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High Priestess Maxine Dietrich

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Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@... wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
 
I have Saturn in the 12th house and I did the saturn square 2 weeks ago and have started to feel lonely and isolated. I have Capricorn in the 11th house but I don't think I have experienced negative circumstances with that house. We'll see though :-/




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On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 1:45 AM EDT High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:



Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@... wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
 
I have used the both versions of the Saturn square. With no observable repercussions or recoil.

On the contrary, it actually makes me feel hard-working and being able to endure more.

i believe its due to my astrological configuration.

I have done successful rituals against churches in my area. (followed by aura cleaning) I'm still seeing the signs of it working.

I have also used it stimulate my kundalini and assist with its initial rising. With great results. My sexual drive was immensely increased to where orgasm 7x a day wasn't enough.

At one point i had to stop the mantra bcoz i felt an uncomfortable burning on the sole of my left foot every time i did the mantra. I attribute this to a lack of stretching tho.

HS.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:


I have Saturn in the 12th house and I did the saturn square 2 weeks ago and have started to feel lonely and isolated. I have Capricorn in the 11th house but I don't think I have experienced negative circumstances with that house. We'll see though :-/




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On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 1:45 AM EDT High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:



Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@ wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
 
I personally got the same results as you. And by those results i mean it made me more focused to my meditations and less fooling around, exactly what i needed.

Thank you HP Maxine for that information.
 Hail Satan!

From: Syt R <jri9vero@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:50 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Saturn Square

 
I have used the both versions of the Saturn square. With no observable repercussions or recoil.

On the contrary, it actually makes me feel hard-working and being able to endure more.

i believe its due to my astrological configuration.

I have done successful rituals against churches in my area. (followed by aura cleaning) I'm still seeing the signs of it working.

I have also used it stimulate my kundalini and assist with its initial rising. With great results. My sexual drive was immensely increased to where orgasm 7x a day wasn't enough.

At one point i had to stop the mantra bcoz i felt an uncomfortable burning on the sole of my left foot every time i did the mantra. I attribute this to a lack of stretching tho.

HS.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:


I have Saturn in the 12th house and I did the saturn square 2 weeks ago and have started to feel lonely and isolated. I have Capricorn in the 11th house but I don't think I have experienced negative circumstances with that house. We'll see though :-/




------------------------------
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 1:45 AM EDT High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:



Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@ wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!

 
I've started it every other Saturday for over 2 months, trying to do it as much as I can until it goes into Scorpio. I'm finding it extremely helpful for my GPA and after I vibrate the mantra I feel like a pulsing up to my crown. Like the most boring unfun work that I kind of dreaded doing and procrastinated until I absolutely had to do it, now I can't stop doing it, like I'm drawn to it like a magnet. And I feel great about it, more accomplished, more secure.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:



Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@ wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
 
Hi HPS Maxine,I am three days from finishing my first Saturn Square. I am doing it because I am going through a Saturn transit. Like HoodedCobra said in his other post, "Alone I had a feeling that I shouldn't be really doing this," I felt the same way but kept at it anyways. I think I should have listened to my intuition. I don't know.The square tastes different from the other squares. Not in a friendly way. (Don't know how else to put it. I have synaesthesia.)So far nothing has happened that was negative or positive, that I have noticed. But it could be because my vibration is incredibly high, far past the speed of light. Does this mean, if we exceed the vibration of a planet, that planet will no longer have an effect on us?-Magus

From: High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:45:55 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn Square

 

Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@... wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!

 
Use Uranus. It overcomes Saturns energies when used enough and directed to. In fact one of the reasons Saturn in Aquarius is said to be a fortunate placement despite the fact Saturn rules convention and Aquarius is the most unconventional sign is because in this sign Saturns negative influence in your psyche is minimal.

The Malefics, Mars & Saturn are well placed in signs which energies are contrary to their own, because they temper their negative traits. Mars in Capricorn, Saturn in Aquarius.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:


I have Saturn in the 12th house and I did the saturn square 2 weeks ago and have started to feel lonely and isolated. I have Capricorn in the 11th house but I don't think I have experienced negative circumstances with that house. We'll see though :-/




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On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 1:45 AM EDT High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:



Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@ wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
 
Would it then be possible to use saturnic mantras in black magic? If I remember correctly, you said there where mantras for black magic, but also an "antidote" mantra, so the negative energies wouldn't affect you. Would it be possible to use the mantra for the saturn square and direct it at someone, and then use perhaps the solar square mantra to cancel out the effects in yourself?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:



Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@ wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
 
     The first time I did it about a year ago, I didn't really see any effects at all.  I used it again this year and I saw extremely positive results as I was just entering a bad transit.  With in a day after I finished the Saturn Square I did have a series of problems that popped up daily; but a solution to each of these problems was found with in hours of them popping up at no expense to me either financially or time wise. I say it was extremely positive because the last time I had a bad transit I got screwed, horribly horribly screwed;  which is why I decided to do the Saturn Square + a Satanic Rosary because I did not want that to happen again; and I saw it coming threw astrology.  I will say too though that I've been spending the entire last year empowering my aura, chakras, and 3rd eye/pineal gland. And that the first time I did it I also did it with a Jupiter Square to help with my business online. At that time I saw neither an incline or a decrease in sales.Hail Satan!
 
<td val[/IMG]Ya like I said before I performed it with great success.But maybe that is because at the time I was going through a Saturn transit.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]
From: High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@...;
To: <[email protected];
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn Square
Sent: Fri, Sep 28, 2012 5:45:55 AM

<td val[/IMG]  

Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org
--- [/IMG][email protected], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@... wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- [/IMG][email protected], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
[/TD]
 
My vibration is well past the speed of light at well, but I may have had bad effects from my last Saturn square, or it could have just been ironic timing (I don't really believe in coincidences though). So perhaps other planetary effects were taking place for me during that particular square. I've used it about 8-10 or so times before though, with no *known* bad effects.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:

Hi HPS Maxine,
I am three days from finishing my first Saturn Square. I am doing it because I am going through a Saturn transit. Like HoodedCobra said in his other post, "Alone I had a feeling that I shouldn't be really doing this," I felt the same way but kept at it anyways. I think I should have listened to my intuition. I don't know.
The square tastes different from the other squares. Not in a friendly way. (Don't know how else to put it. I have synaesthesia.)
So far nothing has happened that was negative or positive, that I have noticed. But it could be because my vibration is incredibly high, far past the speed of light. 
Does this mean, if we exceed the vibration of a planet, that planet will no longer have an effect on us?
-Magus



________________________________
From: High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:45:55 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn Square


 


Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@ wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
 
I'm wondering what the correlation is with people that had positive results and negative results. I would guess it has to do with the elements you have in you chart and what you invoke. I'm assuming earth would help with Saturn.
If anyone agrees or disagrees please reply I'm curious.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:



Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@ wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
 
They're not contrary in their exalted or home signs they're more tied into each other. Like Mars in Capricorn don't seem like an odd match, because what kind of Capricorn person doesn't have that martian drive, it's just makes it more stable and lasting.
Saturn in Cancer or Leo would be contrary, since Cancer is nurturing and Leo is fun, Saturn is not like that at all.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "drakedannii" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

Use Uranus. It overcomes Saturns energies when used enough and directed to. In fact one of the reasons Saturn in Aquarius is said to be a fortunate placement despite the fact Saturn rules convention and Aquarius is the most unconventional sign is because in this sign Saturns negative influence in your psyche is minimal.

The Malefics, Mars & Saturn are well placed in signs which energies are contrary to their own, because they temper their negative traits. Mars in Capricorn, Saturn in Aquarius.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


I have Saturn in the 12th house and I did the saturn square 2 weeks ago and have started to feel lonely and isolated. I have Capricorn in the 11th house but I don't think I have experienced negative circumstances with that house. We'll see though :-/




------------------------------
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 1:45 AM EDT High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:



Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@ wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




------------------------------
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
 
..Hail Satan!! I am starting my 3rd in a row today. I have had nothing but positive experiences with this square. I actually meant to only do one, yet after the first time it was as though i was "pushed" to start another. Quite a long while ago, when i did the square, I actually didn't feel anything from it--positive, nor negative. Even doing the vibrations i basically felt 'nothing'. This time, is very different. And I feel and have experienced the positive effects of this saturn square.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:



Demons revealed the correct way to USE those squares, not the specific effects for each one. One must have knowledge of astrology for this, of which I do. The Sanskrit mantras for the planets are traditional and the only deal with this is the different texts with the mantras claim that doing the saturn working will 'offset the negative aspects of saturn.' As for myself and two others, we found this was not true from our own experiences in doing the working. This is why I put up that warning, but I know it came late. The other planets are pretty much self-explanitory in their effects, which are not negative. The Saturn seems to be the odd one out.

Now, as for the other planets outside of Saturn, I know the results have been favorable for many of you, including myself. As for the Saturn working, Lilith told me to take a survey regarding this as NOT EVERYONE EXPERIENCED MISFORTUNE WITH THE SATURN WORKING, but it is something to know and think about, as it can be a possibility. Apparently, it can go either way, for better or for worse.

Lilith also told me, as I asked her regarding the saturn. She did say that if a personal planet is being hit hard by transiting saturn, do the working for that planet to strengthen it.

Please share any experiences here if you have done the Saturn working.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ch_3_coo" <ch_3_coo@ wrote:

It's on the JoS website..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:


Think about what you are saying..why would Satan and the Daemons give us a squatre that could manifest negatively?Think about this. Use your common sense about this. Think of other factors okay. But I know others will agree with me when I say that you are wrong in your 'warning'.




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On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT Light wrote:

WARNING!
ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE MAIN TRADITIONAL TEXTS CONCERNING MANTRAS
[THE MANTRAS HERE ARE STANDARD MANTRAS FOR THE PLANETS], THEY READ THAT
THE SATURN MANTA/WORKING WILL "OFFSET" THE NEGATIVE TENDENCIES OF
SATURN, ESPECIALLY DURING A HARD SATURN TRANSIT. MY OWN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND OF A FEW OTHERS WHO PERFORMED THIS WORKING HAVE FOUND THE OPPOSTITE TO BE TRUE, EVEN WHEN SATURN WAS NOT ACTIVE IN
NEGATIVELY ASPECTING ANY OTHER PLANETS IN THE CHART. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CONNECTED WITH THE HOUSE SATURN TENTATED BEGAN TO
HAPPEN. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST DO THE WORKING BELOW, THEN BE WARNED AND
PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
AS FOR THE OTHER PLANETARY SQUARES, THEY ALL WORKED OUT FINE AND
IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SATURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MALEFIC IN MANY RESPECTS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SATURN ENERGIES CANNOT BE DIRECTED
POSITIVELY. JUST BE WARNED AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE WORKING FOR
SATURN, BE AWARE.


In your astrology chart: The house
Saturn is posited in, along with the houses
that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp. [THE SATURN WORKING WILL
ACTIVATE THESE AREAS OF YOUR LIFE AND THIS MAY NOT BE FORTUNATE!


The Kabalistic/Magickal planetary square working empowers the base chakra.
Saturn when properly directed brings a positive sense of self-discipline, endurance, and organization. Saturn
also can bring success and advancement through hard work, especially in the
career. [AGAIN...BE AWARE. EVEN WHEN DIRECTED WITH AFFIRMATIONS, UNFORTUNATE EVENTS CAN MANIFEST REGARDLESS].


http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html







I was literally Stroke when i read this, knowing that i wanted to empower my chakras through all the squares and solar energy, guessing Saturn is not a good way to empower the base chakra... Guessing maybe i can raise my protection even more with runes and enochian words. Maybe just maybe it could work... What are your thoughts on this guys?


Hail Satan!
 
Hail Satan!!!!
My question is ...I have messed with Saturn energies last year before finding JOS.This means that I had no idea how dangerous Saturn energy can be and I was using it like a reckless idiot which lead to a lot of issues.
Now I am wondering, is it possible to ease these issues and the bring them under control by doing a Saturn square?
There is a warning above the square saying people have had issues working with it. I realize hat it is dangerous as I said before, but....using the right affirmations and visualizations it should not be a problem right?
I would have to wait until next month though, when Sun enters Taurus.
Hail Satan
 
A sun square is what you would want to do. 


On Thursday, March 26, 2015 1:27 PM, "Necromancing Nine necromancing9@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  Hail Satan!!!!
My question is ...I have messed with Saturn energies last year before finding JOS.This means that I had no idea how dangerous Saturn energy can be and I was using it like a reckless idiot which lead to a lot of issues.
Now I am wondering, is it possible to ease these issues and the bring them under control by doing a Saturn square?
There is a warning above the square saying people have had issues working with it. I realize hat it is dangerous as I said before, but....using the right affirmations and visualizations it should not be a problem right?
I would have to wait until next month though, when Sun enters Taurus.
Hail Satan

 
Not by any fucking chance I will ever attempt Saturn Square. I got Saturn in seventh house and capricorn in the sixth. Bad degree and bad signs. My life is worse enough as it is because of that.

I only believe activating this will seriously make more harm than good to me.

But, there is a way to cancel the bad energies of Saturn out? That would be just freaking amazing!

Hail Satan!
 
The sun square.... Hail our Creator God Satan.


On Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:36 PM, "dark_pagan_666@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  Not by any fucking chance I will ever attempt Saturn Square. I got Saturn in seventh house and capricorn in the sixth. Bad degree and bad signs. My life is worse enough as it is because of that.

I only believe activating this will seriously make more harm than good to me.

But, there is a way to cancel the bad energies of Saturn out? That would be just freaking amazing!

Hail Satan!

 
If you want to reverse these there are far less dangerous ways to do that than Saturn square (which no matter the affirmations, you're still taking in negative energy). For example Sun/Jupiter are opposite energies from Saturn and work to reverse its influences.
I had an idea with another member here too about the Saturn Square: That is after using the Saturn mantra immediately vibrating the Suryae mantra a few times to remove any negative energy. In that way any negative energy doesn't really stay in your soul to cause any trouble. But I'm not sure if the energy of the Saturn has any effect or gets completely erased if you do that.
 
Okay thank you so much!

In four years I've never even bothered to look at the squares, shame on me! They are brilliant! It's weird though, I have almost practiced everything else, but not the squares.

I am feeling like a total newbie and normally I would totally understand this...but I got confused, I know...it's easier than I think.

So to my question:

If I understand this, the route or the "calendar" shows the following days and the numbers are the repeated vibration I have to do.

And for the material square, I have to add an affirmation after the vibrating mantra to attain my goal?

And the spiritual I just vibrate the mantra, and don't need any affirmation?

And I can do both spiritual and materialistic squares at same time/period/day by the same Sun square? Or one spiritual Sun and a materialistic Jupiter?

Correct or incorrect?

Sorry. Normally I understand this. I just want to be certain so I don't fuck things up. Thank you guys so much for taking your time!
 
Wow....never mind.. I must have had a concussion or something for not understanding that. Haha.

Now my forehead hurts a little because of the facepalm....

Hail Satan!
 
Doing the sun square for spiritual advancement related to the Sun will help with confidence and help with never having fear correct?
 
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Дана Петак, 27. Март 2015. 22:08, "dark_pagan_666@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] је написао/ла:


  Yeah, I figured.....

Thanks!

 
You can do the ritual anytime... Hail our Creator God Satan.


On Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:03 PM, "tanja matejevic matejevictanja@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  <pre class="y[/IMG]can a little help , I'm new in ovome.da whether ritual commitment works only when the full moon .. I pray for an answer ...</pre>



Дана Петак, 27. Март 2015. 22:08, "dark_pagan_666@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] је написао/ла:


  Yeah, I figured.....

Thanks!



 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

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