Re: There have to be limits on how we use magic

[Alec Wynn]

Don't confuse Jewish psychology with power. A lot of power doesn't make you a tyrant. Power comes from spiritual advancement, which endows you with a broader understanding of everything and superior morals and ethics.

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On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 at 3:06 a.m., timtodd31@... [JoyofSatan666]<[email protected] wrote:   I get it that we use black magic to fight against the xtians, but we have to have limits. We should only use it against those who have wronged us. Not their spouse, not their jobs, not their family, just them. If we have unrestrained power, we become tyrants. Corrupt governments around the world are the way they are because of unrestrained power. Call me a troll, call me what ever, there are lines we can't cross. We can't become tyrants.
Is black magic permanent? Can the effects of it ever wear off?

 

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Black magic is for justice, righting wrongs. The anti-Elohim of christianity is unnatural and detrimental Anna's destructive to Pagans. It must be eradicated absolutely, as must it's sibling islam, and their patent root judaism.

Only after judaism and all its off-shoots, and the jew itself, are all destroyed fully and completely can we live properly again.

 

[cand.cru5h3r1]

satanists are free to use their power however they please, you cant control any one of us, and you have no right to draw the uncross-able lines for anyone but yourself.

 

[centurion_666881]

Limitation are NOT a part of Satanism.

 

[a24b842e591f00568ceb6a4c091e16b2]

Responsibility to the responsible. Anyone is free to do what they want and cannot be forced by anyone otherwise. Unrestrained power is not the cause of tyranny. Power is a neutral force. It is when it is directed that things occur. All actions have a reaction, a consequence; positive or negative.

All forms of magic including black magic can either be permanent or temporary. It depends on how it is done.

 

[jonathon_billing]

They are the enemy. They feed the monster. The monster that wants to kill us Satanists, enslave the rest. It is moral to fight for your own survival. There can be no higher value than one's own existence: you need to exist before you can value anything else.
We are not the one's initiating force here, the enemy are. We have a right to defend our lives. If our lives require that low-level/supportive xtians get cursed (or magickally-influenced into attacking their leaders), then so be it.

An example: Let's say in a hypothetical war. The general is psychologically supported by his wife, who did nothing else. She is still a legitimate target. She's supports his killing of the enemy. The victims of the general cannot value the wife's existence, if they don't exist to value in the first place. They have a choice: their existence or weaken the general thru getting her. Force is being used against them, if they want to live, they must target her.

For me it rests on that principle: Am I *initiating* force/fraud? If the answer is no, I have no issues with attacking.

This is a real War for you the Individual to have the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. I hope we win and the Age of Aquarius might then be undreamably beautiful.


Depends on the magick. It can take a lot of energy to give someone a heart attack thru direct force, but if you lined things up, indirectly you could cause them one: thru stress, bad diet, little sleep etc. Now you may only be strong enough to give them heart troubles and if you don't keep up with the energy, reinforcing it everyday, the effect will wear off, other factors remaining unchanged. Entropy does effect energy workings.

So for those Satanists reading this, that feeling you might have of the enemy subtly influencing you, holding you back, so that week after week you are getting further behind what you could have been. That could be true. You do of course need to chill out and live a bit you know, but education, dieting, etc are important. It does mean that after doing it consistently for years, you would be a much stronger person and a bigger threat to them. Try to automate/habitualize things so it's just a part of your lifestyle.

 

[kinghenrythefowler]

Pretty much. We're not communists; we don't believe in hurting peoples' families for something they've done themselves. Punish them as hard as they hurt you and make them realize their mistake.

It actually does say this on the JoS page. Don't listen to people who are just on a war path, the vast, vast majority of us are sane most of the time
When people make you angry focus on the bigger picture

Black magic can be permanent, temporary or can even back-fire. Nothing is really temporary but if you hurt someone really bad, that pain goes into their next life for them to figure out. You could also set someone down the wrong path, but to a point, it is YOUR fault for not having your act together in life.

Satan just fixes everything, removes all curses and removes natural enemies from humanity if we do what he said.

 

[usulmystic]

How many of us have power and can do magic? I am sure some do and can. I can't. I'm just damaged. I totally support the JOS, just can't be spiritual. Don't have the focus. 

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

Everyone here who devotes themselves into meditation practice will get benefits from it and eventually grow powers in accordance to the practice, sooner or later. Some people are born with talent, and like athletics, gifts will come faster, others will have to persists and if they are persistent they will become better than the lazy talented.

All human beings have the ability to develop spiritual power, same as virtually the majority of people can develop athletic skill or any other skill if the practice is done.

Some people are talented and sleep on it, some others want to grow and are resilient, therefore they grow regardless of natural talent. All humans have been given by Satan the ability to spiritually advance. So it's up to people to consider this. Also, spirituality is not some 'addon' to life, it's quite essential. Not advancing spiritually has a backlash imposed on by nature.

Depression and many other things, such as issues stemming from lack of self-understanding can become gigantic if people don't advance spiritually. Not advancing is the same as abstaining from food.

However, undeniably, the philosophy and mindset of the JoS is a no-bullshit approach to life and spirituality, that emphasizes on personal thinking and freedom. Therefore even if someone wants to remain on this level, which is NOT advisable for many reasons, there are still benefits for anyone who wants to be with Satan rather than disturbing and destructive modes of thinking that ruin people mentally.

The above doesn't reduce the necessity of spiritual advancement.

 

[kieithnightmare0]

You need to do void mediation to get better focus. That's the whole point. Don't give up! It takes time. Just be patient with yourself.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html

 

[Little Wolf1]

Your support means nothing if you can't be spiritual. We're here not to talk the talk but by doing. You don't have focus? Learn! You must start somewhere. It's okay if you are a starter and you make mistakes, just try to do meditation everyday, no matter how it takes, I promise you will feel any difference


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On Saturday, September 2, 2017, 7:24 AM, usulmystic@... [JoyofSatan666] <[email protected] wrote:

  How many of us have power and can do magic? I am sure some do and can. I can't. I'm just damaged. I totally support the JOS, just can't be spiritual. Don't have the focus. 

 

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Corrections for my reply above:

anti-religion
detrimental and destructive
their parent root