AskSatanOperator
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would like to know the economic difference of national socialism and socialism.
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Question #1832: NS It's like Marxism
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Your mistake is assuming we are Marxists, the marxists dupes and capitalist dupes have been at liberty to malign NS.
NS is a YZ technology a Year Zero, now not a bloody year zero but a bloodless fix. It is revolutionary in nature, anti-parliamentarian, and by and by contains an all-wing property. I've come to the conclusion in my limited understanding of NS it's an all wing property it contains the leftist revolutionary aspect and the right conservative reactionary. Albeit conservative towards a Pagan property.
Economic speaking socialism as you put it is anti-NS, in fact capitalism, socialism, and communism are pretty much the same triangle. As in modern society we deal with Neo-Con/Neo-Lib both sides of the same coin.
The reality is we may probably never know what NS is nor do we even understand NS from a historical aspect. The reality is they came at a unique time and it required half- the nations on Earth just to beat Germany back down into kosher supervision particular Rothschildian banking system.
In Collected Writings of Gottfried Feder Hitler and Feder postulate to major things. Abolition of the Government once NS has established itself on Earth. Unfortunately Hitler was a bit short-sighted on this as society progresses the Government becomes important. I highly doubt the Gods are headless decentralized properties.
Feder postulates his own a taxless Utopia, I don't know how long that would take especially considering printing money is inflatory. You need enough money to maintain a supply but not enough money that it ruins the economy. A while back I believe, Stormblood? was discussing on an economic thread stating if you have a Government making money from stores and taxes basically if the Government makes money there can be a controlled expansion of the money supply within reasonable terms to enrich society. I believe the person in question stated the earning of money allows it to maintain an expansion as there is a cover.
It almost reminds me of Private Banking and especially with Griffith's Americana old-time style of Banking system i.e. pre-FedRes.
As for the German economy it is more German Socialism hell even Spenglerian Socialism has some positive things.
I think one of the issues many people have is the marxist/capitalist dupe property whereby the Marxists call us Capitalist Dupes and the Capitalist Dupes call us Socialist Dupes.
There is no Marxist socialism in National Socialism. Rather it's a completely different beast.
Maybe 10 years ago NS would have rubbed Americans and many other people the wrong way. But like HP.Cobra said and I iterated before it was a unique time and a unique property arose. Hell Feder almost speaks like he is an internet era person describing the kosher financial conspiracy with his four scourges; Market, International, Currency -spectulation as well as Big Loan capital.
Germany did a 180 and literally almost beat the U.S. GDP in 1938 despite higher inflation. The inflation in 1937 was at it's lowest and then by '38 it increased slightly.
Collected Writings is good, I like the German translated Thralldom for Manifesto on Abolition of Interest-Debt Thralldom. Thralldom is a word like slavery but it's connotation is it's embedded into reality and is considered sometimes akin to the whole excessive freedom can be a crippling form of slavery for some for having too much things.
Unfortunately like it's been said. We can go on and on with NS and even modernize is as HP.Lymlal stated in her pamphlet that NS was losing ground to other organizations gaining new understandings. The reality is the economy and finances is the main crux of political parties. NS basically established something different starting from zero.
I can go all day. But many people would need a total crash course from the ground up. People are too economic and historically illiterate to understand NS or history.
NS came at a unique time and established a vision of Earth without the bullshit. Hitler and Feder and others established something that shows there is something different.
Now a days as Feder puts it everyone is a "spiritual jew" and "mammonistically poisoned" i.e. they act like jews and only care about money and finances.
If your willing to ask more specific questions I can try and answer and others. But your blanket statement of "we wuz markzists 'n' sheit" is TOTALLY off the wall.
Albeit just because the marxists and we oppose them doesn't mean we can't sublimate some of their things and enact laws on it.
Like Feder goes 1926/1927 Reichstag year the Communist party gains full support from NS party for a financial change in Germany. Which the centralist, progressive, socialists, and democrats approve of. While the entire CDU, Christian Democratic Union; opposed wholly. Although I believe he said the measure passed cause the wings of the different parties out voted the CDU who was the biggest party but lost seats over the last few years.
Again please ask more questions. I can only go so far.
NS is a YZ technology a Year Zero, now not a bloody year zero but a bloodless fix. It is revolutionary in nature, anti-parliamentarian, and by and by contains an all-wing property. I've come to the conclusion in my limited understanding of NS it's an all wing property it contains the leftist revolutionary aspect and the right conservative reactionary. Albeit conservative towards a Pagan property.
Economic speaking socialism as you put it is anti-NS, in fact capitalism, socialism, and communism are pretty much the same triangle. As in modern society we deal with Neo-Con/Neo-Lib both sides of the same coin.
The reality is we may probably never know what NS is nor do we even understand NS from a historical aspect. The reality is they came at a unique time and it required half- the nations on Earth just to beat Germany back down into kosher supervision particular Rothschildian banking system.
In Collected Writings of Gottfried Feder Hitler and Feder postulate to major things. Abolition of the Government once NS has established itself on Earth. Unfortunately Hitler was a bit short-sighted on this as society progresses the Government becomes important. I highly doubt the Gods are headless decentralized properties.
Feder postulates his own a taxless Utopia, I don't know how long that would take especially considering printing money is inflatory. You need enough money to maintain a supply but not enough money that it ruins the economy. A while back I believe, Stormblood? was discussing on an economic thread stating if you have a Government making money from stores and taxes basically if the Government makes money there can be a controlled expansion of the money supply within reasonable terms to enrich society. I believe the person in question stated the earning of money allows it to maintain an expansion as there is a cover.
It almost reminds me of Private Banking and especially with Griffith's Americana old-time style of Banking system i.e. pre-FedRes.
As for the German economy it is more German Socialism hell even Spenglerian Socialism has some positive things.
I think one of the issues many people have is the marxist/capitalist dupe property whereby the Marxists call us Capitalist Dupes and the Capitalist Dupes call us Socialist Dupes.
There is no Marxist socialism in National Socialism. Rather it's a completely different beast.
Maybe 10 years ago NS would have rubbed Americans and many other people the wrong way. But like HP.Cobra said and I iterated before it was a unique time and a unique property arose. Hell Feder almost speaks like he is an internet era person describing the kosher financial conspiracy with his four scourges; Market, International, Currency -spectulation as well as Big Loan capital.
Germany did a 180 and literally almost beat the U.S. GDP in 1938 despite higher inflation. The inflation in 1937 was at it's lowest and then by '38 it increased slightly.
Collected Writings is good, I like the German translated Thralldom for Manifesto on Abolition of Interest-Debt Thralldom. Thralldom is a word like slavery but it's connotation is it's embedded into reality and is considered sometimes akin to the whole excessive freedom can be a crippling form of slavery for some for having too much things.
Unfortunately like it's been said. We can go on and on with NS and even modernize is as HP.Lymlal stated in her pamphlet that NS was losing ground to other organizations gaining new understandings. The reality is the economy and finances is the main crux of political parties. NS basically established something different starting from zero.
I can go all day. But many people would need a total crash course from the ground up. People are too economic and historically illiterate to understand NS or history.
NS came at a unique time and established a vision of Earth without the bullshit. Hitler and Feder and others established something that shows there is something different.
Now a days as Feder puts it everyone is a "spiritual jew" and "mammonistically poisoned" i.e. they act like jews and only care about money and finances.
If your willing to ask more specific questions I can try and answer and others. But your blanket statement of "we wuz markzists 'n' sheit" is TOTALLY off the wall.
Albeit just because the marxists and we oppose them doesn't mean we can't sublimate some of their things and enact laws on it.
Like Feder goes 1926/1927 Reichstag year the Communist party gains full support from NS party for a financial change in Germany. Which the centralist, progressive, socialists, and democrats approve of. While the entire CDU, Christian Democratic Union; opposed wholly. Although I believe he said the measure passed cause the wings of the different parties out voted the CDU who was the biggest party but lost seats over the last few years.
Again please ask more questions. I can only go so far.
Onbael_
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National Socialism is about a natural and spiritual order based on people and development, a good example may be Ancient Egypt.
Essentially it is the path of harmony on which all future human development is based.
In a democracy, everyone has equal power. Imagine a junkie, rapist having the same power as Pharaoh, that would be 100% insane, also in a democracy there are multiple parties, which makes a country divided and uncertain in the future.
In communism you essentially become just an object, so people are like animals in a slaughterhouse, while ex-capitalists are in charge of the government and own everything, including your person.
I am not an expert in economics, but it seems obvious to me that in national socialism you have a chance to advance on merit, in democracy you have a chance to advance economically even though propaganda is against economic success and capitalism is favored, in communism you have nothing.
To sum up communism is the land of the land of slavery under the jews, democracy is a place where a literal lunatic can have great power and where a capitalist can move governmental choices with a donation to a party, it takes little to realize how vulnerable a democracy is.
Essentially it is the path of harmony on which all future human development is based.
In a democracy, everyone has equal power. Imagine a junkie, rapist having the same power as Pharaoh, that would be 100% insane, also in a democracy there are multiple parties, which makes a country divided and uncertain in the future.
In communism you essentially become just an object, so people are like animals in a slaughterhouse, while ex-capitalists are in charge of the government and own everything, including your person.
I am not an expert in economics, but it seems obvious to me that in national socialism you have a chance to advance on merit, in democracy you have a chance to advance economically even though propaganda is against economic success and capitalism is favored, in communism you have nothing.
To sum up communism is the land of the land of slavery under the jews, democracy is a place where a literal lunatic can have great power and where a capitalist can move governmental choices with a donation to a party, it takes little to realize how vulnerable a democracy is.
AskSatanOperator
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Gear88 said:
You have already answered my questions, I would just like to know why the NS should adopt some communist things? In what ways would you like the NS to be updated?
AskSatanOperator said:
I don't think you understand what I said. In 1926/1927 the NSDAP party made concessions. You can't really implement stuff without controlling the government now can you.
They merely sided with the communist party because they liked what they read. Now obviously if they were doing something wrong they'd oppose it.
It's not unlike here in the U.S. whereby there is a two party system with an outlier small third party. And concessions are made. For example Election regulation and security enhancement opposed by Democrats as hostile towards voting and wanted by Republicans to avoid a crisis. Sometimes there is bipartisan, sometimes out vote slim majority, nominal majority, supermajority.
Same thing here. I simply stated Feder in his book did discuss in those times working with them. If someone promotes something good generally it's not a bad thing. It seems like you misunderstood my message and think NS = marxism that is nice with some money. No that is not what I'm saying.
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