Religion

[Aquarius]

And I think that Dahaarkan was being a little more harsh than he really needed to be about it. I believe that there is no reason to be mean to Top of the Abyss, or to be that harsh with him. It's not going to accomplish anything anyway. It's just better to not say anything to him, than to try to argue. Because it's not going to get anywhere with him.

Say your opinion, say your perspective. But if he is disagreeing with you and he is going to pretend that you never said anything that you just said, then just ignore him.

We're gonna cuddle him and tickle his belly and tell him: "It's okay, you're always right".
Lol, jk. But sometimes people need rude awakenings to face reality.

 

[Seby]

You are a moron who contributes nothing of value to any conversation you are a part of. Since mods don't block you from advocating dangerous ideas and you don't listen to reason there's nothing left to do than call you fucking retarded like you are.

Zevism should lie to keep their cover and keep others from discovering they are Satanists. It is because paganism is on the rise that you should not say you are pagan. People will ask questions and you will likely expose yourself. Where as saying you're athiest or agnostic the argument ends there and you keep your cover.

You're advocating people take extra risks simply to conform to your personal preference and dislike of lying. It's always better to lie because exposing yourself can ruin your life. There's no reason to take extra risks.


And I'm not surprised to see you haven't dropped this obnoxious arrogant cunt attitude. Like you know better than anyone here. You've been here for years and you don't know or understand jack shit, always asking about basic crap. And we're supposed to put up with this know-it-all attitude from a dumbass that doesn't understand anything at all.

I'm not even going to try to reason with you, it's a waste of time. You never changed and you never will.

Like always everything you said is either false. You have proven and now you're confirming again that you're a bot incapable of critical thought. At least you admit you aren't going to try to reason. The truth is because you can't. All the posts in reply to me and not a single refutation. Once an idiot, always an idiot.

I honestly believe the same that Dahaarkan said, you should do some introspection on yourself and accept critics.

Too bad my critics you're referring to are all braindead.

 

[Dahaarkan]

We're gonna cuddle him and tickle his belly and tell him: "It's okay, you're always right".
Lol, jk. But sometimes people need rude awakenings to face reality.

The issue with this individual is the same as some others who are so full of themselves that they begin to believe they are correct in all things and have deeper understanding than anyone else.

They can never be wrong about anything and anyone who contradicts any of their statements is either "attacking them" or an "idiot". No matter how many people make a logical statement or try to discuss something they are all idiots because this person in their absolute understanding and vast knowledge knows more and knows better than everyone else.


You cannot reason with these types. So at least point out how petty they are and ridicule this absurd behavior to discourage others from becoming like this.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Lol, jk. But sometimes people need rude awakenings to face reality.

I'm just saying that rude awakenings do not work for him. He will just ignore it. It's just a waste of time for everyone involved.

 

[Dahaarkan]

And I think that Dahaarkan was being a little more harsh than he really needed to be about it. I believe that there is no reason to be mean to Top of the Abyss, or to be that harsh with him. It's not going to accomplish anything anyway. It's just better to not say anything to him, than to try to argue. Because it's not going to get anywhere with him.

Say your opinion, say your perspective. But if he is disagreeing with you and he is going to pretend that you never said anything that you just said, then just ignore him.

The reason to be harsh is his obnoxious arrogant attitude is disrespectful to other members and should not be tolerated. Disregarding everything that everyone says as if they are idiots is very disrespectful. Which should this creature have a free pass to disrespect everyone in this passive aggressive manner?

No, this behavior needs to be addressed and pointed out. And as there is no room for reasonable discussion with this person (I have tried before) all you can do is put it bluntly how petty and absurd he is to discourage this behavior on others.

 

[Henu the Great]

We're gonna cuddle him and tickle his belly and tell him: "It's okay, you're always right".
Lol, jk. But sometimes people need rude awakenings to face reality.

The only conversations where ToboftheAbyss is relevant are the likes of what lollipop is your favourite, or what bmx bike rides the best. I have read the forums actively for a year now, and he is at the same point as a year ago. He has been around longer than that so most likely he has stagnated for longer.

Look at this example:

Too bad my critics you're referring to are all braindead.

Basically a person who has transformed into a different person in a year in a positive way is braindead. Makes total sense. Not!

 

[Dahaarkan]

We are Pagan.

There is a difference between being Pagan and an Zevism.

Too bad my critics you're referring to are all braindead.

interesting

 

[Seby]

And I think that Dahaarkan was being a little more harsh than he really needed to be about it. I believe that there is no reason to be mean to Top of the Abyss, or to be that harsh with him. It's not going to accomplish anything anyway. It's just better to not say anything to him, than to try to argue. Because it's not going to get anywhere with him.

Say your opinion, say your perspective. But if he is disagreeing with you and he is going to pretend that you never said anything that you just said, then just ignore him.

The reason to be harsh is his obnoxious arrogant attitude is disrespectful to other members and should not be tolerated. Disregarding everything that everyone says as if they are idiots is very disrespectful. Which should this creature have a free pass to disrespect everyone in this passive aggressive manner?

No, this behavior needs to be addressed and pointed out. And as there is no room for reasonable discussion with this person (I have tried before) all you can do is put it bluntly how petty and absurd he is to discourage this behavior on others.

I'm not arrogant, I'm calling idiots like you out. You clearly lack comprehension so it's useless to try to make you understand.

 

[Henu the Great]

Just escape categories altogether and say you're not religious. Easy.

I practically suggested this on my earlier post, but the argumentation that ensued got that message kind of lost.

You can say you have not thought much about it, for example. That it's something you don't know about or don't care about. You could say you are an atheist, or even lie about being a xian. It all depends who and when you are talking to. Obviously it's not good to tell ten different persons ten different things, so stay consistent with the story you make about that so that it will not backfire on you.

 

[User47826193]

that was just a conclusion to a critique. A critique which was not in depth because you have proven to be incapable of understanding.

Even if you think he is incapable of understanding you should still redress your grievances in depth because debate isn’t for you and him, it’s for the onlookers.

I doubt you think that you can change his mind and that he can change yours, but everyone else seeing this can take it in and form their own thoughts. That’s why people have discussions. Some may even take your side!

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Top of the Abyss's reaction every single time anyone disagrees with him about anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU-By7VF_KU

 

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

But to say that Dahaarkan didn't provide a single refutation, and to simply declare what he said to be false, how can you honestly say that when in your very same post, you quoted his specific responses to your points combined with his reasoning?

This is an entirely normal response from him, and that is the way he reacts every time he disagrees with somebody about anything. It doesn't matter how many pages of evidence the other person writes, he just ignores all of it and claims that they never said anything. You can write a whole essay of examples and evidence, and he just says you have given no evidence of anything.

Honestly just better to not reply to him. There is no way to change his mind away from whatever he decides he wants to believe. If you show him any evidence of anything else, he will just pretend that there's nothing there.

I did know about this, but there was still that part of me from having answered Top's posts before that wanted to encourage discussion - and sure enough, his responses to me were fine responses in and of themselves, in regards to presentation and ability for the other party to reply. But, I feel just as well that there's no real purpose in continuing. I generally abstain from inserting myself into conflicts even if I feel like I've something to add because I get the general impression that Satanists will manage to figure shit out eventually and can glean something positive from their online arguments - even if the argument isn't fun at the time.

The other thing too, as has already been noted, is that there's an audience observing every interaction on the forums. A "court of public opinion." We can discuss all day whether this court of public opinion is right on its assessment of this member or that member, but the fact remains that everyone is subjected to this court's assessments, and our actions here will always color its perspective and its willingness to hear and accept our ideas. It can only be hoped, then, that a person with a genuine interest in promoting truthful ideas - but flounders in their ability to promote them - will endure the consequences of their inability and use these consequences to build upon themselves. And if they don't, if they persist until their final days that they were always correct and everyone else was simply too stupid to accept it, well, c'est la vie.