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There is a tale of Pythagoras when he wanted to be admitted to the Egyptian school they would only allow him within if he spent many weeks in spiritual solace doing a certain pranayama. When Pythagoras returned to the gates of the school he stated he had returned as a new being as before he was only intellectual and had no spiritual consciousness.
Nietzsche knew all this as his job was a professor in such Hellenic knowledge. Nietzsche's work is very much that of Schopenhauer of whom he was a disciple of. Both believed that nature was spiritual not materialistic like the Darwinist school and had a purpose of moving humans towards a psycho-physical, spiritual wholeness and perfection. This was the Teleology of man. Nietzsche and Schopenhauer both believed the higher man was one who practiced spiritual ascetism and obtained spiritual maturity and thus became psychologically whole. The archetype of such men is within the book the Anti-Christ as the golden class of society. Nietzsche's ideal of the higher man is one who by internal discipline has washed out of their psyche the state of Christianity psychology. He made no mistake about this.
Nietzsche knew all this as his job was a professor in such Hellenic knowledge. Nietzsche's work is very much that of Schopenhauer of whom he was a disciple of. Both believed that nature was spiritual not materialistic like the Darwinist school and had a purpose of moving humans towards a psycho-physical, spiritual wholeness and perfection. This was the Teleology of man. Nietzsche and Schopenhauer both believed the higher man was one who practiced spiritual ascetism and obtained spiritual maturity and thus became psychologically whole. The archetype of such men is within the book the Anti-Christ as the golden class of society. Nietzsche's ideal of the higher man is one who by internal discipline has washed out of their psyche the state of Christianity psychology. He made no mistake about this.
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Well done, HP, well done. I needed this. FancyMancy I've got my wish from finally!!
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Thanks for the insight, its good to have a greater sense of Nietzsche from JOS perspective. I always thought Shopenhauer as educator was a critique of the latter by Nietzsche claiming that Shopenhauer was a 'preacher of death' by advocating snuffing out the 'Will' by way of his Indian philosophy orientation
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Nietzsche's situation with Schopenhauer is the same with Wagner. He started off in total agreement with him then later turns on him. But can never escape him. Nietzsche in the end was Schopenhauer's ideal even in how he lived his actual life. Nietzsche even pays tribute to Schopenhauer in the concept of the overman as he states kindness is the highest virtue of such. Nietzsche's disagreement seems to be over what he believes is Schopenhauer's view of compassion for human suffering which is born out normal empathy. He believes its taken to a level were its a Christian fetishization of suffering. Were the overman's sense of compassion is from a natural empathy without such. In the end Nietzsche even ponders if the type of practices that Schopenhauer mentions are needed to create self realization and even his character Zarathustra is a device to this ideal and much a salute to Schopenhauer however with Nietzsche's aim towards such.
Schopenhauer believes that untamed desires lead to disaster and one should overcome such by practices to transform the will of life towards a higher goal. Nietzsche states the will or desire should be embraced and used to build the worthwhile life in the world he believes that Schopenhauer is denying life in how he comes to the situation of life.
However both understood the individual needs to have internal spiritual-psychic development to become a higher being. How they choose to then orientate their own model around such psychologically and idealistically is whatever. And that is what the ancient philosophers also understood its internal spiritual development that is the goal to be an ancient philosopher one had to be a spiritual practitioner.
Schopenhauer believes that untamed desires lead to disaster and one should overcome such by practices to transform the will of life towards a higher goal. Nietzsche states the will or desire should be embraced and used to build the worthwhile life in the world he believes that Schopenhauer is denying life in how he comes to the situation of life.
However both understood the individual needs to have internal spiritual-psychic development to become a higher being. How they choose to then orientate their own model around such psychologically and idealistically is whatever. And that is what the ancient philosophers also understood its internal spiritual development that is the goal to be an ancient philosopher one had to be a spiritual practitioner.
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HP Mageson666 said:
Thanks for the insight. For those unaware of esotericism and coming as I have been from a more exoteric outsider's view of these philosophers one gets only a dim glimpse into the meaning of their philosophy. I assume Neitzsche was a Dionysian(ie. Satanist). I assume also there are no historical records to reveal what he did in terms of esoteric practice?
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Nietzsche's big work was moving German philosophy away from Christian thinking and influence he lost his career for his work Zarathustra for its attacks on Christian ideology he couldn't get hired in any university in Germany after that and they told him for that reason openly. I suspect more then one German philosopher hated Christianity and somewhat worked outside of it but didn't come against it because they didn't want to deal with the blowback.
Nietzsche's ubermensch is in all reality a person free of Christianity who follows their own inner self realization to self development and actualization without any self sabotage they are free to manifest the life they wish in accordance with their spirit. This allows the person to follow their natural ascending path which is the normal flow of the will of life in the universe this is also the obvious reason we have this normal thing called ambition. Its the desire to evolve within us in and become something more and whole of a being. This is what Christianity is at war with within the human psyche.
I suspect that Rudolf Steiner might be the origin of the Jewing up of Nietzsche's works. He showed up in the late few years of Nietzsche's life when he was living with and being cared for by his sister. And he just seems to latch himself onto Nietzsche's train and even is hired by his sister. Steiner's goal was to take over the spiritual-philosophical trend in Germany and push all the actual spiritual knowledge and Paganism out of it and replace with a Judeo-Christian narrative and pass this off for "western" tradition. This is why the Thule Society denounced him as Steiner was also actively attempting to organize the Theosophical groups in Germany to oppose National Socialism and the Thule Society. Steiner used psychic warfare against them and got into a magical war with Thule and he lost. Steiner was known to be an agent of the Yehuborim.
Nietzsche due to his way of living spent most of his time in quiet places in solitude this opens up the mind psychically he even called his work meditations he had some type of discipline even appearing in a mundane practice. From studying his life I wonder how much of Nietzsche work was actually channelled without him knowing such. Tesla was the same and Hitler was an open medium who channelled some of his speeches and works as well but he did so knowingly as highly ascended being who had a life time of spiritual practice dealing with Kundalini energy and development of the mind.
Nietzsche's ubermensch is in all reality a person free of Christianity who follows their own inner self realization to self development and actualization without any self sabotage they are free to manifest the life they wish in accordance with their spirit. This allows the person to follow their natural ascending path which is the normal flow of the will of life in the universe this is also the obvious reason we have this normal thing called ambition. Its the desire to evolve within us in and become something more and whole of a being. This is what Christianity is at war with within the human psyche.
I suspect that Rudolf Steiner might be the origin of the Jewing up of Nietzsche's works. He showed up in the late few years of Nietzsche's life when he was living with and being cared for by his sister. And he just seems to latch himself onto Nietzsche's train and even is hired by his sister. Steiner's goal was to take over the spiritual-philosophical trend in Germany and push all the actual spiritual knowledge and Paganism out of it and replace with a Judeo-Christian narrative and pass this off for "western" tradition. This is why the Thule Society denounced him as Steiner was also actively attempting to organize the Theosophical groups in Germany to oppose National Socialism and the Thule Society. Steiner used psychic warfare against them and got into a magical war with Thule and he lost. Steiner was known to be an agent of the Yehuborim.
Nietzsche due to his way of living spent most of his time in quiet places in solitude this opens up the mind psychically he even called his work meditations he had some type of discipline even appearing in a mundane practice. From studying his life I wonder how much of Nietzsche work was actually channelled without him knowing such. Tesla was the same and Hitler was an open medium who channelled some of his speeches and works as well but he did so knowingly as highly ascended being who had a life time of spiritual practice dealing with Kundalini energy and development of the mind.
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