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FancyMancy

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Corrupt LA police shot an innocent Woman
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I am telling everyone the full truth here and not any type of exaggeration when I tell you that, not all, but a large amount of Mexicans and those from close to it's southern border, have been waiting for a day to come to larp and be violent as a manner to take back their so called land. All my life when I had to be around the lower caste of people (lower caste in mind/consciousness as well) they always bragged about being here illegally because they want to "take over the White person's land and property."

Even the legal ones that refuse to be of a higher state of mind because it's "White" to do so have always believed parts of America will be taken back thru force. (Some would even out of the blue, go on to brag about their disgusting crimes they have done back in their home countries as if it was cool to brag about but I digress.)

These are not citizens of a nation that they are in. They are vocally denouncing their citizenship of America if they have it.

Goes without saying that many Mexicans that are legal in America, and I promise you there is a decent size of illegals on the side of Trump as well, are against the riots and against the mindset that California or any other state doesn't belong to America.

The foot has to be set down as many USA haters have planted their feet in America for a couple generations. Raising low level children and grandchildren to hate the country as well.

Don't let the legacy media lie to you that this is about racism or even classism.

It's not.

It's about seditious militants trying to burn the country down and they have a variety of people who are on their side but don't walk under the same banner. Like the communist/socialist parties of America rallying any and all those who hate the idea of America for a "protest".

The legacy media and the riot organizers trick and manipulate these useful idiots and that's what the majority are in these riots, useful idiots (even the morbidly obese organizers putting their faces out there are useful idiots), but they still need to face consequences to the fullest extent for their stupid choices.

As far as I see it, Trump is 100% justified and I say that objectively.
 
What’s even going on in America at this point ffs
All I know is there were widespread fires in LA, supposedly DEWs in 2025 causing the wildfires targetting LA and also in 2020 [here] targetting California, and now what appears to be the beginnings of civil unrest in LA. Maybe the "angels" are getting it.
 
There's also the protestors waving the Mexican flag (a country they don't want to live in) and burning the American one. I don't understand these people.
 
There's also the protestors waving the Mexican flag (a country they don't want to live in) and burning the American one. I don't understand these people.
This is generally the case with a lot of "uneducated" people (to use a nice word) who manage to move from impoverished countries to first world countries. They don't like and don't care about the societal standards, culture and rules of the country they moved in and try to impose their own that they grew up with, which in most cases are standards of violence and corruption, while in the same time they did their best to escape them. It is counter intuitive but this is exactly how civilizations are destroyed, allowing people with lower morals, lower education and lower intelligence to take over a society whose authorities protect them in the same time instead of pushing them back.

Another factor is that many, while enjoying the much higher standards of living they hate the country they move in and blame it for the corruption and poverty in their own countries, and therefore when they try to impose their own way by force they feel a sense of accomplishment that they have taken "revenge" on behalf of their countries.
 
This is generally the case with a lot of "uneducated" people (to use a nice word) who manage to move from impoverished countries to first world countries. They don't like and don't care about the societal standards, culture and rules of the country they moved in and try to impose their own that they grew up with, which in most cases are standards of violence and corruption, while in the same time they did their best to escape them. It is counter intuitive but this is exactly how civilizations are destroyed, allowing people with lower morals, lower education and lower intelligence to take over a society whose authorities protect them in the same time instead of pushing them back.

Another factor is that many, while enjoying the much higher standards of living they hate the country they move in and blame it for the corruption and poverty in their own countries, and therefore when they try to impose their own way by force they feel a sense of accomplishment that they have taken "revenge" on behalf of their countries.
I'm so fucking annoyed at humans repeating the same cycles and mistakes. It feels determined at this point that humans will fuck up.

Why didn't the Gods engineer humans to each have 200 IQ or higher, as well as a higher moral/empathetic nature, since genes determine most of these things anyway? Why make 99% of humans retarded or susceptible to degeneration in the first place?

I feel like most of our problems wouldn't exist if humans were just designed better from the start. The human mind has so many holes and weaknesses to it it's a fucking miracle we aren't extinct yet from some monkey with nuclear launch codes going apeshit.
 
The riots are tied to socialist/marxist organizations, including a racist socialist group called union de barrio.

 
The riots are tied to socialist/marxist organizations, including a racist socialist group called union de barrio.

Everyone can,
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From 4:50 and on, self-admitted communist/socialist revolutionaries groups connection to the "protests."
 
It is important to not let the enemy control the narrative by manipulating you into describing things the way they want you to.

These are not protests. A protest is a peaceful and law abiding demonstration. It involves signs and chants and other peaceful expressions.

They are riots. They are looting, robbing, burning and destroying society, completely disregarding law and order and the impact of their actions on the lives and welfare of others, who aren't even involved in the "oppression" they are supposedly rebelling against.
 
Why didn't the Gods engineer humans to each have 200 IQ or higher, as well as a higher moral/empathetic nature, since genes determine most of these things anyway? Why make 99% of humans retarded or susceptible to degeneration in the first place?

I feel like most of our problems wouldn't exist if humans were just designed better from the start. The human mind has so many holes and weaknesses to it it's a fucking miracle we aren't extinct yet from some monkey with nuclear launch codes going apeshit.
Interesting question, because I think the Gods did that but humanity then decayed by its own mistakes. Historically the real and severe degeneration of humanity started with the spread of christianity because it stopped all evolution and when it had full power, it made people illiterate, slaves etc. And christianity only started to spread around 1700 years ago, which on the entire timescale of humanity is a lot more "recent" than most people imagine, there is evidence in many places in Middle East, Eastern Europe, some parts of Asia etc. that humanity is over 10.000 years old.

Nowadays people are a lot more weak and vulnerable in places like Europe or United States, and in the same time governments are more oppressive and restrictive, therefore people are a lot more fearful of being arrested if they tried to resist whatever the governments are doing. Sooner or later everything will become a lot more chaotic.
 
Either planned or not, and I don't doubt here, this is terrorism on our country. For those of us that live here. I agree with fellow member "Epiphany", these are not peaceful protests. This is madness. And to think government officials in their state don't even mind. Then again, did they care about the George Floyd riots. I think not! The brain washing is real.
 
This is generally the case with a lot of "uneducated" people (to use a nice word) who manage to move from impoverished countries to first world countries. They don't like and don't care about the societal standards, culture and rules of the country they moved in and try to impose their own that they grew up with, which in most cases are standards of violence and corruption, while in the same time they did their best to escape them. It is counter intuitive but this is exactly how civilizations are destroyed, allowing people with lower morals, lower education and lower intelligence to take over a society whose authorities protect them in the same time instead of pushing them back.

Another factor is that many, while enjoying the much higher standards of living they hate the country they move in and blame it for the corruption and poverty in their own countries, and therefore when they try to impose their own way by force they feel a sense of accomplishment that they have taken "revenge" on behalf of their countries.
It's the same her4e. Foreigners come here and say their country is the best. If it's the best, then why are you here? Fuck off back. They're here, fleeing their own home, instead of fixing it, and hating us and slagging us off.
 
I'm so fucking annoyed at humans repeating the same cycles and mistakes. It feels determined at this point that humans will fuck up.
"Give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt."

Why didn't the Gods engineer humans to each have 200 IQ or higher, as well as a higher moral/empathetic nature, since genes determine most of these things anyway? Why make 99% of humans retarded or susceptible to degeneration in the first place?

I feel like most of our problems wouldn't exist if humans were just designed better from the start. The human mind has so many holes and weaknesses to it it's a fucking miracle we aren't extinct yet from some monkey with nuclear launch codes going apeshit.
I suspect this World, this Planet is for the level that our Souls have managed to be in. For all I know, I lived on a better Planet but I did stupidk, retarded, shit, fucked-up things, so my 'level' of existence is on this Planet. Conversely, it has been said that Nicola Tesla is alive and living on another, free, Planet, so... Plus Satan says that if anyone suffers for His sake, He will surely reward them in one of the Worlds. That might mean in one's world as opposed to on another Planet, though. Perhaps the Gods and Goddesses knew what was going to happen, so having a high IQ would be dangerous - notice the libraries and books are burnt, and people who use their Brains are burnt at the stake because "god" loves them.

Speaking about monkeys - Humans are the highest-evolved, most-intelligent species on Earth. We can lie and we need entertainment and we can become bored and we also need to be distracted from the plight of the low vibrational frequency in which we live, with the help of bread and circuses. We're much better in IQ and things than other Animals, and we're very complex. Don't forget also that it was the Age of Pisces, the Kali Yugo, so we've been damned regardless, and the reptillians and the jew took the opportunity to make things so much worse. Despite that, Humans have prevailed and Trump won't press the big red monkey button, nor will "israel", an Humans figtht back and since the jew reckons it is "god", Humans are better and more-powerful than yahweh, jehova, "god". No matter what the jew does, we've got Animal rights, rights of the Child, Women's rights, ended slavery... to name a few. Even in and among the low vibration, we're still increasing vibration somewhat, no matter how much the jew shits all over the Planet.

In war, things get very messy. If war was clean, then we wouldn't notice change and revolution (dare I say) probably wouldn't happen. To make change, we need huge amounts of Energy in a thing. Consider a bullet - all of the Energies that were put into making it be a bullet, all of the manufacturing and resource-gathering and logistics and delivering to the gun shop and then it being bought, stored safely, loaded and then used and penetrating a person, the Energies of the buller much stronger than the Energies of the individual, overpowering them and causing change very significantly. Sometimes, might is right - more Energies are needed to overthrow the regime and re-democratise and then re-Nazify/re-Spiritualk Satanify/re-Zevistify things again.
 
It is important to not let the enemy control the narrative by manipulating you into describing things the way they want you to.

These are not protests. A protest is a peaceful and law abiding demonstration. It involves signs and chants and other peaceful expressions.

They are riots. They are looting, robbing, burning and destroying society, completely disregarding law and order and the impact of their actions on the lives and welfare of others, who aren't even involved in the "oppression" they are supposedly rebelling against.
Similarly with the Southport incident which turned into country-wide race riots, and again now with what's happening in the Ballymena riots in Ireland after 2 Romanians ("allegedly") attempted to rape a young Girl... No matter how much shit we might be going through, and how low IQ might be, we fight back - and then the "govern"ment's agents, AKA police, who are White, no less, come out and condemn it as "no place in our society" or in this case "racist thuggery". Speaking on their behalf - well, sorry for fucking defending my own!

This thread is entitled LA. It's happening elsewhere, as well.
 
Interesting question, because I think the Gods did that but humanity then decayed by its own mistakes. Historically the real and severe degeneration of humanity started with the spread of christianity because it stopped all evolution and when it had full power, it made people illiterate, slaves etc. And christianity only started to spread around 1700 years ago, which on the entire timescale of humanity is a lot more "recent" than most people imagine, there is evidence in many places in Middle East, Eastern Europe, some parts of Asia etc. that humanity is over 10.000 years old.

Nowadays people are a lot more weak and vulnerable in places like Europe or United States, and in the same time governments are more oppressive and restrictive, therefore people are a lot more fearful of being arrested if they tried to resist whatever the governments are doing. Sooner or later everything will become a lot more chaotic.
A post by me
26,000-Year-Old Child Footprints Found Alongside Paw Prints Reveal Oldest Evidence of Human-Canine Relationship

and the OP of that thread

32000 years old city in india:Dwarka

By my latest knowledge, Humanity goes back at least 100 thousand years. 2000 years is 2% of 100 000 years, and we've degenerated to much - but we stil have spirit and fervour. It's not the police that people hate; they don't know or reaslise that they hate the police's bosses, the politicians, the ommander in Chief, the establishment. This 2% of 100 000 just goes to show that we shouldn't mix weak with strong; the weak always wins. "Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and win from experience." Maybe an analogy as to why the Gods and Goddesses don't hag around here in the flesh very often, with the low vibrationary existence.
 
Sorry for all of the mistypes. My browser hasn't been highlighting mistypes like it used to.
 
When I say this, I say this with the most respect to all our members here and in no way am I trying to be rude. If I say anything that is wrong, please forgive me as we are all still learning.

Out of all that is going on, Trump is just a useful idiot who has really done more bad than good for the US. When you look at the way we are treating immigrants knowing that Immigrants have boosted overall economic growth by expanding the labor force and increasing consumer spending while also tending to start businesses at higher rates than U.S.-born individuals, makes you think they deserve a bit more respect. I do understand that there is also a high part of immigrants who are rapists and criminals, but is that not something that goes on in the whole world? Is Trump not a convicted felon who raped little girls and even said lewd comments to his very own daughter? Is he not the same as a rapist Mexican? Or is he somehow exempt from this group just because he is white and has done a few good things for the US? Trump does not have the thought of America in his mind, only white rich men.

I do agree that there must be something done about the criminals that have come here to ruin this country, but that does not include the immigrants who have built your houses, reconstructed your roads, who are loving parents and are thankful to the US for saving them from death in their home countries. Respect is earned, not given. Strengthening boarders and setting limitations is the best to do in this kind of situation instead of blindly deporting everyone who is not white or is an immigrant. I myself am an immigrant, if I was not white, would I get deported as well?

Many also worry about the risk of race mixing with immigrants, but that will happen either way if the jews are still in power in the government. It is not the Mexicans, or the blacks who are our enemy, it is the jews.

In all, our main focus should be is respecting the hardworking immigrants, deporting the criminals, strengthening the boarder and shutting of the access of government to jews


Once again, if there is anything I wrote that comes off as disrespectful please forgive me as this was not my intention. I am a very opinionated person and forgive me for anything that comes off as rude. Thank you and HAIL ZEUS!
 
How dare Trump defend his country against rapefugees?

That's all fine and good but many, many of our cops are piece of shit cowards that take the liberty to bully and oppress whenever they can get away with it.
It's a two things happening at once sort of situation; illegals shouldn't be tolerated, but our cops are also bastards.
 
That's all fine and good but many, many of our cops are piece of shit cowards that take the liberty to bully and oppress whenever they can get away with it.
It's a two things happening at once sort of situation; illegals shouldn't be tolerated, but our cops are also bastards.

I think the main point in, "How dare Trump defend his country against rapefugees?", was to address this all started with the law being implemented and those who disagree became violent immediately towards to those following lawful orders.

If this was a,
"It's a two things happening at once sort of situation,"
then why would those who are against cops keep running back and antagonizing them if they're so abusive? They can let the people who work as police, ICE, etc do their job and then that avoids the whole other "bully" and "oppressive" step. Win win.
 
When I say this, I say this with the most respect to all our members here and in no way am I trying to be rude. If I say anything that is wrong, please forgive me as we are all still learning.

Out of all that is going on, Trump is just a useful idiot who has really done more bad than good for the US. When you look at the way we are treating immigrants knowing that Immigrants have boosted overall economic growth by expanding the labor force and increasing consumer spending while also tending to start businesses at higher rates than U.S.-born individuals, makes you think they deserve a bit more respect. I do understand that there is also a high part of immigrants who are rapists and criminals, but is that not something that goes on in the whole world? Is Trump not a convicted felon who raped little girls and even said lewd comments to his very own daughter? Is he not the same as a rapist Mexican? Or is he somehow exempt from this group just because he is white and has done a few good things for the US? Trump does not have the thought of America in his mind, only white rich men.

I do agree that there must be something done about the criminals that have come here to ruin this country, but that does not include the immigrants who have built your houses, reconstructed your roads, who are loving parents and are thankful to the US for saving them from death in their home countries. Respect is earned, not given. Strengthening boarders and setting limitations is the best to do in this kind of situation instead of blindly deporting everyone who is not white or is an immigrant. I myself am an immigrant, if I was not white, would I get deported as well?

Many also worry about the risk of race mixing with immigrants, but that will happen either way if the jews are still in power in the government. It is not the Mexicans, or the blacks who are our enemy, it is the jews.

In all, our main focus should be is respecting the hardworking immigrants, deporting the criminals, strengthening the boarder and shutting of the access of government to jews


Once again, if there is anything I wrote that comes off as disrespectful please forgive me as this was not my intention. I am a very opinionated person and forgive me for anything that comes off as rude. Thank you and HAIL ZEUS!
I don't know about the business/economics side of things, but "MAGA" - not "MAGA by having non-Americans do stuff for us". I think it's about being proud, and as I say, relying on onself, standing on one's own two feet. They can't produce enough steel and they can't produce any coffee so there will always be trade and co-independence, but when idiots in government try and say that they protect everywhere else and nowhere else does shit, then they can sign their own cancelling of the trade deals and struggle to make their own way without external resources. Watch your arrogant attitude, America, or go and steal oil in the name of false freedom. Get your own language and ruin that. "Number one", my arse. The young country America is a spoilt brat and will either grow up to be a mature adult and grow out of the immaturity, or a teenaged tearaway and an adult criminal as it is already but more so. Is it "israel" who wants to annihilate the World or its bum boy America? Typical of the jew manipulating a poor little child like America.

Notice the contradictions above. It wants to do things its own way, but it is a spoilt brat child who needs to shut up and listen to its elders. Yes, I say this to antagonise Americans who are full of themselves.

[insert Man vs Food pictures, and any other examples of stupid American things, here]

That's merely a representation. An example of much larger nonsense. Prove you're number one, and stop being fucktarded.


I think the main point in, "How dare Trump defend his country against rapefugees?", was to address this all started with the law being implemented and those who disagree became violent immediately towards to those following lawful orders.

If this was a,

then why would those who are against cops keep running back and antagonizing them if they're so abusive? They can let the people who work as police, ICE, etc do their job and then that avoids the whole other "bully" and "oppressive" step. Win win.
Police are brainwashed to work through a process. This process is not real-life, it is not civilian; it is official. "It's a two-party system." "It's us versus them." It's dichotomy, to create divide, a schism. Civilians have real-life understanding; officials have brainwashed, autocratic training processes. In the Animal kingdom, come too closely to a foreigner's home and babies and see what happens; in the jewified, jewdazed sissydom, we have to rely on mummy jew and daddy police/authourities/army to defend us because we're weak, pathetic pieces of shit. Police/other authourities, and their training, creates disrepsect and divide. Police lost respect decades ago; people used to respect them and be OK with them, but just like with anything, the jew gets its dirty hooves on things and turns them all sour and bitter. To be these arrogant dick officials, one has to fit the profile - and most apparently do, hence all of the shit. "I was just doing my job" the elderly former official says when remembering how many lives s/he ruined in the name of the Commander in Chief. "I'm asking you to be a Human and help me, not be a robot working to your programming" cries the civilian who should have decided to be an arrogant prick and join one of the forces so s/he could abuse others.


I might sound like I have contradicted myself in both replies here, but it is not clear-cut. It is very grey. Very muddy. It's complicated and this is just what I can tell.
 
I don't know about the business/economics side of things, but "MAGA" - not "MAGA by having non-Americans do stuff for us". I think it's about being proud, and as I say, relying on onself, standing on one's own two feet. They can't produce enough steel and they can't produce any coffee so there will always be trade and co-independence, but when idiots in government try and say that they protect everywhere else and nowhere else does shit, then they can sign their own cancelling of the trade deals and struggle to make their own way without external resources. Watch your arrogant attitude, America, or go and steal oil in the name of false freedom. Get your own language and ruin that. "Number one", my arse. The young country America is a spoilt brat and will either grow up to be a mature adult and grow out of the immaturity, or a teenaged tearaway and an adult criminal as it is already but more so. Is it "israel" who wants to annihilate the World or its bum boy America? Typical of the jew manipulating a poor little child like America.

Notice the contradictions above. It wants to do things its own way, but it is a spoilt brat child who needs to shut up and listen to its elders. Yes, I say this to antagonise Americans who are full of themselves.

[insert Man vs Food pictures, and any other examples of stupid American things, here]

That's merely a representation. An example of much larger nonsense. Prove you're number one, and stop being fucktarded.
I fully agree that the US needs to be more dependent on it own self (including on immigrants), and I did overlook some points that you brought up so thank you for reminding me of that. But, the US would have to be very careful as to not do what happened last time they cut off ties with the world after WWI. Changing the spoiled American mind would also benefit everyone greatly; the main reason there are little to no white Americans doing "dirty" or "poor" work is because many children grow up in entitled house holds, and when they grow up they don't want to do anything that doesn't pay them 1000, 0000 or more. Even if the US does grow largely dependent on itself, there will always still be things in will need to receive from other countries or people.
 
If people's opinion is based on off if "Team America: World Police" is a documentary (with comedy flair) to them, then they are dangerously behind on the times.

Notice I didn't say completely wrong.

That's because they're right about what American politicians, both left and right (even independent parties as many are connected with each other) but it looks like jewish media did their job well if we have people here who still think this is happening and ping to even though since 10 years ago American politics has been radically changed. Imagine thinking Trump is the same old republican but then saying he's radical. No consistency with *any* anti-Trumpers.

(This isn't directed to those not paying attention or don't care but dont push their opinions as facts. They have a pass to what I write in this post, obviously. )

Every anti-Trumper who tries not be emotional acts if Trump is the neo-cons he himself has been pointing out and complaining about for 10 years, if not more.

All I see from anti-Trumpers are talking points against neo-cons, or in another common case, they're brainwashed to believe it was only old Republicans who fall into Fancy's words above.

The democrats have always factually been the oppressive ones, the ones telling you video games lead to violence. The ones who want to tax your junk food. The ones who want to censor speech outside of criticism towards israel. The ones who pretend to be against estaishment Republicans but then fist bump each other behind closed doors because they have the same people funding them or have similar goals that go against the American citizens' interests. The media, from news to entertainment, since before the internet has distracted and fooled many to believe this was all (establishment) Republicans.

FancyMancy, if you're not from America and you are getting your talking points from anti Republicans and people who are fed up from American intervention then take time to learn from the sources many have provided here like Tim pool, Sky news, etc, or even taking time to actually listen to trump's whole speeches instead of sound bites cherry picked by anti-Trumpers and then I promise you will have actual talking points that fit Trump and the Maga coalition and even towards the law enforcement.

I don't know about the business/economics side of things, but "MAGA" - not "MAGA by having non-Americans do stuff for us". I think it's about being proud, and as I say, relying on onself, standing on one's own two feet. They can't produce enough steel and they can't produce any coffee so there will always be trade and co-independence, but when idiots in government try and say that they protect everywhere else and nowhere else does shit, then they can sign their own cancelling of the trade deals and struggle to make their own way without external resources. Watch your arrogant attitude, America, or go and steal oil in the name of false freedom. Get your own language and ruin that. "Number one", my arse. The young country America is a spoilt brat and will either grow up to be a mature adult and grow out of the immaturity, or a teenaged tearaway and an adult criminal as it is already but more so. Is it "israel" who wants to annihilate the World or its bum boy America? Typical of the jew manipulating a poor little child like America.

Notice the contradictions above. It wants to do things its own way, but it is a spoilt brat child who needs to shut up and listen to its elders. Yes, I say this to antagonise Americans who are full of themselves.

[insert Man vs Food pictures, and any other examples of stupid American things, here]

That's merely a representation. An example of much larger nonsense. Prove you're number one, and stop being fucktarded.



Police are brainwashed to work through a process. This process is not real-life, it is not civilian; it is official. "It's a two-party system." "It's us versus them." It's dichotomy, to create divide, a schism. Civilians have real-life understanding; officials have brainwashed, autocratic training processes. In the Animal kingdom, come too closely to a foreigner's home and babies and see what happens; in the jewified, jewdazed sissydom, we have to rely on mummy jew and daddy police/authourities/army to defend us because we're weak, pathetic pieces of shit. Police/other authourities, and their training, creates disrepsect and divide. Police lost respect decades ago; people used to respect them and be OK with them, but just like with anything, the jew gets its dirty hooves on things and turns them all sour and bitter. To be these arrogant dick officials, one has to fit the profile - and most apparently do, hence all of the shit. "I was just doing my job" the elderly former official says when remembering how many lives s/he ruined in the name of the Commander in Chief. "I'm asking you to be a Human and help me, not be a robot working to your programming" cries the civilian who should have decided to be an arrogant prick and join one of the forces so s/he could abuse others.


I might sound like I have contradicted myself in both replies here, but it is not clear-cut. It is very grey. Very muddy. It's complicated and this is just what I can tell.

Humans are above animal behavior while still being part of nature, so in other words we refine these traits in high society. Invasive and violent animals can defend themselves all they want but those that know they dont belong here will get taken out in the most brutal way in the "animal kingdom" but in the real world ran by humans who are above animal behavior you don't get to be violent because you are a criminal with family, so instead of like this "animal kingdom" you mentioned, you get deported with tax payer money. Imagine the last part being the case and still being like, "oh, the horror!"

I highly doubt you see justice being implemented the degree humans have when compared to the wild.


Policing isn't about being nice to criminals. It's about protecting the innocent civilians and Justice is a harsh Father when it has to be for the greater good. Is this where you have a problem?

Or are you referring ( I doubt you were) to the fact that "just following orders" in itself can be bad just like the cops arresting people for not wearing a mask during covid? Like I said, you don't know what's happening in America and who's in charge of what police district or the types of people signing up to be police and the back and forth legal fighting to have the best on their forces as opposed to dei hires that also have poor training due to the leftist(a few establishment Republicans) calls of defunding the police.
Your argument doesn't have any of the above so I can only assume you're not even talking about this but "painting with a broad brush."

Many people are filled with "more emotion than information" in regards to these topics, including police work in America. I am ready with information to prove my points if you first provide actual evidence of what you say that is actually made of substance and not dishonest cherry-picked incidents you saw on the internet or articles that leave off the direct details of police work and the specific department that are important to consider. In regards to the last part, police are individual souls as well and even build a small community/culture within each department depending on their jurisdiction.



For the record, I remember you calling Trump a racial jew just because of his last name and then jumping ahead as if you proved he was a jew but just continued on with your anti-Trump points.

No one fell for that while I also directly called out the leap of logic of it being called conclusive evidence. So I see why you came at this in this manner. Sounds like you're dead set on proving Trump is an enemy of regular people and it's getting weird after all the objective points pushed back to you by now.


People really should start knowing their place when it comes to information to certain topics. Not that they can't participate in discussion, but seriously, what is it with coming with so much gusto in anti Trump talking points but always and I mean always get proven wrong or leave it at as "okay, maybe I'm wrong buuut..."

Americans have laws and hold justice to a high degree. The closest to this has been Germany and then before that the Greeks. I have noticed how shocked people outside of the USA or the naive here get when common sense laws are implemented. The world has gotten too soft without the structure of Zeus and His Patheon.



Lastly, if you have actual talking points instead of cartoon characters you painted the Police forces to be (or the Maga coalition) then I'll reply to those points, as mentioned. I'm tired of arguing with dishonest political points that have nothing to do with reality or ignores imporant nuances just like you did in that last reply. Go ahead and think every cop in America or the system of Police is evil itself or unnatural. You don't live in America so these opinions of yours are irrelevant as much as they are dishonest. I'll make sure to interrupt any lies you spew against America towards members who might not know better for a variety reasons that are actually normal to have but are at least honest instead of pushing their low information opinion. I'm only harsh here because you've been here for so long and yet...
 
In America, many libertarians also believe the police shouldn't exist. But they come from full isolationist point of view that doesn't work in high society.

Well guess what, vile and violent criminal acts shouldn't either, so a needed structured way to deal with this in modern societies that have no resemblance of the Ancient Ethical societies is necessary and a natural extension of natural Justice.
 

Regarding me comparing things with the Animal kingdom, I was referring to being able to defend oneself instead of having to rely on others to defend you. There are many groups, subcultural groups, different types of people, and when the establishment, the system, ignores what the People say, then it is not a democracy but is a dictatorship and the People don't want to be slaves so they fight back and defend their own because "their own" authourities don't protect them from others in whichever out-groups. Not only that, but the People are forced to pay taxes to give these out-group protectors wages, and then who defends the in-group? No-one, or the in-group who then gets in trouble by the authourities/out-group protectors?

In my saying Trump was a jew, I had what information I had at the time. I never proved Trump was a jew, however. I am also neither for Trump nor against. I have distate against the system automatically, regardless of whichever colour the chair, the seat of power happens to be for this period, including Reform Party in the UK - it seems like it might be OK, but as I have said before, the jew will redirect things back to its own way; it would not be actually, fully, properly, 100% what it claims to be. It's all a part of the agenda or "controlled opposition" if not immediately then sooner or later. One thing I like that Trump did was say that there is only Male and Female. One thing I dislike what Trump did was rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of Arrogantia. Trump is playing for points and to the camera, as all politicians do. He knows after he is assassinated or his time runs out that the name Gulf of Mexico can return.

Regardless - apparently, civilised society is not working or doesn't exist. People come together in groups, and those groups form things, ideas, ideals, ways, interests, etc. There's always opposition, and especially so when the People want to defend their own but have to do it on the authourity's terms, the system's terms - because they clearly are better than the People; clearly they know best!

As I said, I don't know about the business and economics side of things, but being different, such as what Trump is doing, might actually work. As you say, "Many people are filled with more emotion than information"; I say people should think with their Brains instead of with their Emotions. People jump on what they see and shout out loudly based on their own brainwashing that Trump is bad and has destroyed the economy. They could wait and see what happens. They can oppose and protest, but Trump will still be in the whatever-coloured seat while those protestors and opposers cry. The best I can do regarding that is to compare with ecomonic or trading/market takes in computer games and hope they are somewhat realistic, and knowing that it can be difficult with resources and that you have to do different things to make it all profitable eventually - and try and compare it with real-life and see if Trump's actions will work. To me, it doesn't make sense to charge USA workers/companies extra money for the same amount of resources, but I realise that it also affects the sellers overseas who rely on the USA buying their goods. Like we have to rely on the authourities, a separate group, to defend our group, countries have to rely on other countries for income. Trump seems to be against that for the USA, and I suppose secretly wants himself or his ideas to be the model for other countries to follow and copy.

Perhaps there is a 10% buffer that is acceptable, that the People can survive, albeit uncomfortably, with these tariffs, and Trump has gone only to 5% or 8% - the People can still survive due to the economic system in the USA but other countries who rely on the USA buying the goods are struggling so they must relent and then renegotiate. Yes, of course I'm speculating. Like war, it is very messy and distructive and uncomfortable, but then one side wins, usually, and things can improve after. Trump has gone to war against the World to make the USA better and if I am not mistaken, self-sufficient, to de-globalise, which I also say - decentralise. I'm not anti-Trump. I'm also not pro-Trump.

If you'd like me to respond in a stereotypically-American way - I don't vote; I can't be bothered, but I will kick your arse if you disrespect my sports team! If you want me to respond as myself - I don't vote; no one party has all the answers and they are tailored deliberately to make us be bounced back-and-forth like a pinball in a pinball machine, or thrown around like a ragdoll, to slide people sideways while the wheel is still turning, so the People think they are getting what they want with this party in this way but losing out on something else until that party comes and pretends to be on the Peoples' side; sliding sideways, until the wheel turns far enough and they fall into a slot trap that the jew has set. Don't worry if you don't understand. It's an analogy.

I never said every copper is evil. I have posted before American police officers being decent people with civilians. It might have been on the old forum because it was quite a while ago. It was a Black Woman police officer, somewhat rotund if my memory is correct, I think dancing with some civilians. I don't post more of these because I don't see them or I see them on TV but can't get them to share them. I might - might - tar with a wide brush, but it does have slits in it where decent people get through.

I've been here for so long, yet... I don't "spew lies". I said this is what I see. I didn't say I am 100% absolutely correct. Do I need tio put in huge, bright letters
THIS IS JUST WHAT I THINK. SHUT THE FUCK UP CRYING THAT I MIGHT BE WRONG.
?

I searched for that Black Woman police officer but I couldn't find it, so I'll share a similar one -


This is not the one, but it'll do. This was uploaded by WDEF News 12, which - believe it or don't - is an American channel/station, in Tennessee, in America! Featuring an American police officer! :O Being nice!! :eek:! No, of course I don't know all of his life. I don't know if he thinks bad thoughts. All I can go on is a snippet, what I see.

It's complicated and this is just what I can tell.
I also said
I might sound like I have contradicted myself in both replies here, but it is not clear-cut. It is very grey. Very muddy.
Thanks.

P.S. I might not share things clearly for others to read. Maybe too much analogy and metaphor. Maybe that's my own "problem", not yours.
 
I fully agree that the US needs to be more dependent on it own self (including on immigrants), and I did overlook some points that you brought up so thank you for reminding me of that. But, the US would have to be very careful as to not do what happened last time they cut off ties with the world after WWI. Changing the spoiled American mind would also benefit everyone greatly; the main reason there are little to no white Americans doing "dirty" or "poor" work is because many children grow up in entitled house holds, and when they grow up they don't want to do anything that doesn't pay them 1000, 0000 or more. Even if the US does grow largely dependent on itself, there will always still be things in will need to receive from other countries or people.
Yeah. International trade is innevitable, and sceptical-- no, cynical old FancyMancy says this is one of the means, psychologically, that the globalist jew uses to indoctrinate multiculti and Race-mixing/miscegenation into people. frans timmermans said there won't be anywhere on the Planet without multiculturalism. I wonder if "israel" is a part of the Planet as it thinks it is apart from the Planet. Then we must ask ourselves - where is the line drawn? I don't have it very often, but I do love Chinese - but then chicken (what I get mostly) is not Chinese; it is in many countries; [each individual ingredient here] - Chinese or international? Then if any are international, then that is an argument for internationalism/globalism. Going back to pure British food, I'd prefer not to eat heart and liver and things every day(!) (then again, I was not born, in this life, in Viking times... they were hardy); and tomatoes were not British nor European (Italian; I also have pizza and occasionally other tomato-based Italian foods - is this multiculti or is it White/European-acceptable?) originally; they came from South America, but have been in the country and continent for centuries, so...? Just like "israel" doesn't exist, it might be accepted as existing de facto; are tomatoes European de facto now? Now since tomatoes, from South America, have spread worldwide, so has illegal drugs which are also made there. The jew can exploit such things, "one thing has been accepted to be spread from there to everywhere, so another, dangerous, deadly thing can be." Then play Race riots, as well. It is many different tokens all coming together in many different ways, and the Goyim are not to see the jew's hand.

With the USA being self-sufficient, that would be good for the USA in the long or very long-run, but I doubt it could be done in 4 years. It certainly couldn't be self-sufficient 100% in 4 years, and I seriously doubt other presidents will continue it unless it's part of a larger long-play by the jew. The jew can't be self-sufficient, as we know. It wouldn't allow the USA to be damned because it needs slaves to own; but on the other hand, those rabbis who were saying the USA will fall, like Rome and Greece and Egypt did, might just be using Trump, despite attempting to assassinate him yet again. It's so grey, so muddy, so dirty - in more ways than one.

I don't know everything. I don't know anything. Ignore me.
 
Regarding me comparing things with the Animal kingdom, I was referring to being able to defend oneself instead of having to rely on others to defend you. There are many groups, subcultural groups, different types of people, and when the establishment, the system, ignores what the People say, then it is not a democracy but is a dictatorship and the People don't want to be slaves so they fight back and defend their own because "their own" authourities don't protect them from others in whichever out-groups. Not only that, but the People are forced to pay taxes to give these out-group protectors wages, and then who defends the in-group? No-one, or the in-group who then gets in trouble by the authourities/out-group protectors?

In my saying Trump was a jew, I had what information I had at the time. I never proved Trump was a jew, however. I am also neither for Trump nor against. I have distate against the system automatically, regardless of whichever colour the chair, the seat of power happens to be for this period, including Reform Party in the UK - it seems like it might be OK, but as I have said before, the jew will redirect things back to its own way; it would not be actually, fully, properly, 100% what it claims to be. It's all a part of the agenda or "controlled opposition" if not immediately then sooner or later. One thing I like that Trump did was say that there is only Male and Female. One thing I dislike what Trump did was rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of Arrogantia. Trump is playing for points and to the camera, as all politicians do. He knows after he is assassinated or his time runs out that the name Gulf of Mexico can return.

Regardless - apparently, civilised society is not working or doesn't exist. People come together in groups, and those groups form things, ideas, ideals, ways, interests, etc. There's always opposition, and especially so when the People want to defend their own but have to do it on the authourity's terms, the system's terms - because they clearly are better than the People; clearly they know best!

As I said, I don't know about the business and economics side of things, but being different, such as what Trump is doing, might actually work. As you say, "Many people are filled with more emotion than information"; I say people should think with their Brains instead of with their Emotions. People jump on what they see and shout out loudly based on their own brainwashing that Trump is bad and has destroyed the economy. They could wait and see what happens. They can oppose and protest, but Trump will still be in the whatever-coloured seat while those protestors and opposers cry. The best I can do regarding that is to compare with ecomonic or trading/market takes in computer games and hope they are somewhat realistic, and knowing that it can be difficult with resources and that you have to do different things to make it all profitable eventually - and try and compare it with real-life and see if Trump's actions will work. To me, it doesn't make sense to charge USA workers/companies extra money for the same amount of resources, but I realise that it also affects the sellers overseas who rely on the USA buying their goods. Like we have to rely on the authourities, a separate group, to defend our group, countries have to rely on other countries for income. Trump seems to be against that for the USA, and I suppose secretly wants himself or his ideas to be the model for other countries to follow and copy.

Perhaps there is a 10% buffer that is acceptable, that the People can survive, albeit uncomfortably, with these tariffs, and Trump has gone only to 5% or 8% - the People can still survive due to the economic system in the USA but other countries who rely on the USA buying the goods are struggling so they must relent and then renegotiate. Yes, of course I'm speculating. Like war, it is very messy and distructive and uncomfortable, but then one side wins, usually, and things can improve after. Trump has gone to war against the World to make the USA better and if I am not mistaken, self-sufficient, to de-globalise, which I also say - decentralise. I'm not anti-Trump. I'm also not pro-Trump.

If you'd like me to respond in a stereotypically-American way - I don't vote; I can't be bothered, but I will kick your arse if you disrespect my sports team! If you want me to respond as myself - I don't vote; no one party has all the answers and they are tailored deliberately to make us be bounced back-and-forth like a pinball in a pinball machine, or thrown around like a ragdoll, to slide people sideways while the wheel is still turning, so the People think they are getting what they want with this party in this way but losing out on something else until that party comes and pretends to be on the Peoples' side; sliding sideways, until the wheel turns far enough and they fall into a slot trap that the jew has set. Don't worry if you don't understand. It's an analogy.

I never said every copper is evil. I have posted before American police officers being decent people with civilians. It might have been on the old forum because it was quite a while ago. It was a Black Woman police officer, somewhat rotund if my memory is correct, I think dancing with some civilians. I don't post more of these because I don't see them or I see them on TV but can't get them to share them. I might - might - tar with a wide brush, but it does have slits in it where decent people get through.

I've been here for so long, yet... I don't "spew lies". I said this is what I see. I didn't say I am 100% absolutely correct. Do I need tio put in huge, bright letters
THIS IS JUST WHAT I THINK. SHUT THE FUCK UP CRYING THAT I MIGHT BE WRONG.
?

I searched for that Black Woman police officer but I couldn't find it, so I'll share a similar one -


This is not the one, but it'll do. This was uploaded by WDEF News 12, which - believe it or don't - is an American channel/station, in Tennessee, in America! Featuring an American police officer! :O Being nice!! :eek:! No, of course I don't know all of his life. I don't know if he thinks bad thoughts. All I can go on is a snippet, what I see.


I also said

Thanks.

P.S. I might not share things clearly for others to read. Maybe too much analogy and metaphor. Maybe that's my own "problem", not yours.
Thank you for the context behind your comment I understand it better now.

It was just bad timing in trying to understand your meaning since this conversation started off with what is being claimed as a "it's a two sided situation" when that phrase DOES NOT fit in this specific situation in America nor is it relevant at this time when all that happened before the violence started was the law being enforced.

I was only replying to the implications AND the false claim that this has to do with cops acting out. Not about the problem behind American intervention and the viewpoints of it.

Lastly, if I may opine. In modern times I rather have law enforcement enforce the law than from the andrapoda to the more conscious non-Zevists communities taking Justice in their hands when they themselves have a primal view on the subject of Justice and the proper way for it to be implemented. At least with cops, they seem to be getting better at using pure logic in their work while at the same time having a no nonsense demeanor. The situation in America isn't to the point where sane people feel the need to start going at the police system in a big legal manner, that's just socialist who will only give emotional drivel and dishonest points as to why. Technology has made police immunity less as well. It's not perfect but there's signs of betterment for sure.


I don't have much information on the trading things as well and it really is one of those things civilians just have to hope the leader is right about it in the end. I myself trust the goal more than the plans. I give him a fair judgment instead of going on crusades on why he's wrong and fear mongering.

As for the people outside of American states being affected by Trump's trade deals, all I have to say is, sorry but it was never America's business to get involved and now it's messy where just leaving it all to the people themselves to figure it is the best choice in the long-run. This is where the citizens in their respected nations stand up to their leaders for even letting their nations be controlled as so. I tell the same things to Mexicans who dislike American politicians because they legally took resources and some of the work-force but these same people don't give the same energy towards their own spineless politicians. Sounds like it's common to think this is the game plan.
 
When I say this, I say this with the most respect to all our members here and in no way am I trying to be rude. If I say anything that is wrong, please forgive me as we are all still learning.

Once again, if there is anything I wrote that comes off as disrespectful please forgive me as this was not my intention. I am a very opinionated person and forgive me for anything that comes off as rude. Thank you and HAIL ZEUS!

Fuck all that. Say what you mean and say it how you think it. Don't waste everyone's time and energy apologizing off the bat.

Don't be a bleeding heart and don't identify yourself with a group that is largely unlike you. You are white, you migrated lawfully and you are fleeing from actual war, and you come from a culture and value system that is compatible with the west. That cannot be said for most of the rest who flood the west.
 
I fully agree that the US needs to be more dependent on it own self (including on immigrants), and I did overlook some points that you brought up so thank you for reminding me of that. But, the US would have to be very careful as to not do what happened last time they cut off ties with the world after WWI. Changing the spoiled American mind would also benefit everyone greatly; the main reason there are little to no white Americans doing "dirty" or "poor" work is because many children grow up in entitled house holds, and when they grow up they don't want to do anything that doesn't pay them 1000, 0000 or more. Even if the US does grow largely dependent on itself, there will always still be things in will need to receive from other countries or people.
I believe the people who get affected the most by removing the cheap labor is the rich business owners. These are the ones taking the hardest hit by having to put up their wages and better work enviroment for citizens to work for them.

The prices of goods might go up during the transition phase but over time with higher paying jobs that require manual labor the regular person will have a increase of buying power and it seems logical for it be balanced out over time.
 
When I say this, I say this with the most respect to all our members here and in no way am I trying to be rude. If I say anything that is wrong, please forgive me as we are all still learning.

Out of all that is going on, Trump is just a useful idiot who has really done more bad than good for the US. When you look at the way we are treating immigrants knowing that Immigrants have boosted overall economic growth by expanding the labor force and increasing consumer spending while also tending to start businesses at higher rates than U.S.-born individuals, makes you think they deserve a bit more respect. I do understand that there is also a high part of immigrants who are rapists and criminals, but is that not something that goes on in the whole world? Is Trump not a convicted felon who raped little girls and even said lewd comments to his very own daughter? Is he not the same as a rapist Mexican? Or is he somehow exempt from this group just because he is white and has done a few good things for the US? Trump does not have the thought of America in his mind, only white rich men.

I do agree that there must be something done about the criminals that have come here to ruin this country, but that does not include the immigrants who have built your houses, reconstructed your roads, who are loving parents and are thankful to the US for saving them from death in their home countries. Respect is earned, not given. Strengthening boarders and setting limitations is the best to do in this kind of situation instead of blindly deporting everyone who is not white or is an immigrant. I myself am an immigrant, if I was not white, would I get deported as well?

Many also worry about the risk of race mixing with immigrants, but that will happen either way if the jews are still in power in the government. It is not the Mexicans, or the blacks who are our enemy, it is the jews.

In all, our main focus should be is respecting the hardworking immigrants, deporting the criminals, strengthening the boarder and shutting of the access of government to jews


Once again, if there is anything I wrote that comes off as disrespectful please forgive me as this was not my intention. I am a very opinionated person and forgive me for anything that comes off as rude. Thank you and HAIL ZEUS!
This is a false view not based on reality.
Show us the information that proves that *illegal immigration* benefits the economy in the long run. It doesn't.

Your premise that Trump hates immigrants is a lie and thus talking point shouldn't be taken as true. He has differentiated the two endless and endless times...

We here understand the difference between illegal aliens who mostly are a burden with a few exceptions compared to the whole and actual LEGAL immigrants who help society they're in while they help themselves. By helping themselves I don't mean working in the farm fields and construction sites for pennies on the hour for up to 10-14 hours of straight work.


...............

And another lie you wrote is that Trump got convicted for raping little girls. This is a straight out lie and I don't see why you would even say this if you don't even have documented legal proof of this.



We can discuss honest things about Trump's policies but when suspiciously starting at a point that has to do with legit emotional drivel and lies propagated by the legacy media then don't be surprised when you aren't taken as a serious person in this discussion.

Or

If you are another victim of jewish media then talking it out works, and I'll continue respectfully to the best of my abilities.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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