Question #3104: Desire to masturbate to the Gods

[AskSatanOperator]

Hey I want to know if it's permissible to masturbate to the deities? I got this idea from wanting to masturbate to hindu deities so I brought it here. I hope this won't be interpreted in a perverted way, my angle is from the perspective of offering the highest form of pleasure to be offered in remembrance.
I am a guy so I want to know if I can masturbate to Astarte or the other feminine Gods, and not in a perverted way portrayed in porn or other unnatural things they have online. I was usually masturbating using sexual magic for means of advancement. It's really hard to reach climax but building the desire initself is intense channeling but not the climax, and that's because my desires are abstract, where as I was assuming if I masturbate to the deities my devotion would supersede other things I hold as barriers.

And for someone knowledgeable in hindu system also clarify.

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

That's sick, please forget that idea.
If you want to masturbate to some "god", direct sexual energy to your chakras.

 

[AFODO]

Yes you can offer the energy that comes from climax. Although, you must not masturbate to a God/dess, you are only offering energy. What I mean is that you should not imagine a God/dess while masturbating in any way, just after it, send them the energy that came from it.

Imagining them in a sexual way can be disrespectful.

 

[phi3.14infinity]

Hey I want to know if it's permissible to masturbate to the deities? I got this idea from wanting to masturbate to hindu deities so I brought it here. I hope this won't be interpreted in a perverted way, my angle is from the perspective of offering the highest form of pleasure to be offered in remembrance.
I am a guy so I want to know if I can masturbate to Astarte or the other feminine Gods, and not in a perverted way portrayed in porn or other unnatural things they have online. I was usually masturbating using sexual magic for means of advancement. It's really hard to reach climax but building the desire initself is intense channeling but not the climax, and that's because my desires are abstract, where as I was assuming if I masturbate to the deities my devotion would supersede other things I hold as barriers.

And for someone knowledgeable in hindu system also clarify.

Sorry to say ,No body can ever do this thing to gods just like no one does this thing to their parents ..the gods are like our mother and father ,and hence in the main website,we call our God as Father Satan and astarte and Lilith as our mother ..Even thinking this way itself shows perversion ..gods are the most powerful beings,be it Hindu,,Roman,,Celtic,Egyptian,Sumerian ,Greek or whatever gods ,,all are like our mother and father who are there to guide their children ..This kind of perverted thoughts come because of heavy damage of your sacral (orange) chakra ..Clean it as many times as you can using either sowilo or Surya or algiz or raum ...Hindu goddess are also our gods,which means they are also our parents like ..This world is evil which has so much affected u sub consciously ..Please do the above cleaning ..

 

[Crealbox999]

Yes you can offer the energy that comes from climax. Although, you must not masturbate to a God/dess, you are only offering energy. What I mean is that you should not imagine a God/dess while masturbating in any way, just after it, send them the energy that came from it.

Imagining them in a sexual way can be disrespectful.

You're right, but I wasn't really going to imagine them in a sexual way, I've mentioned that, I was speaking about masturbating while remembering their image or sigil or both. It's like for example if I wake up honey from alot of energy work Instead of being tempted to fantasize elsewhere i can focus on the goddess. Its keeping boundaries rather than imagining a woman bent over that's is disrespectful I know. But that stuff becomes something insignificant once the habit of jerking to abstract ideas becomes made.

I was Jernigan off to the veil a while back, the invisible field that holds objects and also raising energy, after 2 attempts I gained super senses and felt above my body or elevated. So not it's not the human type of trying to bust a nut and butt obsessions. Also I had sexual dreams with maha kali and feel very turned on by the goddess. It's not how you think it is or the way porn made it seem, I felt ashamed at first but that's because of those nasty abrahamic programs. They also have sex in hindu temples, how is masturbating to a deity a bad thing it's the highest form of love

 

[Crealbox999]

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Sorry to say ,No body can ever do this thing to gods just like no one does this thing to their parents ..the gods are like our mother and father ,and hence in the main website,we call our God as Father Satan and astarte and Lilith as our mother ..Even thinking this way itself shows perversion ..gods are the most powerful beings,be it Hindu,,Roman,,Celtic,Egyptian,Sumerian ,Greek or whatever gods ,,all are like our mother and father who are there to guide their children ..This kind of perverted thoughts come because of heavy damage of your sacral (orange) chakra ..Clean it as many times as you can using either sowilo or Surya or algiz or raum ...Hindu goddess are also our gods,which means they are also our parents like ..This world is evil which has so much affected u sub consciously ..Please do the above cleaning ..
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Thanks for suggesting but your point of view is based on the idea on their power and exaltedness and to look at the rules of like looking at sexual things neglectfully and bad (to get away from), i think you feel uneasy. It's understandable but i think it's parasitic to think that way and it comes from yawheys systems.

Being horney is natural and it's yawhwehs said it was not, they made it problematic. It doesn't need to be graphic like porn and the unbelievable things they show in it. It's rather directing energy and fortifying the self fron anything that can become an obstacle and staying inbound. Porn and sex is being used as a weapon now btw because It's a natural expression. Father satan accepts us all as we are, and I feel like your thinking is plagued by social correctness from yawheh systems not to offend you. I actually was gonna get started with the kenaz hagl nauthiz or Eihwaz Ehwaz logr
To seek answers from beyond this dimension

Even if masturbating to the Gods could be distasteful if it's used to combat the filth spread by yawheys porn sites and social media advertising and subliminals to endorse yawheys political correctness then at least it's better to be on the better end of the bad side instead of the worse end of guilt which they call "sin" (which btw is also a benevolent deity the yawheys curse). It's obvious after busting a nut most people are dissatisfied, the reason is yawhey!

 

[AFODO]

Yes, orgasm, and sexual interactions is important and is called Maithuna, which is one of the fold of the 8 fold path that leads to Godhood.

The thing is that the Gods is thousands of years more wiser, advanced, and older than you.
You are very far from their level and its just inappropriate to even think about having sex with them.
You need to be advanced and wise to even talk with them face to face.

 

[Satanic Avenger 666]

You're right, but I wasn't really going to imagine them in a sexual way, I've mentioned that, I was speaking about masturbating while remembering their image or sigil or both.

Well if you are merely masturbating while visualizing their sigil why not do the same thing with the male gods too? If it's only focused on the female deities then it's sexual, obviously.

 

[Crealbox999]

Yes, orgasm, and sexual interactions is important and is called Maithuna, which is one of the fold of the 8 fold path that leads to Godhood.

The thing is that the Gods is thousands of years more wiser, advanced, and older than you.
You are very far from their level and its just inappropriate to even think about having sex with them.
You need to be advanced and wise to even talk with them face to face.

Right, well we all are how we are. Who knows they probably did something similar prior to their level of advancement. Thinking the self as insignificant is the plague of today made by the parasite. Satan doesn't need worship they rather love see us advance.

For example imagine a woman with all the qualities and fierceness you love to see and she's a Godess And you are on the path of being God, so don't want her but you want something else and only want something from goddess at times without accepting her her feminine. I don't know but nothing screams freedom like sex with God!! It's the best way to say Fuck yawheh

Plus on the good end of things I can feel easy about the conspiracies and energy harvesting schemes placed on humanity and doubts that arise about jos at times. Most new age stuff or new Cagey Movement use same yawheh constructs of hierarchies and stuff to exploit souls for ones that break free from their former yawheh programs. Rather similar concepts are introduced to reel them back to the energy harvesting Farm like before except with a rather new construct.

The clergy here is the most honest I've run in to from exploring endless books and systems on the occult. And that's in mentioned energy donations, it's really kind to inform people, but the thing about worshiping is kind of weird and not sataney because of free will, but I can agree nothing is perfect and things get better in time.

I feel like people often fail to understand there is no worship in true love, there's only devotion in all ways even using sex. And I'm glad you mentioned if it's real it is beautiful if it's real. I was masturbating to God the veil the nothingness or the astral net web. But like compare it to Maha kali she's really magnetic for me and fierce Goddess from shiva and she's like my type to like her but I can feel astarte can also be ideal for advancing, among others. It's a question of freedom or worship

 

[Crealbox999]

Yes, orgasm, and sexual interactions is important and is called Maithuna, which is one of the fold of the 8 fold path that leads to Godhood.

The thing is that the Gods is thousands of years more wiser, advanced, and older than you.
You are very far from their level and its just inappropriate to even think about having sex with them.
You need to be advanced and wise to even talk with them face to face.

And in a way to be honest I avoid using sex positions in which the goddess is submitting, because she's the goddess and that's is not good a good view of the goddess. But there are other sex positions that can work using the mind. It's like I know women would love if satan comes and sex them they will hold that like a badge of honor so why not for men??

The stinking yawheh system degraded women for as long as they've been there as sex icons and half naked breeding machines or full covered breeding machines. That's why I'm drawn to maha kali the Goddess. It's really bad even they potray women with aspects that aren't really nice or like warriors types and instead like everything sexy and nice. That's not good and that's where maybe your idea comes from in your subconscious that women have to submit or perverted sex positions made by yawheh consciousness.

It should be pleasant to imagine sex activities of that sort, I'm sure women would love to (secretly).
Even at night maybe, there's nothing wrong with it and these sorts of talks should be considered common. At times people with programs they haven't quite killed off find theirselves in other systems unintentionally contaminating the systems which help free sols. And although it's all just moving towards advancement, the clergy should consider it something to think about

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

You're right, but I wasn't really going to imagine them in a sexual way, I've mentioned that, I was speaking about masturbating while remembering their image or sigil or both. It's like for example if I wake up honey from alot of energy work Instead of being tempted to fantasize elsewhere i can focus on the goddess. Its keeping boundaries rather than imagining a woman bent over that's is disrespectful I know. But that stuff becomes something insignificant once the habit of jerking to abstract ideas becomes made.

I was Jernigan off to the veil a while back, the invisible field that holds objects and also raising energy, after 2 attempts I gained super senses and felt above my body or elevated. So not it's not the human type of trying to bust a nut and butt obsessions. Also I had sexual dreams with maha kali and feel very turned on by the goddess. It's not how you think it is or the way porn made it seem, I felt ashamed at first but that's because of those nasty abrahamic programs. They also have sex in hindu temples, how is masturbating to a deity a bad thing it's the highest form of love

Dude, you just had a dream and got horny, and no, that wasn't the effect of enemy dirt, it's a way of sanity thinking about how weird and uncomfortable and shameful that can be.
Ask yourself what the Goddess in question thinks about it? Is she comfortable having someone masturbate in her secrecy?
And all because of a trigger that yes! Is it sexual?

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

Yes, orgasm, and sexual interactions is important and is called Maithuna, which is one of the fold of the 8 fold path that leads to Godhood.

The thing is that the Gods is thousands of years more wiser, advanced, and older than you.
You are very far from their level and its just inappropriate to even think about having sex with them.
You need to be advanced and wise to even talk with them face to face.

It's good to remember that the vast majority already have a partner, so an act like this would be offending not just one but two.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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Sexuality represents a way to connect to individuals, so we have to be mindful of the energy we give off here. If I blasted you with sexual energy, you might not like or want this, so this could be taken as potentially unethical, especially if my intentions are poor.

Your intentions are good, but you should also make sure your interactions are not seen as inappropriate. There is a big difference in giving your orgasm energy to a God versus visualizing yourself having sex with them. I think you should simply ask the God(s) what they want from you, and what they think is ok.

Being devoted to them in this sense, and providing them energy, shouldn't be seen as bad, but you want to go about this right way. Chances are, you can shift your mindset to something that both parties would see as appropriate and are happy with, however I cannot delineate this for you.

 

[Crealbox999]

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Sexuality represents a way to connect to individuals, so we have to be mindful of the energy we give off here. If I blasted you with sexual energy, you might not like or want this, so this could be taken as potentially unethical, especially if my intentions are poor.

Your intentions are good, but you should also make sure your interactions are not seen as inappropriate. There is a big difference in giving your orgasm energy to a God versus visualizing yourself having sex with them. I think you should simply ask the God(s) what they want from you, and what they think is ok.

Being devoted to them in this sense, and providing them energy, shouldn't be seen as bad, but you want to go about this right way. Chances are, you can shift your mindset to something that both parties would see as appropriate and are happy with, however I cannot delineate this for you.

That's a really good point I didn't think about, I apologize if I seemed selfish and disrespectful here I think was. My intention were just that but without considering the other party will. I will have to correct myself. First I want you to think about something i think about. I am looking at it from an angle of how many satans are there and how many Astartes there could be, because it's evident there are alot of yawhes and elohims masquerading as one to make a farm out of all of us for their bandit club of freeloaders

It brought other questions in me, like why i should care to as is who's the true satan or Yawheh?, why should I care about satan or yawheh? When did I meet them to care about them? Outside of advancing to see for myself.... etc so i sorted it in a set of class or hierarchies to understand better what I'm faced with. Starting from our inner satan and the factor potential.
I classed the satans and Godesses similar to as heads of state in higher dimensions, things rather change inevitably. Heads of state change but maybe satan rules for many many life times of ours and if change for new satan then it's evident that satans and astartes are clearly many or close to many, in term measured by potential. This is how I also view it. The potential factor.
Isn't it like cultivating our inner satan to grow to be in satan. I hope i am not sounding confusing. Many traditions in the past held names they lived up to and those names were names of power, same way we vibrate names here.


sanatan dharma hindu traditional understanding shiva vishnu Brahman are all allegories and real, it's pointed out that one has an inner shiva vishnu and Brahman, and yet the deities are external at the same time. But some I guess just believe one or the other now because of massive corruption, btw whay do you guys here call kali, the goddess that arose from shiva to cause destruction and hence the term kali yuga

I am approaching it from that angle
Thanks for understanding

 

[Crealbox999]

relax we're learning here

 

[Crealbox999]

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Sexuality represents a way to connect to individuals, so we have to be mindful of the energy we give off here. If I blasted you with sexual energy, you might not like or want this, so this could be taken as potentially unethical, especially if my intentions are poor.

Your intentions are good, but you should also make sure your interactions are not seen as inappropriate. There is a big difference in giving your orgasm energy to a God versus visualizing yourself having sex with them. I think you should simply ask the God(s) what they want from you, and what they think is ok.
Being devoted to them in this sense, and providing them energy, shouldn't be seen as bad, but you want to go about this right way. Chances are, you can shift your mindset to something that both parties would see as appropriate and are happy with, however I cannot delineate this for you.

And also to add that i am just using it to avoid being trapped by the real thing or like porn. Like I don't want to connect to an individual in real life and be fucked up just because I wanted company. Plus society made all men into whores and women too but criticses women and not men. So it's can be an obstacle in advancing unless that slot is filled and there's no room for the enemy to come at me from.I definitely am careful in using my mind but I am not a pervert. Lkke I find women look at me and I feel them and they're checking me out with pervert thoughts and now their energy is like stuck on me because my awareness already picked up on it, or subconsciously it comes. Btw misusing sexual energy has a great potential to kill days and days of workings for advancing.

For instance I used the meditations to get to higher awareness by which I can only call it unreal or astral then I kinda missed jacking off to those girls I thought were cute, but they just looked disgusting doing porn, so I just did it anyways because I had free time and wanted to feel human. Btw I adopted porn as a discipline to cope with those empty slots but not compulsively, which is just in the mind. But now I noticed even before I noticed that there are astral hooks and lines that porn sites use to harvest souls as products. It's really wicked because from a higher awareness most people don't know the creature they are looking at or what is really happening isn't on the screen rather it is to the viewer. Really spooky shit used for soul harvesting and probably blatantly stated in the terms and conditions section for disclosure. I wouldn't know

And even more spooky is the real thing and without knowing the soul of the person with whom it's done. So that's why it's like from the safe side I'm mention my intent for masturbating to the goddesses other wise intense build up is not good without a direction. And can't expect to always be ready to pull or push a direction out of the blues while still advancing. I mean I I think there's nothing wrong to do it safely and as long as it's not obsessive it should be fine, because the gods care for us and want to help us and why should the partner of the god or goddess care as long as we're honor both of them?? Like Christian marriages are not right and especially Muslim marriages.

Like if I had a wife and we are both on good terms spiritually with a good bond I would share my wife with you. And she has total free will, can't expect or force commitment unless the relationship was totally based on material or property based, including the wife as belonging to the husband
I thought these things through in my meditations but I respect it all, just don't see the gods restricting their female counterparts or like demanding us to follow some script, I suppose the measure our deepest and true intentions. I don't want to get on the wrong side of the playing field by offending the gods, but I think they will guide us if it's an offensive thing or an ugly thing.
All of the nonsense restrictions are from the yawhehs, it's so clear

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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You should care about Satan and the other Gods because you are part of a spiritual family in which they want to help you grow. It would not be improbable to state that you have likely been and continue to be blessed by them even now, although you may not necessarily feel it.

Although we do have potential to grow, so does Satan have potential to grow, and in this sense he will always maintain his position as our teacher for not just us, but other Gods as well. The names of the Gods help you grow in their footsteps, but you cannot literally replace a God.

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Yes, porn is not good and should be replaced. I see that you have good intentions towards the Gods and are also trying to avoid personal damage to yourself, so I don't think you deserve as harsh of words as others gave. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that viewing a God as your sexual partner is appropriate, either.

The Gods do care for us, and are also secure in their own relationships, but you cannot necessarily assume that it is fully acceptable for both you or them.

I don't want you to return to porn or anything, which is why I asked you to first ask the Gods about it and ask them help you find an appropriate outlet for your sexual energy. Giving your orgasm to a God is ok, but I don't believe imagining them as participating in any sexual act on you is appropriate, simply because they did not give consent to this.

 

[Onbael_]

It's a mistake I personally made, I'm not ashamed to say, it's in the past and I've moved on.

I felt drawn by the energies of the Goddess Astarte, and summarising I did not put myself through so much trouble and let it happen.

A connection is made, but even with the purest of intentions as I had it, it ends up bringing confusion and illusion, if it doesn't do it now it will do it later.

It is important to understand why one is drawn to a particular God and Goddess, and how this attraction can benefit us, without falling into illusions.

The only case in which it is acceptable to masturbate fantasising about a deity is if one is in a relationship with a Demon Lover ('nightmares', 'succubi' to understand each other).

The important thing if this kind of mistake happens is to recognise that you have made a mistake and to apologise sincerely, and then work out how to create a right and truly fruitful relationship.

Giving sexual energy to the Gods is fine, as is giving normal energy, but it must be done for the right cause and motivation.

 

[Crealbox999]

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You should care about Satan and the other Gods because you are part of a spiritual family in which they want to help you grow. It would not be improbable to state that you have likely been and continue to be blessed by them even now, although you may not necessarily feel it.

Although we do have potential to grow, so does Satan have potential to grow, and in this sense he will always maintain his position as our teacher for not just us, but other Gods as well. The names of the Gods help you grow in their footsteps, but you cannot literally replace a God.

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Yes, porn is not good and should be replaced. I see that you have good intentions towards the Gods and are also trying to avoid personal damage to yourself, so I don't think you deserve as harsh of words as others gave. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that viewing a God as your sexual partner is appropriate, either.

The Gods do care for us, and are also secure in their own relationships, but you cannot necessarily assume that it is fully acceptable for both you or them.

I don't want you to return to porn or anything, which is why I asked you to first ask the Gods about it and ask them help you find an appropriate outlet for your sexual energy. Giving your orgasm to a God is ok, but I don't believe imagining them as participating in any sexual act on you is appropriate, simply because they did not give consent to this.

I feel like the term God is the greatest lie ever told by you know who and lots of suffering has gone into it, and even continues to and how about if it's just existence there was and is and your feelings of loneliness is for you to deal with and shouldn't be satans burden. More similar to the play of words but i notice Satan is the gate out of their makeshift reality of witchcraft, as there's always an opening to all stories.

Can the act of observation make life simply a dream and can we be imagining ourselves? And how about being alone in the dream? And what if they simply don't care for you, why can't you care for yourself? I feel you are approaching things from the former projection of finding or holding on to love (simply an observation) to light up many bio electrical impulses because you view it as completion. How are you sure Satanists aren't getting pimped ? (Not in a disrespectful way)
I Remember I thought it's jusy a word away to make feelings happen.

They ruined porn tbh I am disgusted at what they've made it into. It's really pathetic and all the roleplay is gone, they're just like robots bopping to get something out their bodies. The women are really disgusting, even i noticed some porn is like illegal exploitation of women, but many porn giants ignore that because they have evil motives. And that's just the half of it, they're selling sex slaves without arms or legs on the dark net.
Just when I lose faith in humanity it just gets worse. And blaming jews isn't the entirety

Humanity hates itself and now someone can maybe relate why jacking off to "god" can help this nightmare

 

[Crealbox999]

It's a mistake I personally made, I'm not ashamed to say, it's in the past and I've moved on.

I felt drawn by the energies of the Goddess Astarte, and summarising I did not put myself through so much trouble and let it happen.

A connection is made, but even with the purest of intentions as I had it, it ends up bringing confusion and illusion, if it doesn't do it now it will do it later.

It is important to understand why one is drawn to a particular God and Goddess, and how this attraction can benefit us, without falling into illusions.

The only case in which it is acceptable to masturbate fantasising about a deity is if one is in a relationship with a Demon Lover ('nightmares', 'succubi' to understand each other).

The important thing if this kind of mistake happens is to recognise that you have made a mistake and to apologise sincerely, and then work out how to create a right and truly fruitful relationship.

Giving sexual energy to the Gods is fine, as is giving normal energy, but it must be done for the right cause and motivation.

It's a natural response It's not a mistake I believe. I usually have many voices in my head and often what I want is not what I want. I was feeling weird I mentioned it even (hey can I masturbate to your Gods?). LIke today I feel totally weird I would 3ven think about things like this and defend the idea.
Like wtf happened to me 3 or 4 days ago?


nightmare succubis really? as demon lovers. They like sleeping around and that's not of noble chaste. You know picking up whores is easy, I never picked up a whore in life, most whores can 6th sense people like seeking a fuck buddy and project their desires. Whores are really dangerous and spirit whores are the same, the difference is only the density. I sleep on my side so they don't hump me btw

 

[Onbael_]

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I used the words 'incubi' and 'succubi' because it is only us who call them Demon Lovers, an outsider or new member would not understand the reference, because 'incubi and succubi' are also referred to on JoS for the same reason.

Whereas nightmare was a translation error from the italian "incubo".

 

[Crealbox999]

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I used the words 'incubi' and 'succubi' because it is only us who call them Demon Lovers, an outsider or new member would not understand the reference, because 'incubi and succubi' are also referred to on JoS for the same reason.

Whereas nightmare was a translation error from the italian "incubo".

Thanks for mentioning i didn't know it is a word derivative, I thought the new agey spiritual communities made it up. They have cosplay porn on it too maybe fandom. It kinda repulsive and similar to how tantra had been hi jacked to mean something different

 

[Sakra]

It's also important to remember that many of the Gods have wives and lovers of their own, this can also potentially bring upon trouble to yourself.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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You realize this through interaction with the Gods and seeking out their love and attention. Many times I have received signs from them without asking, for example, so this is not just an imagined projection of my mind, or whatever.

The situation on earth is bad and we cannot exactly be distancing ourselves from any possible allies here, nor do I find it strange to seek this support from the allies of which all ancient human civilizations called as our Gods, and who the Jews called evil.

The functional reason as to why they care, beyond just simple empathy, is that we exist as a colony of their empire, and of their spiritual family. As we are like children to them, this is why we cannot just care for ourselves, nor would this be wise.

If a being on the level of the Gods wanted to just "pimp you" or whatever negative actions you fear, this would happen regardless of whether you submit or not, so in reality it is not anything that we can realistically concern ourselves with.

 

[Derek-kev-]

I don't see the problem, in all left hand currents orgasm is used to empower sigils, statues and necklaces.
Streams like 218, 182, temple of ascending flame, vampiric rituals like the book of akhkharu etc.
Although in JoS current they focus on other kind of works and could see it wrong as several comments already told you, JoS their current directs other kind of energies and they are not very different from right handers like christianity, catholicism etc, as they always talk about those ways and self perceive themselves as the only true "correct" satanists yet Maxine has history ....
Anyway, try to investigate other streams, JoS has good stuff but some just don't agree at least in my personal opinion, nice night.