Remembering Naruto Shippuden and its parallels with Our Current World

[MiniMe3388]

I never thought in my life that someone would thank Lord Satan for Naruto :lol: :lol:

 

[Woodlandman]

I've just been enlightened. Remember how sasuke after getting eternal mangekyo sharingan had ability to create black flames with one eye and steer them with another? It's an allegory to how human brain works. creative part of reality is accessed with right hemisphere and controled/tunneled with with logical left part. Good shit.

 

[HauptSturm]

Everyone should watch Naruto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy81JinTezw
Sigma rule #666 always troll, even if you didn't mean to.

 

[HauptSturm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zsUPOflQc
one more for good measure

 

[HauptSturm]

Jack you gotta watch the filler episodes.
The world is living in a genjustu right now and we are the only ones that see it. But it's slowly opening up to everyone else as time goes on. Naruto, in the later episodes, gave an example of someone who could see through the genjutsu. Despite being in a genjutsu themselves. But only if you watch the filler episodes...

No I watched the entire anime without fillers.

 

[RockSeed13]

Naruto is fun to watch but Naruto's talk no jutsu is stupid.

 

[HauptSturm]

Naruto is fun to watch but Naruto's talk no jutsu is stupid.

can you elaborate? naruto is the best. when i first saw the show when i was young, i thought it was stupid and never watched. but recently someone told me to watch and i did and i stuck with it and it turned out to be a great show. naruto's dad minato is the coolest. he is what everyone should strive to be.

 

[RockSeed13]

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can you elaborate? naruto is the best. when i first saw the show when i was young, i thought it was stupid and never watched. but recently someone told me to watch and i did and i stuck with it and it turned out to be a great show. naruto's dad minato is the coolest. he is what everyone should strive to be.

Naruto is a great show, I watched it when I was a kid on tv, and I hoped that I always got it but the network stopped airing it especially on the chunin exam, I later binged it when I discovered how to be a media-pirate.

What I said that Naruto's talk no jutsu is stupid, what I meant that Naruto talking Real Pain out of genociding the Konoha town and talking Obito out with his world changing plan. Some people are so lost in their motives that can't be salvegable just like communist militants in the Philippines.

Here are also my nitpicks of the Naruto series:
1. Might Guy not being Rock Lee's dad. When I watched it when I was young, I thought they were father and son and I got confused when I was rewatching it.
2. The Naruto show getting power creeped. In the first arc, there were tactics and strategy but in the final arcs it became dragon ball z.
3. Itachi murdering his clan and then the author saying that he was actually a good guy and only did that to strengthen his brother so that he could be stronger than him. I think Kishimoto only retconned him due to Itachi fangirls.

 

[Stormblood]

The best version is the Kai version. I only watched that.

 

[Jack]

The best version is the Kai version. I only watched that.

Dubbed version is awful, though. Avoid. Subs are always best, as dubbing can never convey the full depth of an original just like Yehubor can never convey true spiritual knowledge with their rip-off. Dubbing is similar to watching parodies, as far as I am concerned.

Bleach's Thousand Year Blood War arc is going to air as an anime it seems.

That would probably be one of the only good things to happen this year.

The Final Boss is Yatch (YwHW , may death and despair befall his name).

 

[luis]

The best version is the Kai version. I only watched that.

Dubbed version is awful, though. Avoid. Subs are always best, as dubbing can never convey the full depth of an original just like Yehubor can never convey true spiritual knowledge with their rip-off. Dubbing is similar to watching parodies, as far as I am concerned.

Bleach's Thousand Year Blood War arc is going to air as an anime it seems.

That would probably be one of the only good things to happen this year.

The Final Boss is Yatch (YwHW , may death and despair befall his name).

I never watched bleach, is it any good?

 

[Kavya Shukra]

The best version is the Kai version. I only watched that.

Dubbed version is awful, though. Avoid. Subs are always best, as dubbing can never convey the full depth of an original just like Yehubor can never convey true spiritual knowledge with their rip-off. Dubbing is similar to watching parodies, as far as I am concerned.

Bleach's Thousand Year Blood War arc is going to air as an anime it seems.

That would probably be one of the only good things to happen this year.

The Final Boss is Yatch (YwHW , may death and despair befall his name).

The fact the Sternritter has some implications of Nazi Germany and the white knights of the southern cross is interesting

 

[hailourtruegod]

Skimming thru earlier posts about attack on titan made me think y'all were saying it was Yehuborim trash so I'm confused now with all the recent positive talk of it lol. I'll have to check it out.

I've been hesitant on Naruto because of how many episodes it is even with the non filler version. It'll be on my to-watch list in the future.

Been trying to watch second season of Demon s***er (I hate saying it's title so I'll self censor myself here, I'm sure people know which one I'm talking about) but it gets annoying reading the word Demon in such a negative context so I've been taking my time with it.

 

[Jack]

Skimming thru earlier posts about attack on titan made me think y'all were saying it was Yehuborim trash so I'm confused now with all the recent positive talk of it lol. I'll have to check it out.

I've been hesitant on Naruto because of how many episodes it is even with the non filler version. It'll be on my to-watch list in the future.

Been trying to watch second season of Demon s***er (I hate saying it's title so I'll self censor myself here, I'm sure people know which one I'm talking about) but it gets annoying reading the word Demon in such a negative context so I've been taking my time with it.

I think it's just the English Translation. Because most words in English don't have a western cultural equivalent. For example from Hindu mythology, Asura and Deva are translated as Demons and Gods but that's incorrect because Hindus do not have a concept of Demons or God's.

They also say that Ahimsa means non violence which is retarded thinking that the context in which its said by Lord Krishna to Arjuna is when he's literally instructing him to man up and go kill his cousins who've turned against Dharma. Ahimsa means "Minimizing the Violence, taking into consideration the goal."

All the Cultural languages are incorrectly translated into English.

Also on the topic of Attack on titan, the basic premise of the Anime is that Two races who have irreconcilable differences cannot co exist. You can take both the Yehuborim and Aryan side as the Eldians. Certainly no Yehubor in the entirety of History created Nationalistic Paramilitary organizations like it's described the Eldians are.

 

[Stormblood]

The best version is the Kai version. I only watched that.

Dubbed version is awful, though. Avoid. Subs are always best, as dubbing can never convey the full depth of an original just like Yehubor can never convey true spiritual knowledge with their rip-off. Dubbing is similar to watching parodies, as far as I am concerned.

Bleach's Thousand Year Blood War arc is going to air as an anime it seems.

That would probably be one of the only good things to happen this year.

The Final Boss is Yatch (YwHW , may death and despair befall his name).

Make posts about Bleach and Saint Seiya.

 

[Jack]

Dubbed version is awful, though. Avoid. Subs are always best, as dubbing can never convey the full depth of an original just like Yehubor can never convey true spiritual knowledge with their rip-off. Dubbing is similar to watching parodies, as far as I am concerned.

Bleach's Thousand Year Blood War arc is going to air as an anime it seems.

That would probably be one of the only good things to happen this year.

The Final Boss is Yatch (YwHW , may death and despair befall his name).

Make posts about Bleach and Saint Seiya.

I don't remember about it that well. I watched it when I was a kid and my memory is failing me about the plot. I can't make an in depth analysis like I can about Naruto.

 

[hailourtruegod]

I think it's just the English Translation. Because most words in English don't have a western cultural equivalent. For example from Hindu mythology, Asura and Deva are translated as Demons and Gods but that's incorrect because Hindus do not have a concept of Demons or God's.

They also say that Ahimsa means non violence which is retarded thinking that the context in which its said by Lord Krishna to Arjuna is when he's literally instructing him to man up and go kill his cousins who've turned against Dharma. Ahimsa means "Minimizing the Violence, taking into consideration the goal."

All the Cultural languages are incorrectly translated into English.

Also on the topic of Attack on titan, the basic premise of the Anime is that Two races who have irreconcilable differences cannot co exist. You can take both the Yehuborim and Aryan side as the Eldians. Certainly no Yehubor in the entirety of History created Nationalistic Paramilitary organizations like it's described the Eldians are.

I figured as much about those words being rough or mistranslations. Thank you for the confirmation bias :lol: but it's true though because the Japanese don't have the xian concept of demons like you said with Indians.


I'll keep in mind what you said about AoT as well.

 

[Stormblood]

Skimming thru earlier posts about attack on titan made me think y'all were saying it was Yehuborim trash so I'm confused now with all the recent positive talk of it lol. I'll have to check it out.

I've been hesitant on Naruto because of how many episodes it is even with the non filler version. It'll be on my to-watch list in the future.

Been trying to watch second season of Demon s***er (I hate saying it's title so I'll self censor myself here, I'm sure people know which one I'm talking about) but it gets annoying reading the word Demon in such a negative context so I've been taking my time with it.

I think it's just the English Translation. Because most words in English don't have a western cultural equivalent. For example from Hindu mythology, Asura and Deva are translated as Demons and Gods but that's incorrect because Hindus do not have a concept of Demons or God's.

They also say that Ahimsa means non violence which is retarded thinking that the context in which its said by Lord Krishna to Arjuna is when he's literally instructing him to man up and go kill his cousins who've turned against Dharma. Ahimsa means "Minimizing the Violence, taking into consideration the goal."

All the Cultural languages are incorrectly translated into English.

Also on the topic of Attack on titan, the basic premise of the Anime is that Two races who have irreconcilable differences cannot co exist. You can take both the Yehuborim and Aryan side as the Eldians. Certainly no Yehubor in the entirety of History created Nationalistic Paramilitary organizations like it's described the Eldians are.

I think ahimsa is avoiding UNNECESSARY violence but we know sometimes violence is necessary, so employing it appropriately doesn't violate ahimsa in any way.

Eastern religions are heavily based on wisdom, while in the West we have many rebellious, self-serving people with little awareness of themselves and the universe. They simply cannot grasp it. We get many of these here as beginners, then eventually they grow up through meditation and experience or have a fit and leave, trying to make dramatic anime exits.

 

[Jack]

Skimming thru earlier posts about attack on titan made me think y'all were saying it was Yehuborim trash so I'm confused now with all the recent positive talk of it lol. I'll have to check it out.

I've been hesitant on Naruto because of how many episodes it is even with the non filler version. It'll be on my to-watch list in the future.

Been trying to watch second season of Demon s***er (I hate saying it's title so I'll self censor myself here, I'm sure people know which one I'm talking about) but it gets annoying reading the word Demon in such a negative context so I've been taking my time with it.

I think it's just the English Translation. Because most words in English don't have a western cultural equivalent. For example from Hindu mythology, Asura and Deva are translated as Demons and Gods but that's incorrect because Hindus do not have a concept of Demons or God's.

They also say that Ahimsa means non violence which is retarded thinking that the context in which its said by Lord Krishna to Arjuna is when he's literally instructing him to man up and go kill his cousins who've turned against Dharma. Ahimsa means "Minimizing the Violence, taking into consideration the goal."

All the Cultural languages are incorrectly translated into English.

Also on the topic of Attack on titan, the basic premise of the Anime is that Two races who have irreconcilable differences cannot co exist. You can take both the Yehuborim and Aryan side as the Eldians. Certainly no Yehubor in the entirety of History created Nationalistic Paramilitary organizations like it's described the Eldians are.

I think ahimsa is avoiding UNNECESSARY violence but we know sometimes violence is necessary, so employing it appropriately doesn't violate ahimsa in any way.

Eastern religions are heavily based on wisdom, while in the West we have many rebellious, self-serving people with little awareness of themselves and the universe. They simply cannot grasp it. We get many of these here as beginners, then eventually they grow up through meditation and experience or have a fit and leave, trying to make dramatic anime exits.

Very true.

 

[HauptSturm]

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can you elaborate? naruto is the best. when i first saw the show when i was young, i thought it was stupid and never watched. but recently someone told me to watch and i did and i stuck with it and it turned out to be a great show. naruto's dad minato is the coolest. he is what everyone should strive to be.

Naruto is a great show, I watched it when I was a kid on tv, and I hoped that I always got it but the network stopped airing it especially on the chunin exam, I later binged it when I discovered how to be a media-pirate.

What I said that Naruto's talk no jutsu is stupid, what I meant that Naruto talking Real Pain out of genociding the Konoha town and talking Obito out with his world changing plan. Some people are so lost in their motives that can't be salvegable just like communist militants in the Philippines.

Here are also my nitpicks of the Naruto series:
1. Might Guy not being Rock Lee's dad. When I watched it when I was young, I thought they were father and son and I got confused when I was rewatching it.
2. The Naruto show getting power creeped. In the first arc, there were tactics and strategy but in the final arcs it became dragon ball z.
3. Itachi murdering his clan and then the author saying that he was actually a good guy and only did that to strengthen his brother so that he could be stronger than him. I think Kishimoto only retconned him due to Itachi fangirls.

Fighting without fighting is the ultimate form of fighting. That's what we do. I remember the Nazis met with the British and discussed their problems with them. And one of the British had to walk away or else he would have started agreeing with the Nazis. That's why there is so much censorship now. Because if we were allowed to say what we wanted, we would win over everyone. Not to mention the rituals the Nazis were doing...

I agree with 1. and 2. But 3. was different. He was trying to avoid a war. There was no other option. But if I was Itachi, I would have sided with the Uchiha and fought the hidden leaf lol. Or gone with the one guy's idea using the genjutsu on the uchiha clan with his eyes. But danzo screwed that up. It would have been nice if the two clans would have gotten along like they should have.

 

[RockSeed13]

I agree with 1. and 2. But 3. was different. He was trying to avoid a war. There was no other option. But if I was Itachi, I would have sided with the Uchiha and fought the hidden leaf lol. Or gone with the one guy's idea using the genjutsu on the uchiha clan with his eyes. But danzo screwed that up. It would have been nice if the two clans would have gotten along like they should have.

If I was Itachi, I would escort my family/clan into another nation.

 

[Stormblood]

I disagree with #2.

It's normal there are guys who have far greater potential and more dedication to training, and their power levels defy logic. If the Founding Fathers were reincarnated now that they are at Demigod level, I wouldn't expect them to progress them as slowly as someone who never reached that level. Look at figure of the past: he started at Demigod level because he was Pharaoh in his previous life, and in this life he became a full-fledged God. Did every Vril Society member achieve that? No... far from it.

Potential, growth rate, and dedication to specific pursuits are a thing, both in reality and in anime. Most shinobi in Naruto, just like most NPCs and many new Zevism are at the level of cannon fodder. With persistence and ideal conditions, they could go far but many either lack ideal conditions or the necessary persistence or both. Same in Naruto: most shinobi simply didn't the motivation and dedication Naruto, Sasuke and other characters did, nor were they reincarnation of extremely powerful beings, nor were they given as much attention and growth opportunities by powerful individuals.

When someone is in a completely different power league compared to you, it's normal to be dwarfed by their power regardless of tactics. In the face of overwhelming power, there is no tactic or strategy that can save. A real-life example is that the Gods could kill you in the blink of an eye if they wanted, even the weakest of them could do that. Even minor entities in Satan's Empire like gargoyles and so on. And there is no strategy you could employ to save yourself. If that is true in reality, imagine in fiction.

In the face of comparable power level, tactics and strategies were still used even at the end of the manga. Kaguya literally had to be sealed off again because they couldn't deal with her and they couldn't harm her at all.

 

[Gearshift]

A real-life example is that the Gods could kill you in the blink of an eye if they wanted, even the weakest of them could do that. Even minor entities in Satan's Empire like gargoyles and so on. And there is no strategy you could employ to save yourself. If that is true in reality, imagine in fiction.

Are you sure? I've been under the assumption when something like this had been mentioned. HP.Cobra was like don't mix fantasy with reality.

I thought the reason why a person can be seriously destroyed(baneful/black magic ruin life etc.etc.) but not killed outright like "Wave of the hand; DEATH!" was because entities are composed of vibration and it takes time and effort to wear them down. Although judging from the Gods it's probably child's play at de-vibrating a person out of existence.

But really? Like as straightforward not outlandish that easy?

 

[Jack]

Eastern religions are heavily based on wisdom, while in the West we have many rebellious, self-serving people with little awareness of themselves and the universe. They simply cannot grasp it. We get many of these here as beginners, then eventually they grow up through meditation and experience or have a fit and leave, trying to make dramatic anime exits.

You're so traumatized.

Why is he traumatized ? He's not wrong. We all come from different Karmic backgrounds and we all have to go through different paths in life. Some people even in meditation are born special and that's just how it is. For some people it might just take two years to get completely tapped in and figure out what one has to do and How to do it and some people who aren't born special may take 10 years and even then may not be able to figure it out.

Western people have only been subjected to their pagan history through the distorted writings of Christian preachers. They are completely disconnected from Nature and reality and live in a perpetual reactionary state to the outside world.

When you're not in touch with yourself and are living in a reactionary state is the only way you could be self serving and delusional.

If you're in touch with yourself, one understands that he is part of a whole - A part of Nature ,A part of his Race and a part of the Universe and he is never JUST an Individual. He realizes that his individual actions must be geared towards competence and success but NOT at the expense of the greater good.

You can see this in corporations where a lot of the managers are very competent at what they do but they're very self centered and disconnected from Nature and sell POISON to the common people and take more of their power away. This is what Stormblood is trying to say.

We must realize that while we are Individuals we are also part of a collective that we are born to serve in one capacity or other.

People who are drowning in self centeredness are not individualistic. They are the epitome of living in a reactionary state. Because they are disconnected from the spiritual aspect ,they are searching the meaning and purpose of life in their materialistic emotions that are stimulated from outside.

And because of this they follow a path set by society to get more and more material pleasures that will make them "feel" good. This turns into an obsession and makes them extremely self centered in the process but after years and years of searching they cannot find purpose or satisfaction even though they've done a lot of things that common People couldn't do.

A Yogi who is beyond his emotions lives in equanimity with nature. He doesn't experience life in a reactionary way. He makes conscious decisions about life which makes him centered in himself and proves that it is not his material possessions and the subsequent emotions that are important but his WILL and ACTION.

Because a conscious Yogi understands that he's happy not because he has a lot of money but because he was competent in his being due to his personal value which resulted in him making a lot of money. And if everything was taken away from him ,he could build everything up again because of his self belief.

It's not just Westerners ,a lot of People around the world are living in a reactionary state without being consciously aware of what's going on with themselves and the world. The purpose of Yoga is to make them conscious of everything that's happening inside themselves, to them and in the world.

 

[Stormblood]

Eastern religions are heavily based on wisdom, while in the West we have many rebellious, self-serving people with little awareness of themselves and the universe. They simply cannot grasp it. We get many of these here as beginners, then eventually they grow up through meditation and experience or have a fit and leave, trying to make dramatic anime exits.

You're so traumatized.

You must have understood by now that the contemporary world doesn't make any sense to me. Even the world in WW2 time was much better for me in terms of values. What's the point? Now a disaggregation of every value is reaching the final stages. Hopefully, from the ashes strong, uplifting values will be born again. Anything, this is an OT, so it ends here for me.

[OT: if you can, take ashwagandha and schisendra berries (schisendra sinensis). Ashwagandha should have at least 5% withanolides to be of any use. Around 15% would be better, more could be too much, but I've never seen a higher concentration, so...]

 

[Stormblood]

A real-life example is that the Gods could kill you in the blink of an eye if they wanted, even the weakest of them could do that. Even minor entities in Satan's Empire like gargoyles and so on. And there is no strategy you could employ to save yourself. If that is true in reality, imagine in fiction.

Are you sure? I've been under the assumption when something like this had been mentioned. HP.Cobra was like don't mix fantasy with reality.

I thought the reason why a person can be seriously destroyed(baneful/black magic ruin life etc.etc.) but not killed outright like "Wave of the hand; DEATH!" was because entities are composed of vibration and it takes time and effort to wear them down. Although judging from the Gods it's probably child's play at de-vibrating a person out of existence.

But really? Like as straightforward not outlandish that easy?

I will give you a straightforward example: the cast and crew of The Exorcist, who made the mistake of creating something that is character murder of Pazuzu.

Another example: people who destroy temples in Mesopotamia.

I honestly also hope the people who took people out of Egyptian tombs the other year and used them in a abrahamic-life parade, will have their life ruined. That's tomb desecration. And the same also applied to people who stole anything from Egyptian tombs and either kept it to themselves or put them in a museum. It doesn't belong to them but to the people who are buried in the tomb who will one day reincarnate and want their stuff back, as that's why they put in tombs instead of leaving them to their beloved as a legacy.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

If you get the chance Jack watch BlackClover and Bleach. Fairytale as well is good.

 

[Jack]

You're so traumatized.

Why is he traumatized ? He's not wrong. We all come from different Karmic backgrounds and we all have to go through different paths in life. Some people even in meditation are born special and that's just how it is. For some people it might just take two years to get completely tapped in and figure out what one has to do and How to do it and some people who aren't born special may take 10 years and even then may not be able to figure it out.

Western people have only been subjected to their pagan history through the distorted writings of Christian preachers. They are completely disconnected from Nature and reality and live in a perpetual reactionary state to the outside world.

When you're not in touch with yourself and are living in a reactionary state is the only way you could be self serving and delusional.

If you're in touch with yourself, one understands that he is part of a whole - A part of Nature ,A part of his Race and a part of the Universe and he is never JUST an Individual. He realizes that his individual actions must be geared towards competence and success but NOT at the expense of the greater good.

You can see this in corporations where a lot of the managers are very competent at what they do but they're very self centered and disconnected from Nature and sell POISON to the common people and take more of their power away. This is what Stormblood is trying to say.

We must realize that while we are Individuals we are also part of a collective that we are born to serve in one capacity or other.

People who are drowning in self centeredness are not individualistic. They are the epitome of living in a reactionary state. Because they are disconnected from the spiritual aspect ,they are searching the meaning and purpose of life in their materialistic emotions that are stimulated from outside.

And because of this they follow a path set by society to get more and more material pleasures that will make them "feel" good. This turns into an obsession and makes them extremely self centered in the process but after years and years of searching they cannot find purpose or satisfaction even though they've done a lot of things that common People couldn't do.

A Yogi who is beyond his emotions lives in equanimity with nature. He doesn't experience life in a reactionary way. He makes conscious decisions about life which makes him centered in himself and proves that it is not his material possessions and the subsequent emotions that are important but his WILL and ACTION.

Because a conscious Yogi understands that he's happy not because he has a lot of money but because he was competent in his being due to his personal value which resulted in him making a lot of money. And if everything was taken away from him ,he could build everything up again because of his self belief.

It's not just Westerners ,a lot of People around the world are living in a reactionary state without being consciously aware of what's going on with themselves and the world. The purpose of Yoga is to make them conscious of everything that's happening inside themselves, to them and in the world.

He was being petty and throwing subtle shade at me even though the argument between us was finished weeks ago. He can't let go so he publicly licks his wounds as often as he can find opportunities to do so. He's also aware that I'm the only one who is likely to notice it so he thinks he gets to grin while I can't do anything. Except he's wrong because I can do something. I can scare him again by calling him out and showing him just how clearly I see through him, and that it doesn't matter one bit to me if no one believes me.

It's not that messing with him is fun for me... it's actually not entertaining to me at all. It would be nice if he could just let it go and move on. I would prefer friendlier relations with people here if possible.

I'm also trying to figure out why you went on this tangent. I know you didn't do it for my sake. Oh well. If you're up to something then your motives will become clear to me soon enough. I always find the truth inside peoples' hearts eventually. Maybe you're trying to refine your working ideology one more time to pitch it to me again to see if you finally got it right. If you really want feedback then you shouldn't be surprised by what I'm going to say. You're still starting from your axiom that emotions are the problem to be done away with. You can clean your message up all you want, and you can make it super compelling - but it's still going to have that fundamental problem which is that you're at war with emotions both in other people as well as yourself. You can tame the emotional side enough to experience it without it controlling you, but killing it and subduing it completely isn't the answer. Emotions when properly worked with and directed are extremely powerful, and suppressing them just robs us of potential and power. The longer we hide from our emotional side, the longer it remains unstable and hurt, and ironically it does exactly what we try to stop it from doing in the first place which is control us and run our lives. It's only by working with our emotions that we can gain true control of them. True masculine control is about directing the flow of a river rather than stopping the river from flowing.

I don't treat this forum as an alternate social media so I can't comprehend how any kind of beef could persist after a couple of arguments ,or what kind of a non existent real life someone leads to keep count and remember things that anonymous pictures tell you and you took that to heart. So when you said he was traumatized I thought you were making a false statement of fact but it seems you're just too much into yourself that you think everything revolves around you and everyone is talking shit about you or that you're very important in someone's mind to remember and think about.

It's sad to break it to you but no one cares friend. About you. No one thinks about you. Absolutely no one is waking up thinking "Yeah ill go to the forum today and talk shit about this anonymous guy." If you're so socially isolated you should join a book club or something and try to talk to people. It's really hurting your mental health and it's very cringe to see but still somewhat sad.

I thought you had a wife. Doesn't she tell you to stop taking this forum so seriously and do something real in life like make some money or focus on more important things.

This forum is for information and spiritual action. It's not about people. It's about ideas and acting on those ideas. How you conduct your personal life has no bearing on anyone else here.

 

[Aquarius]

Eastern religions are heavily based on wisdom, while in the West we have many rebellious, self-serving people with little awareness of themselves and the universe. They simply cannot grasp it. We get many of these here as beginners, then eventually they grow up through meditation and experience or have a fit and leave, trying to make dramatic anime exits.

You're so traumatized.

This literally makes no sense as a reply. He never stated any falsity, what he said is true. How does saying the truth make him traumatized?

 

[Henu the Great]

Eastern religions are heavily based on wisdom, while in the West we have many rebellious, self-serving people with little awareness of themselves and the universe. They simply cannot grasp it. We get many of these here as beginners, then eventually they grow up through meditation and experience or have a fit and leave, trying to make dramatic anime exits.

You're so traumatized.

This literally makes no sense as a reply. He never stated any falsity, what he said is true. How does saying the truth make him traumatized?

His post has to be understood from the perspective of having a beef. Not letting go of past disagreement would actually make jrvan the traumatized one. I think he should simply move on.

 

[Henu the Great]

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Maybe. I have my own karma just like everyone else though, and I'm working on it. It could also just be my personality, idk. I'll say though that it would be easier to move on for me if certain people in question could also move on and stop mentioning it. Like yes it looks distasteful and cringy on my part to call it out, and shows an inability to simply ignore slights which I guess is immature of me. But you have to ask yourself if you actually think I'm concerned with how I look at this point. I've consistently shown that I'm not. I'm a status quo defying maverick, and I do and say what I want.

It also looks cringy when other people keep getting cringed out by me "wasting my time" feuding with people and waste their own time to try to change me. If you can't handle it, if you think it looks bad, if you think I'm ruining my potential and want me to be a better role model or something, then why not just take your own advice and keep it to yourself especially if you know I'm not going to change very soon? Eat your own words - what's the point in wasting your time shaming me? Better to just do it silently, right? Better to just keep everything inside, right?

If I'm wrong about Stormblood then so be it. I personally wouldn't trust him even if he denies my accusations, and I already suspected that he would deny it. It's not the first time that he couldn't let go of the argument and made petty comments that were subtly referencing me to passive aggressively complain. He did it a surprising amount weeks ago after the dust had already settled, and I thought he was done with it after a while. Then I saw this and it seemed to follow the same pattern, and it irked me so I taunted him.

Maybe Stormblood really wasn't playing games here, and has moved on long ago. If that's the case then it will make me happier.

I did not shame you, and I do not see how Stormblood has done so in the post you quoted above as well. I do not think it was related to you in the slightest. If you took any of these posts as shaming, then that is your perception of the posts and not much more.

 

[hailourtruegod]

His post has to be understood from the perspective of having a beef. Not letting go of past disagreement would actually make jrvan the traumatized one. I think he should simply move on.

Maybe. I have my own karma just like everyone else though, and I'm working on it. It could also just be my personality, idk. I'll say though that it would be easier to move on for me if certain people in question could also move on and stop mentioning it. Like yes it looks distasteful and cringy on my part to call it out, and shows an inability to simply ignore slights which I guess is immature of me. But you have to ask yourself if you actually think I'm concerned with how I look at this point. I've consistently shown that I'm not. I'm a status quo defying maverick, and I do and say what I want.

It also looks cringy when other people keep getting cringed out by me "wasting my time" feuding with people and waste their own time to try to change me. If you can't handle it, if you think it looks bad, if you think I'm ruining my potential and want me to be a better role model or something, then why not just take your own advice and keep it to yourself especially if you know I'm not going to change very soon? Eat your own words - what's the point in wasting your time shaming me? Better to just do it silently, right? Better to just keep everything inside, right?

If I'm wrong about Stormblood then so be it. I personally wouldn't trust him even if he denies my accusations, and I already suspected that he would deny it. It's not the first time that he couldn't let go of the argument and made petty comments that were subtly referencing me to passive aggressively complain. He did it a surprising amount weeks ago after the dust had already settled, and I thought he was done with it after a while. Then I saw this and it seemed to follow the same pattern, and it irked me so I taunted him.

Maybe Stormblood really wasn't playing games here, and has moved on long ago. If that's the case then it will make me happier.

You're blowing this out of proportion, in my opinion. You came out left field with the tramautized comment. It would had been better if you saved all this for a better time where you could have proved what you're claiming about him. Right now it honestly just looks like what others have posted in regards to your reply to Stormblood to be 100% factual. Especially with trying hard to still be right even after being called out by several people.

Stormblood, in my opinion, would of said what he said even before you came here or yours dispute with him. He's always been set on that type of world view which I too agree with. I really don't think it was a jab towards you personally and if nothing else it's just a case of "if the shoe fits". Perhaps objectively looking from his point of view will help you understand where he came from and that it had nothing to do with you but speaking in general what's wrong with the western world if not most of the world.

It seems you're an empath but that just means you need to work on having your emotions on check and that's not the same as not having emotions. I recently realized what Marcus Aurelius meant by not having passion. It simply means not being emotionally immature. It's more complexed than that if you go deeper into it but that's the gist of it. Or better yet, not to be a reactionary person.

I hope you don't see this as a pile on. Just want to help you out here in an objective manner.

 

[hailourtruegod]

Especially with trying hard to still be right even after being called out by several people.

That's not what I'm doing. I've taken stock of the rest of what you wrote, but I wanted to contest this part. I offered an explanation for my point of view, and I've been saying that I don't care about how I'm perceived by others. The proof of this is that I'm fully aware, and was fully aware before it happened, of how I'm perceived by taking this action - and the action itself had the singular intent to taunt. I know very well that there's no way for me to be perceived as the righteous one in this scenario, and I accepted that as soon as I made the initial comment. I made a choice to accept what I perceived as a challenge to play mind games. I'm also aware that if I'm right then only Stormblood "gains" in a sense socially from this action of mine, and I don't care. It's the knowledge that (if I'm right) he will be intimidated by me openly confronting him about his remarks that brings me satisfaction, and this is because he is the passive aggressive type that avoids confrontation. If I'm correct in my assessment of him and his psychology, then there is always the chance that this might spur him to overcome his avoidant nature if it is good for him to overcome it. If it strengthens him somehow as a result then all the better in my opinion.

I meant it as I how I was perceiving it at the time but thank you for clarifying it for me.

 

[Aquarius]

Especially with trying hard to still be right even after being called out by several people.

That's not what I'm doing. I've taken stock of the rest of what you wrote, but I wanted to contest this part. I offered an explanation for my point of view, and I've been saying that I don't care about how I'm perceived by others. The proof of this is that I'm fully aware, and was fully aware before it happened, of how I'm perceived by taking this action - and the action itself had the singular intent to taunt. I know very well that there's no way for me to be perceived as the righteous one in this scenario, and I accepted that as soon as I made the initial comment. I made a choice to accept what I perceived as a challenge to play mind games. I'm also aware that if I'm right then only Stormblood "gains" in a sense socially from this action of mine, and I don't care. It's the knowledge that (if I'm right) he will be intimidated by me openly confronting him about his remarks that brings me satisfaction, and this is because he is the passive aggressive type that avoids confrontation. If I'm correct in my assessment of him and his psychology, then there is always the chance that this might spur him to overcome his avoidant nature if it is good for him to overcome it. If it strengthens him somehow as a result then all the better in my opinion.

This is a childish behaviour, just so you know.

 

[Stormblood]

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[OT: if you can, take ashwagandha and schisendra berries (schisendra sinensis). Ashwagandha should have at least 5% withanolides to be of any use. Around 15% would be better, more could be too much, but I've never seen a higher concentration, so...]

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The quoted, unsolicited advice is about an issue you discussed in another topic. Keep in mind, if the ashwagandha causes any excretory issues, to stop supplementation.

 

[Jack]

He was being petty and throwing subtle shade at me even though the argument between us was finished weeks ago. He can't let go so he publicly licks his wounds as often as he can find opportunities to do so. He's also aware that I'm the only one who is likely to notice it so he thinks he gets to grin while I can't do anything. Except he's wrong because I can do something. I can scare him again by calling him out and showing him just how clearly I see through him, and that it doesn't matter one bit to me if no one believes me.

It's not that messing with him is fun for me... it's actually not entertaining to me at all. It would be nice if he could just let it go and move on. I would prefer friendlier relations with people here if possible.

I'm also trying to figure out why you went on this tangent. I know you didn't do it for my sake. Oh well. If you're up to something then your motives will become clear to me soon enough. I always find the truth inside peoples' hearts eventually. Maybe you're trying to refine your working ideology one more time to pitch it to me again to see if you finally got it right. If you really want feedback then you shouldn't be surprised by what I'm going to say. You're still starting from your axiom that emotions are the problem to be done away with. You can clean your message up all you want, and you can make it super compelling - but it's still going to have that fundamental problem which is that you're at war with emotions both in other people as well as yourself. You can tame the emotional side enough to experience it without it controlling you, but killing it and subduing it completely isn't the answer. Emotions when properly worked with and directed are extremely powerful, and suppressing them just robs us of potential and power. The longer we hide from our emotional side, the longer it remains unstable and hurt, and ironically it does exactly what we try to stop it from doing in the first place which is control us and run our lives. It's only by working with our emotions that we can gain true control of them. True masculine control is about directing the flow of a river rather than stopping the river from flowing.

I don't treat this forum as an alternate social media so I can't comprehend how any kind of beef could persist after a couple of arguments ,or what kind of a non existent real life someone leads to keep count and remember things that anonymous pictures tell you and you took that to heart. So when you said he was traumatized I thought you were making a false statement of fact but it seems you're just too much into yourself that you think everything revolves around you and everyone is talking shit about you or that you're very important in someone's mind to remember and think about.

It's sad to break it to you but no one cares friend. About you. No one thinks about you. Absolutely no one is waking up thinking "Yeah ill go to the forum today and talk shit about this anonymous guy." If you're so socially isolated you should join a book club or something and try to talk to people. It's really hurting your mental health and it's very cringe to see but still somewhat sad.

I thought you had a wife. Doesn't she tell you to stop taking this forum so seriously and do something real in life like make some money or focus on more important things.

This forum is for information and spiritual action. It's not about people. It's about ideas and acting on those ideas. How you conduct your personal life has no bearing on anyone else here.

Pot and kettle, dude. Also, if it's all so unimportant then why are you wasting your own time replying to me just to tell me this rather than something else? There's clear intent in your message to try to hurt me and make me feel small - it definitely wasn't a "courtesy" to tell me that for my own benefit, awareness, or anything like that. So clearly I do matter to you.

Because no one other than you is polluting this thread about Naruto I made and made it all about you. Weirdo.