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Question #2954: Query on Licit and Illicit Substances?

Ask Satya Operator

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Pythia: To each of their own; alcohol and or drugs. Responsible to the Responsible.

I'm aware the War on Drugs is bad, it's caused untold suffering to people and seems to be a financial blackhole for nefarious actors. Ex: CIA delivering crack to inner cities meme.

1. Is JoS against the War on Drugs?

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2. Where does JoS get the idea that drugs cause issues to the aura and or soul? Ex: Pokes holes in the aura.

I've read of Yogis in the India/S.E.A.N. and other places stating drugs damage the soul or parts of it. Some have gone even so far as to state some consumption of such substances can lead to damaging the soul for lifetimes requiring various reincarnations to fix.

I'm not asking for beyond reasonable proof. I'm simply asking for reasonable proof. There seems to be no scientific properties on power meditation or properties of afflicting the soul. Science and the Occult go hand-in-hand but not in our current reality. It seems many people just want to relax for a few hours after a weary day at the Job. It seems substances or drugs are a method by which someone can get a vacation from themselves and their lives.

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3. Isn't it fair to state some people would benefit from their usage? I'd like to understand why JoS looks so down on substances especially those people who such as myself do extensive researching, reading trip reports, contemplating i.e. pre-emptive intellectual understanding!

It's been stated the drug not the user through meditation is in control. But it seems to be on more than one occasion members or should I say posters have stated meditation is really difficult or certain meditations work and others falter.

I'm just curious why the JoS has this memetic understanding of the Hippies and Yuppies who consumed a shitload of drugs due to lack of information. Basically a young person takes the amounts of the past and wakes up humping a tree or something. And then these people have the hypocritical advice not to consume substances which they failed at the information war in consuming them at moderated levels.

Basically, very few people had an intuitive go low and slow approach.

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[Unfortunately, I kinda get the feeling most people looking at meditation see it as a fun, trip out, and then return to normal. I'm reminded of people who studied Lucid Dreaming and Astral projection and view it as something to do in their time. There seems to be horizontal expansion but no vertical i.e. progress AND evolution. It seems like meditation is supposed to do "something".

But...

Unfortunately, I feel like JoS is a Saturn Prison 'Meditation and meditation only' or else, to a degree of are people masochist and or sadist. Some and questionably due to the internet and anonymity seem like they could make it up. State meditation is wonderful etc.etc. but as a very Saturnian person even discipline to meditation it's fraught with a dark cloud.

I even kinda get the feeling as a dedicated member that if I so much as step out of line I get punished by the Gods for trying to enjoy my life using such substances. Hence another reason why I'm concerned with using them. Sheer fact is I certainly live a very Saturnesque life.]

FYI:I don't plan on using, I study. I'm not into risking my life getting in trouble with law enforcement due to such products nor questionable people who may or may not lace your substance.
 
You live a Saturnesque life in terms of pessimism and nitpicking because your longest meditation by your own admission was 16 days, and you also did a bunch of Saturn Squares because the either sadistic or foolish likes of Shael and Ghost told you to. In my estimation this was probably one of the worst pieces of 'advice' I've seen be given out here.

With that in mind, how can you say Magick is pointless?
 
existentialcrisis said:

I have sympathy for him for how depressed he must be. Nobody should have to live like that. But I'm not at all happy about him blaming every problem in his life on the gods. And how he works to try to turn people away from the gods by lying that nobody could ever be helped.
 

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