could do if we grew exponentially..

For me this is a dream come true, and I hope I can live long enough in this life to finally see the world moving ever upward!!! 😍
 
JoS/Zevism was the first place that I finally saw a semblance of seriousness of logic. The people around me, inside and outside my family, lacked this heavily while I grew up and I was always disappointed, starting as a small child and up, by it to the point of depression and suicidal. JoS showed me there is light for what seemed like a gloom future if this was what human adults where like. Unfortunately the groups and forums proved to me that this is a deep rooted problem in humans in general. The new updates have given a clear understanding of this problem. It is why I felt intuitively and now with the knowledge read I feel it to be a huge step forward for the Temple of Zeus.

Aside the legality of things and Western political yehuboric affects, I am grateful for the upcoming growing of my and others' seriousness of character who are loyal to the Temple of Zeus. Seriousness in our approach to our growth individually and the growth of our community.
 

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