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Pan_Shaman

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Greetings everyone.

So yeah, I have this thing I feel for like, 9 years now since I joined satanism.

Ok, I just have to say i did it just so you can understand how things aren't linear.

I have read over all these years about members advancing, talking to their GD etc. etc.

I m not advanced at all. I don't know why, maybe cause I am bipolar and had manias and depressions and w/e, I have advanced a lot in my mindset and in the knowledge pool and how I see the world, however I have no idea what is it to have a kundallini haha.. No really, I haven't met any Daemon/God. I find it hard to even feel my aura and I ve been doing daily meditations whole 9 years now, I dont even know If I have soul blockages, I 've done every single rtr there is, done cleaning for 9 whole damn years, yet nothing.

I don't do drugs, I don't drink, I haven't really been a drunkard or had any marijuana after joining satanism/Jevism, I haven't even had a weird life, like, being uncivil , etc. No, not really, It's just I don't understand how people advance and I don't. Like, is it because i'm Manic/Depressive? Cause I take pills for the past 15 years? Like, they can un stimulate your Kundallini? And don't start me with pills and how they harm you, what I don't understand is, am I so unpure that I can't advance?

Or am I too earthen? I don't know, like , I see new members here all the time and I can't understand how they can advance so much and so fast and I cannot. It pisses me off you know? It's frustrating beyond understanding and apparently there's nothing I can do since I can't quit pills or the gods don't want to pay attention to me no matter how hard I tried, trust me, it's 9 years, it's a lot of time.

I Fucking Hate it.
 
Greetings everyone.

So yeah, I have this thing I feel for like, 9 years now since I joined satanism.

Ok, I just have to say i did it just so you can understand how things aren't linear.

I have read over all these years about members advancing, talking to their GD etc. etc.

I m not advanced at all. I don't know why, maybe cause I am bipolar and had manias and depressions and w/e, I have advanced a lot in my mindset and in the knowledge pool and how I see the world, however I have no idea what is it to have a kundallini haha.. No really, I haven't met any Daemon/God. I find it hard to even feel my aura and I ve been doing daily meditations whole 9 years now, I dont even know If I have soul blockages, I 've done every single rtr there is, done cleaning for 9 whole damn years, yet nothing.

I don't do drugs, I don't drink, I haven't really been a drunkard or had any marijuana after joining satanism/Jevism, I haven't even had a weird life, like, being uncivil , etc. No, not really, It's just I don't understand how people advance and I don't. Like, is it because i'm Manic/Depressive? Cause I take pills for the past 15 years? Like, they can un stimulate your Kundallini? And don't start me with pills and how they harm you, what I don't understand is, am I so unpure that I can't advance?

Or am I too earthen? I don't know, like , I see new members here all the time and I can't understand how they can advance so much and so fast and I cannot. It pisses me off you know? It's frustrating beyond understanding and apparently there's nothing I can do since I can't quit pills or the gods don't want to pay attention to me no matter how hard I tried, trust me, it's 9 years, it's a lot of time.

I Fucking Hate it.

Tell me about your path and your daily meditation schedule. How did you structure it also and for how long. Also what do you do in your concrete material life.
 
I have advanced a lot in my mindset and in the knowledge pool and how I see the world
I don't see how that fits into:
yet nothing

And if you have advanced in knowledge you should know what kundalini is. Everyone has it and with spiritual practice it can be awakened and raised.
Perhaps try doing more physical things like asanas and running. It can really help with the meditation since it relaxes you afterwards. I read HPS Maxine ran about 20 miles per week.
I run about 10 miles per week, go through a program of asanas at least once a week and also go to a gym at least once a week.

Regarding meditation; perhaps try using some aid in form of calming music and/or focusing on a burning candle flame.
Nothing is for free and meditation demands high concentration for a long time in order to get you into a trance state.
Gopi Krishna (who raised his kundalini completely) meditated 3 hours a day for 17 years. I don't know how long your sessions of meditations are, but expect them to be longer than 30 minutes or so if you want to go into full trance. It's hard. So is life. It's a struggle. But with true spiritual advancement it will become way easier, and also more joyful.
Well that's all I can say.
 
Tell me about your path and your daily meditation schedule. How did you structure it also and for how long. Also what do you do in your concrete material life.
These are good questions.
 
Greetings everyone.

So yeah, I have this thing I feel for like, 9 years now since I joined satanism.

Ok, I just have to say i did it just so you can understand how things aren't linear.

I have read over all these years about members advancing, talking to their GD etc. etc.

I m not advanced at all. I don't know why, maybe cause I am bipolar and had manias and depressions and w/e, I have advanced a lot in my mindset and in the knowledge pool and how I see the world, however I have no idea what is it to have a kundallini haha.. No really, I haven't met any Daemon/God. I find it hard to even feel my aura and I ve been doing daily meditations whole 9 years now, I dont even know If I have soul blockages, I 've done every single rtr there is, done cleaning for 9 whole damn years, yet nothing.

I don't do drugs, I don't drink, I haven't really been a drunkard or had any marijuana after joining satanism/Jevism, I haven't even had a weird life, like, being uncivil , etc. No, not really, It's just I don't understand how people advance and I don't. Like, is it because i'm Manic/Depressive? Cause I take pills for the past 15 years? Like, they can un stimulate your Kundallini? And don't start me with pills and how they harm you, what I don't understand is, am I so unpure that I can't advance?

Or am I too earthen? I don't know, like , I see new members here all the time and I can't understand how they can advance so much and so fast and I cannot. It pisses me off you know? It's frustrating beyond understanding and apparently there's nothing I can do since I can't quit pills or the gods don't want to pay attention to me no matter how hard I tried, trust me, it's 9 years, it's a lot of time.

I Fucking Hate it.
I have a similar experience, but my problem has been with consistency.

If you’re doing meditations daily surely you’ll notice? What is your spiritual advancement program?

Advancing is like going to the gym, you’ll need progressive overload to advance. If you’ve been lifting the same weights for 9 years you’ll stay on the same level for 9 years. That’s really the only way you can’t see results.

For me even three months of rock solid dedication have basic profound effects and I start to shine the talents inside me.

However a chaotic life and mind have left me often tumbling any progress.

Regarding you having bipolar, I would consult both High Priest and your doctor regarding medication. One thing you should know is meditation + yoga heal you from inside out and many ailments should disappear even seeming miraculously.
 
Tell me about your path and your daily meditation schedule. How did you structure it also and for how long. Also what do you do in your concrete material life.
I ll just point out the fact that pre my huge manic episodes in 2020 and in 2021 i was meditating daily for 4 years and it climaxed with workings yoga and casual meditation for around 2-3 hrs a day. Now that I look back into that era i didnt have any success with kundalini or with connecting wth the gods.

Right now, after a 4yr struggle with depression, manic atacks etc. I cant say i m in the best shape, damnit, i lost hair even xD and i m a bit more plump.

I daily do, well, ok, the past 2-3 months
AoC, AoP, Void (well at least ny void meditation is okayish ), raum neditation, suryah, hatha yoga however, like before, i can't seem to feel energies, aura, chakras, or the gods and all the good things that meditation offers.

It's like, i feel heavy and hard to uplift myself, i dont even know how much help i asked for the past years from the gods until i eventually gave up.

I dont know maybe i should have been more vocal all these years and asked for support from you guys and the rest people in the forum. I m trying to get back in track right now and i joined outreach again (after being kicked out due to innactivity).

I am a civil engineer, i worked in plenty places nd i play music quite a lot. And couple gaming hours. I quit my job to pursue another carrer but i returned again cause it sucked (cooking career, good luck with that) and well, i m broke and live with my dad. I guess sometimes you dont get what you want in life.

The hilarious thins is, after reaching bottom, somehow i have hope for the future, lol. I was also excited about the transformation of the jos into ToZ, dunno, maybe that perked me up a bit.

Other than that, I guess I should be more vocal
 
Want to add that I'm not claiming myself to be super advanced myself.

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No. I let others be the judge on that.

I do feel like I have gotten enormous benefits from all my kundalini yoga practice, meditations etc. though.
So I would advice to continue and also try doing more physical things like asanas.

I have a younger brother who is bipolar and have suffered from deep depression, even gone into hospital for it with ECT treatment, lithium and all that.
Have tried talking to him (and others) about meditation and yoga but it's basically like talking into a wall with people in general.
You are not a wall since you are here, so hope exists.
 
I have a similar experience, but my problem has been with consistency.

If you’re doing meditations daily surely you’ll notice? What is your spiritual advancement program?

Advancing is like going to the gym, you’ll need progressive overload to advance. If you’ve been lifting the same weights for 9 years you’ll stay on the same level for 9 years. That’s really the only way you can’t see results.

For me even three months of rock solid dedication have basic profound effects and I start to shine the talents inside me.

However a chaotic life and mind have left me often tumbling any progress.

Regarding you having bipolar, I would consult both High Priest and your doctor regarding medication. One thing you should know is meditation + yoga heal you from inside out and many ailments should disappear even seeming miraculously.


I hope so brother. What type of chaos is there in your life? Yes i have consulted in the past.

I guess having a lack of faith and doubts is what kept me from advancing as well.

However, like i said i do have hope now and i all I have to do is have more faith, hope, and believe in the power of meditations.
Want to add that I'm not claiming myself to be super advanced myself.

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No. I let others be the judge on that.

I do feel like I have gotten enormous benefits from all my kundalini yoga practice, meditations etc. though.
So I would advice to continue and also try doing more physical things like asanas.

I have a younger brother who is bipolar and have suffered from deep depression, even gone into hospital for it with ECT treatment, lithium and all that.
Have tried talking to him (and others) about meditation and yoga but it's basically like talking into a wall with people in general.
You are not a wall since you are here, so hope exists.
That is really sad. I have been hospitalized as well, believe me, its the worse thing someone can experience out there (imagine, i was chained into a bed for 4 days).

I have exactly the same problem talking to people about spirituallity and satanism, i m in the proccess of quiting trying to force the horse to drink the water. Its beyond tiring and fruitless.

Yes, hope exists, that is true! 🙏🏻
 
That is really sad. I have been hospitalized as well, believe me, its the worse thing someone can experience out there (imagine, i was chained into a bed for 4 days).

I have exactly the same problem talking to people about spirituallity and satanism, i m in the proccess of quiting trying to force the horse to drink the water. Its beyond tiring and fruitless.

Yes, hope exists, that is true! 🙏🏻
Yes it's sad, but he seems way better now. He hits the gym on a regular basis and have things to do on his days. He does not work though and is an early retiree.

He is a very talented painter I think, and could definitely live on that talent or what would you say?:

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I don't think he realizes his talent at all. Doesn't even want a website for it to show people anymore (?) Took it down years ago. But I'll show it here damnit.
Heard an interesting thing once about deep depression - that it can have to do with fear of inner potential.
That is for others to fear.
 
Yes it's sad, but he seems way better now. He hits the gym on a regular basis and have things to do on his days. He does not work though and is an early retiree.

He is a very talented painter I think, and could definitely live on that talent or what would you say?:

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I don't think he realizes his talent at all. Doesn't even want a website for it to show people anymore (?) Took it down years ago. But I'll show it here damnit.
Heard an interesting thing once about deep depression - that it can have to do with fear of inner potential.
That is for others to fear.
Your brother would be a fitting artist among us, too bad it seems it is too early for him at this point.
 
Your brother would be a fitting artist among us, too bad it seems it is too early for him at this point.
Yes he would. I've told him many times about ToZ (back then JoS) and specifically about how certain yoga asanas counteract depression:
Poses like Cobra (Bhujangasana), Bridge (Setu Bandhasana), and Camel (Ustrasana) open the chest and heart area. These poses are believed to counteract the physical manifestations of depression, such as slouched posture and shallow breathing.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/life...bends:,slouched posture and shallow breathing.

He once asked me later on: which asana was that again? But never tried it out later on regardless. That's how people often are basically you know.
Doing that "mysterious yoga thing" is too far fetched somehow for many, especially guys I think. More common for women to practice yoga somehow.
So dudes think it's "gay" or something. Would probably never myself have practiced any yoga without ToZ, which I've mentioned before many times here.
 
A good posture and oxygenated cells are cornerstones in overcoming depression, I agree. Frankly, I have first hand experience. So it's not just common sense talking.
He once asked me later on: which asana was that again? But never tried it out later on regardless. That's how people often are basically you know. Doing that "mysterious yoga thing" is too far fetched somehow for many, especially guys I think. More common for women to practice yoga somehow. So dudes think it's "gay" or something. Would probably never myself have practiced any yoga without ToZ, which I've mentioned before many times here.
There seems to be a certain stage for the soul to be in where they need to actively practice asanas without necessarily being initiated in the Path, you know the active yoga class types, and in many cases class teachers, and then there are the esoteric and occult enthusiasts including us, the deepest of them all. Unfortunately, I think asanas are a blessing outside of the realm of experience for most others, other than maybe as an observer. We are literally chosen, so I think with this in mind it becomes easier to understand why people struggle so much regarding introduction to asanas. I used to struggle as well, not being able to find meaning behind a stable yoga routine before finding JoS, but since then it became almost like second nature.
 
I ll just point out the fact that pre my huge manic episodes in 2020 and in 2021 i was meditating daily for 4 years and it climaxed with workings yoga and casual meditation for around 2-3 hrs a day. Now that I look back into that era i didnt have any success with kundalini or with connecting wth the gods.

Right now, after a 4yr struggle with depression, manic atacks etc. I cant say i m in the best shape, damnit, i lost hair even xD and i m a bit more plump.

I daily do, well, ok, the past 2-3 months
AoC, AoP, Void (well at least ny void meditation is okayish ), raum neditation, suryah, hatha yoga however, like before, i can't seem to feel energies, aura, chakras, or the gods and all the good things that meditation offers.

It's like, i feel heavy and hard to uplift myself, i dont even know how much help i asked for the past years from the gods until i eventually gave up.

I dont know maybe i should have been more vocal all these years and asked for support from you guys and the rest people in the forum. I m trying to get back in track right now and i joined outreach again (after being kicked out due to innactivity).

I am a civil engineer, i worked in plenty places nd i play music quite a lot. And couple gaming hours. I quit my job to pursue another carrer but i returned again cause it sucked (cooking career, good luck with that) and well, i m broke and live with my dad. I guess sometimes you dont get what you want in life.

The hilarious thins is, after reaching bottom, somehow i have hope for the future, lol. I was also excited about the transformation of the jos into ToZ, dunno, maybe that perked me up a bit.

Other than that, I guess I should be more vocal

Maintain aura cleansing, aura protection and emptiness meditation.

I suggest you remove the RAUM meditation. It is advanced for now. Just as I don't think SURYA is needed per se.

Do this after hatha yoga if you like:

Also add some chakra work. Based primarily on this page. The work applies to all seven major chakras, including the third eye. If you have already opened them successfully, you can do Third Eye + the 7 chakras to open them additionally and strengthen them further. (Use empowering statements such as, "My X chakra is being developed in a positive way for me," etc.).

Now, to better feel the energy and really have it in the anim, consider these three meditations, in this order possibly:

1)

2)

3)

Here, too, you should make energy-increasing statements in a positive way.

After the meditative session is over, take 5 breaths of this if you really feel like doing something to meditate on further on energy sensitivity:

As for your life with your father; that's fine. You are not a failure. Keep getting help and be glad that he is helping you.

See if that can help your manic episodes:
Black is great for Void meditation. You don't even have to invoke it, just visualize it all around you like nothing else exists, you're in a black void, and do void meditation. This is very calming for the mind.

*****This above was a basic guide that you can adapt according to what you feel is your case.
 
I 've done every single rtr there is

You could try my interactive version of the RTR (1st part):

xlnt Interactive Final RTR - Download link

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The destroying of the letters should also be combined with strongly visualizing them being destroyed for real.

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Maintain aura cleansing, aura protection and emptiness meditation.

I suggest you remove the RAUM meditation. It is advanced for now. Just as I don't think SURYA is needed per se.

Do this after hatha yoga if you like:

Also add some chakra work. Based primarily on this page. The work applies to all seven major chakras, including the third eye. If you have already opened them successfully, you can do Third Eye + the 7 chakras to open them additionally and strengthen them further. (Use empowering statements such as, "My X chakra is being developed in a positive way for me," etc.).

Now, to better feel the energy and really have it in the anim, consider these three meditations, in this order possibly:

1)

2)

3)

Here, too, you should make energy-increasing statements in a positive way.

After the meditative session is over, take 5 breaths of this if you really feel like doing something to meditate on further on energy sensitivity:

As for your life with your father; that's fine. You are not a failure. Keep getting help and be glad that he is helping you.

See if that can help your manic episodes:


*****This above was a basic guide that you can adapt according to what you feel is your case.
Wow thats a lot of intel thank you!

I have recently started opening the soul again so i guess thats a good thing.

I can confirm yoga makes you feel more stable from my experience and it does empower in generally. Never thought of adding black into void so thats a great hint.

Yes it's sad, but he seems way better now. He hits the gym on a regular basis and have things to do on his days. He does not work though and is an early retiree.

He is a very talented painter I think, and could definitely live on that talent or what would you say?:

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I don't think he realizes his talent at all. Doesn't even want a website for it to show people anymore (?) Took it down years ago. But I'll show it here damnit.
Heard an interesting thing once about deep depression - that it can have to do with fear of inner potential.
That is for others to fear.
This is great work btw. Its hard to encourage a depressed person cause they often withdraw. Does he do any therapy? I dont know, i was on anti depressesants for a couple years (well i take mainly anti psychotic and stabilizing drugs) until i was ok, what helped me was that i had a demanding job and i eventually had to toughen up a bit and it worked for my chronic depression in a sesne.

Maybe suggest some proper therapy to him? Since he cant meditate and all and find strength in his own.

Does he have any mania as well? What are the drugs he's taking right now? I was into anti manic drugs/ anti psychotic and stabilizers. Right now i m into a drug which is good for bipolar depression and also anti psychotic and stabilizers. If you want more intel you can pm me.
 
This is great work btw. Its hard to encourage a depressed person cause they often withdraw. Does he do any therapy? I dont know, i was on anti depressesants for a couple years (well i take mainly anti psychotic and stabilizing drugs) until i was ok, what helped me was that i had a demanding job and i eventually had to toughen up a bit and it worked for my chronic depression in a sesne.

Maybe suggest some proper therapy to him? Since he cant meditate and all and find strength in his own.

Does he have any mania as well? What are the drugs he's taking right now? I was into anti manic drugs/ anti psychotic and stabilizers. Right now i m into a drug which is good for bipolar depression and also anti psychotic and stabilizers. If you want more intel you can pm me.

I don't think he goes to any therapist at the moment, but he does take medicine. Don't know which ones exactly.

He has a history of both drinking alcohol to the point of becoming alcoholic and worst of all taking amphetamine.
That Truly is a shit drug that's good for exactly nothing other than becoming an hyperactive insomniac who doesn't eat. And feeling really really depressed and sad afterwards.

I suspect that he's maniac periods and depressive periods can have something to do with that drug, and alcohol. Combined not least.
So it's good that he is completely away from that nasty shit and the nasty lowlifes who introduced it in the first place.

I too have some history with drugs (weed and cocaine) because of hanging around lowlife people.
I may have been stupid enough to take some of it but I'm not stupid enough to become a complete junkie. I may have shortened my life a bit though.

ToZ and it's knowledge of self-improvement is all you need. All you need is not "love". It's ToZ's knowledge.
The lack of that knowledge is one major reason people do drugs - since they don't know any better. It's either drugs, games, movies or some other entertainment.

One example I've brought up here before was how Gopi Krishna described it as endlessly fascinating to simply look at the stars at night - after his kundalini awakening.
Now I ask: Is looking at the stars enough fun for todays average person? NO. Not even constant TikTok entertainment is enough. That, I mean, is something to think about for a while.

Again - I try to convince other people of what's best for them but it's quickly dismissed. Thus true Joy is missed. Sadly.
 
Adding to my last post: yes, as I quickly mentioned he has had some psychotic maniac episodes.

It first started escalating quickly somehow after him and I was out drinking beer one evening.
I noticed how he started talking a bit incoherent and crazy that evening but did not think much about it. Thought it was the beer, but it was more than that.

Then he did a lot of strange drawings with strange symbols and talked about how he was going to be a Nobel prize winner and this and that.

Soon after, he put himself into hospital for psychiatric treatment.

After he came down from the mania, he became truly depressed. Had to quit his job, which contributed to the depression, and he's been in and out of hospital since then.

Now it's better, and hopefully it will stay that way. But one never knows. The world is crazy enough to make anyone crazy. ToZ is the antidote.

Both him and I are quite alike when it comes to the social life. Not much for being social with everyone all the time and prefer to often be alone.
Not that strange I think though, considering how people in general are these days. Having no friends is better than having shitty fake "friends" who do drugs.

I recently lost a former half iranian friend, or should I say "friend" to drugs, completely.
He was doing so much drugs and making noise etc. that he got evicted. Then later on he ended up beating up his dad to death so he is now in prison for life.
Fucked his life up so much it's a Nobel Fuck Up prize for that one.
 
Yeah that sounds like a typical premanic symptom and it climaxes needing strong pills and hospitalization. And then you jump into depression which can take even years.

I was also into weed a lot before JoS and alcohol took me some time to completely get rid of it.

I agree with what you are saying about people in general. I quit being friends with people who have addicting syndromes like gambling, gaming etc.

I guess its hard being social, i personally have a big social life and am quite open to talking to people in general being an extrovert, which i wish i wasnt some times haha...

I guess i can tell a difference between when i was meditating before and after joining jos/toz. Like, i would do meditations from the site without having dedicated for like a year and it was feeling awkward in a sense, I even felt like i was being attacked once.

I am grateful for JoS/ToZ, it opened my eyes.
 
Yeah that sounds like a typical premanic symptom and it climaxes needing strong pills and hospitalization. And then you jump into depression which can take even years.

I was also into weed a lot before JoS and alcohol took me some time to completely get rid of it.

I agree with what you are saying about people in general. I quit being friends with people who have addicting syndromes like gambling, gaming etc.

I guess its hard being social, i personally have a big social life and am quite open to talking to people in general being an extrovert, which i wish i wasnt some times haha...

I guess i can tell a difference between when i was meditating before and after joining jos/toz. Like, i would do meditations from the site without having dedicated for like a year and it was feeling awkward in a sense, I even felt like i was being attacked once.

I am grateful for JoS/ToZ, it opened my eyes.

Having quit weed and all that junk long ago - I'm quite stunned how I could be into it before. It somehow tricked my mind into believing it was necessary.
What is necessary is 1: to not use it and 2: practice spiritual advancement.

It's the complete lack of knowledge of nr 2 which creates a void for poor souls who try filling that void with drugs instead of spiritual advancement.
Mainstream media basically tells them it's "cool" to do so, and that it's the way to go - just look at how happy that Snoop Dogg is etc. Quite disgusting.

I found out about ToZ (back then JoS) in 2005 and tried meditation for the very first time. Became quite sold on it, and on JoS overall.
HPS Maxine - coolest person ever.

"Snoop Dogg" - :ROFLMAO:
 
Having quit weed and all that junk long ago - I'm quite stunned how I could be into it before. It somehow tricked my mind into believing it was necessary.
What is necessary is 1: to not use it and 2: practice spiritual advancement.

It's the complete lack of knowledge of nr 2 which creates a void for poor souls who try filling that void with drugs instead of spiritual advancement.
Mainstream media basically tells them it's "cool" to do so, and that it's the way to go - just look at how happy that Snoop Dogg is etc. Quite disgusting.

I found out about ToZ (back then JoS) in 2005 and tried meditation for the very first time. Became quite sold on it, and on JoS overall.
HPS Maxine - coolest person ever.

"Snoop Dogg" - :ROFLMAO:

Whats a pity is that most of the amazing musicians of the rock/metal genre were deep into drugs and booze, thats what got me into it along with, "being cool". (Damn, and the music is so solid you know, like, having a lot of classical music elements).

She is, I remember one time i was without meditation and defying satanism some years ago and i heard an audio of her and i was like, so calm you know? I was listening like a kindergarten kid. I resumed meditating right after 😋
 
Whats a pity is that most of the amazing musicians of the rock/metal genre were deep into drugs and booze, thats what got me into it along with, "being cool". (Damn, and the music is so solid you know, like, having a lot of classical music elements).

She is, I remember one time i was without meditation and defying satanism some years ago and i heard an audio of her and i was like, so calm you know? I was listening like a kindergarten kid. I resumed meditating right after 😋
I remember one time when HP Hoodedcobra wrote that he would pay 10.000$ just to have dinner with HPS Maxine.

That was funny.

If you visit my profile here you can see a lot of JoS videos I've made where I've added visuals to her sermons. She started the whole JoS and is the reason for us even talking right now.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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