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hailazazel

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If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
<td val[/IMG]Just a reminder as I have said it before, I have nothing retrograde in my chart except for the dragon's head & tail. Which makes me a minority. So I can't speak from any experience in this area natally.

David


--- On Thu, 6/13/13, hailazazel <hailazazel@... wrote:
From: hailazazel <hailazazel@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Retrograde Planets
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013, 6:53 AM

  If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
[/TD]
 
Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@... wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
<td val[/IMG]Check 3rd house issues.

David


--- On Thu, 6/13/13, f.follets <f.follets@... wrote:
From: f.follets <f.follets@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: Retrograde Planets
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013, 11:39 AM

  Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@... wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
[/TD]
 
Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@... wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
Than it must be something else. Thank you

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
I don't know if this would give you answers... but since you've asked about retrograde planets... first of all take a look at this page

[keep in mind that this is not related to JoS, so read with caution. There are some bullshit... but the meaning is good to my understanding]

http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astro ... sson5.html

...............

I also agree with the others that replied... it's probably related with your 3rd house planets..

...............

Another possibility you can consider... is intercepted signs.

If you have Gemini/Sagittarius intercepted... in my opinion... this could explain your difficulty to express this data gathering and data analyzing part of yourself.

This could explain what is hindering you in learning

Take a look at this page, to learn about intercepted signs if you don't know about it
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Intercepted_signs.htm


Hope this helps...

Hail Satan
Hail Azazel


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@... wrote:

Than it must be something else. Thank you

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
Okay I'm fairly sure that the whole learning, thinking process, manual dexterity and anything related to the 3rd house is having problems in my chart. I didn't drop it and I kept learning my chart and search for bad degrees and other problems but couldn't find the cause. Which lead me to Mars and Mercury again.

Something I didn't mention is my Aquarius and Leo signs being intercepted. Meaning the 3rd house and the 9th house are intercepted. I totally overlooked it as I thought it cannot be the cause, but I don't know where to look anymore.

My thinking process is flawed, this is for sure. I need to read your posts and others like 3 times to begin to understand. Early school was a pain in the ass. Also I have noticed changes in my quickness and general manual dexterity. Some days I was quick and alert regarding my hands and some other days I sucked. This imbalance implies even more there are problems. But where? I personally do not think it is the Intercepted sign but maybe you know different.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Intercepted_signs.htm
 
From: hailazazel <hailazazel@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 7:54 AM
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: Retrograde Planets

  Okay I'm fairly sure that the whole learning, thinking process, manual dexterity and anything related to the 3rd house is having problems in my chart. I didn't drop it and I kept learning my chart and search for bad degrees and other problems but couldn't find the cause. Which lead me to Mars and Mercury again.

Something I didn't mention is my Aquarius and Leo signs being intercepted. Meaning the 3rd house and the 9th house are intercepted. I totally overlooked it as I thought it cannot be the cause, but I don't know where to look anymore.

My thinking process is flawed, this is for sure. I need to read your posts and others like 3 times to begin to understand. Early school was a pain in the ass. Also I have noticed changes in my quickness and general manual dexterity. Some days I was quick and alert regarding my hands and some other days I sucked. This imbalance implies even more there are problems. But where? I personally do not think it is the Intercepted sign but maybe you know different.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

 
Yeah I have read that page. Not informative at all, sadly.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], m_18 <magus_18@... wrote:

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Intercepted_signs.htm

 


________________________________
From: hailazazel <hailazazel@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 7:54 AM
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: Retrograde Planets



 
Okay I'm fairly sure that the whole learning, thinking process, manual dexterity and anything related to the 3rd house is having problems in my chart. I didn't drop it and I kept learning my chart and search for bad degrees and other problems but couldn't find the cause. Which lead me to Mars and Mercury again.

Something I didn't mention is my Aquarius and Leo signs being intercepted. Meaning the 3rd house and the 9th house are intercepted. I totally overlooked it as I thought it cannot be the cause, but I don't know where to look anymore.

My thinking process is flawed, this is for sure. I need to read your posts and others like 3 times to begin to understand. Early school was a pain in the ass. Also I have noticed changes in my quickness and general manual dexterity. Some days I was quick and alert regarding my hands and some other days I sucked. This imbalance implies even more there are problems. But where? I personally do not think it is the Intercepted sign but maybe you know different.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
Well, everything indicates it is. Not only the signs are intercepted, but Mercury as well, since it's in Aquarius. Mercury is exalted in Aquarius, but it is known to cause disruptive thought patterns and early schooling situations. Traditional learning processes usually don't work in this case.

With these signs intercepted it means that Capricorn co-rules your 3rd house, and that may cause problems, since it's ruled by Saturn. Count in the placement of Saturn, any aspects between Uranus and Mercury, and you may find out more details about the issue.

That's all definitely related to the problem, but I myself would never guess it could cause so much trouble. You write exceptionally well for someone with trouble learning and processing information.

If I remember well, you have Saturn in Pisces like me, so you must be around my age. We are very young, so if you feel this will cause serious trouble in your plans for the future, it's extremely important that you understand what is happening right now, so that you can work on it. I'm sure your problem can be solved if you work on it, either with meditation/re-writing your thought processes and/or persistently training to get better.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@... wrote:

Okay I'm fairly sure that the whole learning, thinking process, manual dexterity and anything related to the 3rd house is having problems in my chart. I didn't drop it and I kept learning my chart and search for bad degrees and other problems but couldn't find the cause. Which lead me to Mars and Mercury again.

Something I didn't mention is my Aquarius and Leo signs being intercepted. Meaning the 3rd house and the 9th house are intercepted. I totally overlooked it as I thought it cannot be the cause, but I don't know where to look anymore.

My thinking process is flawed, this is for sure. I need to read your posts and others like 3 times to begin to understand. Early school was a pain in the ass. Also I have noticed changes in my quickness and general manual dexterity. Some days I was quick and alert regarding my hands and some other days I sucked. This imbalance implies even more there are problems. But where? I personally do not think it is the Intercepted sign but maybe you know different.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
This post was very helpful. I'm getting closer!

If Capricorn co-rules my 3rd house does it mean Pisces co-rules my 3rd house too? Or is it just the beginning of the cusp?

No revealing aspect between Uranus and Mercury.

I may write well, but my learning process is extremely poor. Trust me when I say this. I did'nt know this since a while ago. You know, it's like seeing bad, you don't really know you see bad untill you comparison with others. I would do void meditation but thoughts didn't come up in my mind. I simply could not concentrate for more than 5 seconds without losing it. When I think of it, I do not think. At all. My brain is pretty much dead.

Indeed I have Saturn in Pisces, within the 4th house. I put alot of emphasis on Saturn since I have 3 planets in Capricorn (they conjunct each other, called Stellium I think) and Mars exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo (which you already know about).
I even have Saturn quite prominent, conjunct the 4th house cusp.

I thought about doing Mercury Square, but now I'm thinking of doing Saturn's. What is your opinion?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

Well, everything indicates it is. Not only the signs are intercepted, but Mercury as well, since it's in Aquarius. Mercury is exalted in Aquarius, but it is known to cause disruptive thought patterns and early schooling situations. Traditional learning processes usually don't work in this case.

With these signs intercepted it means that Capricorn co-rules your 3rd house, and that may cause problems, since it's ruled by Saturn. Count in the placement of Saturn, any aspects between Uranus and Mercury, and you may find out more details about the issue.

That's all definitely related to the problem, but I myself would never guess it could cause so much trouble. You write exceptionally well for someone with trouble learning and processing information.

If I remember well, you have Saturn in Pisces like me, so you must be around my age. We are very young, so if you feel this will cause serious trouble in your plans for the future, it's extremely important that you understand what is happening right now, so that you can work on it. I'm sure your problem can be solved if you work on it, either with meditation/re-writing your thought processes and/or persistently training to get better.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Okay I'm fairly sure that the whole learning, thinking process, manual dexterity and anything related to the 3rd house is having problems in my chart. I didn't drop it and I kept learning my chart and search for bad degrees and other problems but couldn't find the cause. Which lead me to Mars and Mercury again.

Something I didn't mention is my Aquarius and Leo signs being intercepted. Meaning the 3rd house and the 9th house are intercepted. I totally overlooked it as I thought it cannot be the cause, but I don't know where to look anymore.

My thinking process is flawed, this is for sure. I need to read your posts and others like 3 times to begin to understand. Early school was a pain in the ass. Also I have noticed changes in my quickness and general manual dexterity. Some days I was quick and alert regarding my hands and some other days I sucked. This imbalance implies even more there are problems. But where? I personally do not think it is the Intercepted sign but maybe you know different.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
Pisces rules your 4th house, only Capricorn and Aquarius have influence over your 3rd house. Saturn is strong in your chart, and in Pisces it weakens your 3rd house, so that's definitely a big part of the problem.

If Saturn squares your ascendant, then the case is pretty much solved.

I don't know much about meditations to counteract this, but I guess the Mercury square would do more for you, as Saturn's square can actually make things worse. If Saturn is already so prominent, I wouldn't mess with that square, at least not for now.

The Mercury square is huge, though. A better and probably longer lasting solution would be meditating directly on the chakras, especially the throat and the base. If you're feeling "empty" and/or lethargic, empowering the solar chakra may help a lot as it provides much energy to the entire system. When you get consistent results, you can do the Mercury square for a definitive change.

Just my thoughts, though, as I'm really inexperienced with meditation.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@... wrote:

This post was very helpful. I'm getting closer!

If Capricorn co-rules my 3rd house does it mean Pisces co-rules my 3rd house too? Or is it just the beginning of the cusp?

No revealing aspect between Uranus and Mercury.

I may write well, but my learning process is extremely poor. Trust me when I say this. I did'nt know this since a while ago. You know, it's like seeing bad, you don't really know you see bad untill you comparison with others. I would do void meditation but thoughts didn't come up in my mind. I simply could not concentrate for more than 5 seconds without losing it. When I think of it, I do not think. At all. My brain is pretty much dead.

Indeed I have Saturn in Pisces, within the 4th house. I put alot of emphasis on Saturn since I have 3 planets in Capricorn (they conjunct each other, called Stellium I think) and Mars exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo (which you already know about).
I even have Saturn quite prominent, conjunct the 4th house cusp.

I thought about doing Mercury Square, but now I'm thinking of doing Saturn's. What is your opinion?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Well, everything indicates it is. Not only the signs are intercepted, but Mercury as well, since it's in Aquarius. Mercury is exalted in Aquarius, but it is known to cause disruptive thought patterns and early schooling situations. Traditional learning processes usually don't work in this case.

With these signs intercepted it means that Capricorn co-rules your 3rd house, and that may cause problems, since it's ruled by Saturn. Count in the placement of Saturn, any aspects between Uranus and Mercury, and you may find out more details about the issue.

That's all definitely related to the problem, but I myself would never guess it could cause so much trouble. You write exceptionally well for someone with trouble learning and processing information.

If I remember well, you have Saturn in Pisces like me, so you must be around my age. We are very young, so if you feel this will cause serious trouble in your plans for the future, it's extremely important that you understand what is happening right now, so that you can work on it. I'm sure your problem can be solved if you work on it, either with meditation/re-writing your thought processes and/or persistently training to get better.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Okay I'm fairly sure that the whole learning, thinking process, manual dexterity and anything related to the 3rd house is having problems in my chart. I didn't drop it and I kept learning my chart and search for bad degrees and other problems but couldn't find the cause. Which lead me to Mars and Mercury again.

Something I didn't mention is my Aquarius and Leo signs being intercepted. Meaning the 3rd house and the 9th house are intercepted. I totally overlooked it as I thought it cannot be the cause, but I don't know where to look anymore.

My thinking process is flawed, this is for sure. I need to read your posts and others like 3 times to begin to understand. Early school was a pain in the ass. Also I have noticed changes in my quickness and general manual dexterity. Some days I was quick and alert regarding my hands and some other days I sucked. This imbalance implies even more there are problems. But where? I personally do not think it is the Intercepted sign but maybe you know different.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 

From: f.follets <f.follets@...;
To: <[email protected];
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: Retrograde Planets
Sent: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 2:51:00 AM

<td val[/IMG]   Pisces rules your 4th house, only Capricorn and Aquarius have influence over your 3rd house. Saturn is strong in your chart, and in Pisces it weakens your 3rd house, so that's definitely a big part of the problem.

If Saturn squares your ascendant, then the case is pretty much solved.

I don't know much about meditations to counteract this, but I guess the Mercury square would do more for you, as Saturn's square can actually make things worse. If Saturn is already so prominent, I wouldn't mess with that square, at least not for now.

The Mercury square is huge, though. A better and probably longer lasting solution would be meditating directly on the chakras, especially the throat and the base. If you're feeling "empty" and/or lethargic, empowering the solar chakra may help a lot as it provides much energy to the entire system. When you get consistent results, you can do the Mercury square for a definitive change.

Just my thoughts, though, as I'm really inexperienced with meditation.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@... wrote:

This post was very helpful. I'm getting closer!

If Capricorn co-rules my 3rd house does it mean Pisces co-rules my 3rd house too? Or is it just the beginning of the cusp?

No revealing aspect between Uranus and Mercury.

I may write well, but my learning process is extremely poor. Trust me when I say this. I did'nt know this since a while ago. You know, it's like seeing bad, you don't really know you see bad untill you comparison with others. I would do void meditation but thoughts didn't come up in my mind. I simply could not concentrate for more than 5 seconds without losing it. When I think of it, I do not think. At all. My brain is pretty much dead.

Indeed I have Saturn in Pisces, within the 4th house. I put alot of emphasis on Saturn since I have 3 planets in Capricorn (they conjunct each other, called Stellium I think) and Mars exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo (which you already know about).
I even have Saturn quite prominent, conjunct the 4th house cusp.

I thought about doing Mercury Square, but now I'm thinking of doing Saturn's. What is your opinion?

--- [/IMG][email protected], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Well, everything indicates it is. Not only the signs are intercepted, but Mercury as well, since it's in Aquarius. Mercury is exalted in Aquarius, but it is known to cause disruptive thought patterns and early schooling situations. Traditional learning processes usually don't work in this case.

With these signs intercepted it means that Capricorn co-rules your 3rd house, and that may cause problems, since it's ruled by Saturn. Count in the placement of Saturn, any aspects between Uranus and Mercury, and you may find out more details about the issue.

That's all definitely related to the problem, but I myself would never guess it could cause so much trouble. You write exceptionally well for someone with trouble learning and processing information.

If I remember well, you have Saturn in Pisces like me, so you must be around my age. We are very young, so if you feel this will cause serious trouble in your plans for the future, it's extremely important that you understand what is happening right now, so that you can work on it. I'm sure your problem can be solved if you work on it, either with meditation/re-writing your thought processes and/or persistently training to get better.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Okay I'm fairly sure that the whole learning, thinking process, manual dexterity and anything related to the 3rd house is having problems in my chart. I didn't drop it and I kept learning my chart and search for bad degrees and other problems but couldn't find the cause. Which lead me to Mars and Mercury again.

Something I didn't mention is my Aquarius and Leo signs being intercepted. Meaning the 3rd house and the 9th house are intercepted. I totally overlooked it as I thought it cannot be the cause, but I don't know where to look anymore.

My thinking process is flawed, this is for sure. I need to read your posts and others like 3 times to begin to understand. Early school was a pain in the ass. Also I have noticed changes in my quickness and general manual dexterity. Some days I was quick and alert regarding my hands and some other days I sucked. This imbalance implies even more there are problems. But where? I personally do not think it is the Intercepted sign but maybe you know different.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- [/IMG][email protected], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- [/IMG][email protected], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
[/TD]
 
So if both Aquarius and Capricorn have influence over my 3rd house, when both of them are ruled by Saturn, This is all obvious now.

Saturn is in the sign of Pisces, which as you said, weakens my 3rd house but not only that, It is in the 4th house of childhood.

Now intercepted signs and planets are already being hard to express, especially when they are so prominent (Mercury in the 3rd house of Aquarius), Now Saturn make it all logical.

Also my co-ruler is retrograde don't forget. I do not believe anymore, that Mars has directly effect on my Mercury and 3rd house however when so prominent Planet of a chart is retrograde the person will be a so called "late bloomer" and I'm indeed one.

I have read a great analogy in the other site, regarding intercepted signs and planets. The intercepted sign is like separate room within my house, which doesn't have any doors to it. Making it unavailable to reach it. Doing Mercury square in my opinion wouldn't help, as it is locked in the room. I need to find another key such as Saturn.

There is no one cause. I now begin to see the whole picture and it is very likely that the whole 3rd house gives me problems throughout my childhood. Maybe I will be some kind of "retarded" within the eyes of others untill the age of 30. Because astrologically I'm still a child.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

Pisces rules your 4th house, only Capricorn and Aquarius have influence over your 3rd house. Saturn is strong in your chart, and in Pisces it weakens your 3rd house, so that's definitely a big part of the problem.

If Saturn squares your ascendant, then the case is pretty much solved.

I don't know much about meditations to counteract this, but I guess the Mercury square would do more for you, as Saturn's square can actually make things worse. If Saturn is already so prominent, I wouldn't mess with that square, at least not for now.

The Mercury square is huge, though. A better and probably longer lasting solution would be meditating directly on the chakras, especially the throat and the base. If you're feeling "empty" and/or lethargic, empowering the solar chakra may help a lot as it provides much energy to the entire system. When you get consistent results, you can do the Mercury square for a definitive change.

Just my thoughts, though, as I'm really inexperienced with meditation.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

This post was very helpful. I'm getting closer!

If Capricorn co-rules my 3rd house does it mean Pisces co-rules my 3rd house too? Or is it just the beginning of the cusp?

No revealing aspect between Uranus and Mercury.

I may write well, but my learning process is extremely poor. Trust me when I say this. I did'nt know this since a while ago. You know, it's like seeing bad, you don't really know you see bad untill you comparison with others. I would do void meditation but thoughts didn't come up in my mind. I simply could not concentrate for more than 5 seconds without losing it. When I think of it, I do not think. At all. My brain is pretty much dead.

Indeed I have Saturn in Pisces, within the 4th house. I put alot of emphasis on Saturn since I have 3 planets in Capricorn (they conjunct each other, called Stellium I think) and Mars exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo (which you already know about).
I even have Saturn quite prominent, conjunct the 4th house cusp.

I thought about doing Mercury Square, but now I'm thinking of doing Saturn's. What is your opinion?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Well, everything indicates it is. Not only the signs are intercepted, but Mercury as well, since it's in Aquarius. Mercury is exalted in Aquarius, but it is known to cause disruptive thought patterns and early schooling situations. Traditional learning processes usually don't work in this case.

With these signs intercepted it means that Capricorn co-rules your 3rd house, and that may cause problems, since it's ruled by Saturn. Count in the placement of Saturn, any aspects between Uranus and Mercury, and you may find out more details about the issue.

That's all definitely related to the problem, but I myself would never guess it could cause so much trouble. You write exceptionally well for someone with trouble learning and processing information.

If I remember well, you have Saturn in Pisces like me, so you must be around my age. We are very young, so if you feel this will cause serious trouble in your plans for the future, it's extremely important that you understand what is happening right now, so that you can work on it. I'm sure your problem can be solved if you work on it, either with meditation/re-writing your thought processes and/or persistently training to get better.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Okay I'm fairly sure that the whole learning, thinking process, manual dexterity and anything related to the 3rd house is having problems in my chart. I didn't drop it and I kept learning my chart and search for bad degrees and other problems but couldn't find the cause. Which lead me to Mars and Mercury again.

Something I didn't mention is my Aquarius and Leo signs being intercepted. Meaning the 3rd house and the 9th house are intercepted. I totally overlooked it as I thought it cannot be the cause, but I don't know where to look anymore.

My thinking process is flawed, this is for sure. I need to read your posts and others like 3 times to begin to understand. Early school was a pain in the ass. Also I have noticed changes in my quickness and general manual dexterity. Some days I was quick and alert regarding my hands and some other days I sucked. This imbalance implies even more there are problems. But where? I personally do not think it is the Intercepted sign but maybe you know different.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Depends on your 3rd house in general, not only Mercury. I'm fairly sure, with the information you've given, Mercury and Mars are not the cause. Saturn in the 3rd house, Saturn in Gemini, challenging aspects to Mercury or Jupiter can cause trouble in learning.

Some astrologers believe that adverse aspects to the Ascendant can cause mental issues, as it rules the head, and this could possibly lead to learning problems, but I don't have any more info on that.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers. Many astrologers claim that the sign's ruler affects any planet therein because it is the planet's dispositor, but not the other way around, unless they are in mutual reception, which is an exceptional case where both planets are in each other's ruling signs. This doesn't seem to be your case.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

Thank you for responding.
It's interesting because I actually have difficulties with learning. And I do think it's related to the two. I also had problems with school. And I didn't finished school (Mercury rules early schooling).

Mercury in Aquarius is naturally attracted to Science and Mathematics. I suck at the two.

To how degree are you sure in the fact that the planets in the signs don't affect their rulers? Thanks again.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

Virgo doesn't deal much with learning as Gemini does. Mars gives energy and in Virgo it focuses on work and health. The only issues you could have with Mars retrograde there (and probably only because it's so prominent) are health related.

Planets in signs don't affect their rulers unless, of course, they are aspecting each other. Your Mercury is extremely well placed, and I can't imagine you having trouble learning, unless there are other bad placements for this in your chart.

If you do have any trouble learning, these planets are probably not the cause.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@ wrote:

If I have, for example Mars retrograde in the sign of Virgo, will it affect my ability to learn? Because Mercury rules Virgo, along with Gemini. Is it valid? Mars is prominently placed, exact conjunct the 10th house cusp of Virgo. Mars is also the only planet on the southern half (the top half) being the handling of my bucket chart. (Mars is also my co-ruler)

Mercury is in the sign of Aquarius, it's exaltation, in the third house.

I will not expose here the whole chart.. I just want to know how Mars retrograde in Virgo affect Mercury.. If at all, affecting.

HAIL SATAN!!!!
 
Hi. I have been working with Astrology for a few weeks now and have picked up on it very well. I went back to look at my chart and became somewhat confused with the answers it was providing me. I noticed I had five retrograde planets. Most of them were dominant in the chart as well, meaning they had more power. I also took a closer look and noticed most of them were in a house of delay and problems, ie. Pluto in Scorpio, Jupiter in Sagittarius, and Uranus in Aquarius. I am kinda worried what this means. I have been frantically reading the page on the JoS site, but it's providing no answers on the "delays or problems" in these houses. Could someone help me out? I posted the information on the retrograde planets below.
 
         Mercury in Gemini, House 12, Retrograde, Dominant
         Jupiter in Sagittarius, House 6, Retrograde, Dominant
         Uranus in Aquarius, House 8, Retrograde, Dominant
         Neptune in Capricorn, House 7, Retrograde
         Pluto in Scorpio, House 5, Retrograde, Dominant

I hope this does not mean anything bad, but I'd rather be prepared for what is ahead then live in fear of it not knowing what it does. Please help!
  Hail Satan! Hail Lilith! Hail Asmodeus!
 

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