RE: Sexuality, Relationship Advice, Authoritarianism and the Individual Versus the Collective.

[Sunny]

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My friend was accused of rape by a woman who he refused to marry. She went around the office telling everyone how he got her drunk at his house and raped her (never happened. ) His reputation was permanently tarnished and I walked him through how to get out of the predicament. He got the HR involved who directly confronted her to the point of getting the police involved.

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Thank you for clarifying; I hope your friend is alright now. The same happened before to a friend of my brother. It's honestly terrifying what kind of atrocities people can get away with. I hope that they will all be met with justice in the end, or become better people.

Putting that aside, I'm unable to move past my disappointment for now. I think it's better for us to ignore each other. I'm sorry for bringing you up a lot in my recent points; I just needed to get the things off my chest that I'd been bottling up. I'll leave you be now unless others bring you up and I feel like replying to them. I suppose it's already clear by now, but I'm not looking for issues.

As for what's going to happen in society, I've looked extensively into the effects of covid and the vaccines, including what you mention about blood clots. I've concluded that less than 1% of young adults is going to die within the next several years, from any cause, regardless of whether or not they're vaccinated. As we've both stated, there is no point in further debating this as the outcome of the current situation is literally fact, and it is only a matter of time for it to become apparent. We can discuss it again in a few years.

What can't you overcome?

 

[Sunny]

One question Jack, do you know the origins and genetic characteristics of the Phoenicians?

Im half lebenese who share 95 percent of their DNA with the ancient phonecians so i can answer you.
Beelzebul and Astarte are some of their ancestral Gods. They were a mediterranian white population who also mixed with romans greeks and berbers. (also all medwhites) later some mixed with armenians and european crusaders, and arabs, (the muslims mostly) muslims will try to tell you they are arab..most xtians will say no we are phonecian.https://phoenicia.org/Canaanite-Phoenician-DNA-in-Modern-Lebanese.html

https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-canaanite-lebanese-genetics-20170727-story.html#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20study%20in%20the%20American%20Journal,ancient%20Canaanites%20who%20lived%20nearly%204%2C000%20years%20ago.

they were fairskinned and many had fair hair and eyes ranging to hazel my grandfather from tyre had blue eyes. my grandmother had reddish brown hair and my dad also had a bit of red hair in his beard and hair back in the day.

they come from the ancient canaanites who worshipped red and bloned haired blue eyed Gods. ancient canaan encompasses, lebanon, jordan, palestine and parts of syria. the xitans are mostly white and the marionite xtians specifically are the closest to the canaanites. the xtians especially the roman and latin caltholics have alot of roman and greek blood.
i am not sure about this theory but some say the phonecians originated with celtics, and that even most of aryan civilization comes from the phonecians. the furthark alphabet comes from their alphabet as have many others.
https://phoenicia.org/celts.html#:~:text=Picts%20were%20a%20small%20people%20and%20were%20considered,and%20the%20Phoenicians%20have%20been%20incorrectly%20termed%20Celts.

(quote from the above link)
.......the daring Phoenician pioneers were not "Semites" as hitherto supposed, but were Aryans in Race, Speech and Script. They were, besides, disclosed to be the lineal blood ancestors of the Britons and Scots -- properly so-called, that is, as opposed to the aboriginal, dark Non-Aryan people of Albion, Caledonia, Hibernia, the dusky small-statured Picts and kindred "Iberian" tribes. -- p. vi of "The Phoenician Origin of Britons, Scots and Anglo-Saxons" (1924)

I have cousins from palestine that have haplogroups consistant with vikings. that either comes from crusaders or the ancient phonecians.

https://www.pulseheadlines.com/bible-wrong-ancient-canaanites-survived-dna-lives-modernday-lebanese/65495/

fuck you kikes. we are still here the hurt train is coming too and we are getting Canaan back! ALOT has been lied about and twisted about their history...THEY WERE NOT SEMITES.

ps. the ancient phonecians also used to drown kikes in the harbor in Jaffa

One question Jack, do you know the origins and genetic characteristics of the Phoenicians?

sorry about that i forgot to also add this link in here:
https://marchofthetitans.com/2016/05/28/dna-phoenician/
phonecians have been found to have european DNA. many of their descendants also live on in spain and ibiza.

they were master shipbuilders and wood and metal workers. they ruled the world almost for thousands of years. One of the greatest civilizations in history.

this article was wrote by magesone btw but as Maxine and Cobra moderated pretty much everything he wrote and left what was good and valid, at least as far as i know, i will also leave this here:
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2781&p=16437&hilit=canaanites#p16437

So, the Phoenicians are not Arabs. I noticed this assimilation technique earlier in history and also today.

Britons are Celts, the only Celts left unassimilated and unmixed are the countries not assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons into Britain. The Anglo-Saxons are not Celts but Germanic, you can verify this in their language and other things.

The origin of the Germanic peoples is Sweden. The Scandinavians could also be the ancestors of the Russians but I can't find any information about the origins of the Russians because the jews have corrupted them too much.

The Celts are not native to Europe, their origins are in Asia and the Middle East. Before native and non-native Europeans expanded into Europe, the Celts invaded and occupied much of Europe but were defeated and assimilated by other peoples because they were too divided. Celts and other peoples must learn and not repeat such a mistake. Both division and unity are needed, but wisdom and balance are also needed.

This means that the Phoenicians are Celts. The history the jews speak of regarding the Semites is either a history and culture stolen from the Arabs or it is a jewish invention to infiltrate and exploit the Arabs. The jews will pay for deceiving and enslaving the Arabs, Celts, Romans, Greeks, Germans and other Gentiles.

The Celts are literally among the most beautiful peoples in this world, there is evidence of this from the Romans and the Greeks on the history of the Celts.

Thank you so much for helping me on my Phoenicians research. Please do not expose yourself and keep your privacy.

 

[Sunny]

Thank you for clarifying; I hope your friend is alright now. The same happened before to a friend of my brother. It's honestly terrifying what kind of atrocities people can get away with. I hope that they will all be met with justice in the end, or become better people.

Putting that aside, I'm unable to move past my disappointment for now. I think it's better for us to ignore each other. I'm sorry for bringing you up a lot in my recent points; I just needed to get the things off my chest that I'd been bottling up. I'll leave you be now unless others bring you up and I feel like replying to them. I suppose it's already clear by now, but I'm not looking for issues.

As for what's going to happen in society, I've looked extensively into the effects of covid and the vaccines, including what you mention about blood clots. I've concluded that less than 1% of young adults is going to die within the next several years, from any cause, regardless of whether or not they're vaccinated. As we've both stated, there is no point in further debating this as the outcome of the current situation is literally fact, and it is only a matter of time for it to become apparent. We can discuss it again in a few years.

What can't you overcome?

Are you referring to my inability to move past my disappointment, and that I don't think I can get along well with Jack?
I don't really want to keep dragging this out, so I'll try my best to explain clearly why it's impossible for me to get along with him.

There are several values that I've always held. I could say it's because of my chart, which would be correct, but I don't think that matters here. The point is that these are things that I've fundamentally believed in since my childhood and to this day. For me to change those convictions over a mere disagreement, would be completely unnatural and atrocious. The following are relevant here:

1. Trying to bring innocent people down mentally through intimidation, manipulation and/or bullying is something that I've never been able to tolerate.
2. When someone makes a mistake, that is an opportunity to learn. If the mistake is understood, one should apologise to those that were harmed by it. The inability to admit or show remorse for one's mistakes is something I've never been able to tolerate.
3. Pressuring others to integrate false beliefs is something I've never been able to tolerate.

When I was little and not able to control my emotions well, seeing anything like that pissed me off so much that it caused me to have violent outbursts. I usually kept my composure and only inflicted as much pain as I felt was appropriate as retribution, but sometimes I was so enraged that I went berserk, for example when I beat up five boys my age at once after I saw them harassing a girl from my class and they refused to leave her alone, saying I couldn't stop them. That is not to brag, but to make it clear just how much these things matter to me. Nowadays, I'm able to detach from things and keep my emotions under control much better.

With that in mind, I'll explain in which ways some of Jack's actions are incompatible with those values, causing me to conclude that it's best if I don't interact with him much anymore. Directly interacting with him too much, especially when he is doing things I'm morally incompatible with (which has been often lately), would mean choosing not to detach. NakedPluto helped me realise recently that even just having violent thoughts about someone counts as cursing them; so far I've never had that kind of thought about Jack, but considering how overwhelming my sense of justice can be and that things add up, I really don't want to take any risks here. To think that way about a fellow SS who takes meditation so seriously, is something I would have a very hard time forgiving myself for.

He explained why he decided to mock and insult a teenage girl for being raped. I wasn't expecting him to ever apologise for it, and as I thought, he didn't. His explanation lets me know why he did it, and what he thought he was doing, but that doesn't change his actions. In this case, both what he said to that girl, and his conviction not to apologise for it, are things that I can't look past, because:

• His thoughtless actions hit someone who is in the process of healing from a traumatic experience, where it hurts the most. The things he said are commonly said to rape victims by people who want to instill self-doubt in them in order to manipulate them so that it's easier for people to get away with raping them again. This is incompatible with value 1.
• The extent or lack of ill will doesn't make a difference in his actions after the fact.
• He at least admitted he made a mistake out of ignorance, but then refused to apologise for it. See value 2.

Regarding the debate about love back then: I think it's good that he has changed his stance, or the way he words it, to something more reasonable, at least for his own sake. But that doesn't change that he tried to convince others that they are wrong for believing that love exists. This is incompatible with value 3. I don't really care anymore about what he said about America being some kind of example for the world. The culture is just very different, and I understand why it would be difficult to see that when he doesn't know what it's really like to grow up in Europe. As for his apocalyptic fantasies, I have no issue overlooking that either.

Everyone here is trying to figure out important things in their own ways, so it's common for there to be delusions and misunderstandings here and there. However, calling other people delusional for disagreeing with him is somewhat incompatible with values 1 and 3, although I find it understandable from his point of view so I can overlook it. But it creates a bias in his views that makes it difficult to talk about societal trends in general (which is a topic that he brings up often), because he is going by the assumption that there is going to be a reset soon, and that people like him will seize control of the government and world. But even if I underestimated how different America is from the rest of the world and such a thing actually happened there, this still wouldn't affect the rest of the world as their military would be too unorganised after such a mess to succeed in enacting anything internationally.

For him to believe those things does not directly go against my values. However, it makes it pointless for me to debate such topics with him, as we're on a completely different page about what the future looks like, so any attempt at meaningful discussion would likely devolve into disagremeents on what we both consider to be basic facts.

I take back what I said about his sexual preferences disturbing me. I'm no longer bothered by it, thanks to tabby helping me understand sexual freedom even on an emotional level, meaning I no longer have to put up with a feeling of disgust just to be polite. It was rude of me to bring it up anyway, but it did genuinely bother me until now, so I'm glad I was able to get over that.

Misrepresenting reality (regarding a person or situation) by making far-fetched comparisons can be an effective way to bring people down mentally, while simultaneously manipulating them into integrating incorrect beliefs. This describes the way he worded things when he criticised tabby's and jrvan's relationships and incorrectly assumed that they aren't doing what would make them the happiest (failing to realise just how much their Demon partners have helped both of them, and how happy and fulfilled they are in that arrangement), and is incompatible with values 1 and 3. His attempts to dissuade them from standing up for themselves by incorrectly stating that the only reason they might want to do so is because they agree with him, were also incompatible with values 1 and 3.

He keeps saying he has all these good intentions behind his mistakes, yet he never seems to make any effort to learn from it or apologise if he did anything wrong. He hardly ever even admits it was a mistake. This is incompatible with value 2.

Putting aside the specifics of what he wrote in the thread about sewing, what happened there saddened me a lot. It was going to be such a positive and cheerful thread, mainly for women, to talk about a relaxing hobby and share tips. That's still what happened in-between, but Jack ruined almost everyone's mood by bringing up topics that are irrelevant to most SS, especially women. For him to so heavily pollute a thread that was made with me in mind, by someone I appreciate for always being so friendly, really hurt my feelings.

If perhaps there are people reading from the shadows, looking to villify me in their emails for villifying Jack, then please feel free to mock me for having emotions. I like that more than being mocked for struggling to express them. And it wasn't really my intention to make him seem like a bad person. It's just that I was asked to explain why I'm personally unable to move past this and get along with him. It ended up being a bit long, but at least writing this helped me understand my own morals better, so it's fine.

Anyway, I hope that answers your question. As I explained, his personality is incompatible with my sense of justice; but he is exempt from my righteous wrath by virtue of being SS, meaning there is no healthy outlet. I noticed when I tried to explain in multiple ways to him last year why I'm certain that love exists, that confronting him about anything that we disagree on or that bothers me will only cause both of us to double down, so there is no way to talk things out. As such, it's better to avoid contact.

I understand and agree. Your values are right and good. Don't waste your time and organise your time. Help those who need help and those who want to be helped. Those who do not want to learn cannot move forward and are destined to go backwards.

 

[Shadowcat]

Why did I even bother with this argument? This is stupid, and I should have realized this way earlier. Proof that people are different: https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/VENUS.html











Boom. Argument won. That was so easy.

I put in bold the parts that refute my arguments as well as support them to be fair. Everyone is different.

Ugh. Gemini venus is the worst at least for someone monogamous. They are either closet polys, players/whores or don't know how to emotionally engage. They tend to play with people's feelings yet will accuse you of doing such..I knew one who pumped and dumped someone and I found out much later how he lied about it...another was admitted he'd have to do something to not stray from a partner..sad..these are just a few examples however..and no having alot of water will not offset this esp If they have prominent air as it is.

Gemini venus or any major prominent air in the chart is a deal breaker unless it's libra. To be fair though venus in aries and sagg and Virgo no thanks either..lol.

LMAO :lol: :lol:

I have Venus in Gemini though :lol:

My one air sign too haha

I sensed that but you and tabby are poly yes :3? In you guys case it's all good because youre open and honest about it.

I'm strictly monogamous and can get very jealous and possessive and I'm all or nothing with love.

Perhaps I should have clarified that there can be exceptions but this is unfortunately the general rule I've experienced and heard of first and second hand so far. Like I said for monogamous people I don't think it's ideal. It has just been my experience that gemini venus people who say they want monogamy are being dishonest with themselves and their prospective mates and will at the very least get bored easy because of wanting variety.

This is again fine in principle. But not while claiming to want and pursue monogamy. For the exceptions that are there, great. But all I'm saying is that I'm not going to risk looking for a needle in a haystack.

I have simply noticed patterns of astrological placements that are incompatible with me romantically and not just in venus signs. This also doesn't have to make them fundimentally bad people however. In other words also the more mature people with the venus placements I named may be different. But haven't met them yet :lol:

Honestly venus in any of the water signs is ideal. Mine is as well and both of my parents also have this in common and are water dominant as well. Taurus venus is also up there with libra. Those would be ideal. Aries sun would be alright for me personally as well as long as there isn't too much fire emphasis. Honestly a combination of earth and water in general in the chart with a hint of the rest is great.

 

[Shadowcat]

One question Jack, do you know the origins and genetic characteristics of the Phoenicians?

Im half lebenese who share 95 percent of their DNA with the ancient phonecians so i can answer you.
Beelzebul and Astarte are some of their ancestral Gods. They were a mediterranian white population who also mixed with romans greeks and berbers. (also all medwhites) later some mixed with armenians and european crusaders, and arabs, (the muslims mostly) muslims will try to tell you they are arab..most xtians will say no we are phonecian.https://phoenicia.org/Canaanite-Phoenician-DNA-in-Modern-Lebanese.html

https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-canaanite-lebanese-genetics-20170727-story.html#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20study%20in%20the%20American%20Journal,ancient%20Canaanites%20who%20lived%20nearly%204%2C000%20years%20ago.

they were fairskinned and many had fair hair and eyes ranging to hazel my grandfather from tyre had blue eyes. my grandmother had reddish brown hair and my dad also had a bit of red hair in his beard and hair back in the day.

they come from the ancient canaanites who worshipped red and bloned haired blue eyed Gods. ancient canaan encompasses, lebanon, jordan, palestine and parts of syria. the xitans are mostly white and the marionite xtians specifically are the closest to the canaanites. the xtians especially the roman and latin caltholics have alot of roman and greek blood.
i am not sure about this theory but some say the phonecians originated with celtics, and that even most of aryan civilization comes from the phonecians. the furthark alphabet comes from their alphabet as have many others.
https://phoenicia.org/celts.html#:~:text=Picts%20were%20a%20small%20people%20and%20were%20considered,and%20the%20Phoenicians%20have%20been%20incorrectly%20termed%20Celts.

(quote from the above link)
.......the daring Phoenician pioneers were not "Semites" as hitherto supposed, but were Aryans in Race, Speech and Script. They were, besides, disclosed to be the lineal blood ancestors of the Britons and Scots -- properly so-called, that is, as opposed to the aboriginal, dark Non-Aryan people of Albion, Caledonia, Hibernia, the dusky small-statured Picts and kindred "Iberian" tribes. -- p. vi of "The Phoenician Origin of Britons, Scots and Anglo-Saxons" (1924)

I have cousins from palestine that have haplogroups consistant with vikings. that either comes from crusaders or the ancient phonecians.

https://www.pulseheadlines.com/bible-wrong-ancient-canaanites-survived-dna-lives-modernday-lebanese/65495/

fuck you kikes. we are still here the hurt train is coming too and we are getting Canaan back! ALOT has been lied about and twisted about their history...THEY WERE NOT SEMITES.

ps. the ancient phonecians also used to drown kikes in the harbor in Jaffa

One question Jack, do you know the origins and genetic characteristics of the Phoenicians?

sorry about that i forgot to also add this link in here:
https://marchofthetitans.com/2016/05/28/dna-phoenician/
phonecians have been found to have european DNA. many of their descendants also live on in spain and ibiza.

they were master shipbuilders and wood and metal workers. they ruled the world almost for thousands of years. One of the greatest civilizations in history.

this article was wrote by magesone btw but as Maxine and Cobra moderated pretty much everything he wrote and left what was good and valid, at least as far as i know, i will also leave this here:
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2781&p=16437&hilit=canaanites#p16437

So, the Phoenicians are not Arabs. I noticed this assimilation technique earlier in history and also today.

Britons are Celts, the only Celts left unassimilated and unmixed are the countries not assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons into Britain. The Anglo-Saxons are not Celts but Germanic, you can verify this in their language and other things.

The origin of the Germanic peoples is Sweden. The Scandinavians could also be the ancestors of the Russians but I can't find any information about the origins of the Russians because the jews have corrupted them too much.

The Celts are not native to Europe, their origins are in Asia and the Middle East. Before native and non-native Europeans expanded into Europe, the Celts invaded and occupied much of Europe but were defeated and assimilated by other peoples because they were too divided. Celts and other peoples must learn and not repeat such a mistake. Both division and unity are needed, but wisdom and balance are also needed.

This means that the Phoenicians are Celts. The history the jews speak of regarding the Semites is either a history and culture stolen from the Arabs or it is a jewish invention to infiltrate and exploit the Arabs. The jews will pay for deceiving and enslaving the Arabs, Celts, Romans, Greeks, Germans and other Gentiles.

The Celts are literally among the most beautiful peoples in this world, there is evidence of this from the Romans and the Greeks on the history of the Celts.

Thank you so much for helping me on my Phoenicians research. Please do not expose yourself and keep your privacy.

I am glad to have helped .

 

[tabby]

I have to say I'm actually quite impressed with how you and jrvan handled it and how well it worked out. Most of the things I had heard about or experienced with polyamory so far by the time I joined these forums were disastrous (with one, two or in some cases all the people involved being unfulfilled and frustrated), or were little more than the fantasies of men who can't even get or keep one girlfriend, let alone two, and then go on to blame women for that fact. Combining this with my own tendency to form a pair and my deep fulfilment in that, I thought that the idea that polyamory could work for humans was just a greedy delusion of narcissists.

But when I shared that opinion here on the forums, people reminded me that there are also Gods and Goddesses who enjoy having casual sex and/or have multiple partners. I realised that even though there are Gods like that, none of Them ever told me that I was wrong for preferring to have only one partner who is only interested in me. Because of that, I started to realise that it's really just a very personal and individual thing, and that that's fine; that there's no "best" way to have a relationship that would work for everyone. I still wondered if a polyamorous relationship would really make anyone happy on the long run, but FancyMancy explained why some people might enjoy it. I started to realise that they're just different from me, or perhaps I'm just different from them.

Back when you mentioned your agreement, I was a bit shocked since I was still struggling to understand these things at the time. But I saw over time just how much the two of you care about each other and how well you work together. Thanks to you, I was able to see that it isn't always just a fantasy; that there really are people out there who want that kind of thing and can make it work, and don't try to tell others they are wrong for being the happiest with just one partner. Thank you for showing me that.

We know and understand each other pretty well, so that definitely helped. Jrvan made the entire thing so much smoother than what I thought it was going to be, he was very patient and understanding, so yeah.

Xtianity wanted to control and destroy people's sex lives right down to masturbation. Now we can finally clean up the mess of that, and teach others it's ok to be different. There's suppose to be variety in sex and relationships, and one preference doesn't make the others wrong or invalid. Bonds between people are sacred, whatever that may look like, mono or poly or otherwise.

I'm glad we could help. It's a relief knowing good things can come from messy topics.

I remember reading my chart some time after I joined the forums, and seeing just how strongly my placements are in favour of monogamy and against casual sex. It seemed a bit over the top almost, but it really helped to make sense of things. Because of that I saw that I'm different from the norm in my own way, but that that isn't a "good" or a "bad" thing; it's just what I happen to be like. And likewise, there might be others who have placements that indicate the opposite. For them to prefer/dislike the same things I do would just be strange. It really helped to put things into perspective.

It's interesting, isn't it? Just how much astrology affects ones life. As jrvan already showed in a later comment, just the placement of Venus can affect how ones preferences end up being. I'd never really thought to read through other placements that weren't my own, so it opened up my own eyes to understand more just how much variety there is with preferences, even more than I thought there was.

I know what you mean. For me, being able to communicate clearly and solve any problem as soon as it appears has always been very important in relationships; to the extent that some of my past relationships were quite brief as glaring incompatibilities rapidly became apparent as I kept confronting them. And yet when it came to my sexual problems, I felt so torn internally that I didn't have the courage to bring it up until my emotions overwhelmed me and caused me to just blurt it out anyway. You mentioned as well how scary it was to feel that way, and to open up about it. I can relate to that, and I'm really glad it worked out for you and jrvan.

I think it's precisely because I was able to see that different things work well for different people that I'm so annoyed that Jack criticised you for having two partners, and your husband for being fine with that, when he himself has expressed that he wants to have two girlfriends and wants them to be happy about it. If anything, I'd expect that he, who wants such a similar thing, would be able to understand these things better than I, being fundamentally incompatible with it myself. And yet here we are. It's bizarre.

It still seriously confuses me how relationships where there's no communication or adequate communication can even function at all.

I feel ya. Before jrvan, I'd only known monogamy, so not only was there the fear of trying to be open to him about it, but also breaking the strictness in my mind regarding monogamy. Like you, I'd hear the horror stories, and didn't even know what poly was until late high school when I first began exploring sexuality. Back then I thought I had to be strictly monogamous because I didn't understand. I was so strict on myself about it to the point that with an ex, I couldn't leave them even though I could tell that the relationship was just not working and they weren't right for me. Breaking that with the agreement jrvan and I made, was like taking a weight off my shoulders and I learned that it was ok to feel the things I did. It was ok to need and want something different.

haha I mentioned this in my last comment to Jack, but when I first saw your comment here stating that he had also expressed about multiple partners for himself but was spitting on mine - oh boy was I angry. That level of hypocrisy does my head in. Whatever the reason for it, I'm just glad things are settling down now.

 

[Sunny]

Im half lebenese who share 95 percent of their DNA with the ancient phonecians so i can answer you.
Beelzebul and Astarte are some of their ancestral Gods. They were a mediterranian white population who also mixed with romans greeks and berbers. (also all medwhites) later some mixed with armenians and european crusaders, and arabs, (the muslims mostly) muslims will try to tell you they are arab..most xtians will say no we are phonecian.https://phoenicia.org/Canaanite-Phoenician-DNA-in-Modern-Lebanese.html

https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-canaanite-lebanese-genetics-20170727-story.html#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20study%20in%20the%20American%20Journal,ancient%20Canaanites%20who%20lived%20nearly%204%2C000%20years%20ago.

they were fairskinned and many had fair hair and eyes ranging to hazel my grandfather from tyre had blue eyes. my grandmother had reddish brown hair and my dad also had a bit of red hair in his beard and hair back in the day.

they come from the ancient canaanites who worshipped red and bloned haired blue eyed Gods. ancient canaan encompasses, lebanon, jordan, palestine and parts of syria. the xitans are mostly white and the marionite xtians specifically are the closest to the canaanites. the xtians especially the roman and latin caltholics have alot of roman and greek blood.
i am not sure about this theory but some say the phonecians originated with celtics, and that even most of aryan civilization comes from the phonecians. the furthark alphabet comes from their alphabet as have many others.
https://phoenicia.org/celts.html#:~:text=Picts%20were%20a%20small%20people%20and%20were%20considered,and%20the%20Phoenicians%20have%20been%20incorrectly%20termed%20Celts.

(quote from the above link)
.......the daring Phoenician pioneers were not "Semites" as hitherto supposed, but were Aryans in Race, Speech and Script. They were, besides, disclosed to be the lineal blood ancestors of the Britons and Scots -- properly so-called, that is, as opposed to the aboriginal, dark Non-Aryan people of Albion, Caledonia, Hibernia, the dusky small-statured Picts and kindred "Iberian" tribes. -- p. vi of "The Phoenician Origin of Britons, Scots and Anglo-Saxons" (1924)

I have cousins from palestine that have haplogroups consistant with vikings. that either comes from crusaders or the ancient phonecians.

https://www.pulseheadlines.com/bible-wrong-ancient-canaanites-survived-dna-lives-modernday-lebanese/65495/

fuck you kikes. we are still here the hurt train is coming too and we are getting Canaan back! ALOT has been lied about and twisted about their history...THEY WERE NOT SEMITES.

ps. the ancient phonecians also used to drown kikes in the harbor in Jaffa

sorry about that i forgot to also add this link in here:
https://marchofthetitans.com/2016/05/28/dna-phoenician/
phonecians have been found to have european DNA. many of their descendants also live on in spain and ibiza.

they were master shipbuilders and wood and metal workers. they ruled the world almost for thousands of years. One of the greatest civilizations in history.

this article was wrote by magesone btw but as Maxine and Cobra moderated pretty much everything he wrote and left what was good and valid, at least as far as i know, i will also leave this here:
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2781&p=16437&hilit=canaanites#p16437

So, the Phoenicians are not Arabs. I noticed this assimilation technique earlier in history and also today.

Britons are Celts, the only Celts left unassimilated and unmixed are the countries not assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons into Britain. The Anglo-Saxons are not Celts but Germanic, you can verify this in their language and other things.

The origin of the Germanic peoples is Sweden. The Scandinavians could also be the ancestors of the Russians but I can't find any information about the origins of the Russians because the jews have corrupted them too much.

The Celts are not native to Europe, their origins are in Asia and the Middle East. Before native and non-native Europeans expanded into Europe, the Celts invaded and occupied much of Europe but were defeated and assimilated by other peoples because they were too divided. Celts and other peoples must learn and not repeat such a mistake. Both division and unity are needed, but wisdom and balance are also needed.

This means that the Phoenicians are Celts. The history the jews speak of regarding the Semites is either a history and culture stolen from the Arabs or it is a jewish invention to infiltrate and exploit the Arabs. The jews will pay for deceiving and enslaving the Arabs, Celts, Romans, Greeks, Germans and other Gentiles.

The Celts are literally among the most beautiful peoples in this world, there is evidence of this from the Romans and the Greeks on the history of the Celts.

Thank you so much for helping me on my Phoenicians research. Please do not expose yourself and keep your privacy.

I am glad to have helped .

Sorry, I made a mistake. The Celts are native to Europe, from France to be exact. I haven't studied them very well and also I've studied the history of many peoples in Europe and Asia and thought they came from Asia and invaded and occupied Europe.

 

[Jack]

I have to say I'm actually quite impressed with how you and jrvan handled it and how well it worked out. Most of the things I had heard about or experienced with polyamory so far by the time I joined these forums were disastrous (with one, two or in some cases all the people involved being unfulfilled and frustrated), or were little more than the fantasies of men who can't even get or keep one girlfriend, let alone two, and then go on to blame women for that fact. Combining this with my own tendency to form a pair and my deep fulfilment in that, I thought that the idea that polyamory could work for humans was just a greedy delusion of narcissists.

But when I shared that opinion here on the forums, people reminded me that there are also Gods and Goddesses who enjoy having casual sex and/or have multiple partners. I realised that even though there are Gods like that, none of Them ever told me that I was wrong for preferring to have only one partner who is only interested in me. Because of that, I started to realise that it's really just a very personal and individual thing, and that that's fine; that there's no "best" way to have a relationship that would work for everyone. I still wondered if a polyamorous relationship would really make anyone happy on the long run, but FancyMancy explained why some people might enjoy it. I started to realise that they're just different from me, or perhaps I'm just different from them.

Back when you mentioned your agreement, I was a bit shocked since I was still struggling to understand these things at the time. But I saw over time just how much the two of you care about each other and how well you work together. Thanks to you, I was able to see that it isn't always just a fantasy; that there really are people out there who want that kind of thing and can make it work, and don't try to tell others they are wrong for being the happiest with just one partner. Thank you for showing me that.

We know and understand each other pretty well, so that definitely helped. Jrvan made the entire thing so much smoother than what I thought it was going to be, he was very patient and understanding, so yeah.

Xtianity wanted to control and destroy people's sex lives right down to masturbation. Now we can finally clean up the mess of that, and teach others it's ok to be different. There's suppose to be variety in sex and relationships, and one preference doesn't make the others wrong or invalid. Bonds between people are sacred, whatever that may look like, mono or poly or otherwise.

I'm glad we could help. It's a relief knowing good things can come from messy topics.

I remember reading my chart some time after I joined the forums, and seeing just how strongly my placements are in favour of monogamy and against casual sex. It seemed a bit over the top almost, but it really helped to make sense of things. Because of that I saw that I'm different from the norm in my own way, but that that isn't a "good" or a "bad" thing; it's just what I happen to be like. And likewise, there might be others who have placements that indicate the opposite. For them to prefer/dislike the same things I do would just be strange. It really helped to put things into perspective.

It's interesting, isn't it? Just how much astrology affects ones life. As jrvan already showed in a later comment, just the placement of Venus can affect how ones preferences end up being. I'd never really thought to read through other placements that weren't my own, so it opened up my own eyes to understand more just how much variety there is with preferences, even more than I thought there was.

I know what you mean. For me, being able to communicate clearly and solve any problem as soon as it appears has always been very important in relationships; to the extent that some of my past relationships were quite brief as glaring incompatibilities rapidly became apparent as I kept confronting them. And yet when it came to my sexual problems, I felt so torn internally that I didn't have the courage to bring it up until my emotions overwhelmed me and caused me to just blurt it out anyway. You mentioned as well how scary it was to feel that way, and to open up about it. I can relate to that, and I'm really glad it worked out for you and jrvan.

I think it's precisely because I was able to see that different things work well for different people that I'm so annoyed that Jack criticised you for having two partners, and your husband for being fine with that, when he himself has expressed that he wants to have two girlfriends and wants them to be happy about it. If anything, I'd expect that he, who wants such a similar thing, would be able to understand these things better than I, being fundamentally incompatible with it myself. And yet here we are. It's bizarre.

It still seriously confuses me how relationships where there's no communication or adequate communication can even function at all.

I feel ya. Before jrvan, I'd only known monogamy, so not only was there the fear of trying to be open to him about it, but also breaking the strictness in my mind regarding monogamy. Like you, I'd hear the horror stories, and didn't even know what poly was until late high school when I first began exploring sexuality. Back then I thought I had to be strictly monogamous because I didn't understand. I was so strict on myself about it to the point that with an ex, I couldn't leave them even though I could tell that the relationship was just not working and they weren't right for me. Breaking that with the agreement jrvan and I made, was like taking a weight off my shoulders and I learned that it was ok to feel the things I did. It was ok to need and want something different.

haha I mentioned this in my last comment to Jack, but when I first saw your comment here stating that he had also expressed about multiple partners for himself but was spitting on mine - oh boy was I angry. That level of hypocrisy does my head in. Whatever the reason for it, I'm just glad things are settling down now.

Btw, just to clarify there is not a single bit of hypocrisy in anything I've said. Throughout history women have shared high value men and most societies before the Advent of Christianity were Polygynous With a small percentage of High Value Men being able to marry multiple women and women being extremely happy to share him because of preselection. Men are biologically Polygynous by nature. This is fact proven by Biologists. The part of the brain that is responsible for Monogamy Doesn't exist In humans. Monogamy was created so that familial units would have better stability and the Society at large would prosper. Higher caste men always were exempt from society's Morals and had multiple wives. Where do you think the Islamic rule of "4 wives" comes from ? According To the ancient Aryan law ,A brahmin (who Is the most spiritually advanced can have upto 4 wives at a time.) I didn't write these laws.

What is unnatural and against nature is that a man will allow a woman to even entertain the possibility of having sex with other men. This is called Cuckoldry. It doesn't matter if it's new age poly crap or anything related its unnatural because a man is going Against his natural instinct of ensuring paternity. And the woman having already lost respect And love for the man because otherwise she wouldn't even be able to think about Other men. This is because pairbonding Hormone are released when a man and woman Have sex which causes pairbonding.

Men and women Are completely different biologically which is why men have always dominated leadership roles with Science, Philosophy, STEM etc while women being involved in Social Work and raising the Children and being involved in community work. This isn't a difference between IQ but about how our brains are wired differently to process information .

This is also why after being faced with Hard incontrovertible fact ,your unable to accept reality. You are lost with no one to show you the way.

And I read your previous comments about me having fear of abandonment. I don't Have Fear ,period much less fear of abandonment. I don't fear Death or physical harm or Anything material that can happen to me. The only way I feel some kind of rise is when I'm extremely lose to danger anf that feeling is of exhilaration not fear. and You need to understand very clearly what I'm saying.

There is a reason why I'm absolutely certain of what I'm saying. If I wasn't certain , I would entertain middle ground. But there is no middle ground . Only after Deep Cleaning , multiple workings And extensive research and a plethora Of personal realizations did I solidify my views. Eventually everyone who is able to seek truth without attachment is going to end up with the exact same views that I have.

I might have to explain how to differentiate between Reality and Delusion in Detailed posts because it seems like the Average person even while being a Satanist can be too caught up in their own little world which they call " Their Truth". As the power of ones self rises it can strengthen the emotions and you might feel so strongly about something that's delusional and refuse to detach and see the truth. This is very common in Cult members. Currently the world's Majority population have been inculcated into a Vaccine CULT .

Men and women are very very different. Just like a woman is prejudiced to not view her children as completely capable of being on their own ,a man is prejudiced to view women as not being capable of being on their own . Just like different races are prejudiced against each other and against interracial couples. These are natural biologically ingrained conditioning from millennia of evolution that Jewish sociologists are calling "misogyny " or "racism". Instead of rejecting our humanity we must accept it, and embrace it.

And thankfully in the world where we're moving in there is going to be an extreme scarcity of eligible men and a lawyer friend of my showed me a loophole where I could marry two women. So that's going to be another thing to look forward to in the future where it will be completely acceptable (it already is) for a man to have multiple women.

 

[tabby]

You're right. I heard that HPS Maxine also often emphasized the importance of sexual freedom and letting people do what they enjoy. But when my instinctive reaction was to feel disgusted or creeped out by some things, I was quick to think maybe that meant it was an exception and that it was really wrong after all, and I would harshly label people as "degenerate". I regret doing that to Jack now.

Just now, I realised that just like I feel creeped out if someone says he/she wants to be tied up and slapped, people who prefer casual sex and don't like to commit might feel creeped out when I talk about how I want to meld with my partner's Soul for eternity. I can't even tell the difference anymore. I could say it's wrong for them to want their movement to be restricted and tolerate pain, but others could say it's wrong of me to want to tie someone down and be tied down metaphorically to such an extreme extent. But despite that criticism, it's still what I enjoy the most. Could it be the same for those I've critcised before out of a lack of understanding?

I also just realised that a masochist's ability to endure pain could be considered strength in its own right, rather than weakness. It seems twisted to me, but no more twisted than some other people might consider me anyway, so is that really a problem? It may not be something that I ever want to do myself, but for me to consider them weak or degenerate over it was wrong after all. If they're doing what they enjoy the most with someone they trust, then what's the problem? There really is none after all. SWG's opening post in this thread made me think that maybe there really are some sexual preferences that are harmful, but after thinking about it more, that only applies to situations where there is a lack of consent or people are overly reckless. When there is consent and people go about whatever they want to do responsibly, then the individual usually knows what's best.

I used to be unsure how to feel about people with strange preferences, since I felt disgusted deep down but forced myself to be polite. But I don't feel that disgust anymore right now. It's not because I let go of my own preferences and boundaries, which I used to fear might happen if I let go of that disgust, but it's because I've realised it's harmless for people to like things that I consider strange. I feel as though I overcame something, and feel more at peace now. I think I was still scared deep down from the times some of my exes tried to force their preferences on me that I wasn't comfortable with, but that isn't going to happen anymore, let alone in this context.

I think this and one other are the only comments of yours that I haven't yet responded to (hopefully). I lost track.

Honestly, BDSM and being tied up during sex still frightens me. I can imagine how it would be sexy for others but the moment I see myself in the same position, my stomach drops. Everyone has different boundaries and knowing those boundaries makes things easier to figure out what people want and need in the bedroom. Communication is better when we know ourselves.

As for the criticism, it's quite possible. It's so difficult to make determinations about what's right and wrong or healthy in the bedroom, because we have our own ideas of what feels good to us and what would be intolerable, what looks healthy and normal to us, and not. Some like myself have completely adverse reactions whenever one may talk about being tied up during sex or hit, etc, but is BDSM inherently wrong just because I fear it? No. Laws are not being broken by the preference alone. It's how people use it.

As you state, some things are very obviously harmful and goes against some of our highest values (forced sex, abuse, pedos, etc). But I would hope there are enough people who are not insane, to know if what they're doing in the bedroom is something they should be doing or not.

I agree with you.

I know what you mean, it's so intimate when you can hold each other and respond to each other's movements. I love that too.

Your line here reminded me of something jrvan helped me understand. The relationships you have with people, not every single one of them needs to be deep the way you may choose to be with your partner. I personally hate shallow or fake relationships. I either want you so in my life that you know me maybe better than I know myself, or I keep you only on the surface and you never really know me at all - there's not really an in between with me. I have a bad habit of not being able to fully understand when I'm sharing too much during moments, because I like to be honest and known well enough by the people that I want close to me, even now I guess I'm ranting a bit. I forget there are enemies who watch the forums, but I have yet to ingrain that to when I think of SS who I feel are trustworthy, I want to be honest with them, like those like you, and form deeper bonds with my brothers and sisters, but that is just not safe.

Shallow is not a bad thing in and of itself. Shallow as a word has a few negative connotations, but not all relationships are supposed to be deep. Some simply can't be for safety reasons or just because you have things that have happened in your life that you would rather no body know. I use to have a lot of problems with shallowness, but I'm slowly accepting that that's just how things are sometimes, and it doesn't mean the other person is bad in any way. Sometimes the relationship is just not meant to be anything but a social relationship for fun and connections in that given situation.

I enjoyed hearing about you and jrvan too. It's amazing how much people can grow when they're with a partner that suits them well.

Ikr? I look back at myself from years ago compared to now with how jrvan has helped me, and knowing that I have someone in my life who isn't going to be my cheerleader just because they care about me. Who can and does help me to be better, points my shit and problems out when I fail to see them but doesn't make me feel stupid and little for it.

 

[Shadowcat]

So, the Phoenicians are not Arabs. I noticed this assimilation technique earlier in history and also today.

Britons are Celts, the only Celts left unassimilated and unmixed are the countries not assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons into Britain. The Anglo-Saxons are not Celts but Germanic, you can verify this in their language and other things.

The origin of the Germanic peoples is Sweden. The Scandinavians could also be the ancestors of the Russians but I can't find any information about the origins of the Russians because the jews have corrupted them too much.

The Celts are not native to Europe, their origins are in Asia and the Middle East. Before native and non-native Europeans expanded into Europe, the Celts invaded and occupied much of Europe but were defeated and assimilated by other peoples because they were too divided. Celts and other peoples must learn and not repeat such a mistake. Both division and unity are needed, but wisdom and balance are also needed.

This means that the Phoenicians are Celts. The history the jews speak of regarding the Semites is either a history and culture stolen from the Arabs or it is a jewish invention to infiltrate and exploit the Arabs. The jews will pay for deceiving and enslaving the Arabs, Celts, Romans, Greeks, Germans and other Gentiles.

The Celts are literally among the most beautiful peoples in this world, there is evidence of this from the Romans and the Greeks on the history of the Celts.

Thank you so much for helping me on my Phoenicians research. Please do not expose yourself and keep your privacy.

I am glad to have helped .

Sorry, I made a mistake. The Celts are native to Europe, from France to be exact. I haven't studied them very well and also I've studied the history of many peoples in Europe and Asia and thought they came from Asia and invaded and occupied Europe.

Yes thats right. I have also theorised that many english and germanics have dark hair and med features also because of the spanish and romans during occupation. In Holland also for example and in England there are ruins and remnants of romans being there all around.

 

[tabby]

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Btw, just to clarify there is not a single bit of hypocrisy in anything I've said. Throughout history women have shared high value men and most societies before the Advent of Christianity were Polygynous With a small percentage of High Value Men being able to marry multiple women and women being extremely happy to share him because of preselection. Men are biologically Polygynous by nature. This is fact proven by Biologists. The part of the brain that is responsible for Monogamy Doesn't exist In humans. Monogamy was created so that familial units would have better stability and the Society at large would prosper. Higher caste men always were exempt from society's Morals and had multiple wives. Where do you think the Islamic rule of "4 wives" comes from ? According To the ancient Aryan law ,A brahmin (who Is the most spiritually advanced can have upto 4 wives at a time.) I didn't write these laws.

What is unnatural and against nature is that a man will allow a woman to even entertain the possibility of having sex with other men. This is called Cuckoldry. It doesn't matter if it's new age poly crap or anything related its unnatural because a man is going Against his natural instinct of ensuring paternity. And the woman having already lost respect And love for the man because otherwise she wouldn't even be able to think about Other men. This is because pairbonding Hormone are released when a man and woman Have sex which causes pairbonding.

Men and women Are completely different biologically which is why men have always dominated leadership roles with Science, Philosophy, STEM etc while women being involved in Social Work and raising the Children and being involved in community work. This isn't a difference between IQ but about how our brains are wired differently to process information .

This is also why after being faced with Hard incontrovertible fact ,your unable to accept reality. You are lost with no one to show you the way.

And I read your previous comments about me having fear of abandonment. I don't Have Fear ,period much less fear of abandonment. I don't fear Death or physical harm or Anything material that can happen to me. The only way I feel some kind of rise is when I'm extremely lose to danger anf that feeling is of exhilaration not fear. and You need to understand very clearly what I'm saying.

There is a reason why I'm absolutely certain of what I'm saying. If I wasn't certain , I would entertain middle ground. But there is no middle ground . Only after Deep Cleaning , multiple workings And extensive research and a plethora Of personal realizations did I solidify my views. Eventually everyone who is able to seek truth without attachment is going to end up with the exact same views that I have.

I might have to explain how to differentiate between Reality and Delusion in Detailed posts because it seems like the Average person even while being a Satanist can be too caught up in their own little world which they call " Their Truth". As the power of ones self rises it can strengthen the emotions and you might feel so strongly about something that's delusional and refuse to detach and see the truth. This is very common in Cult members. Currently the world's Majority population have been inculcated into a Vaccine CULT .

Men and women are very very different. Just like a woman is prejudiced to not view her children as completely capable of being on their own ,a man is prejudiced to view women as not being capable of being on their own . Just like different races are prejudiced against each other and against interracial couples. These are natural biologically ingrained conditioning from millennia of evolution that Jewish sociologists are calling "misogyny " or "racism". Instead of rejecting our humanity we must accept it, and embrace it.

And thankfully in the world where we're moving in there is going to be an extreme scarcity of eligible men and a lawyer friend of my showed me a loophole where I could marry two women. So that's going to be another thing to look forward to in the future where it will be completely acceptable (it already is) for a man to have multiple women.

Will you give it a rest already?

I find it funny how you avoided that comment of mine to you and only now speak up about it when I wasn't even quoting you here. Whenever I tell you that women's rights and liberation is Satanic, you shut down and don't respond to it. You only have to read up on the JoS page about Mother to know this. But still, you continue to think it's some hoax and a massive problem that we need to stop. It's not women we need to stop, it's the jews.

If you were not afraid of anything you would properly apologised to Prez instead of claiming you were "being a troll and didn't even read her post", which actually makes you look so much worse than if you had of just manned up and said sorry for being an ass in the first place. You never want to admit when you are wrong, you force feed "facts" down people's throats and piss on anyone who doesn't agree with you and points out your biases and backtracking, and rant on at every opportunity about how doom and gloom the world is without contributing anything productive to solve the problem, and never want to admit that you have some serious issues to address regarding women. You also only ever bitch on white women funny enough.

If a woman having multiples partners is unnatural it wouldn't be in natal charts or seen in history or even among some of the Demons. Why not look up Draupadi who had five husbands? Being a monogamous man or woman doesn't make you abnormal, Meteor has already presented that her natal chart placements are in favour of monogamy. Just because one woman has multiples partners doesn't mean all women are like this, just because you see an ungrateful slutty leftist brainwashed nut job hanging her ass out down the street doesn't mean all women behave and think like that woman does. You think we're all the same, and it's disgusting and demeaning.

If you actually observed nature instead of looking through the rosy shades of Jack-think, you would see the insane amount of variety in relationships, bonds, and sex. Wolves mate for life, but the bear will find a new partner every season to mate with and raise the cubs alone. The male lion will have a pride of females, while the Jacanas birds females will have multiple males.

Humans are no different in the variety of relationships. What happened in your life to cause you to think women are the reason for the world's problems, that certain preferences are "unnatural", and jump through logical back hoops and insults just to make your statements work in a world where they don't?

I wouldn't call listening to the kvetching of kikes, mudslimes, and xtians about women's liberation and relationships "hard incontrovertible fact". For someone claiming to be working on themselves, you have not changed in the last year and still ignore the advice of the HP and others. Last I remember you actually defended mine and jrvan's partnership against SWG when we first arrived despite knowing even back then - because I openly said it and you commented on it in a confused manner - that we both have Demon partners. Now what do you say? You claim it to be unnatural and insult me for it. Do you only ever defend people for political gain and moral climbing when you get caught in sticky moments on the forums?

Having multiple partners does not make one a cuck when it is agreed upon. I am not being unfaithful to jrvan by having a Demon relationship that he encourage and agreed to openly. I am not mating with other human men. Jrvan is not a weak or servile man. You just have a problem with me, because I am not your ideal woman despite having all the qualities needed to be a mother and a warrior. You have a problem with jrvan just because he has different preferences and cares more about the health of the people in his life than what you think is "unnatural".

You can stick your nose as high in the air at me as you want, mock me as you want, insult and ridicule, and spit on me. That doesn't change the fact that you are being an idiot who thinks he's Big Brother from 1984.

 

[tabby]

Tell me about it... I still remember what xians did to me in my past lives for being different in ways that I couldn't even do anything about. What I went through was so horrible that for a long time I couldn't tell if I was different naturally, or if it had been caused somehow by the horrible karma looming over me. After more than a year of meditation, I finally realised that it was both; overcoming the karma surrounding it all helped me become more balanced, but deep down I still wanted the same things.

You remember trauma from past lives as well?

Knowing that I'm in line with my nature (even if that looks strange to others since my nature itself is unusual), really helped me accept myself more. And yet at the same time, I began to I realise that even if my nature had been more flexible, even if there was a simple way for me to become "not different" in the eyes of others, there's no reason why I should have to do that if it's not what I really want.

I'm starting to wonder why I even thought I needed an excuse, some kind of justification as to why I'm "different", just to be free. If I know deep down that I really want something, then why do I need to justify it just because it isn't "normal"? I began to recognise the hypocrisy in my own self-criticism. Satanism is truly a path of freedom, but it can take time to figure out what exactly freedom even is.

Every so often I like to check in with myself, and go through moments where I look back at as much of the influences in my life and try figure out what is really true to me. What were the things I was naturally drawn to as a child? What was influenced by others, and was that influence a detriment or a benefit? Does it make what I ended up enjoying because of those influences any less true to myself?

What's considered "normal" has been defined by the jews, xtians, and the bible for WAY too long. Things like this wouldn't have to be "justified" in order for those like us to simply live happily in a Pagan world, because the Ancients understood how important sex was. Just as you quoted from HPS Maxine. People are different, we're not suppose to be copies of each other. What will feel good for one person may not or will not feel good to someone else, and that's what's actually normal.

I'm glad you shared your thinking on all this, and about your personal experiences with monogamy. There needs to be variety in voices otherwise you develop a negative echo chamber.

It can be a bit eerie how accurate most of the descriptions on Azazel's Astrology for Satanists are.

In my case it's not just one placement, but four of them that work together to make me more inclined towards monogamy. Wanting to share eternity with someone felt so natural to me that for a long time I assumed everyone else was like that too deep down, and only behaved differently because they hadn't found someone who was right for them yet. But I managed to realise over time that some people just really prefer something more casual or want more than one partner, not because they're greedy, but because they appreciate a different kind of bond.

Yeah, you get new age weird crap with general stuff on astrology all over the internet, and then you read about the descriptions here that have so much pin-point accuracy and it just blows my mind every time. Being able to learn why you're like the way you are and you were never actually this weird freak who didn't fit into society has been quite the breath of fresh air.

Four? Wow. This makes me want to study astrology more and learn more about this. Looking at astrology is more than enough to understand how different people are.

I always thought it was a bit ironic that I've had so many partners despite monogamy being so important to me, while other people who aren't even naturally that inclined towards monogamy try so hard to make a relationship work no matter what. But I think perhaps in a way it also makes sense.

It's precisely because it's genuinely so important to me, that I refuse to settle for anyone who isn't perfect for me in every way. After all, wouldn't it just be horrible for both people involved to make an eternal commitment with someone they're not 100% compatible with? So whenever I found any problem in a relationship, I felt that it needed to be resolved as soon as possible. If my partner wasn't willing to cooperate with that, then I would break up the moment I found anyone who appeared to be better suited for me. Likewise, in cases where it was the other person that broke up with me, I felt heartbroken at first, but would recognize just a few months later just how bad we really were for each other after all, and that I was simply blind to it at the time.

Meanwhile, most people aren't really looking for anything eternal in the first place, and are only trying to force themselves to be monogamous in an artificial way. That means they stick with someone for longer than I would consider natural. Strange, right? But as you and your jrvan mentioned, much of that is due to societal pressures.

I hadn't thought of it like that. Curious. I'm not sure how it is for others who are poly but in my case, when I fall in love with someone and a relationship forms with them, it's like an all or nothing kinda situation. I love that person very deeply and do everything possible to give that person what they need even if I realise that they're not right for me as what happened with my ex. I will care for that person and be loyal to them until they tell me they don't want me anymore (with the exception of if they abuse me). For jrvan and my Demon, if I lost them it would feel like dying. Every person I choose to love I will love with every fiber of myself that I can give them because casual sex or love is not for me.

It certainly is horrible even in non-eternal partnerships when you're not compatible with your partner. That's one of the interesting differences between you and myself. As you've stated when there's a problem that your partner is unwilling to cooperate on, you say no and break it off when you find someone more suitable, whereas I try figure things out until something breaks. Neither of these are wrong, it's just how we are as people in the way we deal with relationships.

I guess this is a good example of how polyamory isn't strict on rules either, or completely opposite of everything that you would otherwise find in monogamous relationships. Polyamory is simply the act of having multiple partners - how that looks and how deeply or casually you engage with all the people involved is entirely dependent on the individuals. There's no rules for each preference, the only ones who make the rules are between yourself and your partner(s) because your personal rules in the bedroom with each other are the only ones that really matter (excluding non-consensual situations).

Something really cool is how if you put two monogamous relationships side by side, despite both being monogamous they will look entirely different from each other just because of the individuals involved. Same goes for other preferences.

 

[tabby]

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And thankfully in the world where we're moving in there is going to be an extreme scarcity of eligible men and a lawyer friend of my showed me a loophole where I could marry two women. So that's going to be another thing to look forward to in the future where it will be completely acceptable (it already is) for a man to have multiple women.

Doing a double take here.

Firstly, what makes you believe that there will be an extreme scarcity of eligible men?
And secondly, I'm not interested in other human males so this has no relevance to me as to what you're doing in order to gain multiple human wives, or do you enjoy deliberately ignoring the fact that I have a Demon relationship and carrying on with your fake narrative that I'm fucking a horde of human men?

It's funny how smug your energy feels on this when it doesn't have any connection to me and my sex life.

 

[Wunjo_Embrace]

I have to say I'm actually quite impressed with how you and jrvan handled it and how well it worked out. Most of the things I had heard about or experienced with polyamory so far by the time I joined these forums were disastrous (with one, two or in some cases all the people involved being unfulfilled and frustrated), or were little more than the fantasies of men who can't even get or keep one girlfriend, let alone two, and then go on to blame women for that fact. Combining this with my own tendency to form a pair and my deep fulfilment in that, I thought that the idea that polyamory could work for humans was just a greedy delusion of narcissists.

But when I shared that opinion here on the forums, people reminded me that there are also Gods and Goddesses who enjoy having casual sex and/or have multiple partners. I realised that even though there are Gods like that, none of Them ever told me that I was wrong for preferring to have only one partner who is only interested in me. Because of that, I started to realise that it's really just a very personal and individual thing, and that that's fine; that there's no "best" way to have a relationship that would work for everyone. I still wondered if a polyamorous relationship would really make anyone happy on the long run, but FancyMancy explained why some people might enjoy it. I started to realise that they're just different from me, or perhaps I'm just different from them.

Back when you mentioned your agreement, I was a bit shocked since I was still struggling to understand these things at the time. But I saw over time just how much the two of you care about each other and how well you work together. Thanks to you, I was able to see that it isn't always just a fantasy; that there really are people out there who want that kind of thing and can make it work, and don't try to tell others they are wrong for being the happiest with just one partner. Thank you for showing me that.

We know and understand each other pretty well, so that definitely helped. Jrvan made the entire thing so much smoother than what I thought it was going to be, he was very patient and understanding, so yeah.

Xtianity wanted to control and destroy people's sex lives right down to masturbation. Now we can finally clean up the mess of that, and teach others it's ok to be different. There's suppose to be variety in sex and relationships, and one preference doesn't make the others wrong or invalid. Bonds between people are sacred, whatever that may look like, mono or poly or otherwise.

I'm glad we could help. It's a relief knowing good things can come from messy topics.

I remember reading my chart some time after I joined the forums, and seeing just how strongly my placements are in favour of monogamy and against casual sex. It seemed a bit over the top almost, but it really helped to make sense of things. Because of that I saw that I'm different from the norm in my own way, but that that isn't a "good" or a "bad" thing; it's just what I happen to be like. And likewise, there might be others who have placements that indicate the opposite. For them to prefer/dislike the same things I do would just be strange. It really helped to put things into perspective.

It's interesting, isn't it? Just how much astrology affects ones life. As jrvan already showed in a later comment, just the placement of Venus can affect how ones preferences end up being. I'd never really thought to read through other placements that weren't my own, so it opened up my own eyes to understand more just how much variety there is with preferences, even more than I thought there was.

I know what you mean. For me, being able to communicate clearly and solve any problem as soon as it appears has always been very important in relationships; to the extent that some of my past relationships were quite brief as glaring incompatibilities rapidly became apparent as I kept confronting them. And yet when it came to my sexual problems, I felt so torn internally that I didn't have the courage to bring it up until my emotions overwhelmed me and caused me to just blurt it out anyway. You mentioned as well how scary it was to feel that way, and to open up about it. I can relate to that, and I'm really glad it worked out for you and jrvan.

I think it's precisely because I was able to see that different things work well for different people that I'm so annoyed that Jack criticised you for having two partners, and your husband for being fine with that, when he himself has expressed that he wants to have two girlfriends and wants them to be happy about it. If anything, I'd expect that he, who wants such a similar thing, would be able to understand these things better than I, being fundamentally incompatible with it myself. And yet here we are. It's bizarre.

It still seriously confuses me how relationships where there's no communication or adequate communication can even function at all.

I feel ya. Before jrvan, I'd only known monogamy, so not only was there the fear of trying to be open to him about it, but also breaking the strictness in my mind regarding monogamy. Like you, I'd hear the horror stories, and didn't even know what poly was until late high school when I first began exploring sexuality. Back then I thought I had to be strictly monogamous because I didn't understand. I was so strict on myself about it to the point that with an ex, I couldn't leave them even though I could tell that the relationship was just not working and they weren't right for me. Breaking that with the agreement jrvan and I made, was like taking a weight off my shoulders and I learned that it was ok to feel the things I did. It was ok to need and want something different.

haha I mentioned this in my last comment to Jack, but when I first saw your comment here stating that he had also expressed about multiple partners for himself but was spitting on mine - oh boy was I angry. That level of hypocrisy does my head in. Whatever the reason for it, I'm just glad things are settling down now.

Btw, just to clarify there is not a single bit of hypocrisy in anything I've said. Throughout history women have shared high value men and most societies before the Advent of Christianity were Polygynous With a small percentage of High Value Men being able to marry multiple women and women being extremely happy to share him because of preselection. Men are biologically Polygynous by nature. This is fact proven by Biologists. The part of the brain that is responsible for Monogamy Doesn't exist In humans. Monogamy was created so that familial units would have better stability and the Society at large would prosper. Higher caste men always were exempt from society's Morals and had multiple wives. Where do you think the Islamic rule of "4 wives" comes from ? According To the ancient Aryan law ,A brahmin (who Is the most spiritually advanced can have upto 4 wives at a time.) I didn't write these laws.

What is unnatural and against nature is that a man will allow a woman to even entertain the possibility of having sex with other men. This is called Cuckoldry. It doesn't matter if it's new age poly crap or anything related its unnatural because a man is going Against his natural instinct of ensuring paternity. And the woman having already lost respect And love for the man because otherwise she wouldn't even be able to think about Other men. This is because pairbonding Hormone are released when a man and woman Have sex which causes pairbonding.

Men and women Are completely different biologically which is why men have always dominated leadership roles with Science, Philosophy, STEM etc while women being involved in Social Work and raising the Children and being involved in community work. This isn't a difference between IQ but about how our brains are wired differently to process information .

This is also why after being faced with Hard incontrovertible fact ,your unable to accept reality. You are lost with no one to show you the way.

And I read your previous comments about me having fear of abandonment. I don't Have Fear ,period much less fear of abandonment. I don't fear Death or physical harm or Anything material that can happen to me. The only way I feel some kind of rise is when I'm extremely lose to danger anf that feeling is of exhilaration not fear. and You need to understand very clearly what I'm saying.

There is a reason why I'm absolutely certain of what I'm saying. If I wasn't certain , I would entertain middle ground. But there is no middle ground . Only after Deep Cleaning , multiple workings And extensive research and a plethora Of personal realizations did I solidify my views. Eventually everyone who is able to seek truth without attachment is going to end up with the exact same views that I have.

I might have to explain how to differentiate between Reality and Delusion in Detailed posts because it seems like the Average person even while being a Satanist can be too caught up in their own little world which they call " Their Truth". As the power of ones self rises it can strengthen the emotions and you might feel so strongly about something that's delusional and refuse to detach and see the truth. This is very common in Cult members. Currently the world's Majority population have been inculcated into a Vaccine CULT .

Men and women are very very different. Just like a woman is prejudiced to not view her children as completely capable of being on their own ,a man is prejudiced to view women as not being capable of being on their own . Just like different races are prejudiced against each other and against interracial couples. These are natural biologically ingrained conditioning from millennia of evolution that Jewish sociologists are calling "misogyny " or "racism". Instead of rejecting our humanity we must accept it, and embrace it.

And thankfully in the world where we're moving in there is going to be an extreme scarcity of eligible men and a lawyer friend of my showed me a loophole where I could marry two women. So that's going to be another thing to look forward to in the future where it will be completely acceptable (it already is) for a man to have multiple women.

Man you sound totally like someone that treats women like garbage and there is plenty of you in the world. People don't need more of your kind and your traditional jewish stuff.

Our SS females deserve better, this is crazy. Preach your shit in church, not here.

 

[Jack]

To Rabbi Jack:

It's like you have never heard of swingers, or orgies and group sex relationships. You're just going to have to accept that some people are different and like different things. A lot of it is astrological which is superior to your one-dimensional view of biology and biological mechanics where paternity is the be-all-end-all. What two or more people do in their own bedrooms is not up to you to decide. As long as it's not endangering anyone, it's consensual, it's the same race, doesn't involve animals, and doesn't involve children... then most things are just personalized. If I was the president, and some couples wanted to dress up as me to have sex - I might get a little bit of a chill and get creeped out a little, but it's their own roleplay/cosplay adventure and it's their business. Some people are into freaky shit. It's whatever. I can't really blame humans for being bored right now with the jewish slave grid.

If two men want to share one woman then what does it matter to you anyway? Why do you feel like you have such a huge stake in this? Swingers wouldn't be such a huge phenomenon if it was so unnatural. These people crave it in their souls because they are different, and you can't change them anymore than you can convince them that their "biology" demands something different from what they desire. You accept homosexuals as legitimate, but you draw the line at polyandry. B-b-bigot.

And yes I know swingers and polyamory are not the same thing. That's not the point.

By the way, if anyone takes issue with me calling him Rabbi Jack, please know that I'm not accusing him of being jewish. I'm simply expressing my contempt while at the same time suggesting that if he were jewish then he would be rabbi level with his ability to confuse, scapegoat and twist things. There's a part of me that's itching to wager on whether or not he would feel flattered by that. I've never seen someone reverse things to such a degree that they ended up literally talking about themselves as if they were making charges against their reflection while accusing others.

Ofcourse mentally deranged people have existed throughout history. That doesn't mean mental derangement is to be accepted as normal.

Psychologically damaged people who let their wives have sex with other men have existed for centuries, that doesn't mean I'm not going to clown cucks for being cucks.

Ofcourse you can do whatever you want in your own bedroom but that doesn't mean you're not going to be clowned for it in a public space.

Btw, there was one another person who was calling me rabbi in the past. It turned out that he was an actual jew and was swiftly banned. I hope that's not the case with you and your just stupid. Because we can ignore stupid people but we can't ignore jews.

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

You and other men like you just want to pretend that problems never existed so that you never have to deal with the uncomfortable reality.

This is the full mask off moment that everyone should be paying attention to and hopefully it will show why there is such a disagreement here.

JRVAN SUPPORTS THE IDEA OF WHITE COLLECTIVE GUILT.

If it hasn’t been blatant enough from his other posts, he does not like men with any self respect or pride. You must accept his browbeating or else you are muh soggy knee stick. He has effectively crafted a Holocaust-esque narrative that cannot be questioned unless you are a notsee terrorist. 6 million women were turned into soap by evil huwhite males so you must emasculate yourself at every turn for forgiveness. Wear the chastity cage and let other men fuck your wife because as a man you did something bad 600 years ago or something, so now you must pay for it by endless groveling and cuckholdry.

And like the Holocaust, none of it was real. There were no gas chambers, nor were there ever human farms with thousands of women chained up as baby making machines. There were never any mass graves with thousands of women that had been beaten to death by their husbands because no such thing ever occurred and it is ludicrous to say so. But I guess it was real in his mind so we just have to accept it as fact now.

Jrvan viscerally HATES the Aryan man.

 

[Jack]

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And thankfully in the world where we're moving in there is going to be an extreme scarcity of eligible men and a lawyer friend of my showed me a loophole where I could marry two women. So that's going to be another thing to look forward to in the future where it will be completely acceptable (it already is) for a man to have multiple women.

Doing a double take here.

Firstly, what makes you believe that there will be an extreme scarcity of eligible men?
And secondly, I'm not interested in other human males so this has no relevance to me as to what you're doing in order to gain multiple human wives, or do you enjoy deliberately ignoring the fact that I have a Demon relationship and carrying on with your fake narrative that I'm fucking a horde of human men?

It's funny how smug your energy feels on this when it doesn't have any connection to me and my sex life.

It doesn't matter if it's a demon relationship or a human relationship. Sexual exclusivity is being broken which means cuckoldry is taking place. Its unfaithfulness ,Period.

Human Females are not birds and are not Polygamous. They are hypergamous by nature and they have a natural pairbonding mechanism which gives sexual exclusivity to one Male. Going against this is going against natural instincts of jealousy, which makes it unnatural. These natural instincts are there for a reason.

Swingers and polyamory is similarly unnatural. The only situation where polyandy happens is in extreme situations where there are a severe scarcity of women which is noticed in certain Asian tribes.

There's nothing I have to change for because I'm the best version of myself and everything I believe in is by this time 100% correct. I would change if you showed me what I was saying was in anyway false,but as youve shown your incapable of critical debate .I've gone through different variations of views and ended up accepting the eventual results which could not be disproved further in any way. There is nothing wrong that I've done and I'm not going to apologize for anything because I've done nothing wrong.

You need to look for your own faults and rectify them which causes you to be with an inadequate male who can't satisfy you sexually and let's you have sex with other men. Your projecting your own hatred of women onto the general populace because you want everyone to be as miserable as you are.

I wouldn't take a cuck and his wife seriously even if it was the end of the world. This hilarious derangement syndrome has gone on for far too long.

If you want to continue to be retarded ,then please be my guest. But your going on the ignore list since nothing you or your husband have said within weeks has been of any significance and your just wasting my time at this point.

Ofcourse if we have to rectify a problem we have to look at a root cause - by studying how the jews destroyed the family unit and tanked the birthrate through female liberation. It's not nagging its dissecting and studying a problem. Just saying "Its the Jews" doesn't mean shit if you don't understand exactly what these jews have done. And in order to rectify it, we have to reverse it.

There is nothing liberating about a woman getting financially independent or working at a dead end job. She is liberated when a man is taking care of her, and her responsibility is only to her children. That is when she is always happy and the statistics show this.

I've had enough of stupid millennials with no real life experience who live in a fantasy land created by Jewish TV Shows refuse to accept hard facts of reality. If you can't that's okay. But I can't take this stupid conversation anymore where you refuse to accept basic facts of reality.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

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I've been reading all of this thread and all of the sewing thread and I've had enough. So I am just going to say what I think now.

Jack has derailed a couple of threads in the past with his attitude on women, then the thread on sewing got derailed and this thread already has 2 full pages too.
So at least 200 posts were made just to make him realize things.

At this point it sounds like he's just trolling and purposefully making us mad and making us waste our energy on this.
He's not even putting in the effort to take what we say and overthink it. It's all just 'my views are the absolute truth' kind of nonsense.

So I am going straight up ahead and say it. Jack you're an infiltrator and a Jew. You're trying to spread crap into the forums, spreading fear too.

People have been banned for less than this.

If NOTHING is done, I will go and post pictures of depicting Jews on every single new topic and post that Jack makes.

This is where I draw the line.

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IF Jack turns out to be truly a gentile, he must first prove himself otherwise. Until thats done he's a Jew to me.

 

[Jack]

This is also why after being faced with Hard incontrovertible fact ,your unable to accept reality. You are lost with no one to show you the way.

Don't tell Tabby who she is. You don't know anything about her. She's explained her points with reason and logic in a calm manner, even better than I did. You just don't want to admit it because she's female, and she's totally subduing you in an argument and you hate that. You fear that it makes your manhood smaller to lose an argument to a female. You're weak. It also shows that you don't have a valid argument. All the nonsense you're spouting is easily refuted. Even. By. A. Girl. Chew on that one you misogynistic joke.

And I read your previous comments about me having fear of abandonment. I don't Have Fear ,period much less fear of abandonment. I don't fear Death or physical harm or Anything material that can happen to me. The only way I feel some kind of rise is when I'm extremely lose to danger anf that feeling is of exhilaration not fear. and You need to understand very clearly what I'm saying.

If you don't have fear period then you're lacking a basic emotion which means you're unhealthy and unbalanced. For example, if you had kids and you didn't harbor any fear whatsoever for their safety then that's potentially psychopathic in my opinion.

There is a reason why I'm absolutely certain of what I'm saying. If I wasn't certain , I would entertain middle ground. But there is no middle ground . Only after Deep Cleaning , multiple workings And extensive research and a plethora Of personal realizations did I solidify my views. Eventually everyone who is able to seek truth without attachment is going to end up with the exact same views that I have.

Nope. Not everyone is you, and not everyone sees the world the way you do. Nor do you have a claim on what absolute Truth of reality is. You're not Satan.

I might have to explain how to differentiate between Reality and Delusion in Detailed posts because it seems like the Average person even while being a Satanist can be too caught up in their own little world which they call " Their Truth". As the power of ones self rises it can strengthen the emotions and you might feel so strongly about something that's delusional and refuse to detach and see the truth. This is very common in Cult members.

More projection.

Men and women are very very different. Just like a woman is prejudiced to not view her children as completely capable of being on their own ,a man is prejudiced to view women as not being capable of being on their own . Just like different races are prejudiced against each other and against interracial couples. These are natural biologically ingrained conditioning from millennia of evolution that Jewish sociologists are calling "misogyny " or "racism". Instead of rejecting our humanity we must accept it, and embrace it.

Yep. And most men who aren't weak also instinctively realize that taking care of their women doesn't mean they have to put shackles on them, or beat them up to get them to do what they want.

And thankfully in the world where we're moving in there is going to be an extreme scarcity of eligible men and a lawyer friend of my showed me a loophole where I could marry two women. So that's going to be another thing to look forward to in the future where it will be completely acceptable (it already is) for a man to have multiple women.

Nothing wrong with that. Why do you have a problem with certain women having two males to herself? You could just let it be instead of declaring war on the concept itself, and acting like you need to destroy it in order to have cosmic peace within yourself.

Oh wait. I know why. It's because you hate women. You think that wifebeaters never existed. And you think that battered women were just a myth. And that women never got tortured in the middle ages. And that mothers and their children were never abused by xian men. You think women have absolutely no cause whatsoever to be fearful of men. And most in society don't fear men thanks to xianity losing power, and wifebeaters not being tolerated in society. There's still a subset of women who are fearful of men though, and that's because there are some terrible people out there who abuse women and children. They used to be able to get away with it unchallenged in your glorified 50's and 60's.

You and other men like you just want to pretend that problems never existed so that you never have to deal with the uncomfortable reality. You want to absolve the male sex of collective guilt so it never has to be dealt with even though there is nothing to absolve in the first place, and you weak males are getting defensive over nothing and just make things worse. Jews pushing radical feminism are going to get what they deserve. Males who abuse women and children are going to get their asses kicked and their women and children taken away, just like it should always be the case. Men who demean, slander, diminish, and scapegoat women collectively instead of blaming the jews - are going to be called out, ridiculed, and shamed by people who see through their bullshit.

Stop trying to act like women were the ones who put the invading illegal immigrants on the boats and buses. It was jews.

Ive never said that abuse didn't take place. I don't have the statistics so I can't say for sure what the percentage of abuse was. Maybe if you can find the statistics about Domestic Abuse in the 1950s we could talk about that.

But its definitely not the way your projecting. Not everyone was beating up their wives. That's ridiculous and deranged on another level. Wide beating became a criminal offense since 1920s and before that people were killed and punished for beating their wives.

The issue with you specifically is that you have unresolved issues with your mother. You need to go forgive her for whatever she has done to you ,which may release your mind to be more critical and separate yourself from your thoughts. Not everything revolves around you.

Just because your mother was beaten doesn't mean every mother was being beaten. My father never touched my mother or anyone in my family. I've never heard or seen anyone beat their girlfriends or their wives. Your doing an extreme projection of thinking that everyone must be beating their wives.

Even if most of these men were Christians (just like in Nazi Germany) they weren't most of the time obsessed with Christianity or take it too seriously. Religion for the majority of people is just a community thing. These men were also Gentiles and they weren't psychopathic. Why in the hell would a man beat their wife ? This is retarded.

Women were a hundred times more happier ,merrier and their lives had more meaning in the 1950s when they were mothers and community members and were dependent upon men for their finances. And there's nothing to depend upon because they were a unit which worked like lock and key.

You seem to have a serious issue with women's happiness where you don't want to or simply don't understand women's needs and their happiness which has drastically decreased as they've gotten financially independent and away from men. Just because in your isolated case this wasn't true doesn't mean in the majority of the population it isn't true.

Women didn't put the travelling immigrants into the boats and through the border. But since they didn't have kids while the immigrants did ,the country is now getting taken over. I don't blame women, period. Because I know as history is testament when faced with hard choices, it is the men who must lead. The major blame falls upon the men who allowed their women to make the choices that has destroyed the country. Men haven't protected their women from themselves and from the Jewish influence which is why all this is happening now.

 

[Shadowcat]

I have to say I'm actually quite impressed with how you and jrvan handled it and how well it worked out. Most of the things I had heard about or experienced with polyamory so far by the time I joined these forums were disastrous (with one, two or in some cases all the people involved being unfulfilled and frustrated), or were little more than the fantasies of men who can't even get or keep one girlfriend, let alone two, and then go on to blame women for that fact. Combining this with my own tendency to form a pair and my deep fulfilment in that, I thought that the idea that polyamory could work for humans was just a greedy delusion of narcissists.

But when I shared that opinion here on the forums, people reminded me that there are also Gods and Goddesses who enjoy having casual sex and/or have multiple partners. I realised that even though there are Gods like that, none of Them ever told me that I was wrong for preferring to have only one partner who is only interested in me. Because of that, I started to realise that it's really just a very personal and individual thing, and that that's fine; that there's no "best" way to have a relationship that would work for everyone. I still wondered if a polyamorous relationship would really make anyone happy on the long run, but FancyMancy explained why some people might enjoy it. I started to realise that they're just different from me, or perhaps I'm just different from them.

Back when you mentioned your agreement, I was a bit shocked since I was still struggling to understand these things at the time. But I saw over time just how much the two of you care about each other and how well you work together. Thanks to you, I was able to see that it isn't always just a fantasy; that there really are people out there who want that kind of thing and can make it work, and don't try to tell others they are wrong for being the happiest with just one partner. Thank you for showing me that.

We know and understand each other pretty well, so that definitely helped. Jrvan made the entire thing so much smoother than what I thought it was going to be, he was very patient and understanding, so yeah.

Xtianity wanted to control and destroy people's sex lives right down to masturbation. Now we can finally clean up the mess of that, and teach others it's ok to be different. There's suppose to be variety in sex and relationships, and one preference doesn't make the others wrong or invalid. Bonds between people are sacred, whatever that may look like, mono or poly or otherwise.

I'm glad we could help. It's a relief knowing good things can come from messy topics.

I remember reading my chart some time after I joined the forums, and seeing just how strongly my placements are in favour of monogamy and against casual sex. It seemed a bit over the top almost, but it really helped to make sense of things. Because of that I saw that I'm different from the norm in my own way, but that that isn't a "good" or a "bad" thing; it's just what I happen to be like. And likewise, there might be others who have placements that indicate the opposite. For them to prefer/dislike the same things I do would just be strange. It really helped to put things into perspective.

It's interesting, isn't it? Just how much astrology affects ones life. As jrvan already showed in a later comment, just the placement of Venus can affect how ones preferences end up being. I'd never really thought to read through other placements that weren't my own, so it opened up my own eyes to understand more just how much variety there is with preferences, even more than I thought there was.

I know what you mean. For me, being able to communicate clearly and solve any problem as soon as it appears has always been very important in relationships; to the extent that some of my past relationships were quite brief as glaring incompatibilities rapidly became apparent as I kept confronting them. And yet when it came to my sexual problems, I felt so torn internally that I didn't have the courage to bring it up until my emotions overwhelmed me and caused me to just blurt it out anyway. You mentioned as well how scary it was to feel that way, and to open up about it. I can relate to that, and I'm really glad it worked out for you and jrvan.

I think it's precisely because I was able to see that different things work well for different people that I'm so annoyed that Jack criticised you for having two partners, and your husband for being fine with that, when he himself has expressed that he wants to have two girlfriends and wants them to be happy about it. If anything, I'd expect that he, who wants such a similar thing, would be able to understand these things better than I, being fundamentally incompatible with it myself. And yet here we are. It's bizarre.

It still seriously confuses me how relationships where there's no communication or adequate communication can even function at all.

I feel ya. Before jrvan, I'd only known monogamy, so not only was there the fear of trying to be open to him about it, but also breaking the strictness in my mind regarding monogamy. Like you, I'd hear the horror stories, and didn't even know what poly was until late high school when I first began exploring sexuality. Back then I thought I had to be strictly monogamous because I didn't understand. I was so strict on myself about it to the point that with an ex, I couldn't leave them even though I could tell that the relationship was just not working and they weren't right for me. Breaking that with the agreement jrvan and I made, was like taking a weight off my shoulders and I learned that it was ok to feel the things I did. It was ok to need and want something different.

haha I mentioned this in my last comment to Jack, but when I first saw your comment here stating that he had also expressed about multiple partners for himself but was spitting on mine - oh boy was I angry. That level of hypocrisy does my head in. Whatever the reason for it, I'm just glad things are settling down now.

Btw, just to clarify there is not a single bit of hypocrisy in anything I've said. Throughout history women have shared high value men and most societies before the Advent of Christianity were Polygynous With a small percentage of High Value Men being able to marry multiple women and women being extremely happy to share him because of preselection. Men are biologically Polygynous by nature. This is fact proven by Biologists. The part of the brain that is responsible for Monogamy Doesn't exist In humans. Monogamy was created so that familial units would have better stability and the Society at large would prosper. Higher caste men always were exempt from society's Morals and had multiple wives. Where do you think the Islamic rule of "4 wives" comes from ? According To the ancient Aryan law ,A brahmin (who Is the most spiritually advanced can have upto 4 wives at a time.) I didn't write these laws.

What is unnatural and against nature is that a man will allow a woman to even entertain the possibility of having sex with other men. This is called Cuckoldry. It doesn't matter if it's new age poly crap or anything related its unnatural because a man is going Against his natural instinct of ensuring paternity. And the woman having already lost respect And love for the man because otherwise she wouldn't even be able to think about Other men. This is because pairbonding Hormone are released when a man and woman Have sex which causes pairbonding.

Men and women Are completely different biologically which is why men have always dominated leadership roles with Science, Philosophy, STEM etc while women being involved in Social Work and raising the Children and being involved in community work. This isn't a difference between IQ but about how our brains are wired differently to process information .

This is also why after being faced with Hard incontrovertible fact ,your unable to accept reality. You are lost with no one to show you the way.

And I read your previous comments about me having fear of abandonment. I don't Have Fear ,period much less fear of abandonment. I don't fear Death or physical harm or Anything material that can happen to me. The only way I feel some kind of rise is when I'm extremely lose to danger anf that feeling is of exhilaration not fear. and You need to understand very clearly what I'm saying.

There is a reason why I'm absolutely certain of what I'm saying. If I wasn't certain , I would entertain middle ground. But there is no middle ground . Only after Deep Cleaning , multiple workings And extensive research and a plethora Of personal realizations did I solidify my views. Eventually everyone who is able to seek truth without attachment is going to end up with the exact same views that I have.

I might have to explain how to differentiate between Reality and Delusion in Detailed posts because it seems like the Average person even while being a Satanist can be too caught up in their own little world which they call " Their Truth". As the power of ones self rises it can strengthen the emotions and you might feel so strongly about something that's delusional and refuse to detach and see the truth. This is very common in Cult members. Currently the world's Majority population have been inculcated into a Vaccine CULT .

Men and women are very very different. Just like a woman is prejudiced to not view her children as completely capable of being on their own ,a man is prejudiced to view women as not being capable of being on their own . Just like different races are prejudiced against each other and against interracial couples. These are natural biologically ingrained conditioning from millennia of evolution that Jewish sociologists are calling "misogyny " or "racism". Instead of rejecting our humanity we must accept it, and embrace it.

And thankfully in the world where we're moving in there is going to be an extreme scarcity of eligible men and a lawyer friend of my showed me a loophole where I could marry two women. So that's going to be another thing to look forward to in the future where it will be completely acceptable (it already is) for a man to have multiple women.

So as a woman idk wtf I would do with 2 men. One can already be a headache 2 would be a migraine.

I don't see anything wrong with a man having multiple wives as long as they're cool with it and as long as he's good to them and everyone's happy.

He can have as many as he pleases on those terms as far as I'm concerned as long as I'm not one as I personally am not one to share. It's not in my nature and never will be.

But don't we also have Goddesses who are polyamorous/polygamous?

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

I've been reading all of this thread and all of the sewing thread and I've had enough. So I am just going to say what I think now.

Jack has derailed a couple of threads in the past with his attitude on women, then the thread on sewing got derailed and this thread already has 2 full pages too.
So at least 200 posts were made just to make him realize things.

At this point it sounds like he's just trolling and purposefully making us mad and making us waste our energy on this.
He's not even putting in the effort to take what we say and overthink it. It's all just 'my views are the absolute truth' kind of nonsense.

So I am going straight up ahead and say it. Jack you're an infiltrator and a Jew. You're trying to spread crap into the forums, spreading fear too.

People have been banned for less than this.

If NOTHING is done, I will go and post pictures of depicting Jews on every single new topic and post that Jack makes.

This is where I draw the line.

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IF Jack turns out to be truly a gentile, he must first prove himself otherwise. Until thats done he's a Jew to me.

If Jack were a woman and posting shit about men all the time, he would have been banned. So why is he allowed to stay? And yes, people have been banned for less, so why is he still here? Oh that's right, because it is still acceptable for men to be misogynists, but at the slightest hint of (((feminism))) that's where the line is drawn and pitchforks are drawn. I really wish HPS Maxine was still active here.

I don't think Jack is a jew, but he does act like one: he twists what people say, ignores what he can't answer and keeps harping on statistics and what he has already said, tries to mentally wear down people to influence them to give up, and so on. These are jewish tactics, so he probably has lawyers or brahmins in his family, as they study these tactics well. He is definitely not a Satanic soul and does not belong here. He only cares about pushing his own beliefs and winning arguments. This is the JOY OF SATAN, not the "joy of right-wingers taking over the world", as he has written before. And all his other bullshit, which does not belong in a Satanic forum.

And fyi, while I have been ignoring most of this, I have seen some beef between him and Jrvan. I just want to say, Jrvan is 666x the man Jack is. Jrvan is a Satanic soul, this is obvious.

I repeat: THESE FORUMS ARE FOR SATANISTS.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [SG]]

I've been reading all of this thread and all of the sewing thread and I've had enough. So I am just going to say what I think now.

Jack has derailed a couple of threads in the past with his attitude on women, then the thread on sewing got derailed and this thread already has 2 full pages too.
So at least 200 posts were made just to make him realize things.

At this point it sounds like he's just trolling and purposefully making us mad and making us waste our energy on this.
He's not even putting in the effort to take what we say and overthink it. It's all just 'my views are the absolute truth' kind of nonsense.

So I am going straight up ahead and say it. Jack you're an infiltrator and a Jew. You're trying to spread crap into the forums, spreading fear too.

People have been banned for less than this.

If NOTHING is done, I will go and post pictures of depicting Jews on every single new topic and post that Jack makes.

This is where I draw the line.

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IF Jack turns out to be truly a gentile, he must first prove himself otherwise. Until thats done he's a Jew to me.

If Jack were a woman and posting shit about men all the time, he would have been banned. So why is he allowed to stay? And yes, people have been banned for less, so why is he still here? Oh that's right, because it is still acceptable for men to be misogynists, but at the slightest hint of (((feminism))) that's where the line is drawn and pitchforks are drawn. I really wish HPS Maxine was still active here.

I don't think Jack is a jew, but he does act like one: he twists what people say, ignores what he can't answer and keeps harping on statistics and what he has already said, tries to mentally wear down people to influence them to give up, and so on. These are jewish tactics, so he probably has lawyers or brahmins in his family, as they study these tactics well. He is definitely not a Satanic soul and does not belong here. He only cares about pushing his own beliefs and winning arguments. This is the JOY OF SATAN, not the "joy of right-wingers taking over the world", as he has written before. And all his other bullshit, which does not belong in a Satanic forum.

And fyi, while I have been ignoring most of this, I have seen some beef between him and Jrvan. I just want to say, Jrvan is 666x the man Jack is. Jrvan is a Satanic soul, this is obvious.

I repeat: THESE FORUMS ARE FOR SATANISTS.

To add my opinion.

While I support the above to a personal degree (as in already fed up with pointless bullshit and alpha male wannabes), my question is, why does every one of you take at face value and personally what Jack's marketing tactics espouse.

It is very clear that Jack in question does not have too much experience with women, social life, and the actual psychology of the masses. He tries to make amends the limited rationality of statistics with the organic reality of life and interactions. He also doesn't understand how females in general and in specifics do not apply to the limited view of frustrated men, or the opposite types of men.

I will never understand the discussion on men and women, neither from a social or political standpoint, without the premise and actual problems deriving from lack of self-worth, lack of contemplation, and maturity or mental problems. He projects his own view from an ill standpoint of life regarding these matters as a form of supposed contribution and savior syndrome.

The above tactics and way to be was evidential in an argument I had with him on suicide as well: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=170937#p170937

The purpose of discussions is to help each other and be inspired by others. As Lydia said, this is a Satanic and Advancement-focused forum. Repeated focus on political and personal vendettas because the world doesn't fit you, and you don't understand a greater perceptive view is not on the table for others to be hurt by. Jack has been attacked also in the past, but I suggest for everyone to understand greater and actually get to know what makes a person do the above. To say it straight, Jack is in no authority to be listened to in these subjects, so why the focus on him. Same for the opposite.

The first thing that should've been understood in these matters, and in all matters is that SS's personal choices of relationship and sexual life is PERSONAL AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH MAXINE DESIRE OF EXISTENCE. Why have beef with that?

I don't understand why and how supposed long members have the time, liberty, and spiritual composition to create disputes and jewish vortexes of energy riping to all SS, because of their ego purposes needing validation. This is about community and the Satanic world, not your personal view of that. Your personal view and statistics have nothing to do here, as they are not needed. There was a problem to be solved here or what? Do Jack and other SS who do not meditate suddenly resolve the world problems in articles on the internet? Are they saviors of what? As far as I see it, there's only doomsday preaching.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

If Jack were a woman and posting shit about men all the time, he would have been banned. So why is he allowed to stay? And yes, people have been banned for less, so why is he still here? Oh that's right, because it is still acceptable for men to be misogynists, but at the slightest hint of (((feminism))) that's where the line is drawn and pitchforks are drawn. I really wish HPS Maxine was still active here.

I don't think Jack is a jew, but he does act like one: he twists what people say, ignores what he can't answer and keeps harping on statistics and what he has already said, tries to mentally wear down people to influence them to give up, and so on. These are jewish tactics, so he probably has lawyers or brahmins in his family, as they study these tactics well. He is definitely not a Satanic soul and does not belong here. He only cares about pushing his own beliefs and winning arguments. This is the JOY OF SATAN, not the "joy of right-wingers taking over the world", as he has written before. And all his other bullshit, which does not belong in a Satanic forum.

And fyi, while I have been ignoring most of this, I have seen some beef between him and Jrvan. I just want to say, Jrvan is 666x the man Jack is. Jrvan is a Satanic soul, this is obvious.

I repeat: THESE FORUMS ARE FOR SATANISTS.

To add my opinion.

While I support the above to a personal degree (as in already fed up with pointless bullshit and alpha male wannabes), my question is, why does every one of you take at face value and personally what Jack's marketing tactics espouse.

It is very clear that Jack in question does not have too much experience with women, social life, and the actual psychology of the masses. He tries to make amends the limited rationality of statistics with the organic reality of life and interactions. He also doesn't understand how females in general and in specifics do not apply to the limited view of frustrated men, or the opposite types of men.

I will never understand the discussion on men and women, neither from a social or political standpoint, without the premise and actual problems deriving from lack of self-worth, lack of contemplation, and maturity or mental problems. He projects his own view from an ill standpoint of life regarding these matters as a form of supposed contribution and savior syndrome.

The above tactics and way to be was evidential in an argument I had with him on suicide as well: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=170937#p170937

The purpose of discussions is to help each other and be inspired by others. As Lydia said, this is a Satanic and Advancement-focused forum. Repeated focus on political and personal vendettas because the world doesn't fit you, and you don't understand a greater perceptive view is not on the table for others to be hurt by. Jack has been attacked also in the past, but I suggest for everyone to understand greater and actually get to know what makes a person do the above. To say it straight, Jack is in no authority to be listened to in these subjects, so why the focus on him. Same for the opposite.

The first thing that should've been understood in these matters, and in all matters is that SS's personal choices of relationship and sexual life is PERSONAL AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH MAXINE DESIRE OF EXISTENCE. Why have beef with that?

I don't understand why and how supposed long members have the time, liberty, and spiritual composition to create disputes and jewish vortexes of energy riping to all SS, because of their ego purposes needing validation. This is about community and the Satanic world, not your personal view of that. Your personal view and statistics have nothing to do here, as they are not needed. There was a problem to be solved here or what? Do Jack and other SS who do not meditate suddenly resolve the world problems in articles on the internet? Are they saviors of what? As far as I see it, there's only doomsday preaching.

Yes it is clear but it keeps constantly being approved by the moderator, and he constantly posts his BS views on any topic that is only slightly positive for women.

As a woman and as a SS, and like other women have said, we do not feel comfortable, nor do we feel like we can speak freely if we're constantly met with these kind of disgusting comments and behavior. Not from our own women (bad comments about how men are all dicks) but especially not from the so called 'men' on the forum that are even protecting that bad behavior of their own.

I wonder how many men have actually commented on their own brothers that their views are incorrect. Because Ive read quite a few topics were things were said that were either supportive of what was said or in some other way not directly saying what was wrong with it.

I hope that makes the point and reason clear to you, NakedPluto.

 

[Jack]

I've been reading all of this thread and all of the sewing thread and I've had enough. So I am just going to say what I think now.

Jack has derailed a couple of threads in the past with his attitude on women, then the thread on sewing got derailed and this thread already has 2 full pages too.
So at least 200 posts were made just to make him realize things.

At this point it sounds like he's just trolling and purposefully making us mad and making us waste our energy on this.
He's not even putting in the effort to take what we say and overthink it. It's all just 'my views are the absolute truth' kind of nonsense.

So I am going straight up ahead and say it. Jack you're an infiltrator and a Jew. You're trying to spread crap into the forums, spreading fear too.

People have been banned for less than this.

If NOTHING is done, I will go and post pictures of depicting Jews on every single new topic and post that Jack makes.

This is where I draw the line.

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IF Jack turns out to be truly a gentile, he must first prove himself otherwise. Until thats done he's a Jew to me.

If Jack were a woman and posting shit about men all the time, he would have been banned. So why is he allowed to stay? And yes, people have been banned for less, so why is he still here? Oh that's right, because it is still acceptable for men to be misogynists, but at the slightest hint of (((feminism))) that's where the line is drawn and pitchforks are drawn. I really wish HPS Maxine was still active here.

I don't think Jack is a jew, but he does act like one: he twists what people say, ignores what he can't answer and keeps harping on statistics and what he has already said, tries to mentally wear down people to influence them to give up, and so on. These are jewish tactics, so he probably has lawyers or brahmins in his family, as they study these tactics well. He is definitely not a Satanic soul and does not belong here. He only cares about pushing his own beliefs and winning arguments. This is the JOY OF SATAN, not the "joy of right-wingers taking over the world", as he has written before. And all his other bullshit, which does not belong in a Satanic forum.

And fyi, while I have been ignoring most of this, I have seen some beef between him and Jrvan. I just want to say, Jrvan is 666x the man Jack is. Jrvan is a Satanic soul, this is obvious.

I repeat: THESE FORUMS ARE FOR SATANISTS.

I knew that people would come out of the woodworks and attack me without any evidence.

Your just bitter because you got schooled earlier when after claiming to be a National Socialist, you were unaware of basic National Socialist writings and critiques.

 

[Jack]

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I've been reading all of this thread and all of the sewing thread and I've had enough. So I am just going to say what I think now.

Jack has derailed a couple of threads in the past with his attitude on women, then the thread on sewing got derailed and this thread already has 2 full pages too.
So at least 200 posts were made just to make him realize things.

At this point it sounds like he's just trolling and purposefully making us mad and making us waste our energy on this.
He's not even putting in the effort to take what we say and overthink it. It's all just 'my views are the absolute truth' kind of nonsense.

So I am going straight up ahead and say it. Jack you're an infiltrator and a Jew. You're trying to spread crap into the forums, spreading fear too.

People have been banned for less than this.

If NOTHING is done, I will go and post pictures of depicting Jews on every single new topic and post that Jack makes.

This is where I draw the line.

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IF Jack turns out to be truly a gentile, he must first prove himself otherwise. Until thats done he's a Jew to me.

I don't mind if you delete all my posts in that Sewing thread because it was truly unnecessary in that place and that time because that wasn't an appropriate place. So I'll apologize to everyone reading, that was very unnecessary.

I'll apologize for derailing that thread. But I won't apologize for espousing the views that I have because they are True.

There is no such thing as an absolute truth but looking at it from a statistical perspective, it is statistically true which is why I'm able to make blanket statements.

If you're getting mad that's your problem. There is nothing infiltration related that I've pushed. Everything I've said is the dissemination of knowledge that is already present.

I didn't write these books or collect these statistics. If you're mad then find the author's and ask them why they collected these statistics and did these studies.

No one is telling you to waste your time on these threads. You're wasting your own time thinking anything you say will change my views because it won't.

The days of banning for no reason are gone with Mageson.

 

[Jack]

I've been reading all of this thread and all of the sewing thread and I've had enough. So I am just going to say what I think now.

Jack has derailed a couple of threads in the past with his attitude on women, then the thread on sewing got derailed and this thread already has 2 full pages too.
So at least 200 posts were made just to make him realize things.

At this point it sounds like he's just trolling and purposefully making us mad and making us waste our energy on this.
He's not even putting in the effort to take what we say and overthink it. It's all just 'my views are the absolute truth' kind of nonsense.

So I am going straight up ahead and say it. Jack you're an infiltrator and a Jew. You're trying to spread crap into the forums, spreading fear too.

People have been banned for less than this.

If NOTHING is done, I will go and post pictures of depicting Jews on every single new topic and post that Jack makes.

This is where I draw the line.

...
IF Jack turns out to be truly a gentile, he must first prove himself otherwise. Until thats done he's a Jew to me.

If Jack were a woman and posting shit about men all the time, he would have been banned. So why is he allowed to stay? And yes, people have been banned for less, so why is he still here? Oh that's right, because it is still acceptable for men to be misogynists, but at the slightest hint of (((feminism))) that's where the line is drawn and pitchforks are drawn. I really wish HPS Maxine was still active here.

I don't think Jack is a jew, but he does act like one: he twists what people say, ignores what he can't answer and keeps harping on statistics and what he has already said, tries to mentally wear down people to influence them to give up, and so on. These are jewish tactics, so he probably has lawyers or brahmins in his family, as they study these tactics well. He is definitely not a Satanic soul and does not belong here. He only cares about pushing his own beliefs and winning arguments. This is the JOY OF SATAN, not the "joy of right-wingers taking over the world", as he has written before. And all his other bullshit, which does not belong in a Satanic forum.

And fyi, while I have been ignoring most of this, I have seen some beef between him and Jrvan. I just want to say, Jrvan is 666x the man Jack is. Jrvan is a Satanic soul, this is obvious.

I repeat: THESE FORUMS ARE FOR SATANISTS.

To add my opinion.

While I support the above to a personal degree (as in already fed up with pointless bullshit and alpha male wannabes), my question is, why does every one of you take at face value and personally what Jack's marketing tactics espouse.

It is very clear that Jack in question does not have too much experience with women, social life, and the actual psychology of the masses. He tries to make amends the limited rationality of statistics with the organic reality of life and interactions. He also doesn't understand how females in general and in specifics do not apply to the limited view of frustrated men, or the opposite types of men.

I will never understand the discussion on men and women, neither from a social or political standpoint, without the premise and actual problems deriving from lack of self-worth, lack of contemplation, and maturity or mental problems. He projects his own view from an ill standpoint of life regarding these matters as a form of supposed contribution and savior syndrome.

The above tactics and way to be was evidential in an argument I had with him on suicide as well: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=170937#p170937

The purpose of discussions is to help each other and be inspired by others. As Lydia said, this is a Satanic and Advancement-focused forum. Repeated focus on political and personal vendettas because the world doesn't fit you, and you don't understand a greater perceptive view is not on the table for others to be hurt by. Jack has been attacked also in the past, but I suggest for everyone to understand greater and actually get to know what makes a person do the above. To say it straight, Jack is in no authority to be listened to in these subjects, so why the focus on him. Same for the opposite.

The first thing that should've been understood in these matters, and in all matters is that SS's personal choices of relationship and sexual life is PERSONAL AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH MAXINE DESIRE OF EXISTENCE. Why have beef with that?

I don't understand why and how supposed long members have the time, liberty, and spiritual composition to create disputes and jewish vortexes of energy riping to all SS, because of their ego purposes needing validation. This is about community and the Satanic world, not your personal view of that. Your personal view and statistics have nothing to do here, as they are not needed. There was a problem to be solved here or what? Do Jack and other SS who do not meditate suddenly resolve the world problems in articles on the internet? Are they saviors of what? As far as I see it, there's only doomsday preaching.

And what are you doing ?

You and Lydia both waited for an opportune time to see an opening and attack me ,pretending to be a psychologist.

I didn't even remember that thread about Suicide so I can know that youd bring that up after so many years now much, "mature" and "self worth" you have.

I don't personally know you, which is why I'm not going to make assumptions and call you blanket terms.

As I've said many a times in order to solve a problem you have to first understand what caused the problem. And this is exactly what I've been doing throughout my time.

If you don't care about the world or what happens to the general population and only care about spirituality then your viewpoint on anything other than that holds no merit.

If I was really employing marketing tactics, then you wouldn't really know that I was employing marketing tactics. Its only because I'm giving raw hard information devoid of any kind of manipulation why a lot of people have a hard time coming to terms with this.

If you don't care about what I'm saying, why involve yourself in this thread even ? Who are you to make assumptions on my character and my personal life ? Who are you to label me things ? I've never done this to you . Why would you do this to me ? I'm an immature and low worth person ? Or is it you, who waited all this time and attacked me at an opportune time where you saw an opening ?

Again, since I don't know anything about you other than you try your best to write in a way to appear smart while giving basic information like Mageson used to do,I'm not going to make assumptions.

If you don't like me, then put me on the ignore list. Trying to ban me because you personally don't like me is just a low blow ,which I didn't think you were capable of.

 

[Jack]

Again ,if you get mad, triggered ,sad, unhappy, etc by reading one of my posts,

Then put me on the "Ignore list". Its very simple. Just because you personally don't like me doesn't mean I should be banned to appease you.

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[Lunar Dance 666]

Again ,if you get mad, triggered ,sad, unhappy, etc by reading one of my posts,

Then put me on the "Ignore list". Its very simple. Just because you personally don't like me doesn't mean I should be banned to appease you.

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So you keep up your bad attitude, keep posting crap making new members feel inferior or whatever, behind our backs? Where there is no one that even says anything to make people think differently?

Hell no.

I will not put you on the ignore list.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [SG]]

If Jack were a woman and posting shit about men all the time, he would have been banned. So why is he allowed to stay? And yes, people have been banned for less, so why is he still here? Oh that's right, because it is still acceptable for men to be misogynists, but at the slightest hint of (((feminism))) that's where the line is drawn and pitchforks are drawn. I really wish HPS Maxine was still active here.

I don't think Jack is a jew, but he does act like one: he twists what people say, ignores what he can't answer and keeps harping on statistics and what he has already said, tries to mentally wear down people to influence them to give up, and so on. These are jewish tactics, so he probably has lawyers or brahmins in his family, as they study these tactics well. He is definitely not a Satanic soul and does not belong here. He only cares about pushing his own beliefs and winning arguments. This is the JOY OF SATAN, not the "joy of right-wingers taking over the world", as he has written before. And all his other bullshit, which does not belong in a Satanic forum.

And fyi, while I have been ignoring most of this, I have seen some beef between him and Jrvan. I just want to say, Jrvan is 666x the man Jack is. Jrvan is a Satanic soul, this is obvious.

I repeat: THESE FORUMS ARE FOR SATANISTS.

To add my opinion.

While I support the above to a personal degree (as in already fed up with pointless bullshit and alpha male wannabes), my question is, why does every one of you take at face value and personally what Jack's marketing tactics espouse.

It is very clear that Jack in question does not have too much experience with women, social life, and the actual psychology of the masses. He tries to make amends the limited rationality of statistics with the organic reality of life and interactions. He also doesn't understand how females in general and in specifics do not apply to the limited view of frustrated men, or the opposite types of men.

I will never understand the discussion on men and women, neither from a social or political standpoint, without the premise and actual problems deriving from lack of self-worth, lack of contemplation, and maturity or mental problems. He projects his own view from an ill standpoint of life regarding these matters as a form of supposed contribution and savior syndrome.

The above tactics and way to be was evidential in an argument I had with him on suicide as well: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=170937#p170937

The purpose of discussions is to help each other and be inspired by others. As Lydia said, this is a Satanic and Advancement-focused forum. Repeated focus on political and personal vendettas because the world doesn't fit you, and you don't understand a greater perceptive view is not on the table for others to be hurt by. Jack has been attacked also in the past, but I suggest for everyone to understand greater and actually get to know what makes a person do the above. To say it straight, Jack is in no authority to be listened to in these subjects, so why the focus on him. Same for the opposite.

The first thing that should've been understood in these matters, and in all matters is that SS's personal choices of relationship and sexual life is PERSONAL AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH MAXINE DESIRE OF EXISTENCE. Why have beef with that?

I don't understand why and how supposed long members have the time, liberty, and spiritual composition to create disputes and jewish vortexes of energy riping to all SS, because of their ego purposes needing validation. This is about community and the Satanic world, not your personal view of that. Your personal view and statistics have nothing to do here, as they are not needed. There was a problem to be solved here or what? Do Jack and other SS who do not meditate suddenly resolve the world problems in articles on the internet? Are they saviors of what? As far as I see it, there's only doomsday preaching.

And what are you doing ?

You and Lydia both waited for an opportune time to see an opening and attack me ,pretending to be a psychologist.

I didn't even remember that thread about Suicide so I can know that youd bring that up after so many years now much, "mature" and "self worth" you have.

I don't personally know you, which is why I'm not going to make assumptions and call you blanket terms.

As I've said many a times in order to solve a problem you have to first understand what caused the problem. And this is exactly what I've been doing throughout my time.

If you don't care about the world or what happens to the general population and only care about spirituality then your viewpoint on anything other than that holds no merit.

If I was really employing marketing tactics, then you wouldn't really know that I was employing marketing tactics. Its only because I'm giving raw hard information devoid of any kind of manipulation why a lot of people have a hard time coming to terms with this.

If you don't care about what I'm saying, why involve yourself in this thread even ? Who are you to make assumptions on my character and my personal life ? Who are you to label me things ? I've never done this to you . Why would you do this to me ? I'm an immature and low worth person ? Or is it you, who waited all this time and attacked me at an opportune time where you saw an opening ?

Again, since I don't know anything about you other than you try your best to write in a way to appear smart while giving basic information like Mageson used to do,I'm not going to make assumptions.

If you don't like me, then put me on the ignore list. Trying to ban me because you personally don't like me is just a low blow ,which I didn't think you were capable of.

You create a shitshow then you are wondering what it was all about and still being ignorant. I have to address you since now members want you banned. In my post I didn't attack you, I gave a balanced view on why should people ignore you rather than confront you and then ask for you to be banned. If I was to attack you, I could do that easily, also disprove your arguments and the whole ordeal of shitfest of "facts" and mismatched persona to the wrong table. I'm not taking sides with anyone here, I am here for the well-being of the whole SS people and the public eye, not for you and x. H.P. Cobra already put the nail on these matters addressing you directly.

Since Lydia said those things and Lunar, this takes things on a new level. So you are wondering why am I getting into the thread? Because I can give input as I already gave, in which you lowly dismissed it as basic advice, you lack the awareness that you need the basic advice to build ground upon.

People are calling you a jew, rabbi, not a Satanic soul, but oh vey NakedPluto said blabla, hurt my feeling, didn't expect that from you. In private meditation and in public view I've been supportive of you and mindful, understanding you. But all there is to this is being unrelentless blind to own persona, community health, and overall priorities in life. I'm not here to destroy delusions and clean the dross out of people. This comes from the inner incentives, as "Pluto" comes personally to clean things, might get messy and hurtful. This did not happen.

Jews are getting their tora ready every minute, but mighty Jack gets hard on "educating" people on external matters while blaming the internal, being dismissive, unsupportive, and an enactor of negative forces in the forum under the guise of good faith, while expecting the world to serve a bigger dish to him.

Where is your responsibility for the well-being of the forum, for the things you say, the way you say, and your priorities here? And don't compare me to magestein, remember I haven't called you a jew, but even gave you advice and tried to lessen the things and shitshow.

 

[Eric13]

I wonder how many men have actually commented on their own brothers that their views are incorrect. Because Ive read quite a few topics were things were said that were either supportive of what was said or in some other way not directly saying what was wrong with it.

Myself and many other men have had debates with Jack over the years on his particular views. There was a point when there was a huge debate which many members chimed in including HP Cobra and Mageson. After Mageson was outed as a traitor, it seemed Jack, then 180d and went back to his same old views of men and women and used the fact that Mageson told him his views were wrong as evidence he must be right, as if because Mageson was a traitor, everything he said was false. Which isn’t true.

One thing I’ll say about observing humanity and deducing theories about human nature from observing, is you have to take into account the enemy influence on people. As an example, 20 years ago, rarely did people struggle with gender identity. Now everyone is gender fluid and non binary bla bla bla. This isn’t because it’s their nature but because of confusion and social conditioning. IMO Jacks, views come from observing certain groups of people and then generalizing the whole from those few. I’ve spent most of my adult life traveling all over and meeting people from all walks of life, all ages, races, ect. and it’s clear the stereotypes that are presented by Jack here don’t really hold up in reality. And in the cases where they do, it’s simply enemy programming that causes such insane dynamics between men and women, that clearly are unnatural.

Advice to Jack: Remove karma workings. Something is imprinted that is causing you to stubbornly hold these views. Reflect for a second, we have many many wise and intelligent members here, if over many years your views cause controversy, is it because you actually have superior divine wisdom that our advanced members can’t see? Or maybe are you connecting dots that aren’t really there? Just a thought.

 

[Jack]

To add my opinion.

While I support the above to a personal degree (as in already fed up with pointless bullshit and alpha male wannabes), my question is, why does every one of you take at face value and personally what Jack's marketing tactics espouse.

It is very clear that Jack in question does not have too much experience with women, social life, and the actual psychology of the masses. He tries to make amends the limited rationality of statistics with the organic reality of life and interactions. He also doesn't understand how females in general and in specifics do not apply to the limited view of frustrated men, or the opposite types of men.

I will never understand the discussion on men and women, neither from a social or political standpoint, without the premise and actual problems deriving from lack of self-worth, lack of contemplation, and maturity or mental problems. He projects his own view from an ill standpoint of life regarding these matters as a form of supposed contribution and savior syndrome.

The above tactics and way to be was evidential in an argument I had with him on suicide as well: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=170937#p170937

The purpose of discussions is to help each other and be inspired by others. As Lydia said, this is a Satanic and Advancement-focused forum. Repeated focus on political and personal vendettas because the world doesn't fit you, and you don't understand a greater perceptive view is not on the table for others to be hurt by. Jack has been attacked also in the past, but I suggest for everyone to understand greater and actually get to know what makes a person do the above. To say it straight, Jack is in no authority to be listened to in these subjects, so why the focus on him. Same for the opposite.

The first thing that should've been understood in these matters, and in all matters is that SS's personal choices of relationship and sexual life is PERSONAL AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH MAXINE DESIRE OF EXISTENCE. Why have beef with that?

I don't understand why and how supposed long members have the time, liberty, and spiritual composition to create disputes and jewish vortexes of energy riping to all SS, because of their ego purposes needing validation. This is about community and the Satanic world, not your personal view of that. Your personal view and statistics have nothing to do here, as they are not needed. There was a problem to be solved here or what? Do Jack and other SS who do not meditate suddenly resolve the world problems in articles on the internet? Are they saviors of what? As far as I see it, there's only doomsday preaching.

And what are you doing ?

You and Lydia both waited for an opportune time to see an opening and attack me ,pretending to be a psychologist.

I didn't even remember that thread about Suicide so I can know that youd bring that up after so many years now much, "mature" and "self worth" you have.

I don't personally know you, which is why I'm not going to make assumptions and call you blanket terms.

As I've said many a times in order to solve a problem you have to first understand what caused the problem. And this is exactly what I've been doing throughout my time.

If you don't care about the world or what happens to the general population and only care about spirituality then your viewpoint on anything other than that holds no merit.

If I was really employing marketing tactics, then you wouldn't really know that I was employing marketing tactics. Its only because I'm giving raw hard information devoid of any kind of manipulation why a lot of people have a hard time coming to terms with this.

If you don't care about what I'm saying, why involve yourself in this thread even ? Who are you to make assumptions on my character and my personal life ? Who are you to label me things ? I've never done this to you . Why would you do this to me ? I'm an immature and low worth person ? Or is it you, who waited all this time and attacked me at an opportune time where you saw an opening ?

Again, since I don't know anything about you other than you try your best to write in a way to appear smart while giving basic information like Mageson used to do,I'm not going to make assumptions.

If you don't like me, then put me on the ignore list. Trying to ban me because you personally don't like me is just a low blow ,which I didn't think you were capable of.

You create a shitshow then you are wondering what it was all about and still being ignorant. I have to address you since now members want you banned. In my post I didn't attack you, I gave a balanced view on why should people ignore you rather than confront you and then ask for you to be banned. If I was to attack you, I could do that easily, also disprove your arguments and the whole ordeal of shitfest of "facts" and mismatched persona to the wrong table. I'm not taking sides with anyone here, I am here for the well-being of the whole SS people and the public eye, not for you and x. H.P. Cobra already put the nail on these matters addressing you directly.

Since Lydia said those things and Lunar, this takes things on a new level. So you are wondering why am I getting into the thread? Because I can give input as I already gave, in which you lowly dismissed it as basic advice, you lack the awareness that you need the basic advice to build ground upon.

People are calling you a jew, rabbi, not a Satanic soul, but oh vey NakedPluto said blabla, hurt my feeling, didn't expect that from you. In private meditation and in public view I've been supportive of you and mindful, understanding you. But all there is to this is being unrelentless blind to own persona, community health, and overall priorities in life. I'm not here to destroy delusions and clean the dross out of people. This comes from the inner incentives, as "Pluto" comes personally to clean things, might get messy and hurtful. This did not happen.

Jews are getting their tora ready every minute, but mighty Jack gets hard on "educating" people on external matters while blaming the internal, being dismissive, unsupportive, and an enactor of negative forces in the forum under the guise of good faith, while expecting the world to serve a bigger dish to him.

Where is your responsibility for the well-being of the forum, for the things you say, the way you say, and your priorities here? And don't compare me to magestein, remember I haven't called you a jew, but even gave you advice and tried to lessen the things and shitshow.

The people who are against me can be counted on one hand. There is no shitshow. Its only the same individuals who have a problem with me. No one else is attacking me other than those who have been attacking me for years.

Let the public decide whatever side they choose or if they don't choose either or don't care. Let it flow organically and let them decide for themselves.

I do my RTRs and meditation every day and I'm well completing all my personal goals. I don't have any problems in my private life. I'm pretty well balanced in all respects.

If I was going to change my rhetoric, I would have already done so ,like I've done many times before. If I was doing something wrong, then Divine Providence would change me by showing me the path like it has always done and never failed me.

I'm putting out a worldview which I've settled upon. If you don't like it ,just ignore me.

I'll be here, bringing awareness like I always have done.

 

[Paladin of Khepu]

If Jack were a woman and posting shit about men all the time, he would have been banned. So why is he allowed to stay? And yes, people have been banned for less, so why is he still here? Oh that's right, because it is still acceptable for men to be misogynists, but at the slightest hint of (((feminism))) that's where the line is drawn and pitchforks are drawn. I really wish HPS Maxine was still active here.

I don't think Jack is a jew, but he does act like one: he twists what people say, ignores what he can't answer and keeps harping on statistics and what he has already said, tries to mentally wear down people to influence them to give up, and so on. These are jewish tactics, so he probably has lawyers or brahmins in his family, as they study these tactics well. He is definitely not a Satanic soul and does not belong here. He only cares about pushing his own beliefs and winning arguments. This is the JOY OF SATAN, not the "joy of right-wingers taking over the world", as he has written before. And all his other bullshit, which does not belong in a Satanic forum.

And fyi, while I have been ignoring most of this, I have seen some beef between him and Jrvan. I just want to say, Jrvan is 666x the man Jack is. Jrvan is a Satanic soul, this is obvious.

I repeat: THESE FORUMS ARE FOR SATANISTS.

To add my opinion.

While I support the above to a personal degree (as in already fed up with pointless bullshit and alpha male wannabes), my question is, why does every one of you take at face value and personally what Jack's marketing tactics espouse.

It is very clear that Jack in question does not have too much experience with women, social life, and the actual psychology of the masses. He tries to make amends the limited rationality of statistics with the organic reality of life and interactions. He also doesn't understand how females in general and in specifics do not apply to the limited view of frustrated men, or the opposite types of men.

I will never understand the discussion on men and women, neither from a social or political standpoint, without the premise and actual problems deriving from lack of self-worth, lack of contemplation, and maturity or mental problems. He projects his own view from an ill standpoint of life regarding these matters as a form of supposed contribution and savior syndrome.

The above tactics and way to be was evidential in an argument I had with him on suicide as well: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=170937#p170937

The purpose of discussions is to help each other and be inspired by others. As Lydia said, this is a Satanic and Advancement-focused forum. Repeated focus on political and personal vendettas because the world doesn't fit you, and you don't understand a greater perceptive view is not on the table for others to be hurt by. Jack has been attacked also in the past, but I suggest for everyone to understand greater and actually get to know what makes a person do the above. To say it straight, Jack is in no authority to be listened to in these subjects, so why the focus on him. Same for the opposite.

The first thing that should've been understood in these matters, and in all matters is that SS's personal choices of relationship and sexual life is PERSONAL AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH MAXINE DESIRE OF EXISTENCE. Why have beef with that?

I don't understand why and how supposed long members have the time, liberty, and spiritual composition to create disputes and jewish vortexes of energy riping to all SS, because of their ego purposes needing validation. This is about community and the Satanic world, not your personal view of that. Your personal view and statistics have nothing to do here, as they are not needed. There was a problem to be solved here or what? Do Jack and other SS who do not meditate suddenly resolve the world problems in articles on the internet? Are they saviors of what? As far as I see it, there's only doomsday preaching.

Yes it is clear but it keeps constantly being approved by the moderator, and he constantly posts his BS views on any topic that is only slightly positive for women.

As a woman and as a SS, and like other women have said, we do not feel comfortable, nor do we feel like we can speak freely if we're constantly met with these kind of disgusting comments and behavior. Not from our own women (bad comments about how men are all dicks) but especially not from the so called 'men' on the forum that are even protecting that bad behavior of their own.

I wonder how many men have actually commented on their own brothers that their views are incorrect. Because Ive read quite a few topics were things were said that were either supportive of what was said or in some other way not directly saying what was wrong with it.

I hope that makes the point and reason clear to you, NakedPluto.

I haven’t commented because I know how Jack is. He acts like a MGTOW supporter. I understand some parts of their movement, but I don’t agree with all of it. Just like with the Feminist Movement. I don’t agree with all of it but I understand their concerns. Unfortunately Jack has posted constantly on something he hasn’t experienced nor will for that matter. We are SS, and if his projections are that of the enemy, ignore him as it is necessary and actually healthy to do so.

Jack, if you are truly a supporter of Spiritual Satanism, desist from your actions and act like an SS. Otherwise, silence yourself and advance without trying to input something that obviously you are still new to. You are creating a disturbance and that is not tolerated from any self respecting SS regardless of their gender.

Lunar Dance, I’ll say this, let us focus on ourselves and advance to raise our serpent. Whatever idiots want to keep up with their projections or projections of others, let them. They shouldn’t concern themselves.

That goes for you, Jrvan, Tabby, Lydia, NakedPluto, and anyone else who actually shows advancement. This topic was useful at first, but it turned haywire.

SoutherwhiteGentile, you of all people that you are just bandwagoning with Jack because he is ‘supposedly’ advanced. Get yourself together sir. You dare call yourself an Aryan and do idiotic things that you know very well we all don’t agree with it. Grow and advance brother, your just defeating yourself by going backwards.

Siege Heil.

 

[Jack]

To add my opinion.

While I support the above to a personal degree (as in already fed up with pointless bullshit and alpha male wannabes), my question is, why does every one of you take at face value and personally what Jack's marketing tactics espouse.

It is very clear that Jack in question does not have too much experience with women, social life, and the actual psychology of the masses. He tries to make amends the limited rationality of statistics with the organic reality of life and interactions. He also doesn't understand how females in general and in specifics do not apply to the limited view of frustrated men, or the opposite types of men.

I will never understand the discussion on men and women, neither from a social or political standpoint, without the premise and actual problems deriving from lack of self-worth, lack of contemplation, and maturity or mental problems. He projects his own view from an ill standpoint of life regarding these matters as a form of supposed contribution and savior syndrome.

The above tactics and way to be was evidential in an argument I had with him on suicide as well: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=170937#p170937

The purpose of discussions is to help each other and be inspired by others. As Lydia said, this is a Satanic and Advancement-focused forum. Repeated focus on political and personal vendettas because the world doesn't fit you, and you don't understand a greater perceptive view is not on the table for others to be hurt by. Jack has been attacked also in the past, but I suggest for everyone to understand greater and actually get to know what makes a person do the above. To say it straight, Jack is in no authority to be listened to in these subjects, so why the focus on him. Same for the opposite.

The first thing that should've been understood in these matters, and in all matters is that SS's personal choices of relationship and sexual life is PERSONAL AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH MAXINE DESIRE OF EXISTENCE. Why have beef with that?

I don't understand why and how supposed long members have the time, liberty, and spiritual composition to create disputes and jewish vortexes of energy riping to all SS, because of their ego purposes needing validation. This is about community and the Satanic world, not your personal view of that. Your personal view and statistics have nothing to do here, as they are not needed. There was a problem to be solved here or what? Do Jack and other SS who do not meditate suddenly resolve the world problems in articles on the internet? Are they saviors of what? As far as I see it, there's only doomsday preaching.

Yes it is clear but it keeps constantly being approved by the moderator, and he constantly posts his BS views on any topic that is only slightly positive for women.

As a woman and as a SS, and like other women have said, we do not feel comfortable, nor do we feel like we can speak freely if we're constantly met with these kind of disgusting comments and behavior. Not from our own women (bad comments about how men are all dicks) but especially not from the so called 'men' on the forum that are even protecting that bad behavior of their own.

I wonder how many men have actually commented on their own brothers that their views are incorrect. Because Ive read quite a few topics were things were said that were either supportive of what was said or in some other way not directly saying what was wrong with it.

I hope that makes the point and reason clear to you, NakedPluto.

I haven’t commented because I know how Jack is. He acts like a MGTOW supporter. I understand some parts of their movement, but I don’t agree with all of it. Just like with the Feminist Movement. I don’t agree with all of it but I understand their concerns. Unfortunately Jack has posted constantly on something he hasn’t experienced nor will for that matter. We are SS, and if his projections are that of the enemy, ignore him as it is necessary and actually healthy to do so.

Jack, if you are truly a supporter of Spiritual Satanism, desist from your actions and act like an SS. Otherwise, silence yourself and advance without trying to input something that obviously you are still new to. You are creating a disturbance and that is not tolerated from any self respecting SS regardless of their gender.

Lunar Dance, I’ll say this, let us focus on ourselves and advance to raise our serpent. Whatever idiots want to keep up with their projections or projections of others, let them. They shouldn’t concern themselves.

That goes for you, Jrvan, Tabby, Lydia, NakedPluto, and anyone else who actually shows advancement. This topic was useful at first, but it turned haywire.

SoutherwhiteGentile, you of all people that you are just bandwagoning with Jack because he is ‘supposedly’ advanced. Get yourself together sir. You dare call yourself an Aryan and do idiotic things that you know very well we all don’t agree with it. Grow and advance brother, your just defeating yourself by going backwards.

Siege Heil.

If you're an SS then you also have to accept the National Socialist ir Hitlerlian view of Gender. You can't be a Nazi while also ignoring Adolf Hitler's views on Gender relations.

There is nothing MGTOW about what I have posted. This conversation isn't even vaguely related to the topics they talk about. MGTOWS have issues of not being able to attract women due to their inadequacies. Their Movement has nothing to do with Whites or Nationalism or Right Wingers. These things I'm saying have been corroborated by National Socialists (Nazis) German and American.l who formulated the viewpoints that I'm speaking about.

If you're claiming just to be a Spiritualist ,then that's okay because at that point you have no stake or say In a National political movement or with general people. I am not just a Spiritualist. I also accept Nazism as my personal belief system so of course I'm going to take facts and writings that support Nazism and its viewpoint and propagate them. If you don't want to get political just don't get involved.

 

[Jack]

Here is what Adolf Hitler, the prophet of Nazism and Satanism had to say on this topic,

Adolf Hitler :

“The slogan ’emancipation of women’ was invented by Jewish intellectuals, and its content was formed by the same spirit. In the really good times of German life, the German woman had no need to emancipate herself. She possessed exactly what nature had given her to administer and preserve; just as the man in his good times had no need to fear that he would be ousted from his position in relation to the woman.

Hitler here makes these points
There is no need for any emancipation of women. At that time Feminists were fighting for being able to get financial independence and being able to exist without being married. At that time the third wave or second wave feminism wasn't even born. Hitler is arguing that the current status of the German woman as being financially dependent upon her husband is what is natural and Female emancipation (the ability to be financially independent) is a Jewish invention.

If the man’s world is said to be the State, his struggle, his readiness to devote his powers to the service of the community, then it may perhaps be said that the woman’s is a smaller world. For her world is her husband, her family, her children, and her home. But what would become of the greater world if there were no one to tend and care for the smaller one? How could the greater world survive if there were no one to make the cares of the smaller world the content of their lives?

Hitler says that a womans world is secluded within her family life while the man has to work and dedicate his life to the state.

No, the greater world is built on the foundation of this smaller world. This great world cannot survive if the smaller world is not stable. Providence has entrusted to the woman the cares of that world which is her very own, and only on the basis of this smaller world can the man’s world be formed and built up. The two worlds are not antagonistic. They complement each other, they belong together just as man and woman belong together.

Women and men have different roles which are lock and key with each other.

We do not consider it correct for the woman to interfere in the world of the man, in his main sphere. We consider it natural if these two worlds remain distinct. To the one belongs the strength of feeling, the strength of the soul. To the other belongs the strength of vision, of toughness, of decision, and of the willingness to act. In the one case this strength demands the willingness of the woman to risk her life to preserve this important cell and to multiply it, and in the other case it demands from the man the readiness to safeguard life.

Hitler says the role of the man is to lead and make hard decisions in the relationship(toughness of decisions, willingness to act ,strength of vision. ) The role of the woman is to support her man and hold it down (Strength of soul.)

The sacrifices which the man makes in the struggle of his nation, the woman makes in the preservation of that nation in individual cases. What the man gives in courage on the battlefield, the woman gives in eternal self-sacrifice, in eternal pain and suffering. Every child that a woman brings into the world is a battle, a battle waged for the existence of her people. And both must therefore mutually value and respect each other when they see that each performs the task that Nature and Providence have ordained. And this mutual respect will necessarily result from this separation of the functions of each.

Hitler makes it very clear that women must sacrifice and create children dedicated to the nation.

It is not true, as Jewish intellectuals assert, that respect depends on the overlapping of the spheres of activity of the sexes; this respect demands that neither sex should try to do that which belongs to the sphere of the other. It lies in the last resort in the fact that each knows that the other is doing everything necessary to maintain the whole community. So our women’s movement is for us not something which inscribes on its banner as its program the fight against men, but something which has as its program the common fight together with men. For the new National Socialist national community acquires a firm basis, precisely because we have gained the trust of millions of women as fanatical comrades…

Hitler says Mens sphere of influence (work,politics) cannot overlap with the Womans sphere of influence

Whereas previously the programs of the liberal, intellectualist women’s movements contained many points, the program of our National Socialist women’s movement has but one single point, and that point is the child, that tiny creature which must be born and grow strong and which alone gives meaning to the whole life-struggle.”

Hitler makes it abundantly clear that the greatest purpose of the woman is in giving children.

Hitler's policies in response to Employment of Women -

Women in employment

While the Nazis depicted German mothers as national heroes, single women and working women were treated as second-class citizens.

Hitler was full of scorn for women in paid employment. He called this a Marxist ploy, an attempt to clad women in overalls and work boots to strip them of their femininity.

This derision for single and working women was reflected in policy. Unmarried women were viewed by the law as Staatsangehoriger (‘subjects of the state’).

When the Nazis took power in 1933, there were 100,000 female teachers and 3,000 female doctors working in Germany. Most were eventually sacked, forced to resign or pushed into marriage and motherhood.

From 1936, women were prohibited from working as judges, lawyers, principals and a range of other professions. Women were also removed from high-ranking or influential positions in government agencies, charities, schools and hospitals, to be replaced by men. University and college places for women were restricted to a firm quota of 10 per cent.

Hitler didn't believe that women could be Judges ,Frontline Combat Soldiers, or lawyers or make hard decisions. Or be Political leaders.

Hitler says -

If I think to myself that a woman shall make an appearance at an adjudication (legal ruling or judgment) . When that would be a woman who would be close to me. And if I had to imagine, my mother would still be alive and has to sit in front of a murder in a court and decide the verdict.

Never! NEVER ! We don't want that !

I also don't want an uninformed police to walk around and run after scamps and criminals. These are all things we actually don't want. Naturally they come and promptly say "Excue me.But you don't let them inside the parliamens as well."

Certainly but because i am convinced that the parliament doesn't raise the value of a woman. But it would only degrade her. I removed the men from the parliamentary service as well.

In former times I was also told "Don't you think that if you got women into the reichstag ,the women would refine the manners of the reichstag and thereby, then ". I have no interest in refining the reichstag or refining its manners because if a honored, knighted or enobled is ranting or not that is entirely the same.

When I look at newspapers I see headlines such as this "A womans battalion in the Soviet union or a Women's grenadier battalion in Spain.

All I can say to the representatives of this kind of female equality Is :
I would not be a Man, If i were to tolerate such a thing.
...
The idea that a girl or a woman has to take upon herself ,I would have no respect for the German men then !.Either they take responsibility for this or they resign!

As long as we have a healthy male gender and we National Socialists will ensure there will be no female sharpshooters or grenadiers trained in Germany.

That's no equality but in reality inferior rights for women. Because it's harder for women than men. For her it's much more terrible than men. I would just say I'm arming children and sending them to war. We don't want that.

But before our eyes there is a vast expanse of job opportunities for women. Because for us, the woman has been the most faithful worker and life companion for the man ,at all times.

They always said
"You want to remove women from all professions. "
On the contrary I will only give her the chance to being able to get married and to assist her to give birth to her own family and to have children.

Because this is my conviction now -
Benefits our people the most Ofcourse.
For that is Clear !

And you have to understand it from me -
"If I had a female lawyer infront of me and it doesn't matter how much she has achieved and next to her is a mother of five, six ,seven children and they are in great health and well educated by her.

Then I have to say ,from the eternal point of view from the eternal value of our people ,the woman who has children and has raised them and thereby gave our people the ability to live in the future -
Has achieved more.

https://www.goyimtv.tv/v/1563637376/Adolf-Hitler-on-Women

Why is Adolf Hitler so edgy and says that he doesn't care about a womans professional achievements and cares only about her being a mother ?

Why is Adolf Hitler removing women from jobs, capping universities attendees to 10% ,not allowing them to be in leadership positions ?

Why is he giving speeches saying that the only job he will allow women to do is to be a mother ?

Even I'm not arguing for removing the women from these jobs as he did.

Adolf Hitler certainly is very misogynistic, biased etc etc isn't he ?

Take some time to process this before saying its "Fake, the policies are fake, the quotes are fake, the speeches are fake."

It's all real. Adolf Hitler the prophet of Humanity, the CHOSEN ONE SAID AND DID ALL THIS.

These are not my words. This is Adolf Hitler's words.

These aren't my policies. This is Adolf Hitler's policies.

These are not my views. I have just accepted them from the Chosen one.

I trust 100% in Adolf Hitler and thus I trust everything that he has done or said. Most of Hitler's views and the reasoning behind them have been proven by Scientists since then.

And that is all that the studies show. Nothing more.

 

[tabby]

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And thankfully in the world where we're moving in there is going to be an extreme scarcity of eligible men and a lawyer friend of my showed me a loophole where I could marry two women. So that's going to be another thing to look forward to in the future where it will be completely acceptable (it already is) for a man to have multiple women.

Doing a double take here.

Firstly, what makes you believe that there will be an extreme scarcity of eligible men?
And secondly, I'm not interested in other human males so this has no relevance to me as to what you're doing in order to gain multiple human wives, or do you enjoy deliberately ignoring the fact that I have a Demon relationship and carrying on with your fake narrative that I'm fucking a horde of human men?

It's funny how smug your energy feels on this when it doesn't have any connection to me and my sex life.

It doesn't matter if it's a demon relationship or a human relationship. Sexual exclusivity is being broken which means cuckoldry is taking place. Its unfaithfulness ,Period.

Human Females are not birds and are not Polygamous. They are hypergamous by nature and they have a natural pairbonding mechanism which gives sexual exclusivity to one Male. Going against this is going against natural instincts of jealousy, which makes it unnatural. These natural instincts are there for a reason.

Swingers and polyamory is similarly unnatural. The only situation where polyandy happens is in extreme situations where there are a severe scarcity of women which is noticed in certain Asian tribes.

There's nothing I have to change for because I'm the best version of myself and everything I believe in is by this time 100% correct. I would change if you showed me what I was saying was in anyway false,but as youve shown your incapable of critical debate .I've gone through different variations of views and ended up accepting the eventual results which could not be disproved further in any way. There is nothing wrong that I've done and I'm not going to apologize for anything because I've done nothing wrong.

You need to look for your own faults and rectify them which causes you to be with an inadequate male who can't satisfy you sexually and let's you have sex with other men. Your projecting your own hatred of women onto the general populace because you want everyone to be as miserable as you are.

I wouldn't take a cuck and his wife seriously even if it was the end of the world. This hilarious derangement syndrome has gone on for far too long.

If you want to continue to be retarded ,then please be my guest. But your going on the ignore list since nothing you or your husband have said within weeks has been of any significance and your just wasting my time at this point.

Ofcourse if we have to rectify a problem we have to look at a root cause - by studying how the jews destroyed the family unit and tanked the birthrate through female liberation. It's not nagging its dissecting and studying a problem. Just saying "Its the Jews" doesn't mean shit if you don't understand exactly what these jews have done. And in order to rectify it, we have to reverse it.

There is nothing liberating about a woman getting financially independent or working at a dead end job. She is liberated when a man is taking care of her, and her responsibility is only to her children. That is when she is always happy and the statistics show this.

I've had enough of stupid millennials with no real life experience who live in a fantasy land created by Jewish TV Shows refuse to accept hard facts of reality. If you can't that's okay. But I can't take this stupid conversation anymore where you refuse to accept basic facts of reality.

Now you spit on even Demon relationships. If you think I’m going to let you freely insult even HIS relationships without backlash, you truly are insane. You piece of shit.

You would rather paint me as some retarded slut just because of your stupid world views about women, instead of being a fucking respectable SS man.

It doesn’t take much to sense behind your eyes and see how much insanity and delusional energy is surrounding your sight.

You’re not a female, are you? Are you a qualified biologist/psychologist with a risen serpent? I highly doubt it. So what right do you have to claim as “hard fact” what’s natural for women or what makes women happy?

How far are you going to go to label everything else as wrong and you as completely utterly undoubtedly right? How far are you going to go cowering and lying just to get your way without consequences? How long will it be before you are satisfied with the amount of time you’ve stood on the soap box insulting and slandering our people? How many good things are you going to ruin before you’re pleased with yourself? How many of our personal lives are you going to weaponise before you get your shit together? How much advice are you going to be given by everyone who can see right through you before you do anything to improve yourself?

You of all the people here have argued the most illogically and emotionally and resorted to personal attacks when you’ve got nothing to fight back with. Go ahead and block the people who are pointing out your bullshit and continue to shrink-wrap yourself in your basement. At least then your toxicity will be contained.

I refuse to bow to your insanity, Jack. Keep gaslighting, making up a narrative to justify your shit, and attention whoring, it’s the only trick you’ve got. I didn’t deal with gaslighters and insane people for years to let those like you get so easily into my head and try convince me over and over that I’m “retarded”. You use other people’s arguments against you and twist it into your own as if you were the one who came up with it, and attempt to throw it back at them.

Many people with real life experience have showed you that a number of your claims are wrong, but it’s not good enough for you, and you have attacked every one of us who has tried and spoken out against your nonsense, except the HP. Good to know you’re not stupid enough to do that.

You can’t even answer back properly as to why you defended mine and jrvan’s relationships back then against SWG who was spouting crap that he was a cuck, and turn on us now. You’re a joke and a liar.

You want to be King but we are not your land to own and reap as you please.

I’m not even a millennial, you insensitive bible.

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

SoutherwhiteGentile, you of all people that you are just bandwagoning with Jack because he is ‘supposedly’ advanced. Get yourself together sir. You dare call yourself an Aryan and do idiotic things that you know very well we all don’t agree with it. Grow and advance brother, your just defeating yourself by going backwards.

Siege Heil.

How is this bandwagoning? I wouldn’t care if Jack is banned or disappeared I’ll still say what I believe in even if I stand alone. It seems there’s an opposite bandwagon going on actually. Take care.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Jack is simply saying the same things Neo Nazis and some xtian conservatives say. A lot of what he says sounds like what your told in church only replacing Jewsus or gawd with Satan whites and Hitler.

How long till he tries to tell us Jewsus exists and deserves a place in the section on Demons or something.

People should have seen this long ago I did but gave up on trying to comment on it cause no one believed me.

 

[Paladin of Khepu]

Yes it is clear but it keeps constantly being approved by the moderator, and he constantly posts his BS views on any topic that is only slightly positive for women.

As a woman and as a SS, and like other women have said, we do not feel comfortable, nor do we feel like we can speak freely if we're constantly met with these kind of disgusting comments and behavior. Not from our own women (bad comments about how men are all dicks) but especially not from the so called 'men' on the forum that are even protecting that bad behavior of their own.

I wonder how many men have actually commented on their own brothers that their views are incorrect. Because Ive read quite a few topics were things were said that were either supportive of what was said or in some other way not directly saying what was wrong with it.

I hope that makes the point and reason clear to you, NakedPluto.

I haven’t commented because I know how Jack is. He acts like a MGTOW supporter. I understand some parts of their movement, but I don’t agree with all of it. Just like with the Feminist Movement. I don’t agree with all of it but I understand their concerns. Unfortunately Jack has posted constantly on something he hasn’t experienced nor will for that matter. We are SS, and if his projections are that of the enemy, ignore him as it is necessary and actually healthy to do so.

Jack, if you are truly a supporter of Spiritual Satanism, desist from your actions and act like an SS. Otherwise, silence yourself and advance without trying to input something that obviously you are still new to. You are creating a disturbance and that is not tolerated from any self respecting SS regardless of their gender.

Lunar Dance, I’ll say this, let us focus on ourselves and advance to raise our serpent. Whatever idiots want to keep up with their projections or projections of others, let them. They shouldn’t concern themselves.

That goes for you, Jrvan, Tabby, Lydia, NakedPluto, and anyone else who actually shows advancement. This topic was useful at first, but it turned haywire.

SoutherwhiteGentile, you of all people that you are just bandwagoning with Jack because he is ‘supposedly’ advanced. Get yourself together sir. You dare call yourself an Aryan and do idiotic things that you know very well we all don’t agree with it. Grow and advance brother, your just defeating yourself by going backwards.

Siege Heil.

If you're an SS then you also have to accept the National Socialist ir Hitlerlian view of Gender. You can't be a Nazi while also ignoring Adolf Hitler's views on Gender relations.

There is nothing MGTOW about what I have posted. This conversation isn't even vaguely related to the topics they talk about. MGTOWS have issues of not being able to attract women due to their inadequacies. Their Movement has nothing to do with Whites or Nationalism or Right Wingers. These things I'm saying have been corroborated by National Socialists (Nazis) German and American.l who formulated the viewpoints that I'm speaking about.

If you're claiming just to be a Spiritualist ,then that's okay because at that point you have no stake or say In a National political movement or with general people. I am not just a Spiritualist. I also accept Nazism as my personal belief system so of course I'm going to take facts and writings that support Nazism and its viewpoint and propagate them. If you don't want to get political just don't get involved.

You do know that National Socialist principles are rooted in being a Spiritual Satanist right? Secondly you are correct to a point about MGTOW, however it is also a point to note that it’s also regarded to how men feel about females, some of which is rooted with your generalized outlook on the female/male relationship. I am an SS if you are doubtful, surprising how you may think otherwise is not even worth looking into.

Regardless Jack, it matters little. your point and other points were made, it would be worthwhile to just keep advancing dude. This topic was as I said in another post useful, but it became a crackpot after ones ideals are posted as a whole. You are trying to convince and in a way conform an ideal that you still don’t understand deeply. You understand the superficial external side of it all my brother. That’s not all there is to it.


You use Nazism like that’s all. That’s why I don’t think you’ve advanced that much Jack. Your views haven’t changed for the better unless everyone is getting on your ass. Even then you keep those ideals rooted in you. Remember those White National Socialist were viewers and purveyors of the age that needed it the most. It is needed now but there is also the lack of spiritual knowledge that is keeping the full flourish of being a National Socialist/Spiritual Satanist. Otherwise it’s just counterproductive. You can’t just be one dimensional.

 

[Paladin of Khepu]

SoutherwhiteGentile, you of all people that you are just bandwagoning with Jack because he is ‘supposedly’ advanced. Get yourself together sir. You dare call yourself an Aryan and do idiotic things that you know very well we all don’t agree with it. Grow and advance brother, your just defeating yourself by going backwards.

Siege Heil.

How is this bandwagoning? I wouldn’t care if Jack is banned or disappeared I’ll still say what I believe in even if I stand alone. It seems there’s an opposite bandwagon going on actually. Take care.

Your views coincide with his @SWG. These viewpoints are fine and well for the time they are needed, but it goes to far when it becomes a habit that can’t be applied all the time. Also it was the bandwagon of targeting Jrvan. We are resorting to targeting unnecessarily

 

[Fuchs]

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Statistics are statistics, they have no importans to a singel Individual.

It is hard enouth, to really make a singel wimmen happy all the time, now imagine to treat 4 wimmen all equal without limiting them in any way, e.g. treating them bad and furfill thear desires, love, passion, ..., fully.

Only a happy mother can be a strong good mother for thear children, so the children can become thear best self, which will ultimatly lead to a better society/race.

I could only imagine if the wimmen involved are bisexual and are realy not jealous, this could work.

Also from the child perspective if most men would grow up seeing thear dad having 4 wifes, they would probably think if they don´t have also 4 wifes they are less of a men. Which is of course false.

From a satanic national socialist point of view the goal is to improve the race, if one men does this with one wife, it is fine, if a nother one can do this, with 4 wifes, this is equally fine, not better or somehow a greater achivement.

It is ok to read statistics, try to use science to improve the race, but if you present your results in ways, on its own creating problems for your inital goal to achive this is counterproductive.

If you Jack, are the best you, if you marry 4 wimmen, which you somehow manage to make happy, whithout them ripping each other apart, produce healthy offspring, it´s fine, but don´t try to say this is somehow a spiritual goal, a must have for all advanced men members.

Not much experienced men, tent to listen to the loudest alpha male. They change thear behavour, this does repell a suitabel good future wife, destroys a possibel good offspring.

That´s the reason some females here, don´t like your idears, they don´t want thear perfect, possibel compassionate monogamous future husband to go polygamous, have to share him because he is/thinks he is advanced.

They in a way protect the more shy men to stay the way they are. A shy men can be a equaly good father/men then someone who can manage 4 wimmen. If he can defend his wife and children.

We should have adressed the issue:
From a satanic national socialist point of view the goal is to improve the race, if one men does this with one wife, it is fine, if a nother one can do this, with 4 wifes, this is equally fine, not better or somehow a greater achivement/spiritual goal.

Made it clear, demanted changing future behaviour, not just ask for puplic executions/e.g. bans.

Lydia, as a astrologer you know people are different, these differences are the reason live is enjoabel the exact opposite to the enemy hive mind. We should continue to allow people to express thear opinions/idears and only step in to correct, if they opose the satanic/national socialist spirit/Orion Our Race Is Our Nation. Sometimes you are too involved in something so you write a rage-filled comment. I would never ask you to change this behavour, because this is just they way you are. But the same way Jack was wrong about 4 wifes is the ultimate spiritual goal along with MO, you are rong to demand a bann on someone, who only needed to realise what he is doing is bad for the satanic movement/races/him self.

The overbanning like with Mageson, causes people not express them in the way they want, which can lead to less knowledge chared on the forum along with a overal weaker opposition to the enemy.

We are not enemys, we are allys, let´s fokus our hate on the enemy and resort for our own to reasoning and understanding.