Re-examining the core principles of JoS

[Agartha]

Hello. I have some questions against the basic claims of JoS. These questions will start from creation and go up to the present day. For example, if I am now asking about creation, my next question will be about the formation of civilizations and beliefs. I have been Zevism for several years and some of these questions have been bothering me for several years. Because whoever I ask says that there is no complete and clear answer. Without further ado, let me move on to my questions. Spiritual Satanism has a claim of creation. Like in Sumerian mythology. Gods come and use human DNA to create modern man in a laboratory. Zevism says that by the time the gods came to earth, humanity was already extinct and they used the DNA of people who had died. If this is different, you can explain it in more detail. I know it is like this.
Now my questions come.
How long ago did the gods come? 30,000, 50,000, 200,000, or much earlier? I ask this for a reason. If humanity disappeared completely for a period of time, why and when did it happen? Is there any archaeological evidence for that?
Where were we created in the laboratory and in what stages and for how long?

We humans as 3 races are supposed to get 3 different DNAs. If whites are homosapiens and yellows are homoerectus, which primate are blacks? Evolutionists say that the most diversity is in Africa. It is said that the first humans were black and became white as they migrated northward. How do you explain this logically?
Do you think there was a stone age? If there was a stone age, even when these stone age people were hunter-gatherers, they developed some kind of beliefs according to the nature they were in. For example, they buried their dead and left objects on their graves. I'm talking about people who were walking around with spears hundreds of thousands of years ago. When they moved towards agriculture, they started to believe in "mother earth" and women were blessed. But after a while, when they switched to advanced irrigated agriculture, men took women's jobs and when women were no longer needed, the mother goddess was replaced by a patriarchal god, the sun god. Because now they could rule the land and the water, but not the sun. And this led to a fundamental change in their beliefs. From an outsider's point of view, the formation and development of beliefs seems to have happened in a very simple and ordinary way.
That's all my questions for now. I hope someone will be able to give a good and logical answer. I want a chronological answer.

I don't expect you to answer them in detail, but it would be great if you could explain them with a little bit of logical deduction and evidence. Thank you in advance.

 

[STanBlank]

I remember that the Indian Hopi mythology once mentioned that humans were divided into four races: red, yellow, black and white, and were scattered around the world.There are four races, not the three races mentioned in the forum now. I think Latin Americans and Indians may be the so-called red people. I think this theory is correct. Because the four races correspond to the four elements, four directions, four seasons, and four substances (the basic amino acids that make up DNA). This is Satan's way.I think there was a so-called primitive age, of course, after the Earth was attacked and the gods left, and the remaining humans began to reproduce again.The African continental migration theory is just bullshit new age materialistic science, they cannot explain the contents of relics buried deep underground, in China where I live they have even discovered relics of activities before 3600 BC, they may even be rewriting ancient history.

 

[Agartha]

I remember that the Indian Hopi mythology once mentioned that humans were divided into four races: red, yellow, black and white, and were scattered around the world.There are four races, not the three races mentioned in the forum now. I think Latin Americans and Indians may be the so-called red people. I think this theory is correct. Because the four races correspond to the four elements, four directions, four seasons, and four substances (the basic amino acids that make up DNA). This is Satan's way.I think there was a so-called primitive age, of course, after the Earth was attacked and the gods left, and the remaining humans began to reproduce again.The African continental migration theory is just bullshit new age materialistic science, they cannot explain the contents of relics buried deep underground, in China where I live they have even discovered relics of activities before 3600 BC, they may even be rewriting ancient history.

As you say, there may be 4 races. But I didn't ask how many races there are. If you say that humanity returned to the stone age after the world was attacked, then the situation becomes even more complicated. Did the gods abandon the world for centuries? Then how many centuries ago did they start our evolution? Actually, it would be great if these questions could be answered clearly. And 5,000 years ago is not that old. It is normal to find remains. Gobekli tepe is older. Can you explain the content of the remains buried deep underground, what are you talking about?

Which theory do you advocate instead of the African continental migration theory?

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

We do need more clarity regarding this.

Although all races according to the mainstream science anyway are homo sapien sapien and not seperate species as you claim.

“Caucasians”(Whites,Arabs,Indians,Latinos) have like 2% neanderthal DNA, Asians have some neaderthal and denisovan DNA. Blacks don’t have neaderthal or denisovan but have 20% unknown human DNA, supposedly homo erectus or a human species related to that line, with the rest for all 3 “races” being homo sapien sapien, basically the other human species were assimilated through inter-species breeding. This is according to “the science” which does have bias in it to promote a certain narrative and so will discard, ignore or explain alternatively any evidence that contradicts a purely natural origin to man.

As for how the Gods play into all this, I’ll leave it to people more knowledgeable than me on this, since the JOS mentions genetic engineering but what that exactly means I’m not sure.

 

[Henu the Great]

As for how the Gods play into all this, I’ll leave it to people more knowledgeable than me on this, since the JOS mentions genetic engineering but what that exactly means I’m not sure.

Genetic engineering is the manipulation of DNA. Since we are talking about Gods and not mere mortals with limited knowledge, the depth of their procedures is not fully known to us, but in principle, it is similar to editing computer code.

If there was a stone age, even when these stone age people were hunter-gatherers, they developed some kind of beliefs according to the nature they were in. For example, they buried their dead and left objects on their graves. I'm talking about people who were walking around with spears hundreds of thousands of years ago. When they moved towards agriculture, they started to believe in "mother earth" and women were blessed. But after a while, when they switched to advanced irrigated agriculture, men took women's jobs and when women were no longer needed, the mother goddess was replaced by a patriarchal god, the sun god. Because now they could rule the land and the water, but not the sun. And this led to a fundamental change in their beliefs. From an outsider's point of view, the formation and development of beliefs seems to have happened in a very simple and ordinary way.

Agriculture, architecture, calendar, and so forth were all taught to us by Gods and Demons when they worked in close physical proximity to us tens of thousands of years ago and earlier.

 

[Agartha]

Agriculture, architecture, calendar, and so forth were all taught to us by Gods and Demons when they worked in close physical proximity to us tens of thousands of years ago and earlier.

In those ancient times, agriculture was not very developed and the calendars were not accurate. Compared to today's calendars, they are off by a few days. How can the gods teach us something imperfect when they are right beside us?

Slavery also existed in the earliest ancient civilizations. I'm talking about civilizations like Sumer, Egypt, etc. Weren't the gods there with us, why didn't they stop it?

Some kings of the Sumerian civilization are shown as having lived and ruled for thousands of years. So what is the proof? Did he really live that many years?

In Egypt there were god-kings. If we think that those kings were really Gods, how did the grays (akhenaton) later infiltrate that dynasty?

Did the God-Kings of Egypt really marry their brothers and sisters so that their holy lineage would not be corrupted? There are other societies that practiced incestuous marriages in order to keep this sacred bloodline intact. How can this be?

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Egyptian History is a complete mess, as all the knowledge from those times is left in ruins, very few written accounts remain and most of what is known actually comes from the writing of historians of the time from other nations. More than half of what you see is utter nonsense. When you examine the time of akhenaten, you can see the infiltration, or more accurately, the fall of the dynasty was a very long and slow process, that likely lasted hundreds of years, a slow degradation from the original values and spiritual hierarchy, which culminated in the rule of akhenaten by the end of it (tutamkhamon was the last remnant of this failure), after which there was a resurgence when more capable Souls once again reincarnated and rectified most of the errors of the prior times, especially Rameses II who gave Egypt another 800 years with his reign through helping the nation return to its spiritual roots first and foremost.

Surely the degradation of the spiritual hierarchy in Egypt began after the XII dynasty when Egypt was invaded by the Hyksos.

 

[Agartha]

Surely the degradation of the spiritual hierarchy in Egypt began after the XII dynasty when Egypt was invaded by the Hyksos.

How did the gods allow this invasion? Also, weren't both civilizations pagan, why didn't they live in peace?

 

[tiajra13]

Also, there are many different videos on Enki that can be found on YouTube. One version that has some differences from the book is in 4 parts. They can be found with "SEARCH" words: Anunnaki 1, Anunnaki 2, Anunnaki 3, and Anunnaki 4.

Hail Satanas!!!!

 

[ManWithName]

Enki - the comet thrower?

 

[Wotanwarrior]

How did the gods allow this invasion? Also, weren't both civilizations pagan, why didn't they live in peace?

That they were both pagans does not mean that they were the same. The Hyksos barely had a culture, they were nomadic and were much less spiritually developed than the Egyptians.

 

[Novice Priest Karnonnos]

Egypt never practiced slavery and was the only civilization on Earth not to do so. Egyptians considered other civilizations to be barbaric not only 'because' of slavery but because people within them permitted themselves to be slaves. This is similar to the kind of attitude Americans often have towards foreigners for being 'subjects'.

For this, they were portrayed as the ultimate slavers and torturers by the slave race par excellence in the story of Joseph and Moses. In Joseph's story, the Egyptians all end up as slaves.

Britain 'abolished' slavery globally by forcing slavers to recant and stop. No one gives a single fuck about that these days, in fact they find a way to blame the British for doing this while begging to import 10 million people from a place where slavery is a day-to-day reality. Nietzsche predicted this would happen.

A true state of general humanity necessary for any 'abolition' is achieved by the indebted (slaves) not desiring being in the safety of the palm of the creditor (slaver) anymore and actually having independent lives instead of being lazy or passive, not just throwing venom on the slaver for being cruel. Andrapoda will just do whatever and will reinstate it willingly.

By the way, there are many types of slavery in this world and 'the next' that have never been abolished, some of which last lifetimes or are endless on the Astral. Some we know of are even novel forms of slavery. A 800lb blob in a bed eating themselves to death would be unthinkable 100 years ago.

 

[Decius]

This, I think, is a balanced description of slavery in ancient Athens:

The adult male population in the city-state of Athens was calculated as follows:
fifty thousand citizens, twenty-five thousand resident aliens, one hundred thousand slaves (...)
Slaves enjoyed no rights, and were the property of the state or individuals.
(...)
They were either born slaves or had been taken prisoners, in war or by pirates, and sold, almost all of them were barbarians, that is, non-Greeks: making slaves of Greeks was considered immoral and happened very rarely.
(...)
It should not be assumed that slaves were all treated inhumanely. A writer of the V, of retrogressive tendencies, said:
“Now, as for slaves and metics, in Athens they lead an entirely undisciplined life, and it is not permitted to strike them, nor will a slave give way to you. I will tell you the reason for this local custom: if the law allowed you to strike a slave, a metic or a freedman (=a freed slave), many times he would strike an Athenian believing him to be a slave; for as to dress people are not distinguished at all in Athens from slaves and metics, nor even in appearance” (Pseudo-Xenophon, The Constitution of the Athenians, I. 10).
Slaves and citizens often worked together and received the same pay, as we learn from inscriptions referring to the construction of public buildings. It could also happen that slaves set aside enough money to buy freedom from their masters, although this was not as common in Athens as in Rome.

(Luigi Miraglia, Athenaze pp 33-34;translated from Italian by deepl).

Slaves could be initiated into the Eleusinian mysteries:
The only requirements for membership were freedom from "blood guilt",[46] meaning never having committed murder, and not being a "barbarian" (being unable to speak Greek). Men, women, and even slaves were allowed initiation.[47]

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusinian_Mysteries)


However, I also wanted to tell you that I have the impression that what you are discussing are not core principles to be looked at dogmatically.

 

[Decius]

if the law allowed you to strike a slave, a metic or a freedman (=a freed slave), many times he would strike an Athenian believing him to be a slave; for as to dress people are not distinguished at all in Athens from slaves and metics, nor even in appearance” (Pseudo-Xenophon, The Constitution of the Athenians, I. 10).

* if the law allowed a men to strike a slave, a metic or a freedman (=a freed slave), many times he would strike an Athenian believing him to be a slave; for as to dress people are not distinguished at all in Athens from slaves and metics, nor even in appearance”.

 

[Homer]

Evolutionists say that the most diversity is in Africa. It is said that the first humans were black and became white as they migrated northward. How do you explain this logically?

That's a politically correct theory that exists only in the West and has been debunked. The majority of the Chinese biologists don't believe in the "out of Africa" theory, by the way. They believe that the races all involved independently, which makes the most sense.

In those ancient times, agriculture was not very developed and the calendars were not accurate. Compared to today's calendars, they are off by a few days. How can the gods teach us something imperfect when they are right beside us?

As the JoS site says, the Gods left 10k years ago. The Sumerians flourished around 5k-3k years ago. So this was after the Gods left. Also the linear view of history is wrong. Humanity didn't start from nothing and continuously got better until now, but there were ancient civilizations that fell (like Atlantis and Lemuria) and after their fall people went to a lower state and they had to reinvent things. We're now rediscovering what was lost technology, not inventing new things. History is cyclical.

Slavery also existed in the earliest ancient civilizations. I'm talking about civilizations like Sumer, Egypt, etc. Weren't the gods there with us, why didn't they stop it?

Again, these ancient civilizations you're talking about were 5k years old ago. They flourished after the Gods left. They were also not the earliest, only the earliest accepted by modern historians. There were civilizations much older than that.

There is evidence that there was a global advanced civilization that got wiped out about 10k years ago, exactly when the Gods left. Read the books Fingerprints of the Gods and Magicians of the Gods by Graham Hancock, as they explain this concept in more detail.