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Some Questions About Planetary Squares Answered

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos3 min to read

So I wanted to answer quickly some really popular questions about the squares. The Kabbalistic Squares are not the easiest of workings, but they can be the real keys to make functional changes in life.

For those who might be newer and don't understand yet what this post is about, refer to this page:
https://templeofzeus.org/Planetary_Squares.php

1. Do you completely re-do the square if you fail the amount of repetitions for the day? No, you don't have to.

You can let it go for this day and affirm that the energy for this day is cancelled, and do this later in the day with the correct amount of repetitions, after let's say some hours. For this to work, you need to be within the same planetary date.

For example, at 32 reps for the day, you are confused and you do 33. Before you do the affirmation, if you know you have been wrong, program this energy to do something else or let it dissipate. Allow 1 hour to pass, and then do again 32 for the same day, with the correct affirmation.

2. The real "daily" day for this square is the planetary date, not the date of the regular clock. Ie, you can conclude the same reps for this day until about 6 AM per day, and if you lose it at 12 AM, you didn't lose the day.

Check out planetary hours. Based on the conventional time calendar, the "day" changes at 12 AM. That is not accurate, it is false. You can still do a working for that day from the Sunrise of one day to the Sunrise of the next, which is typically at 6 AM. At 6 AM, the real next planetary day occurs.

The real day changes on about 6 AM broadly based on Planetary hours and the Sunrise in each location.

3. If you do a completely wrong number for the day and you affirm it, the square is gone, you must restart it.

4. If you muffle specific words or forget some of the mantra, you need to redo it for the day. It must be said accurately. Cracks of the throat, loss or short syllabes that were said, are OK. Only a wrong flat mispronouncing should be taken as a failed vibration, as in Gram to Sram.

5. If you have a set number of affirmation after it, like let's say 8, and you say 9, it is not a big problem. But it is better to stay always within the same number.

6. If you mumble the affirmation by accident, you can follow up and do it all again for the day.

7. Be aware that the higher the amount of focus and inner power, the better the outcomes of the squares.

The above is verified by those that have done hundreds of squares, and I had other advanced Zevism verify the situation before anything. Additionally, extensive experimentation that was necessitated and none of the above would have been written unless there was 100% certainty which was attained through extensive experimentation and consultation with the Demons on this.

Similar rules can also apply to other workings where there are set numbers of repetitions and affirmations.

One further information about the Squares is that the Methdodology that HPS Pythia has given on them is extremely powerful, and is based on the see-saw pattern or Boustrophedon, which has to do the serpentine movement and working. That is one of the reasons these squares are very powerful.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

#122
luissaid:
agnisaid:

Hello! Tell me, please, should the affirmation be done after each repetition or after all the number of repetitions of the planetary square? If after all the number of repetitions, how many times exactly? I always did after each repetition, but this question does not get out of my head.

HAIL ZEUS!

First you raise all the energy then you affirm. Even with the method you used it probably worked but its not the best method. So don't worry about but from now on do it correctly.

Aquariussaid:
agnisaid:

Hello! Tell me, please, should the affirmation be done after each repetition or after all the number of repetitions of the planetary square? If after all the number of repetitions, how many times exactly? I always did after each repetition, but this question does not get out of my head.

HAIL ZEUS!

After you do all repetitions. The number of times you affirm it is based on numerology, and it's subjective to your working.

Powerofjusticesaid:
agnisaid:

Hello! Tell me, please, should the affirmation be done after each repetition or after all the number of repetitions of the planetary square? If after all the number of repetitions, how many times exactly? I always did after each repetition, but this question does not get out of my head.

HAIL ZEUS!

State your affirmation after you have done all your repetitions for the day.

The number of affirmations isn't exact and can vary based on your needs/confidence level. Just do what feels right.

Thank you very much! You helped me a lot.

„ich habe ihn, den
Ammon bekleidet mit seinem Schmucke.....”.

«Das Ritualbuch des Ammondienstes»

#123

Please help!

So I started another Jupiter square today and I don't know if I messed up.

On the 12th repetition after SAU I had a brain fart and started to vibrate SSS because I recently finished a Sun square so I got muddled. However, I immediately stopped when I noticed my mistake and vibrated GURUVAE.

So it would of been like this,

SAH-UUU, Zevism--, GG-UUU-RR-UUU- AH-VAY

Is it ruined or?

#124
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

4. If you muffle specific words or forget some of the mantra, you need to redo it for the day. It must be said accurately. Cracks of the throat, loss or short syllabes that were said, are OK. Only a wrong flat mispronouncing should be taken as a failed vibration, as in Gram to Sram.

So if I forget to say HA, from Svaha, or MA, from Nama, in one of the repetitions, does it mean that it is OK?

#125
Elas Qilarsaid:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

4. If you muffle specific words or forget some of the mantra, you need to redo it for the day. It must be said accurately. Cracks of the throat, loss or short syllabes that were said, are OK. Only a wrong flat mispronouncing should be taken as a failed vibration, as in Gram to Sram.

So if I forget to say HA, from Svaha, or MA, from Nama, in one of the repetitions, does it mean that it is OK?

It means that it is not okay.

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#126
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

So I wanted to answer quickly some really popular questions about the squares. The Kabbalistic Squares are not the easiest of workings, but they can be the real keys to make functional changes in life.

For those who might be newer and don't understand yet what this post is about, refer to this page:
https://templeofzeus.org/Planetary_Squares.php

1. Do you completely re-do the square if you fail the amount of repetitions for the day? No, you don't have to.

Hi HP. I have asked some advanced members about this but they don't seem to know it for sure so I would like to clarify this with you.

I've been doing Mercury square for a month now.

I started the last session 6 minutes before the sunrise and finished it 10 minutes after the sunrise. It means that I started the working on one day and finished it on another day.

Is the square ruined?

#127

Greetings fellow satanists,

Today, I started material Venus square to improve my love life. When I started reciting affirmation after the Venus mantra, I accidentally changed wording while preserving the overall meaning. I realized it and quickly corrected myself.

Is it okay to state affirmations in a a little different wording if it does not impact the whole meaning? Or do I have to redo the whole square on Friday, next week?

#128

To strengthen the planet, the work should be performed before and during hard Saturn transits.

What is the hard aspect’s degree orb for the work to take effect?

The minor aspects are valid as well?

#129

As of late, these are some other things i have been meditating on and studying as far as the manifestation of planetary squares. It is very important to have the utmost concentration when programming the energy with the affirmation you want to attract/ have manifest, and while chanting the mantra, or the energy may very well be scattered in such a way that causes it to manifest or amplify things in your life that you attract or bring out of yourself, within influences of your chart that have to do with any other affairs of that planet whose square you are working with that do not have to do with your specific affirmation, which may not always manifest in beneficial ways.

Be certain also that the amplification of the energies of a certain planet will not negatively affect the house cusps that have the home or exalted signs, of the planet it aspects.

It is being noted in the articles for each planet that is being written that a planetary square can be beneficial, But this counts more so for weakness and debilitation vs affliction most of the time, especially with the planet being prominent or other wise strongly placed. Here, runic workings or cleaning would be more advised, just to clarify, as amplification of negative traits is not desired.

A prominent sun or mars for example, like a sun in aries in the 10th house with no saturn or neptune aspects but is conjunct mars, or venus, or a mars in aries or scorpio in the 8th house ect, that happens to be manifesting in excessive arrogance, narcissism, always being irate or confrontational ect, is better sublimated with something else other than a planetary square IMO. I think this also should have better been explained in the mars article i wrote awhile back, as more things and knowledge and experience have occurred to me since then, as squares are meant to amplify and strengthen. This is the general rule but to be taken on a case by case basis also. If anything has negative manifestations, especially nothing BUT, STOP. You either need to clean more or work with something different.

#130

Will an affirmation used for a Planetary Square be more effective when more details of the desired outcome is included?

For example when doing a Sun Square for money, if we include details like exactly how much money we desire, instead of affirming that we are attracting a lot of money, would the affirmation work?

If Zeus is all you have
then you have all you need!

"Create with all of your being. Destroy with all of your being." - Father Zeus

"Darkness is Light Turned Inside Out" - Beelzebul

"So Ask Me Not Many Things; For Thy Kingdom Also After A Little Time Is To Be Disrupted And Thy Glory Is But For A Season, And Short Will Be Thy Tyranny Over Us." - Asmodeus

HAIL FATHER ZEUS

#131
Stormbloodsaid:

Guys, I am not sure where you got the idea that squares do not need affirmations.

Caused by lack of time and lack of general mental capacity, I guess. I find myself unable to go deep if free time is too limited, unable to relax. I didn't bother scouring the forums because the descriptions on the squares pages were pretty explanatory.
The fact, that the pages of squares don't even mention the word 'affirmation' or 'directing the energy' didn't help either.

Here I am, necroposting, having finished my Venus square today. Without any affirmation whatsoever. And Venus was exalted in Pisces when I started! Damn.

I guess I'll cancel my Sun square, because I'm only 12 days in. The Sun is exalted in Aries! Damn.

We should add this information into the squares pages ASAP (and in all the translated pages, too).

#132
Apprenticesaid:

The fact, that the pages of squares don't even mention the word 'affirmation' or 'directing the energy' didn't help either.

Damn, I found it. However, it doesn't mention anything about the spiritual/health version of squares needing an affirmation. I did the spiritual version of Venus and am currently doing the spiritual Sun.

When you are finished with the vibration, if you are working on tangible prosperity [non-spiritual] goals, it is important to direct the energy you raised by stating an affirmation several times while visualizing your goal in the present reality and present tense.

#133
Apprenticesaid:

We should add this information into the squares pages ASAP (and in all the translated pages, too).

1+1 equals 2.

Meaning, three steps of witchcraft applies to squares as well.

Many things on JoS need to be mentally put together, like a puzzle. It's kind of a test.

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#134

Despite practicing, I am unable to roll my r's. Is this a square breaker?

Also, should the number of affirmations match the number of mantra's?

The Demons Favor our Undertaking.

#135

Try putting your tongue on the palate behind your teeth. Then, forcefully blow air out from the top of your tongue, allow it to vibrate from the force. You will sound like a tractor or a car engine.

This vibration that will create, can account for a rolled R. Does your skull vibrate when you do that?

The rolling has to be really slight. You don't have to worry that much about this, is what I am trying to say.

#136
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

Try putting your tongue on the palate behind your teeth. Then, forcefully blow air out from the top of your tongue, allow it to vibrate from the force. You will sound like a tractor or a car engine.

This vibration that will create, can account for a rolled R. Does your skull vibrate when you do that?

The rolling has to be really slight. You don't have to worry that much about this, is what I am trying to say.

Yes, I can make the vibration you suggested and feel it in my skull. I will preform this in place of the actual rolling R. This helps greatly - thank you.

The Demons Favor our Undertaking.

#137

I'm wondering if any examples can be given for any planet in a stellium in regards to the house placement. Like 3 planets in the 11th house- what would be an example of an 11th house affirmation with the sun and/or moon? Also, say you're working on a big purchase- a new home for example, would you do the planetary square that rules over your 4th? Or sun square for something to do with money?

I just want to have the right ideas for each square. Thank you and HAIL ZEUS!

#138

If the repetition is wrong and it is affirmed only once, does that ruin the square?
Or does it have to be affirmed the same amount you've been doing to ruin it?

#139
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:
Lightningsnakesaid:

For example, if I make 23 instead of 22.
Then at the end, instead of the original confirmation, I say, for example, 9 times that "this - - - - square is invalid" .
Then in an hour I might as well do that day's square?
Which I messed up.

You don't affirm the square "invalid", you can just say no affirmation or say "this energy is cancelled for today" or something like this, move on with your day, wait for about one hour or hours [before the day passes], and restart on the correct number of vibrations for the day, then doing the actual affirmation for the square correctly.

Hi, HP.

Can you cancel the energy of a square after doing the correct amount of vibrations and affirmations for the day, even if it is an hour or two after?

I started a Mars Square yesterday and decided about an hour after completing the daily reps/affirmations that it might be best for me to start again. So I affirmed that the work I did an hour earlier for Mars-Square-Day-1 was now cancelled, waited a few hours, and then re-did the first day of the Mars Square again during the hour of Mars later that evening.

Was this a valid method? Or do I need to start again?

Secondly, after the reps for the square are completed, is it better to begin and end each of your affirmations with "AUM", or does this interfere with the energy of the square?

Thank you.

#140

Querstion,

My affirmation for the venus square is: I am now increasingly more wealthy and rich, effortlessly and permanently

I am on day 3 and accidently said "I am increasingly more wealthy and rich, effortlessly and permanently", so i forgot to say "now" for today.

Is it okay still?

#141
GoldenxChild1said:

Querstion,

My affirmation for the venus square is: I am now increasingly more wealthy and rich, effortlessly and permanently

I am on day 3 and accidently said "I am increasingly more wealthy and rich, effortlessly and permanently", so i forgot to say "now" for today.

It's still fine. It's the overall intent of the affirmation that matters.