Satan and Alcoholics Anonymous

[dectotaku34]

I'm hoping I can find any advice or communicate with others about my issue here. I have been an alcoholic since 16 and been in the program since 17, I have been attending for 3 and 1/2 years. The spiritual side stumped me for awhile until I came across Satanism and how many of the thoughts I've had for years were listed there. I've read Anton LaVey's work and researched online. For those unfamiliar with the AA 12-step program I will give a brief summary. AA is founded on the chiristian religion but deny being a religious program; in my area it's known as the "bible belt" and they say the lords prayer. Their 12-step process includes believing in a power higher than yourself to restore you to sanity: "god". Obviously, this is where my beliefs contradict. I am trying to stay wih the fellowship but all they believe are lies and deny their own self power. The bottom line is whatever keeps one sober, however.

Does anyone else embrace Satan and are members of AA (or any 12-step program)? Or have any advice for me?

This site is beautifully made!

 

[Zildar Raasi78656]

This is a truly horrible program that is nothing but Soul destroying. There are many non-religious/non-xian alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous, my personal advice to you would be to try and get into one of those instead.

This xian shit sets you up for total defeat in the future, and like you said, preaches total dependence on a non-existent entity outside of yourself rather than building you up and giving you control over your own life and own destiny. It is *extremely* unhealthy to your Body, Mind and Soul, this xian crap that they shove down your throat. It breaks you down physically, mentally and Spiritually. I cannot emphasize this enough. What you need is to become independent and to Empower yourself so that you can start living a healthy life in which you are happy and strong. Xianity only ever makes the problem worse, MUCH worse. Through Spiritual Satanism, with Power Meditation, you can heal yourself, rid yourself of your addictions and become a strong and independent person. This is what Father Satan wants for each and every one of us.

Unhealthy addictions such as this are usually the result of depleted or blocked Chakras, especially the Solar Plexus and Heart Chakras. Work on all of your Chakras and build and empower your Aura. Affirm to yourself that you do NOT need alcohol and that you are NOT dependent upon it, or anything else for that matter. You are your own person and can stand on your own two feet and take charge of your own destiny.

There are also Gods who can work with you and offer guidance and assistance in overcoming this problem. http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HELP.html
To overcome is the key-word, NOT to simply admit total defeat and let yourself be broken down even further.

I do not have direct personal experience with your situation, but I have seen others who have come through. Those I know who went through the xian systems came out even worse than before and were emotionally destroyed. Most of them ended up relapsing into drug and alcohol abuse anyway and were severely depressed. Xianity is fake through and through, so it can never offer any lasting support. I have seen Brothers and Sisters who have totally overcome their addictions without this xian drivel, and with the Knowledge and help of Father Satan and the Gods.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ONIAL.html

I am sure that other members here will be able to help you further. I think there have been posts about this in the past.

Hail Father Satan!!
Hail Baal Zebul!!




-High Priestess Zildar Raasi


http://www.templeofzeus.org

Joy of Satan Ministries

--- In , "dectotaku34" <dectotaku34@... wrote:

I'm hoping I can find any advice or communicate with others about my issue here. I have been an alcoholic since 16 and been in the program since 17, I have been attending for 3 and 1/2 years. The spiritual side stumped me for awhile until I came across Satanism and how many of the thoughts I've had for years were listed there. I've read Anton LaVey's work and researched online. For those unfamiliar with the AA 12-step program I will give a brief summary. AA is founded on the chiristian religion but deny being a religious program; in my area it's known as the "bible belt" and they say the lords prayer. Their 12-step process includes believing in a power higher than yourself to restore you to sanity: "god". Obviously, this is where my beliefs contradict. I am trying to stay wih the fellowship but all they believe are lies and deny their own self power. The bottom line is whatever keeps one sober, however.

Does anyone else embrace Satan and are members of AA (or any 12-step program)? Or have any advice for me?

This site is beautifully made!

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

Power hypnosis,yellow energy is of detachment,get settled to a trance state,breathe in yellow energy,n affirm"im free as the wind,im free from my addiction in a safe and happy way(it helps if u can visualise a sense of relieve n feeling happy n whole/content on urself),my mind,body,soul n emotion are free from alcoholism",i found it best to simply breathe in the colour energy to get the 'feel' for it before programming it.

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:14 PDT High Priestess Zildar Raasi wrote:



This is a truly horrible program that is nothing but Soul destroying. There are many non-religious/non-xian alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous, my personal advice to you would be to try and get into one of those instead.

This xian shit sets you up for total defeat in the future, and like you said, preaches total dependence on a non-existent entity outside of yourself rather than building you up and giving you control over your own life and own destiny. It is *extremely* unhealthy to your Body, Mind and Soul, this xian crap that they shove down your throat. It breaks you down physically, mentally and Spiritually. I cannot emphasize this enough. What you need is to become independent and to Empower yourself so that you can start living a healthy life in which you are happy and strong. Xianity only ever makes the problem worse, MUCH worse. Through Spiritual Satanism, with Power Meditation, you can heal yourself, rid yourself of your addictions and become a strong and independent person. This is what Father Satan wants for each and every one of us.

Unhealthy addictions such as this are usually the result of depleted or blocked Chakras, especially the Solar Plexus and Heart Chakras. Work on all of your Chakras and build and empower your Aura. Affirm to yourself that you do NOT need alcohol and that you are NOT dependent upon it, or anything else for that matter. You are your own person and can stand on your own two feet and take charge of your own destiny.

There are also Gods who can work with you and offer guidance and assistance in overcoming this problem. http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HELP.html
To overcome is the key-word, NOT to simply admit total defeat and let yourself be broken down even further.

I do not have direct personal experience with your situation, but I have seen others who have come through. Those I know who went through the xian systems came out even worse than before and were emotionally destroyed. Most of them ended up relapsing into drug and alcohol abuse anyway and were severely depressed. Xianity is fake through and through, so it can never offer any lasting support. I have seen Brothers and Sisters who have totally overcome their addictions without this xian drivel, and with the Knowledge and help of Father Satan and the Gods.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ONIAL.html

I am sure that other members here will be able to help you further. I think there have been posts about this in the past.

Hail Father Satan!!
Hail Baal Zebul!!




-High Priestess Zildar Raasi


http://www.templeofzeus.org

Joy of Satan Ministries

--- In , "dectotaku34" <dectotaku34@... wrote:

I'm hoping I can find any advice or communicate with others about my issue here. I have been an alcoholic since 16 and been in the program since 17, I have been attending for 3 and 1/2 years. The spiritual side stumped me for awhile until I came across Satanism and how many of the thoughts I've had for years were listed there. I've read Anton LaVey's work and researched online. For those unfamiliar with the AA 12-step program I will give a brief summary. AA is founded on the chiristian religion but deny being a religious program; in my area it's known as the "bible belt" and they say the lords prayer. Their 12-step process includes believing in a power higher than yourself to restore you to sanity: "god". Obviously, this is where my beliefs contradict. I am trying to stay wih the fellowship but all they believe are lies and deny their own self power. The bottom line is whatever keeps one sober, however.

Does anyone else embrace Satan and are members of AA (or any 12-step program)? Or have any advice for me?

This site is beautifully made!

 

[beelzebub2114]

I used to drink a pint of whiskey to myself every night when I was 14, and I quit on my own. You don't need a bunch of jackasses telling you how to live your life, you can do it with your own personal strength.

Hail Satan!!

--- In , "dectotaku34" <dectotaku34@... wrote:

I'm hoping I can find any advice or communicate with others about my issue here. I have been an alcoholic since 16 and been in the program since 17, I have been attending for 3 and 1/2 years. The spiritual side stumped me for awhile until I came across Satanism and how many of the thoughts I've had for years were listed there. I've read Anton LaVey's work and researched online. For those unfamiliar with the AA 12-step program I will give a brief summary. AA is founded on the chiristian religion but deny being a religious program; in my area it's known as the "bible belt" and they say the lords prayer. Their 12-step process includes believing in a power higher than yourself to restore you to sanity: "god". Obviously, this is where my beliefs contradict. I am trying to stay wih the fellowship but all they believe are lies and deny their own self power. The bottom line is whatever keeps one sober, however.

Does anyone else embrace Satan and are members of AA (or any 12-step program)? Or have any advice for me?

This site is beautifully made!

 

[Way_Seeker6661]

It's sick and it's bullshit. I used to drink a bottle of vodka a day, along with at least 3 grams of coke and whatever drugs were going around. I went to AA and NA for a while but left it in the dust. I couldn't tolerate the helplessness they preach. It is extremely xtian and like High Priestess Zildaar said it is soul-destroying. They make you believe you will always be just barely hanging on with their 'daily reprieve' when in Truth you CAN be TOTALLY FREE from addiction. Fuck those morons. Hail Satan!!

 

[Indigo Nation]

I hope what I am saying can help you I was in alcoholics anonymous for awhile while I cannot deny that I did have a problem with alcohol because I was drinking and drinking till I passed out, all day pretty much for almost a year and got to the point I was willing to rob or hustle people if I didn't have money anything for at least a beer if not preferably something a little stronger, actually part of this was living around a ghetto area where people didn't give a fuck about anything except getting high in some way, alcohol, weed, crack, heroine, speed, meth, pills, ecstasy, fuck it all existed any drug you can name was easily available if you knew the right people and if they didn't have it they would find someone who did so usually within a few hours or at least by the end of the day you would have it, lucky me for just sticking to alcohol, (scared of the other shit) alcoholics anonymous while not that xtian (I don't live in the bible belt or the area I was in anymore) isn't helpful for the reason that you state and constantly hear I am an alcoholic why do you want to program yourself to think like that, I could enjoy a beer today and not feel a need for another one ever maybe want though, the problem is the environment mainly in my case people constantly pressuring me to drink, buying it for me, wanting to "enjoy" it with me, fuck after awhile its no fun to be honest the only redeeming quality is the feeling of unity, and closeness it provided and safety, etc
Also try to find something thats not based on the "god" concept if you feel you still need a support group after what is said by me and others on here, for me it seemed more new ageish than xtian they would talk about meditation and vibes, psychic stuff etc sometimes, and yeah the lords prayer is standard regardless of locality at the end as far as I know, they said you didn't have to believe in "god" or anything else but the point was to surrender yourself to something or someone (what fucking bad advice lol I think maybe they could have just come out and say it your god could be alcohol or the drug that you wanted off of I am sure some of the people there were thinking that and really were just there to find hook ups for drugs (dealers hung out there in the building from what I heard and I personally know of someone who used the alcoholics anonymous "Alano club" place to get a hook up for some drugs when they really wanted them but couldn't find anyone who had exactly what they wanted) the goal is to become independent of your addiction) much of addiction is in the way of thinking about it, your influence, spiritual health etc, I can say depleted 3rd chakra and heart chakra are a big cause, so meditate and empower those chakras, work on building up your aura, and sealing all the holes, I was a Satanist at the time this was going on now Satan was very helpful he sent some people into my life that were a direct help in getting me out of being addicted to alcohol, the big challenge and whether you do this or not is totally optional (I am not pushing anything just saying something that helped me) I did is do all this programming to yourself, meditation, yoga is good too, talking to people who are understanding if possible, Now the challenge I propose and this is a strength test I did it for this purpose is have a few drinks once you feel confident and notice how you do not want or need it afterwards be careful here make sure you are fully out of the addiction mindset and spiritually healed first, THEN you will KNOW you are no longer an alcoholic (really really bad thinking another Satanist even confirmed this to me that addiction is a thought process along with spiritual depletion as well) and it wont be in your mind anymore and you can be totally free, whether you choose to ever drink again or not after that is up to you spiritual Satanism is about freedom but alcohol is not spiritually helpful (though not really very harmful in moderate amounts on an occasional basis either) just an idea someone gave me, and yes it did help. It will basically shatter once and for all the idea that you are dependent on alcohol. The idea of Spiritual Satanism is freedom and independence not dependence on alcohol or anything else. The gods guide us and want us to be free and become as they are eventually achieving godhood, sitting around dependent on any substance doesn't at all help this goal. Yellow energy programmed is very helpful btw also energy from the sun is too.
Hail Satan

--- In , "beelzebub2114" <beelzebub2114@... wrote:

I used to drink a pint of whiskey to myself every night when I was 14, and I quit on my own. You don't need a bunch of jackasses telling you how to live your life, you can do it with your own personal strength.

Hail Satan!!

--- In , "dectotaku34" <dectotaku34@ wrote:

I'm hoping I can find any advice or communicate with others about my issue here. I have been an alcoholic since 16 and been in the program since 17, I have been attending for 3 and 1/2 years. The spiritual side stumped me for awhile until I came across Satanism and how many of the thoughts I've had for years were listed there. I've read Anton LaVey's work and researched online. For those unfamiliar with the AA 12-step program I will give a brief summary. AA is founded on the chiristian religion but deny being a religious program; in my area it's known as the "bible belt" and they say the lords prayer. Their 12-step process includes believing in a power higher than yourself to restore you to sanity: "god". Obviously, this is where my beliefs contradict. I am trying to stay wih the fellowship but all they believe are lies and deny their own self power. The bottom line is whatever keeps one sober, however.

Does anyone else embrace Satan and are members of AA (or any 12-step program)? Or have any advice for me?

This site is beautifully made!

 

[Allyson Ford]

Thank you all for the replies I found guidance in each one. Ive been through many addictions that took me down. I could never grasp giving myself up. I've found self-will and control is what brings me my sobriety. As for the idea of a strength test, I did something like that earlier this month with alcohol had some drinks and was responsible about it. Satan shows me I cannot be afraid of alcohol or any other drug. I know what it's like to have no self will so now I can embrace my self will. I'm embracing control on my life and couldn't imagine giving it up. Satan is bringing me on a journey now. I still got a some decisions to make. Once again I appreciate all the advice. Hail Satan!! 

-Allyson

On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:21 AM, "Indigo Nation" <gutterrainbow@... wrote:

  I hope what I am saying can help you I was in alcoholics anonymous for awhile while I cannot deny that I did have a problem with alcohol because I was drinking and drinking till I passed out, all day pretty much for almost a year and got to the point I was willing to rob or hustle people if I didn't have money anything for at least a beer if not preferably something a little stronger, actually part of this was living around a ghetto area where people didn't give a fuck about anything except getting high in some way, alcohol, weed, crack, heroine, speed, meth, pills, ecstasy, fuck it all existed any drug you can name was easily available if you knew the right people and if they didn't have it they would find someone who did so usually within a few hours or at least by the end of the day you would have it, lucky me for just sticking to alcohol, (scared of the other shit) alcoholics anonymous while not that xtian (I don't live in the bible belt or the area I was in anymore) isn't helpful for the reason that you state and constantly hear I am an alcoholic why do you want to program yourself to think like that, I could enjoy a beer today and not feel a need for another one ever maybe want though, the problem is the environment mainly in my case people constantly pressuring me to drink, buying it for me, wanting to "enjoy" it with me, fuck after awhile its no fun to be honest the only redeeming quality is the feeling of unity, and closeness it provided and safety, etc
Also try to find something thats not based on the "god" concept if you feel you still need a support group after what is said by me and others on here, for me it seemed more new ageish than xtian they would talk about meditation and vibes, psychic stuff etc sometimes, and yeah the lords prayer is standard regardless of locality at the end as far as I know, they said you didn't have to believe in "god" or anything else but the point was to surrender yourself to something or someone (what fucking bad advice lol I think maybe they could have just come out and say it your god could be alcohol or the drug that you wanted off of I am sure some of the people there were thinking that and really were just there to find hook ups for drugs (dealers hung out there in the building from what I heard and I personally know of someone who used the alcoholics anonymous "Alano club" place to get a hook up for some drugs when they really wanted them but couldn't find anyone who had exactly what they wanted) the goal is to become independent of your addiction) much of addiction is in the way of thinking about it, your influence, spiritual health etc, I can say depleted 3rd chakra and heart chakra are a big cause, so meditate and empower those chakras, work on building up your aura, and sealing all the holes, I was a Satanist at the time this was going on now Satan was very helpful he sent some people into my life that were a direct help in getting me out of being addicted to alcohol, the big challenge and whether you do this or not is totally optional (I am not pushing anything just saying something that helped me) I did is do all this programming to yourself, meditation, yoga is good too, talking to people who are understanding if possible, Now the challenge I propose and this is a strength test I did it for this purpose is have a few drinks once you feel confident and notice how you do not want or need it afterwards be careful here make sure you are fully out of the addiction mindset and spiritually healed first, THEN you will KNOW you are no longer an alcoholic (really really bad thinking another Satanist even confirmed this to me that addiction is a thought process along with spiritual depletion as well) and it wont be in your mind anymore and you can be totally free, whether you choose to ever drink again or not after that is up to you spiritual Satanism is about freedom but alcohol is not spiritually helpful (though not really very harmful in moderate amounts on an occasional basis either) just an idea someone gave me, and yes it did help. It will basically shatter once and for all the idea that you are dependent on alcohol. The idea of Spiritual Satanism is freedom and independence not dependence on alcohol or anything else. The gods guide us and want us to be free and become as they are eventually achieving godhood, sitting around dependent on any substance doesn't at all help this goal. Yellow energy programmed is very helpful btw also energy from the sun is too.
Hail Satan

--- [/IMG][/email][/url], "beelzebub2114" <beelzebub2114@... wrote:

I used to drink a pint of whiskey to myself every night when I was 14, and I quit on my own. You don't need a bunch of jackasses telling you how to live your life, you can do it with your own personal strength.

Hail Satan!!

--- [/IMG][/email][/url], "dectotaku34" <dectotaku34@ wrote:

I'm hoping I can find any advice or communicate with others about my issue here. I have been an alcoholic since 16 and been in the program since 17, I have been attending for 3 and 1/2 years. The spiritual side stumped me for awhile until I came across Satanism and how many of the thoughts I've had for years were listed there. I've read Anton LaVey's work and researched online. For those unfamiliar with the AA 12-step program I will give a brief summary. AA is founded on the chiristian religion but deny being a religious program; in my area it's known as the "bible belt" and they say the lords prayer. Their 12-step process includes believing in a power higher than yourself to restore you to sanity: "god". Obviously, this is where my beliefs contradict. I am trying to stay wih the fellowship but all they believe are lies and deny their own self power. The bottom line is whatever keeps one sober, however.

Does anyone else embrace Satan and are members of AA (or any 12-step program)? Or have any advice for me?

This site is beautifully made!