Proof of Heaven?

[asdkl777]

You claim that after death, one is either reincarnated or one's soul runs out of energy and dies. I have evidence against this. My father has visited me in a dream after he died and he was an angel wearing white robes with golden trim and 7 feet tall (2 meters+). A friend of him contacted me and told me they had a similar dream, and that he had golden curly hair. In Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection, he visits a dimension which he called the Atmic dimension, where he saw angels and his dead son, he also said that he could feel the presence of God. I believe this could be the kingdom of heaven.

 

[Arin]

You claim that after death, one is either reincarnated or one's soul runs out of energy and dies. I have evidence against this. My father has visited me in a dream after he died and he was an angel wearing white robes with golden trim and 7 feet tall (2 meters+). A friend of him contacted me and told me they had a similar dream, and that he had golden curly hair. In Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection, he visits a dimension which he called the Atmic dimension, where he saw angels and his dead son, he also said that he could feel the presence of God. I believe this could be the kingdom of heaven.

I dream of dead people, people dream of dead people. This is evidence how...? My father had a similar experience with my grandfather and acted on it and lemme tell ya, shit got bad fast and my family was nearly broken because of it. Don't assume its real or if it is don't assume it was your father. Seriously, my dad isn't the only person to get tricked by that bs.

Plus, the "atmic dimension" sounds like new age bullshit if I am being honest with you. This comes from an ex wiccan. I got nothing of value from that bs, nothing at all. The only thing I gained from it was an interest in mythology. That shit is a very slippery slope if you arent careful, always read with a critical mind and you'll save yourself a lot of trouble.

After years of newage bullshit, wiccan bullshit, "heathenry" bullshit, and much more I can tell you that JoS has been an absoloute goldmine for me and in my experience everything has been pretty accurate. Those books usually had no good info, or just plain lies. ( aside from a few outdated things on the site. )

If "paganism" was a collection of fruits then JoS would be the only one I've tried so far that isn't poisonous. Its not worth wasting your time over.

I have seen your other posts, and I can tell you that if you aren't careful you're going to fall into the pit known as new age paganism ( though it seems like you have already ). Ultimately its up to you to make the decision to either get serious or be willingly blind.

 

[Arin]

You claim that after death, one is either reincarnated or one's soul runs out of energy and dies. I have evidence against this. My father has visited me in a dream after he died and he was an angel wearing white robes with golden trim and 7 feet tall (2 meters+). A friend of him contacted me and told me they had a similar dream, and that he had golden curly hair. In Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection, he visits a dimension which he called the Atmic dimension, where he saw angels and his dead son, he also said that he could feel the presence of God. I believe this could be the kingdom of heaven.

And, as a side note I was raised in christianity as well. Utter bullshit, even more so then new age paganism. Read the damn book for real and you'll find multiple examples of mass genocide, cannibalism, blood sacrifices etc. Wake up.

 

[ToZ Forum Contributions]

Do you have any proof Robert Bruce is telling the truth.

If the whole claim of God is real why can you only find this in a dream. The fact is people who are connected can appear in each other dreams, have the identical dream and such. And one of you might have simply had a dream and this connected. How do you know you simply didn't connect into Christian energies astrally and this connected with your sub conscious mind and its desires and this also connected astrally with your friend who you share a connection with on the soul. Maybe your father did appear in a dream but this is how your own mind projected this due to unconscious programming and connections into Christian energies. The astral works differently then the material its not so fixed and its subjected to psychic influences and projections of the mind. And pulling this in a dream state is very much subjected to the unconscious language of the psyche and its numerous impressions.

One must actually work to clear the unconscious of the impressions in order to be a clear channel to the astral.

That is why when people die they see Christ, Buddha or whatever they are programmed with to experience as this connects into the astral realm and the thought forms created around these popular belief systems and how one is connected into such astral realms of human psychically generated phenomena.

Humans do reincarnate this is so well known its even been scientifically proven by the works of Dr. Ian Stevenson.

Given the entire Bible is made up and this has been documented many times for centuries. Its all a work of fiction then how is any of this real.
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You claim that after death, one is either reincarnated or one's soul runs out of energy and dies. I have evidence against this. My father has visited me in a dream after he died and he was an angel wearing white robes with golden trim and 7 feet tall (2 meters+). A friend of him contacted me and told me they had a similar dream, and that he had golden curly hair. In Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection, he visits a dimension which he called the Atmic dimension, where he saw angels and his dead son, he also said that he could feel the presence of God. I believe this could be the kingdom of heaven.

 

[ModernMage]

As someone who has died before I can say perception of death has a lot to do with your own beliefs. I was young and had no beliefs so all I saw was a huge void. People who think they have sinned all their life will probably think they are going to hell and that is partially true. It is what they have told their mind to believe.

You really need to come down to earth. I definitely get the feeling you are good person but you seem overly lost in your own mind. Actually do the cleaning meditations and protections otherwise I think you might go crazy.

 

[Aquarius]

That's just your mind, you wished so much that you actually met him. Now, you tell us you're not a xian but then spew all this crap that has basis in xianity. You certainly aren't a bright individual.

 

[darkmonkey666]

You claim that after death, one is either reincarnated or one's soul runs out of energy and dies. I have evidence against this. My father has visited me in a dream after he died and he was an angel wearing white robes with golden trim and 7 feet tall (2 meters+). A friend of him contacted me and told me they had a similar dream, and that he had golden curly hair. In Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection, he visits a dimension which he called the Atmic dimension, where he saw angels and his dead son, he also said that he could feel the presence of God. I believe this could be the kingdom of heaven.

When one dies one does not just riencanate immediately to the physical,souls usually stay in the astral for a certain amount of time until it is time for them to riencanate again,the amount of time varies,so the astral is normally were people see their loved ones who have passed away,it is not heaven per say in Christianity but the higher astral realm.

It is a natural process unless some other higher intervenes and reincarnates the person themselves such as Satan or one of the Gods. I think when the DNA and body as well as planet influences are right the person kind of gets pulled out of the astral and into the body. But this can take a long time or maybe it doesnt all the time but I don't think it's ever instant other than when the Gods are asked to take care of Family members I have heard they did it in a few cases including on a sermon by Pythia.

Past life memories don't feel like a different person or time or anything to be honest. It is the same me and same anyone I have met that i connected with before. I was most influenced by the stuff in the 60s in my current life oddly with attitudes. Plenty of older people have even told me that and that I would have loved to be around then but they don't know that I actually existed then and that's where I got this stuff lol.

Anyways back to the point I was making reincarnation is just a cycle it's a continuation or who we are now completely. If a person has meditated enough they probably will do it and not have a bad time in the astral. They may even see the higher astral realm which isn't like the slavish heaven I don't think more like really beautiful scenery as described in some OBE and NDE books. The lower astral is really horrible I know that for sure and there may even be places Corrupted Beings are torturing people in various ways if they get ahold of some souls.

These strong xtians are not going to see the higher astral in the afterlife. Because they don't know how raise their vibration to a point they can match and experience it.

To be honest from what I hear people can go in and out of any of the realms low to high and wherever they want but they have to be an experienced meditator those xtians can't do that.

They will just end up stuck somewhere with no knowledge of where they are in fear and waiting for either our Gods or the Enemy to find them whoever comes around first. I am sure the Gods help people sometimes. If the poster is worried about his dad why doesnt he ask.

 

[Usthepeople666]

You claim that after death, one is either reincarnated or one's soul runs out of energy and dies. I have evidence against this. My father has visited me in a dream after he died and he was an angel wearing white robes with golden trim and 7 feet tall (2 meters+). A friend of him contacted me and told me they had a similar dream, and that he had golden curly hair. In Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection, he visits a dimension which he called the Atmic dimension, where he saw angels and his dead son, he also said that he could feel the presence of God. I believe this could be the kingdom of heaven.

The only proof of heaven for me is Earth , right where we live. We just gotta rid of the enemy and free people and make it better. No point in having a "heaven" after death if you cant live happily here on Earth. But again happiness is subjective.
But I would rather make life awesome here than in some fairy tale astral bullshit made by people who if had been freed wouldn't live the way they live.

And what you got - has been explained by everyone here.

 

[InnerMercury20]

Get a grip.