Regarding the pain and sufferings of life

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

Its fine. Women are just naturally much more emotional than men so you kind of automatically expect this kind of reaction. Only when there a presence of a man who they admire and respect and more importantly trust to lead them ,will they ever back off from their points. Its somewhat hilarious seeing it though. Kind of also explains why Women overwhelming support Leftist Politics which promises mass handouts and Utopia ,which Men overwhelmingly support Far Right Viewpoints about Supremacy of the one who deserves the accolades.

I wasn't aware Phi3 is a female, although it doesn't chance much but my agreement that a softer lense should be applied by the female element in life. It is not needed for a female to know and inspect the depth of the world's misery, rather protect others from this in other spiritual and emotional ways and by guidance. With that said, Phi3, regardless of my guru spirit, seek to think how you can avoid these ugly things such as suffering away from your loved ones and people you care for. I think you can be able to do this by allowing yourself to see things constructively and not be cutting or harsh. I saw that you are combative and this can suit you by changes of perspective. We all want to relate to the truth of the matters and the path of doing things properly, sometimes this happens in a lot of time. Suffering and other existential questions when approached like that and not practically, are to be done "lifelongly" and not decided in couple discussions.

 

[phi3.14infinity]

I understand exactly what you're trying to say. Those incarnations... the broken or lost people.

The universe can be very unforgiving, yet this is mostly the result of cause and effect and several lifetimes of negative karma.

I feel you brother. 700,000 people commit suicide per year. The are wars, famines, stillbirths, disease and other unsightly things that occur to those who had no choice in those matters.

Once I saw a pigeon trapped on a rafter with spikes. The poor thing was flapping to get away but it was stuck in a tight corner between the rafter, wall and ceiling. Again, cause and effect.

I told myself recently that I need to just say 'fuck you world, I will commit to my path and work towards making my next life better, along with everyone else, even if we live in a world of literal shit".

I no longer care that it's painful and difficult. Think about riding a bike; starting off is very hard, but once you get going it becomes easier and easier.

Please do not give into despair. I've been in that place most of my life and I've seen where it takes people. We are all capable of so much more than we realize, always. This is the path of the Zevist - realizing your unlimited potential.


In spite of all these terrible things in the world, just think how life fights to survive? Think about the countless ways they've been trying to depopulate us for many decades without success. This is the nature of life - fighting to survive against all odds. Fighting to the last breath without fear or uncertainty. This is the path of the warrior and it's one few can embrace fully.

I want you to consider how amazing people are even with life-debilitating problems. I've had such problems my entire life but Zeus didn't care - he has appeared to me several times with a warmth and love that penetrated my very being.

Once I was so angry and depressed with myself that I was ready to cut myself very badly just to release those emotions. Out of desperation and without thinking I said to myself "Zeus, what can I do?"
Instantly I felt an embrace from behind me. It's very hard to explain... imagine a hug that has all those feelings and sensations, only you don't actually feel it 'physically'.

My depression vanished out of nowhere and I forgot why I was so upset. My mind just went to the 'here and now'. It honestly brought me to tears.



So please, don't give up. The things you focus on are things that cannot be fully known or understood. I have faith that our Gods look after those souls who aren't given a fighting chance and I'm sure that they get a far better on in their next life.


Consider this video -

A young Autistic woman who was non-verbal her entire life was able to immediately start making conversations with the use of a tablet. Nature finds a way. It compensates for what is lost, be it in this life or another. Think of how people who lose one of their senses experienced heightened senses. These are things beyond the scope of our physical understanding and it is a true testament to Zeus's power and divinity in creating us.

You are very right .if one suffers it obviously means extreme karma of previous lifetimes...Now again please I never meant that one needs to be a crybaby crying and complaining ..My entire post is about destroying all negative karma which is the root cause of all suffer.workinh really to obliterate all your negative karma ..That is what this entire post is about

 

[phi3.14infinity]

Actually this is a statement a lot of people here would do well to remember.

There are a lot of people who would hear of what you did as a child with the hot oil and then write you off forever.

These Yehuborim formulas people come here with for 'living a perfect moral life requires x, y and z while never making any type of mistake or experiencing or doing nasty things', based off of averages and medians of Yehuborim studies, ignore the influence of fate. They also poison members into not even living their lives or being stuck in a cycle of guilt: resulting in a greater evil, that is, IGNORANCE OF LIFE, than making the mistake in the first place.

No higher level member here has avoided suffering. If you really want, phi, you can download the archives and list off what HPS Pythia experienced in her own life via her own allusions. The hyper-judgemental Pluto in Sagittarius kids who show up here might find it shocking. This was not some 1950s picket fence existence. She didn't come out "perfect" with everyone kissing her ass. She had to fight for everything.

If she hadn't, such as being a mother in circumstances "less than optimal" and "((designation: worthless))" according to six million sociological Yehubor studies and Yehubor moral maxims, would she have had the patience to deal with us and nurture us? These questions are worth pondering.

The bug eyed assholes and the scum they serve are a big focus of attention on the ToZ. But what's the one characteristic of the bug eyed asshole? Oh yeah, it has no operant will. It only has a 'design for life', free from making mistakes. All pain is gone... they are all equal

The ultimate sin of our religion is ignorance.

Phi does have a point in regard to what HPS Pythia said concerning a child who was born with a particularly nasty Saturn in 1st House. This child was raped and beaten to death by their parents. A buddhist asshole would claim this child suffered because they stepped on a bug in a previous lifetime or were some sort of rapist themselves. This is what HPS Pythia railed against thinking, as it is inhuman to say the least of it.

While most problems we experience, particularly as adults, can be confronted and arise from ignorance or distance from the Gods, there is definitely wanton stupidity in this world, things that render a few people to dust. Other things are just totally out of control, like atom bombs or things like this. These can even be just vile to countenance, even in a "wouldn't want that to happen to me" way. The boundary line of where people think that begin and ends is up to interpretation.

Karnonnos loved your reply as usual ..Good people suffer because they have carried the victim status ,hang ups,traumas all with them into this life ..My natal chart is very extremely bad ...I have suffered horribly in many ways .When asked a Hindu or a Buddhist they spew out the same garbage .." you did evil so you suffer" ..This blaming victim is what enemy programmes can do ..The point here is to work out so much spiritually that we never go through ocean of suffering ...

 

[phi3.14infinity]

I wasn't aware Phi3 is a female, although it doesn't chance much but my agreement that a softer lense should be applied by the female element in life. It is not needed for a female to know and inspect the depth of the world's misery, rather protect others from this in other spiritual and emotional ways and by guidance. With that said, Phi3, regardless of my guru spirit, seek to think how you can avoid these ugly things such as suffering away from your loved ones and people you care for. I think you can be able to do this by allowing yourself to see things constructively and not be cutting or harsh. I saw that you are combative and this can suit you by changes of perspective. We all want to relate to the truth of the matters and the path of doing things properly, sometimes this happens in a lot of time. Suffering and other existential questions when approached like that and not practically, are to be done "lifelongly" and not decided in couple discussions.

I have blocked general Yeager ..How even could he see my post ..Admin please make sure that general Yeager never has any access to any of my post .

 

[sublimesatanist]

You are very right .if one suffers it obviously means extreme karma of previous lifetimes...Now again please I never meant that one needs to be a crybaby crying and complaining ..My entire post is about destroying all negative karma which is the root cause of all suffer.workinh really to obliterate all your negative karma ..That is what this entire post is about

Nothing would exist without negativity and therefore those things are neutral. They aren't inherently bad or good, they just are. We say they are bad because they create negative outcomes, yet nothing is ever 100% truly negative or bad as there's always something positive that can come out of it. Two negatives make a positive for instance... there is no such thing as pure 100% negative in this world unless you're talking about the enemy. Most of us don't see that aspect simply because we've been cut-off from true spirituality.

Those actions occur overtime, yet one who is a victim to them has a choice. They can fight for the Gods and what it true, or they can allow that karma to destroy them. The Gods will bless those who fight, even when they aren't able to do much in their situation. Zevism focuses more about the effort we put in and less about the results we get. This is because that effort eventually pays off, be it in this incarnation or the next. If you climb out of a hole and get back to level ground you will still have achieved great things, whereas someone who starts and remains on level gound achieves nothing.

Most of the negative karma in the world is not from past lives. It comes from everywhere around us all the time. Consider the ETs that have been draining the earth's energies with it's negative thoughtforms via religion and large masses of people putting their energy into said thoughtforms. This is the biggest reason bad things happen to innocent people and that is the reason we choose to fight it against all odds.

 

[phi3.14infinity]

Desire being "suffering" is science. The proper word is pain, and how your body processes pain from a punch is similar to how your brain processes desire for an ice cream. It is not a philosophy statement, but a statement on how the dual nature of existence works.

In order for something to be motioned, for an action to be taken and for change to happen, it must come from two sides: Inspiration, Harmony, Constructive things or from fear, pain, suffering. Life and progress combines both, and the goal is to reach towards the higher existence, obviously away from the negative elements. From this you "rebel" against "death".

When you don't have something you desire, you might have a revelation right now, you will experience sentiments that are treated by your body as pain, even if your consciousness sees this as a tool of motion. Desire is very good in my opinion. It is how our life works.

A desire that is not real but on the side of not being pain and also not manifested, is called a delusion.

Buddists corruption is about removing desire, so that they are removed from existence on this plane. The true message here is one has to manage their desire, complete them and use them as instruments. Ultimately the mechanism behind this is real but misappropriated by dumb minds and lack of spiritual ability.

Could you please check your message folder brother please

 

[phi3.14infinity]

Nothing would exist without negativity and therefore those things are neutral. They aren't inherently bad or good, they just are. We say they are bad because they create negative outcomes, yet nothing is ever 100% truly negative or bad as there's always something positive that can come out of it. Two negatives make a positive for instance... there is no such thing as pure 100% negative in this world unless you're talking about the enemy. Most of us don't see that aspect simply because we've been cut-off from true spirituality.

Those actions occur overtime, yet one who is a victim to them has a choice. They can fight for the Gods and what it true, or they can allow that karma to destroy them. The Gods will bless those who fight, even when they aren't able to do much in their situation. Zevism focuses more about the effort we put in and less about the results we get. This is because that effort eventually pays off, be it in this incarnation or the next. If you climb out of a hole and get back to level ground you will still have achieved great things, whereas someone who starts and remains on level gound achieves nothing.

Most of the negative karma in the world is not from past lives. It comes from everywhere around us all the time. Consider the ETs that have been draining the earth's energies with it's negative thoughtforms via religion and large masses of people putting their energy into said thoughtforms. This is the biggest reason bad things happen to innocent people and that is the reason we choose to fight it against all odds.

Exactly you are 100 percent right ..I too believe most of the sufferings do not come from past life ..They come from excessive Yehuborim curses ..However I NEVER endorsed victimhood status ..I am saying one must do all sort of spiritual workout to obliterate and avoid suffering

 

[sublimesatanist]

Exactly you are 100 percent right ..I too believe most of the sufferings do not come from past life ..They come from excessive Yehuborim curses ..However I NEVER endorsed victimhood status ..I am saying one must do all sort of spiritual workout to obliterate and avoid suffering

I see now, sorry for confusing your words. You make a great point about avoiding suffering. It's good to experience some pain/discomfort because that's a part of growth, yet suffering indeed isn't. Albeit we can learn lessons from serious suffering, it is best indeed to be wise and seek to evade these situations in the first place as much as possible.

It's sad to me that people today create their own suffering, largely through social media and comparing themselves to each other. In my mind, every human is a beautiful and divine creation with unlimited potential and opportunity. I gave up all that social media crap long ago because 1.) it's a waste of time and 2.) it's highly addictive.

Studies show that the raise in dopamine people get when they receive a 'like' is around 400%! (A little less than cocaine). We also know how those companies make their products as addictive as possible. FBI-book also creates a delayed and cascaded feed of new posts. (Eg. if I post a photo, my best friend might see it right away but my grandma might not see it until tomorrow or whatever. This makes us check our phone more).

For that reason even I gave up using a smartphone because of that. I might use a laptop, but for some reason I tend think of cellphones as this very evil thing, not to mention the burst of EMF radiation they emit when a call is answered. For this reason all cellphone manufacturers are required to have warnings in their TOS and to recommend speaker-phone (or a headset) only. I'm a little 'extra' that way I guess... :-/