Same sex marriage

[MageSurpent666]

LOL

it is not, the promiscuity, which has in scientific literature the ghetto term MSM (Men who have Sex with Men) tends to bring higher rates of STDs
This is only of the few problems, for the rest it's just sex nothing else.

Unions are not acts of Lust but through understanding of each other mate and the only reason for not understanding is the blindness of the Yehober.Hail Zeus Hail Baal Hail Agares

 

[luis]

The info from the video doesn't "discount" whatever irrelevant sexual tendencies a part of the population had in ancient times, it provides historical accounts of society at the time, including from Theophoric personalities like Plato; and also because those things:
*Don't matter on a spiritual level - and more often than not either for celibacy or over-sexuality these are used as excuses of pseudo-spirituality and lying about history.
*Don't have any measure in how "abrahamic" someone is. Re-read the Ethics session.



So, emotional triggers and not objective judgement - speaking as someone who was also a believer of the inflated claims about sexuality in ancient times propagated by the demoted HPs:

Διπλῆ Ἄγνοια: Double Ignorance of Proclus - When One Is Ignorant of the Fact That One Is Ignorant

Διπλῆ Ἄγνοια Double Ignorance author: High Priest Zevios Metathronos When One Is Ignorant of the Fact That One Is Ignorant. The Gateway to Zevism: Proclus on the First Prison of the Soul, the Andrapod and the Seeker, and the Sting That Sets Free. Most people who hear about Zevism, theurgy...

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"Mockery is the social tool by which the system polices its members. Laugh at the questioner and you’ve neutralized the question without ever needing to answer it. The Andrapod often laughs first and thinks never."

So what is your own opinion on homosexuality? The sexual etichs are clear. I can belive that homosexuality in history has been inflated especially Greeks but at the end of the day what matter to me is how does TOZ views these things?

To me it makes sense that transgenderism is a illness of the mind that needs to be healed. If you are born in a way it does not makes sense you want to be something else. You can do it but its not healthy for the mind. This is my take on it and I thing most would agree, in any case here we do accept people that are transgenders but meditations and healing exist on TOZ to heal this thing.

What about homosexuality? As a gay men (lately found out I'm bisexual actually after a round of Advanced Purifications but I never had a sexual experience with a women) I can see It's not something I can easily change, I'm attracted to other guys and to the sexual practices you do with a guy. But I wonder, is it okay? Natural? Like a fetish? Or it's totally okay for me to be gay and live my life with a guy? I'm asking myself these questions lately, I know it's a huge topic and I know our Sexual Etichs but I wish @High Priest Zevios Metathronos would talk about it, sexuality is a HUGE part of our existence and I don't want to wake up one day and thing I made the wrong "choises".

I'm very open to discuss this, we are all here to advance.

 

[Nikólaos666]

You mean other people trying to discount that homosexuality also occurred in history because they think it's gross? It maybe wasn't direct but it was enough to see. Like I said it's not the first time that I've noticed these sentiments. I know the ethics in the Temple of Zeus and the Gods themselves have no issues with homosexuality. I should hope this wouldn't change anyway, yet many things already have. Honestly for the past year and a half or so, there are many things that have made me wince hence my life of participation in the forums as a whole. I can still attempt to commune with the Gods and focus on my own evolution without having a group of people to do so. I've been alone for most of my life anyway and I'm used to it, and it's probably for the better.

Many times, you have came on the live platform while you were having some troubles with your girlfriend and everyone were kind, supportive and respectful with you. Yes, there are people that have a different opinion about homosexuality. I don’t see much messages here about those people.


And for the alone part, this is only on your own decision. Nobody rejected you anywhere.

 

[Asra]

Did I miss an update? Weren't all 3 sexual orientations normal traits the soul keeps throughout lifetimes?

This critical commentary on the way some people have intercourse is very disrespectful to our Brothers and Sisters of this nature. This shouldn't be of anyone's concern and it's unbelievable to me that it's being used as an argument. It's not valid, because during heterosexual sex too, even when both partners are healthy, unpleasant biological effects can occur (vaginal irritation and microtears, temporary swelling, spotting, pelvic cramps, etc). By these people's logic, heterosexual sex isn't healthy either, and all forms of intercourse are gross.

I can still attempt to commune with the Gods and focus on my own evolution without having a group of people to do so. I've been alone for most of my life anyway and I'm used to it, and it's probably for the better.

Hello. Don't let yourself be pushed into decisions about the Temple by people who don't speak for the Temple.

 

[Henu the Great]

So what is your own opinion on homosexuality? The sexual etichs are clear. I can belive that homosexuality in history has been inflated especially Greeks but at the end of the day what matter to me is how does TOZ views these things?

To me it makes sense that transgenderism is a illness of the mind that needs to be healed. If you are born in a way it does not makes sense you want to be something else. You can do it but its not healthy for the mind. This is my take on it and I thing most would agree, in any case here we do accept people that are transgenders but meditations and healing exist on TOZ to heal this thing.

What about homosexuality? As a gay men (lately found out I'm bisexual actually after a round of Advanced Purifications but I never had a sexual experience with a women) I can see It's not something I can easily change, I'm attracted to other guys and to the sexual practices you do with a guy. But I wonder, is it okay? Natural? Like a fetish? Or it's totally okay for me to be gay and live my life with a guy? I'm asking myself these questions lately, I know it's a huge topic and I know our Sexual Etichs but I wish @High Priest Zevios Metathronos would talk about it, sexuality is a HUGE part of our existence and I don't want to wake up one day and thing I made the wrong "choises".

I'm very open to discuss this, we are all here to advance.

It has been said and written so many times already. Why do you seek confirmation or validation when this is already laid out? You can live your life anyway.

 

[luis]

Many times, you have came on the live platform while you were having some troubles with your girlfriend and everyone were kind, supportive and respectful with you. Yes, there are people that have a different opinion about homosexuality. I don’t see much messages here about those people.


And for the alone part, this is only on your own decision. Nobody rejected you anywhere.

Sexuality is HUGE part of someones life. Having problems with it of any kinds, can make you unable to advance spiritually. So since its so important we as a community should refrain to make negative statements. We have our sexual etichs that says it's okay to engage in any sexual activity between consenting adults, we only deny pedofilia, bestiality and so on.

If we as a Spiritual religion belive homosexuality is something that needs to be healed then @High Priest Zevios Metathronos should make a statement about it, like it was said about transgenderism. Again sexuality is a huge part of somones life and we should know whats best to do.

 

[luis]

It has been said and written so many times already. Why do you seek confirmation or validation when this is already laid out? You can live your life anyway.

Its true but I wonder after a cicle of Advanced purifications, my sexuality changed and I wonder is it because being hetero is the natural state or what. The statments on TOZ is very short, does not go in many details about why do Homosexuals and Bisexuals exist and how they should live their lifes, and I would like to know more. It would help me a lot understand if I'm living my life the best I can.

 

[Nikólaos666]

Sexuality is HUGE part of someones life. Having problems with it of any kinds, can make you unable to advance spiritually. So since its so important we as a community should refrain to make negative statements. We have our sexual etichs that says it's okay to engage in any sexual activity between consenting adults, we only deny pedofilia, bestiality and so on.

Where did I wrote something "bad" about sexuality in my post?

 

[Henu the Great]

Its true but I wonder after a cicle of Advanced purifications, my sexuality changed and I wonder is it because being hetero is the natural state or what. The statments on TOZ is very short, does not go in many details about why do Homosexuals and Bisexuals exist and how they should live their lifes, and I would like to know more. It would help me a lot understand if I'm living my life the best I can.

Did it change, or did your perspective of it change? In any case, whatever happens, happens. Take it as it comes.

One lives life as they best see fit, and adjust as they learn more. I find it appalling to seek mechanical methods for something as simple as existing when certain labels are concerned.

 

[luis]

Where did I wrote something "bad" about sexuality in my post?

Sorry I did not mean to reply to you. It was a general statement.

 

[luis]

Did it change, or did your perspective of it change? In any case, whatever happens, happens. Take it as it comes.

One lives life as they best see fit, and adjust as they learn more. I find it appalling to seek mechanical methods for something as simple as existing when certain labels are concerned.

I actually found out I'm bisexual. I like womens now. I dont know how to explain it. And honestly I don't know how to live my life now. I like both for different things but I can't have a relationship we both at the same time obviously, or at least in this society it's not something that it's accpeted and honestly I don't even know if it's the right thing to do. I like men a lot I don't like the idea to not have sex with a men anymore but at the same time womens have things men don't and obviously you can't have a family with a men.

The TOZ does gives life advices too lately, what type of partner to have for procreation and things like this but there is nothing about homosexuality and bisexuality, so I would like to know more.