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On Handling Spiritual Power In Zevist Context

Thank you, HP!
This post came at a perfect time. :)
 
Yeah the right hand path satanic organizations need to get themselves in order. Their accepting a lot of insults to their nature and being. I'm more of a left hand path guy myself, and I'm learning to put more time and effort into my practice of magick, mostly in the class of healing and energy work.
 
Personal Growth said:
In a way I'm now scared to advance and just like to do the cleaning and Final RTR.
What you are doing here is actually a very good thing. Because you still have dirt and traumas in some places, you instinctively dont want to "power up" more until this is gone. This is healthy and very much a good thing to follow.

After you reach a certain point, it's very important that you make sure you address any and all internal issues you may have, and clean them away. If you try to push past this point without cleaining anything, out of impatience and because "muh is already clean enough", then you will either fail, or end up like some long-term people here who are now a mental wreck. If you do not first clean away the dirt, you will end up empowering it further and making it even stronger. This is likely what these "emotional rollercoasters" you described were hinting at.

Keep cleaning yourself and addressing your hangups/issues one by one with dedicated workings. Over time you will have fixed all of them and feel much more stable, grounded, and ready for higher levels of power. :)
 
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Please list and explain the power you're talking about and what can one do with it ?
Hes talking about spiritual power. Are you new to this forum ?
Read the entire,
Joyofsatan.org first or you won't get what we're talking about here
 
Personal Growth said:
So to manifest say a million dollars a person would need a viable business model or idea
If I remember right, it has been said to attract things which are *achievable* for your power. One million dollars is not really that achievable, so trying to use magik to get 1 million dollars when you are not strong enough is just a waste of time. Instead, people can use magik for getting a better job or a payrise or things like this, which are easier to achieve.
 
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Please list and explain the power you're talking about and what can one do with it ?

The power to be a God yourself.

When you have a strong mind and aura your thoughts and emotions will affect the outer reality much more.

That's like your mind being your own personal genie. You can usually get your way and what you want.

What I've noticed is that if I'm hating on someone they will land up in some serious accident or some tragedy will strike them so as to get them away from being a bother to me.

Also you can pick up the vibe of a persons energy if they feel dirty and disgusting or clean and healthy.

I'm sure I was able to hear people's thoughts like they were speaking but they weren't speaking I could just pick up their thoughts and know exactly where I stand with them.

Also you can get like a premonition of the future. Like if you feel something bad is going to happen you are alerted to be extra aware and careful and you could prevent some harm coming your way because of the feeling putting you on notice of danger.

There are other siddhi's like putting your thoughts into other people's minds to get them to do what you want. And others like setting things on fire with your hand chakras or levitation etc.
 
Personal Growth said:
I have been more powerful in the past years. I was a consistent meditator and was buzzing with energy. In a way I'm now scared to advance and just like to do the cleaning and Final RTR.

When I was more spiritually powerful I couldn't sleep. And I was hot and sweating when I was sleeping. Also my senses were heightened and I felt annoyed and angry much easier. Yes I know void meditation to have a strong and controlled mind. But increasing spiritual power was increasing my emotions and it was not fun feeling like en emotional roller coaster.

I know that it's my duty and a necessity to advance because I deprive our side of much needed energy and power if I'm not advancing.

And it's true we are balanced. We are sound. Bullies are brutal because they're weak. The strong don't abuse power.

Would not the increased energy also give more energy for the RTR's? Sure, you experienced some sort of hiccup in your advancement, but aren't new obstacles supposed to be expected? Did you try seeking guidance from a Demon or from others who may have underwent similar situations? I do not mean to make light of your feelings on the matter, but I do not think the best decision was made, even if it is temporarily easier. More importantly, I do not think what you experienced was not resolveable.
 
Blitzkreig said:
Personal Growth said:
I have been more powerful in the past years. I was a consistent meditator and was buzzing with energy. In a way I'm now scared to advance and just like to do the cleaning and Final RTR.

When I was more spiritually powerful I couldn't sleep. And I was hot and sweating when I was sleeping. Also my senses were heightened and I felt annoyed and angry much easier. Yes I know void meditation to have a strong and controlled mind. But increasing spiritual power was increasing my emotions and it was not fun feeling like en emotional roller coaster.

I know that it's my duty and a necessity to advance because I deprive our side of much needed energy and power if I'm not advancing.

And it's true we are balanced. We are sound. Bullies are brutal because they're weak. The strong don't abuse power.

Would not the increased energy also give more energy for the RTR's? Sure, you experienced some sort of hiccup in your advancement, but aren't new obstacles supposed to be expected? Did you try seeking guidance from a Demon or from others who may have underwent similar situations? I do not mean to make light of your feelings on the matter, but I do not think the best decision was made, even if it is temporarily easier. More importantly, I do not think what you experienced was not resolveable.

I know mate. That was long ago before the RTR's like before the 2008 recession.

These days I'm always tired from work. So now I just do the Final RTR and cleaning. And 20 mins twice a day meditating on that sushumna nadi between nostrils on the nose.

I do what I can being busy with long hours at work. And it's true what you say, empowering would also create more energy to get things done.
 
Well I hate posting this as many will state you should find power in some way. Something has power. Kinda like an astrological chart statement I read whereby it states that as much power as I have in being such a way, the opposite or showing emotions is a form of power as well. In other words whether your strong or show what some now a days consider weakness, is a strength, i.e. showing emotion.

But what if you feel powerless and have been for a really long time? Like ever in other words what if you've never felt powerful.

I can't genuinely state a situation in which magick is involved whereby I did it for revenge or anything. In fact I have no idea what to do in revenge. I'm not gonna sit there doing days or weeks or some 40 day ritual on some random person for pissing me off only to never see the person ever again.

I hate to sound like a retard cause many will state this is xtianistic talk. But what is the point of all these offensive magicks if you never know what happens? Am I gonna advance spiritual in years and then have my GD for example tell me my ritual was successful or what.

For example I would love to do a magick ritual of revenge on a person that comes to our neighborhood who called in the police years ago and basically they stormed my house with a paddy wagon with police drawn with pistols and shotgun, all for simply having a mental health breakdown and doing something that is considered illegal. I feel like the force was excessive and all could have been resolved in a few minutes by a lone police officer instead of calling in 5 vehicles and a paddy wagon to "storm" my house. Hell they could have called an ambulance and taken me to some hospital rather than put me in holding for 3 days all the while suffering a mental illness.

But that occurred years ago does it bother me sure. But what can I say the person is a police officer called it in and shit broke lose. Hell it was such a chaotic day, it seems like the chaos was added unto the chaos.

But in the end, not to sound turn the other cheek. But what would be the point now of doing something against them?

I'm not asking a how-to on magick but more like "What is the point?" your never gonna see the person again. I'd rather be more satisfied beating the shit out of them. At least I see what my efforts have done rather than wonder forever if it did anything. Despite the fact I'm not in any way, shape, or form strong enough to beat anyone up. Just saying it, that physical effect seems more satisfying.

In fact it gets to the point of does this offensive magick even exists or is just the natural chaos of life itself.

Again I'm probably gonna get told I'm a xtian in Satanic clothing. Yeah I'll admit over the last few years I feel that way just being in here in a xtainistic matter. Not literally of course don't get me wrong just kinda unsure on things.
 
Gear88 said:
Well I hate posting this as many will state you should find power in some way. Something has power. Kinda like an astrological chart statement I read whereby it states that as much power as I have in being such a way, the opposite or showing emotions is a form of power as well. In other words whether your strong or show what some now a days consider weakness, is a strength, i.e. showing emotion.

But what if you feel powerless and have been for a really long time? Like ever in other words what if you've never felt powerful.

I can't genuinely state a situation in which magick is involved whereby I did it for revenge or anything. In fact I have no idea what to do in revenge. I'm not gonna sit there doing days or weeks or some 40 day ritual on some random person for pissing me off only to never see the person ever again.

I hate to sound like a retard cause many will state this is xtianistic talk. But what is the point of all these offensive magicks if you never know what happens? Am I gonna advance spiritual in years and then have my GD for example tell me my ritual was successful or what.

For example I would love to do a magick ritual of revenge on a person that comes to our neighborhood who called in the police years ago and basically they stormed my house with a paddy wagon with police drawn with pistols and shotgun, all for simply having a mental health breakdown and doing something that is considered illegal. I feel like the force was excessive and all could have been resolved in a few minutes by a lone police officer instead of calling in 5 vehicles and a paddy wagon to "storm" my house. Hell they could have called an ambulance and taken me to some hospital rather than put me in holding for 3 days all the while suffering a mental illness.

But that occurred years ago does it bother me sure. But what can I say the person is a police officer called it in and shit broke lose. Hell it was such a chaotic day, it seems like the chaos was added unto the chaos.

But in the end, not to sound turn the other cheek. But what would be the point now of doing something against them?

I'm not asking a how-to on magick but more like "What is the point?" your never gonna see the person again. I'd rather be more satisfied beating the shit out of them. At least I see what my efforts have done rather than wonder forever if it did anything. Despite the fact I'm not in any way, shape, or form strong enough to beat anyone up. Just saying it, that physical effect seems more satisfying.

In fact it gets to the point of does this offensive magick even exists or is just the natural chaos of life itself.

Again I'm probably gonna get told I'm a xtian in Satanic clothing. Yeah I'll admit over the last few years I feel that way just being in here in a xtainistic matter. Not literally of course don't get me wrong just kinda unsure on things.

Mate that's why we do the Final RTR.

The world is rotten and unfair. We're winning and working to end that type of abuse you had to experience.

You're suffering what they call trauma by learning how poorly the police can treat a person. And I'd suggest you trying to put it into the history books of your life experience.

I think throwing a ritual for something in the past is pointless and a waste of valuable energy. I'd only focus more energy and attention on something or someone that's actively causing me hassle now.

And when your aura is strong your enemies will get sorted out automatically.

You're not alone we are all in the same boat here. And we are all working with you here to end that sort of injustice.

I've also experienced something like that with the police. And it felt like the UK is communist and no one can see it. It broke my spirit and now I know not to bust an idiot deserving of a hiding up because the police will come and bust me up.

Remember straight out of the Talmud the goyim are not allowed to defend themselves.

Let that be motivation to keep doing what you do here my brother in arms.
 
For the past 3 years I have been active as a Spiritual Satanist and i have learned how important it is to Control the Power that we build as we Progress and Advance as S.S.Our Random thoughts,Focused thoughts..be it Positive or Negative have ConseQuences..You can use the Power that you have to Advance your Life and those of those around you.And at the same time that Power can wreck havoc especially if you can't keep it in check.But Luckily,we have Father Satan and The Powers of Hell who are directing us as we navigate this Satanic Path.
Hail Horus.
 
Personal Growth said:
I do what I can being busy with long hours at work. And it's true what you say, empowering would also create more energy to get things done.

I do not know what your specific cause of exhaustion is, but sleep deprivation will be hard to counter, although you could always take caffeine for that. A non-stimulating alternative to caffeine that also promotes wakefulness (by blocking the adenosine receptors in the brain, like caffeine) is theacrine. Otherwise you will have to do as much as possible to get more sleep. The caveat is that blocking adenosine receptors within 4-6 hours of sleep actually decreases the restfulness of the sleep by about 1/8.

As far as physical exhaustion goes, perhaps a small nap or rest period, combined with workings to increase energy may aid the physical aspect of exhaustion. Working on sleep hygiene can additionally offset some of the toll from working. UVA + IR light (morning sunlight) is necessary on the eye to produce melatonin. Additionally, blue light exposure on the skin and eye destroys melatonin, and prevents its proper secretion. Getting your morning sunlight and/or blocking all blue light will alone do wonders for the restful quality of your sleep.

As far as willpower exhaustion, you can actually regenerate willpower, acutely, through void meditation, thereby offsetting the willpower used during your job. Additionally, kidney qigong can give you a boost in willpower (especially after a long day of work) and this boost can be enough to propel you to starting void meditation. This kidney qigong is essentially 5 minutes of work and requires no mental effort, hence why it is so good for getting people out of rut. Any kidney qigong video on youtube will do. Particularly helpful to me is stimulating the leg meridians (the 6th exercise of 8 pieces of brocade) combined with rubbing my ears (search "kidney ear rub" on youtube).

Given that you willpower or overall energy is drained from work, you should try to schedule your workings to before the period that consumes the majority of willpower. This means waking up prior to work, however much time you need. I personally wake up 4-5 hours before my morning classes, some days at 5am, just to get in my work. I am like you where, once the day goes by, I feel less motivated to do additional mental work. This is a normal feeling, but not unsolveable. This could mean you have to sleep much sooner, perhaps right after work, however, but then all you need to do is the cleaning, and everything else could be done prior to work, when you are fully rested.

I give you these tips because you and I both know the importance of spiritual progression. While it is noble of you to continue to do RTR's, I also feel bad that you said your progression has waned, at least from the bioelectrical standpoint. There are not many people like you, so I don't like seeing a reduction in your power. Hopefully some of these tips help you, good luck!
 
Personal Growth said:
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Please list and explain the power you're talking about and what can one do with it ?

The power to be a God yourself.

When you have a strong mind and aura your thoughts and emotions will affect the outer reality much more.

That's like your mind being your own personal genie. You can usually get your way and what you want.

What I've noticed is that if I'm hating on someone they will land up in some serious accident or some tragedy will strike them so as to get them away from being a bother to me.

Also you can pick up the vibe of a persons energy if they feel dirty and disgusting or clean and healthy.

I'm sure I was able to hear people's thoughts like they were speaking but they weren't speaking I could just pick up their thoughts and know exactly where I stand with them.

Also you can get like a premonition of the future. Like if you feel something bad is going to happen you are alerted to be extra aware and careful and you could prevent some harm coming your way because of the feeling putting you on notice of danger.

There are other siddhi's like putting your thoughts into other people's minds to get them to do what you want. And others like setting things on fire with your hand chakras or levitation etc.
Thanks personal. Love your name btw.
 
Personal Growth said:
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Please list and explain the power you're talking about and what can one do with it ?

The power to be a God yourself.

When you have a strong mind and aura your thoughts and emotions will affect the outer reality much more.

That's like your mind being your own personal genie. You can usually get your way and what you want.

What I've noticed is that if I'm hating on someone they will land up in some serious accident or some tragedy will strike them so as to get them away from being a bother to me.

Also you can pick up the vibe of a persons energy if they feel dirty and disgusting or clean and healthy.

I'm sure I was able to hear people's thoughts like they were speaking but they weren't speaking I could just pick up their thoughts and know exactly where I stand with them.

Also you can get like a premonition of the future. Like if you feel something bad is going to happen you are alerted to be extra aware and careful and you could prevent some harm coming your way because of the feeling putting you on notice of danger.

There are other siddhi's like putting your thoughts into other people's minds to get them to do what you want. And others like setting things on fire with your hand chakras or levitation etc.
Thanks personal. Love your name btw.
 
Jack said:
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Please list and explain the power you're talking about and what can one do with it ?
Hes talking about spiritual power. Are you new to this forum ?
Read the entire,
Joyofsatan.org first or you won't get what we're talking about here
No, I've dedicated in 2012 or 13. I've just been in and out. Getting to it slowly but surely.
 
Personal Growth said:
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Please list and explain the power you're talking about and what can one do with it ?

The power to be a God yourself.

When you have a strong mind and aura your thoughts and emotions will affect the outer reality much more.

That's like your mind being your own personal genie. You can usually get your way and what you want.

What I've noticed is that if I'm hating on someone they will land up in some serious accident or some tragedy will strike them so as to get them away from being a bother to me.

Also you can pick up the vibe of a persons energy if they feel dirty and disgusting or clean and healthy.

I'm sure I was able to hear people's thoughts like they were speaking but they weren't speaking I could just pick up their thoughts and know exactly where I stand with them.

Also you can get like a premonition of the future. Like if you feel something bad is going to happen you are alerted to be extra aware and careful and you could prevent some harm coming your way because of the feeling putting you on notice of danger.

There are other siddhi's like putting your thoughts into other people's minds to get them to do what you want. And others like setting things on fire with your hand chakras or levitation etc.
Hey personal, how long did it take you to unlock you gifts and hear people's thoughts.
 
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Personal Growth said:
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Please list and explain the power you're talking about and what can one do with it ?

The power to be a God yourself.

When you have a strong mind and aura your thoughts and emotions will affect the outer reality much more.

That's like your mind being your own personal genie. You can usually get your way and what you want.

What I've noticed is that if I'm hating on someone they will land up in some serious accident or some tragedy will strike them so as to get them away from being a bother to me.

Also you can pick up the vibe of a persons energy if they feel dirty and disgusting or clean and healthy.

I'm sure I was able to hear people's thoughts like they were speaking but they weren't speaking I could just pick up their thoughts and know exactly where I stand with them.

Also you can get like a premonition of the future. Like if you feel something bad is going to happen you are alerted to be extra aware and careful and you could prevent some harm coming your way because of the feeling putting you on notice of danger.

There are other siddhi's like putting your thoughts into other people's minds to get them to do what you want. And others like setting things on fire with your hand chakras or levitation etc.
Hey personal, how long did it take you to unlock you gifts and hear people's thoughts.

About two months. It's not nice really what I was hearing them think.
 
Personal Growth said:
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Personal Growth said:
The power to be a God yourself.

When you have a strong mind and aura your thoughts and emotions will affect the outer reality much more.

That's like your mind being your own personal genie. You can usually get your way and what you want.

What I've noticed is that if I'm hating on someone they will land up in some serious accident or some tragedy will strike them so as to get them away from being a bother to me.

Also you can pick up the vibe of a persons energy if they feel dirty and disgusting or clean and healthy.

I'm sure I was able to hear people's thoughts like they were speaking but they weren't speaking I could just pick up their thoughts and know exactly where I stand with them.

Also you can get like a premonition of the future. Like if you feel something bad is going to happen you are alerted to be extra aware and careful and you could prevent some harm coming your way because of the feeling putting you on notice of danger.

There are other siddhi's like putting your thoughts into other people's minds to get them to do what you want. And others like setting things on fire with your hand chakras or levitation etc.
Hey personal, how long did it take you to unlock you gifts and hear people's thoughts.

About two months. It's not nice really what I was hearing them think.
Wow two month !?!?!? Awesome. Lol sorry about that :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Personal Growth said:
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Hey personal, how long did it take you to unlock you gifts and hear people's thoughts.

About two months. It's not nice really what I was hearing them think.
Wow two month !?!?!? Awesome. Lol sorry about that :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
It doesen’t mean that you’re gonna develop it too in two months. Spiritual advancement is different for everybody, and it could take you even years.
 
Personal Growth said:
In a way I'm now scared to advance and just like to do the cleaning and Final RTR.
Also my senses were heightened and I felt annoyed and angry much easier. Yes I know void meditation to have a strong and controlled mind. But increasing spiritual power was increasing my emotions and it was not fun feeling like en emotional roller coaster.
How are you doing, Personal Growth? Long time no see.
I can relate, partially. I'm working on cleaning the house a bit deeper now so to speak.
For example, many years ago I had promised myself to be in charge of certain aspects of life, because, until literally yesterday, I felt that it would be a noble thing to do. The very same aspects were causing me to worry excessively and gave me anxiety episodes, finally driving me nearly friggin nuts. I was trying to fully control the outcome of something that is nearly impossible to control. Somehow I received a nudge from beyond, started peeking inside me, recognized it as trash and undid this promise. I can't describe the feeling of inner peace that followed.
And for some reason, just like you, I was only doing the rtr, ac and aop daily. For some reason I just couldn't make myself add more to my routine. About two months ago I started with hatha and breathing excercises.
I agree with you that one should not add power if the foundation becomes unstable but how can one become smart enough to deep clean the house without evolving? One really needs to build the ability to recognize trash when sifting through ones past. OTOH, said ability can only be improved through gradual advancement. IMO it's all interconnected.
Take care, mate!
 
Jack said:
Mom: Son why are you sitting there playing video games, go brush your teeth and do something productive. You'll catch a cold...

News edgy Teen going through a phase :
WTF DID YOU SAY BITCH ??? THE STRONG SHOULD FEAR THE WEAK.
*Goes to his room,locks the door.,draws nine foot circle, starts chanting angelic magick while coughing as his breath reeks.*
I'LL SHOW MOM HOW SHE SHOULD BEHAVE WITH A FUCKING UBERMENSCH (COUGHING)
d_0vovbueaagm32.jpeg
My face just met my desk on this on :lol:
 
Apprentice said:
Personal Growth said:
In a way I'm now scared to advance and just like to do the cleaning and Final RTR.
Also my senses were heightened and I felt annoyed and angry much easier. Yes I know void meditation to have a strong and controlled mind. But increasing spiritual power was increasing my emotions and it was not fun feeling like en emotional roller coaster.
How are you doing, Personal Growth? Long time no see.
I can relate, partially. I'm working on cleaning the house a bit deeper now so to speak.
For example, many years ago I had promised myself to be in charge of certain aspects of life, because, until literally yesterday, I felt that it would be a noble thing to do. The very same aspects were causing me to worry excessively and gave me anxiety episodes, finally driving me nearly friggin nuts. I was trying to fully control the outcome of something that is nearly impossible to control. Somehow I received a nudge from beyond, started peeking inside me, recognized it as trash and undid this promise. I can't describe the feeling of inner peace that followed.
And for some reason, just like you, I was only doing the rtr, ac and aop daily. For some reason I just couldn't make myself add more to my routine. About two months ago I started with hatha and breathing excercises.
I agree with you that one should not add power if the foundation becomes unstable but how can one become smart enough to deep clean the house without evolving? One really needs to build the ability to recognize trash when sifting through ones past. OTOH, said ability can only be improved through gradual advancement. IMO it's all interconnected.
Take care, mate!

How's it Pal,

Yes we're both busy with work and making sure we get the important spiritual things done as well as the necessary physical and material. It's a juggle to look after yourself and work and carry out spiritual practice and carry out Final RTR's. Shoo, good to be busy in a good, productive and focused way.

True it's a process and cannot be rushed.

I do have traumas from my past and I feel depressed sometimes when they surface. I think that's what's been draining me lately because I've been feeling a bit tired and burnt out. I don't think it's just the hectic schedule and long work hours but a bit of depression with past scars and traumas on my soul surfacing.

I'm not sure how they are cleared. I think when they come up you need to feel the emotions and think about it to come to a resolve and let go of it. And then after logically dealing with it you remove the spiritual dross by mentally doing the aura cleaning.

And yes mate you need to be good to yourself before you can help others. If you made a commitment that was too much for you to bear of course you can change your mind and pull out of it. It's not like it was carved in stone or a legally binding contract so yea you decided you don't' want to do it anymore and that's a weight off of your shoulders.

I've been told over and over that this is the eight fold path and I need to start practicing yoga. I'm still planning on it but so busy and you know how time flies. So good on you too for taking up the practice of yoga. One day I'll go get a yoga mat and a hatha yoga book and take that up too.

I trust with your good work ethic, skill and spiritual practices your business is thriving.

It's been good catching up.

Take care and look after yourself Mate!
 
Shittu Ur said:
Jack said:
Mom: Son why are you sitting there playing video games, go brush your teeth and do something productive. You'll catch a cold...

News edgy Teen going through a phase :
WTF DID YOU SAY BITCH ??? THE STRONG SHOULD FEAR THE WEAK.
*Goes to his room,locks the door.,draws nine foot circle, starts chanting angelic magick while coughing as his breath reeks.*
I'LL SHOW MOM HOW SHE SHOULD BEHAVE WITH A FUCKING UBERMENSCH (COUGHING)
d_0vovbueaagm32.jpeg
My face just met my desk on this on :lol:

How do I post a signature like yours?
 
Aquarius said:
Lordbaphamet666 said:
Personal Growth said:
About two months. It's not nice really what I was hearing them think.
Wow two month !?!?!? Awesome. Lol sorry about that :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
It doesen’t mean that you’re gonna develop it too in two months. Spiritual advancement is different for everybody, and it could take you even years.
Aduhh!!!! I know. You don't have to rub it in. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D :D
 

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