Stoped meditating for inabitity to concentrate when meditating because...

[SparkingPowerUP]

I start with this i need help in getting rid this voice but i don't know who it is or if it is my mind.

Yesterdey i tried to meditated like i always did but coudn't concentrate at all to meditate because he or it keept talking to me things and telling me i can't do it because I'm not concentrated enough and i talk more to him than i meditate and it's true and realized because that he always talks to me and telling me that i can't do it is programing me (i knew this from a long time ago) because that's the fact when someone keeps telling you something but i can't hold my self to not to talk back to him or it.
I asked who is it who is talking to me It said it is Satan/Lucifer and that he said i can't do it because he wants to help me to be with a girl (that i wanted so much) so to not to be alone this way it will be silent. But then sometimes it said he is from the enemy (the voice) and that it tricked me already but Satan said that enemies can interfere in the talk from time to time. But now it sais it's not Satan and he doesn't want me to live and telling me to kill my self. And also i got that this is paranoia because i was in a bad emotional state when i wanted to be with that girl and got back and forth in to talk to her or not and then i gave up on her.

So when the time when i had to meditate at the same hour i had a strong feeling not to do i and i asked Satan for help, the feeling dissapeared and i asked about the voice but that always remained but with the voice still coudn't meditate becaue it keept talking to me but when i'm with people it doesn't talk to me just when I'm alone or trying to meditate it also doesn't speak when i play an RTS game.

I can't meditate with this voice but i still want that girl. It's not imposible if i do the right things... and of course i also want to meditate and get stronger... I think if i would evoke a Demon i could get rid of the voice if i give something in return but i don't think i can talk to them and the only way i could it's the Ouija board. And if i don't know exactly what this voice is then can they help?

I many times got help in things here and there that were necessary but about this voice not really like i should get rid of it my self.

 

[Awakening666]

There is a part of your brain that has many voices, these are more conscious than the logistical mind aspect mind, you can speak to them, they can answer, there is non stop conversation in most people. The difficult for most until they learn self unification is distinguishing valid astral communication from this. Mantra forces you to focus in the eternal moment, you may then control it but should unify and not cancel feedback.

Valid communication will come despite your control. My theory is that split personalty is nothing of the sort, its part of the way mind interacts with itself and is natural it becomes dis-ease when panicked upon and the mind conforms to this expectation aided by a therapist.

Many spiritual people are misdiagnosed as schizos. They simply have an affinity and lack understanding or control. Worlds within also you know.

 

[Jack]

You might be schizophrenic if your having this problem over and over again and even after powerful mantra aop and ac ,banishing its not going away. Try this, whenever a voice talks to you immediately shift your concentration to your body. Feel that body, the anatomy, the feelings within. Concentrate on it. If the voice goes away know that its your own.Develop your concentration by doing void meditation on a diagram for extended periods of time everyday. If you do not have concentration and control over your mind and you advance spiritually your thoughts which are now much more powerful will start to fuck with you. You need to have complete control to dispel these powerful thoughts. Another thing to do is whenever there is a voice immediately visualize ether (search the website concerning how to deal with entities. I forgot Ethers color). If the thought goes away ,it is your own and if it doesn't it may be an entity. Concentrate on the ether. Report back after doing these.

 

[Gearshift]

Develop your concentration by doing void meditation on a diagram for extended periods of time everyday. If you do not have concentration and control over your mind and you advance spiritually your thoughts which are now much more powerful will start to fuck with you. You need to have complete control to dispel these powerful thoughts.

But isn't the fact that he is unable to concentrate nor meditate well, a sign he is unable to advance much further. Are you implying that even a half-assed empowerment session with power meditation will still acclimate further.

For example Tetragrammaton or Hatha/K-Yoga will boost the self. Your stating even with lackluster concentration and not voiding. He'll still have to deal with his mind expanding and becoming more powerful?

I want to know this because I've avoided mindfulness(void as we call it) for a long time. Have I done it plenty of times but I am a thinker and while there are ways to calm the mind(Careful use of Isa or vibrating Aum and also closing chakras as well as Akasha covering like you mentioned). I just can't seem to achieve the mythical status of in control of my thoughts. At the very least enjoyment of mindfulness isn't there.

On some level, not to sound weird, but how does the mind work once mindfulness has reached the point of control. Isn't it weird not to be thinking anything and be blank. How would you learn without thinking?

Also with Aum is it just raise the energy of Aum then return to mindfulness or do we program. What's the most reasonable way Aum can be used for mental control? Albeit I do think random stuff while reciting mantras as I'm constantly bored. So how would Aum help me out?

 

[NinRick]

I had voices in my head aswell, I just know thst this is horrible!
These voices said that they are my thoughts! And I really believed this one. I think this a common attack.

I came to Satan in honesty , crying, and said that I am so sorry for this thought and that I am not worthy of being a Satanist like this ( I quit Satanism, because I was soo ashamed of myself) but then as I finished, I felt a loving Energy, my room was full of light (litterally a broken bulb that didnt worked for quite a time startet to work again as I finished.) and these voices aka thoughts vanished

 

[NinRick]

They disappeared in like 1-5Secs asvI finished.

SATAN WILL NEVER LET YOU DOWN!

the enemy knows where to strike, they just want us to quit Satanism!

 

[SparkingPowerUP]

They disappeared in like 1-5Secs asvI finished.

SATAN WILL NEVER LET YOU DOWN!

the enemy knows where to strike, they just want us to quit Satanism!

Yeah bro but are we open enough to hear any entity? I didn't even opened my clairaudient chakras and do the voices told you that it's one of the Gods and his/her name? And also that he said "I am Satan/Lucifer" enemies can't throw the God's names around and telling us their names but my subcounscious can. Whether my subcounscious talks to me or the Gods themselves talk to me, i think it's my subcounscious but if they (the God's and Satan) talk to me do i deserve if I'm still a beginner and didn't do much in Zevism? Don't think so.
So my subcounscious wants to help me understand things and it moustly tells me useful stuff when i'm interested in understanding some subject but sometimes i don't fully understand some things. But i don't deny that it can be an enemy but this way that i can not hold my self to not respound back only the subcounscious can do that (meaning the subcounscious can make me talk back just to not let me die in a lonely and depressed state especially because i programed it some times for positivity and other stuff)

There is a women (outsider) who had similar happenings after she got alone and her partner left her and then "God" spoke to her and told her that she will bring the secound "Messiah" bullshit, the names have now no importantance but the deaper meaning, how did she feel? So happy as never before but when her partner left her she was very lonely and that's when the voice (God) appeared so what happened maybe if the subcounscious knows that this way it will be more bad why not telling her in her understanding of reality something to make her happy again because that's what she wants to be happy. In my canse it was in a connection about Zevism and that made me fell great, very great. And being with people makes me fell great, optimist and pozitive as i programed it but i know i have in my subcounscious that are of the enemyes like "every one loves me" this was before i dedicated and was just a normie and played with my subcounscious. So that i think it will be removed by learning on more in Zevism. But i realized not every one can love you, as a virus that want's to infect you will never love you because it only wants to consume you whether you love it or not.

 

[Gearshift]

Void

Hmm...now your confusing me. :?

I'll open up a new thread and avoid running over O.P.'s thread since he needs help.

 

[SparkingPowerUP]

I never told you about going to the shrink or anything. I'm simply describing the symptoms and it looks like your aware of your condition yourself. If you know how those people dealt with it then try to do that. I don't know why you would get muscular contractions by shifting your focus. Do you have multiple personality disorder where another personality also has control over your body ?

You didn't told me that but if you say someone is "schizophfrenic" that is linked with medication. If someone thinks of themselves as schizophrenic they have the obligation and mind set to get the medication because widouth it they can't live. And there is other stuffs that they can't do because that person is "schizophrenic".
Not sure about other personalities, no one of the voices could have control over my body.

Then why are you having muscular contractions when your concentrating on your body ? This might indicate you are talking to yourself and there's a war between the multiple personalities to gain control . Id' never tell you to take medication but what i thought was you could go see a qualified hypnotherapist. He could hypnotize you and eliminate the voices. This is just my opinion though, you should do whats best for you .

I have programed my subcounscious more times and once i watched like 20 videos of subliminal affirmations for 21 days and i think that is the problem (this was some time ago before dedicating)... so i think this is what is creating this i would have to remove the subliminal affirmations from before i dedicated or just wait untill they dissolve because they werent made so to be permanent and 21 days isn't much to program the subcounsious but people can have effects in 21 days.

 

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

I concentrate on my meditation then i get muscular contractions that distract me that remembers me of the voices so is there a logical explanation for this?

I'm not sure if this is 100% correct but I think that if there is really the enemy talking to you, you should hear the voice outside your head. I heard something similar recently but that "voice" was too low to distinguish any words (it was behind me) and after my laptop opened by itself (weird). As it was said, it might also be your own mind. How you can describe that voice? If you just hear that voice like only thoughts in your mind, when you hear it you should instantly do the void meditation to see if you still hear it and if it is outside your head.

FancyMancy said that the greys are masters of the mind. They want to scare and stop us to advance. As I said, these are just psychological games, they can't hurt us.

 

[SparkingPowerUP]

I concentrate on my meditation then i get muscular contractions that distract me that remembers me of the voices so is there a logical explanation for this?

I'm not sure if this is 100% correct but I think that if there is really the enemy talking to you, you should hear the voice outside your head. I heard something similar recently but that "voice" was too low to distinguish any words (it was behind me) and after my laptop opened by itself (weird). As it was said, it might also be your own mind. How you can describe that voice? If you just hear that voice like only thoughts in your mind, when you hear it you should instantly do the void meditation to see if you still hear it and if it is outside your head.

FancyMancy said that the greys are masters of the mind. They want to scare and stop us to advance. As I said, these are just psychological games, they can't hurt us.

I hear it inside my head in my thoughts but percieve it as someone else.
And sometimes i says things widouth me wanting (in my mind)
And i also had and have some wierd stuff about my phone like typing and then other letters are also typed or dots widouth me pressing them. And music that is playing stops on the pc.
This can be the enemies or my aura is interfering with electronic stuff i will have to tell it not to interfere with electronics.
And yeah they always try to scare me with stuff when i want to do something spiritual like meditations saying like "you won't succeed with this i won't let you" it always talks when i meditate.
Yeah they can't hurt us i understand that but if it always talks to you when you meditate and can't concentrate because it tries to say the same thing over and over again i stopped some meditations because i had some beliefs that didn't let me to do it because i could get worse because it all ways tell me something that "this will program the energy against me" something like that.