Zevios Metathronos said:
T.A.O.L. said:
Though the families living on 1100 a month or so probably get some additional fund once a year for health insurance.. and maybe rent too. (but idk anything about the usa so how can one compare that?)
In the USA you may be having a private company doing that, which will close down, and swindle millions, in which case, you and your family, just stay on the street afterwards. The same thing goes for pensions and many other things, there are private pension firms who have been swindling people of their life's gatherings for decades.
The USA is far more open to profiteering and racketeering criminal schemes than Europe. Europe however has a lot of state issues, which do create a lot of other problems, but less compared to the US. Europe in the financial normalcy is humane to an extent. The EU is trying to curb this down and change this for years now.
I had typed an entire reply which may not have went through.
I said therein, among a few other things, that incomes are taxed, along with the food and all other things you buy basicly. Income tax goes from 1 month a year of labor to half a year of labor depending on how high your income is.
The buy things tax is 21% (used to be 19%) and I think they upped the tax on groceries too (was 6%). There is a huge tax on fuel as well. Electricity is taxed quite high as well, can be double the cost of the actual use of the electricity.
And I was wondering.. because people day that obamacare has a high monthly fee, but I was wondering how much is much. Because no one types actual numbers.
You can ask for unemployment payment here if you lose your job. But if you own a house, they want you to sell it. Since the economic crisis a few years ago, thousands of people lost their jobs since some major companies closed with financial debt.
It is not something you can really live well from either. The unemployment payment is usually a bit more than to make sure you can pay your rent, buy some food and pay the compulsory health insurance. And then you may have a bit left over to save up for something you need or to take the public transit to visit a relative or something.
The health insurance things are stripped down a lot nowadays too. They allow less and less to be covered. Medicines are also starting to be regulated through ones health insurance.
Like, more expensive pills with a certain compound which are manufactured differently than others with the same certain compound are not usually covered anymore. There have been serious notices in people that react to the change in brand with allergies in example. Makes one wonder why they are different..
And that before the health insurance system in NL there was a health fund. Which was cheaper than the compulsory health insurance. Which back then only some of the rich had and it was an optional thing..
Regarding pensions I had said that aside from what you typed.. the ones that started their own business as a result from the unemployment from the economic crisis do not have any right or contract with any pension saving people. It is those that work for a company that can get this through their boss.
But the self employed do not have anything to make up for this.
Its literally their own savings.
If you have some money saved up as an elderly person, some cities refuse to give them the 65+ discount on things like, taking a tour through the city, the entrance fees to things like the zoo or something..
That would ensure that the next generation would have less to inherit too, I think.
Also savings are taxed here but I mentioned that in the past too. I have like 0 knowledge on other countries in the EU though. I just think that we have way too many taxes here (in short).