On 3/30/11, Matali Noka <
flashyflyingparachute@... wrote:
To the moderator: I've been trying to post this over and over again. Why
won't you let me? Please explain, if ever
http://nitaaiveda.com/All_Scriptures_By ... t_of_\
Chanting_Hare_Krishna/Chp_6_Introduction_to_hare_krsna_japa/Japa-Silent_\
or_Loud_.htm
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http://nitaaiveda.com/All_Scriptures_By ... rt_of\
_Chanting_Hare_Krishna/Chp_6_Introduction_to_hare_krsna_japa/Japa-Silent\
_or_Loud_.htm
"Upamsu-japa (soft whispering, inaudible to others) gives a reward one
thousand times more than Vaikhan-japa (verbal or loud enough to be heard
by others; not shouting). However, manasic-japa (silent mental chanting)
gives a reward tea million times more than loud chanting.
In the digdarsini tika to Hari-bhakti-vildsa, Sri Sanatana Gosvami says:
<blockquote"There are three types of japa; out loud, murmuring, and
silently within the mind, meditating on the holy names one after
another. Murmuring is one hundred times better than loudly chanting
japa. Chanting in the mind is one-thousand times better than out
loud."</blockquote
HOWEVER, reading further through the website (which I suggest you do,
too, in order to have a just take on this subject)....
"If silent chanting (manasic-japa) is so incredibly powerful and
beneficial, why do contemporary gurus advise their disciples to chant
softly (upamsu-japa) or loudly (yaikhari-japa)?"
The answer to this question comes from the life and teachings of
Haridasa Thakura, who is the Namacarya for all Gaudiya Vaisnavas. Of the
192 rounds of japa that Thakura Haridasa chanted everyday, it is said he
chanted 64 in the mind, 64 whispering, and 64 loudly. Five hundred years
ago in Navadvipa, the local smarta brahmanas criticized Haridasa Thakura
for chanting japa loudly.
They said: "Haridasa, why must you chant so loudly? The actual
injunction is to chant softly in your mind. Which scripture instructs
you to chant loudly?"
Srila Haridasa humbly replied: "The principle effect of chanting the
name of God loudly is that it purifies the soul one thousand times more
than any other form of worship. Nowhere in the scriptures is loud
chanting of the holy name condemned; on the contrary, there are
excellent benefits that have been described in many places. In one
scripture it says: 'Loud chanting of Lord Krsna's name is a thousand
times better than silent chanting.'"
''Why is the result of loud chanting magnified a thousand times over any
other process?" demanded a dubious brahmana.
Haridasa replied: "O brahmana, please try to understand that when any
living entity, be it man, bird or beast, hears the holy name chanted by
a pure devotee, he goes directly to Vaikuntha after leaving this body.
Srimad Bhdgavatam 10.34.17 says, 'O Acyuta, anyone who chants Your name
purifies all who hear his chanting, as well as himself. One who chants
the holy name to himself liberates himself only, but one who chants the
Lord's name loudly liberates anyone who hears him. The sound of the
Lord's name is beneficial for everyone.'"
Haridasa Thakura continued, 'Therefore, all scriptures assert that loud
chanting of the Lord's name is a thousand times more effective than any
other religious process.
So I take this means mental vibration is best for workings focused on
the self while loud vibration is best for external workings?
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