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Not happy with the zeus thing

AvatarAshmadeva1 min to read

This isn't right what you guys did to the original website. Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus. Zeus is more attributed to jupier / indra. The gods of heaven. Satan was more attributed to saturn / venus. This is really gonna throw off newcomers. This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form. Dont bring zeus into this why would you? This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.

#20

Its not really about Zeus, its about the archetypal family. Focusing on one God makes us no better than the monotheists, squabbling over nothing. The family is the spirit of mankind. The Olympian Gods are the family unit. Each one of them allows us to empathize with all of humanity. Each one of us has our own God at our own time during any stage of our life. Right now my God is Vishnu. I am his avatar on Earth. One day when I have a family, I will be the avatar of Zeus. When I was in my teens it was Horus. Whether we know it or not the Gods always live through us. We have to reclaim the lens through which they do.

#21

HP has explained everything. All you have to do is read books about Zeus and do some research. HP has never lied before, so why don’t you just read his answers? We couldn’t explain it better than him—and beyond that, you should read about Greek mythology.

#22

Satan is related to Saturn.

No, he isn't. That misinfo comes from xians and people like David Icke. The JoS site stated that his planets are Uranus and Venus:

And why didn’t HPS Pythia tell us about Zeus being Satan these new entites?

Everything from the Gods comes in stages. The time wasn't right for that yet.

#23

And how exactly do you know He didn't tell Her? Do you think all conversations that Lady Pythia had with the Gods are public knowledge?

Last update: 05/07/2025 (all links updated, except the useful reads)

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Heil Zeus!
Heil Apollo!
Satanama!

#24

boo hoo, the child doesn’t like the food 😂

#25

This isn't right what you guys did to the original website. Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus. Zeus is more attributed to jupier / indra. The gods of heaven. Satan was more attributed to saturn / venus. This is really gonna throw off newcomers. This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form. Dont bring zeus into this why would you? This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.

Thus the truth this Zeus things is not satanism and we are not interested with Zeus things.... Stop Zeus things please

#26

Thus the truth this Zeus things is not satanism and we are not interested with Zeus things.... Stop Zeus things please

Yes, it is the truth. This was explained by HPZM; please seek out his sermons on the matter.

Beyond Zeus, many Gods have multiple named identities, or a depth of personality much larger than we currently comprehend. This fact alters our conclusion significantly.

It would be more wise to listen to the Clergy more on this matter, therefore, rather than the simplistic classification or evaluation methods used here.

#27

Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group. I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus. Its better to create two categories those who believe in God of yours, Zeus and us who believe in Satan. Now we have two different ways. This cause a great tension so please try by all the means to fix the problem. As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all

You fundamenetally don't understand what we're about at all. Why is it always the "I've be here for 10 years" types who seem to be completly ignorant of what the JOS/TOZ says? I've only been here for a year and it didn't take me long to understand fully and catch up with our current knowledge, since I not only read the website but asked questions and talked to senior members, as well as through providence came to the correct conclusions on religion.

Have you actually read the TOZ and its claims?

Have you actually spoken to the Guardians and Clergy about these matters, in detail?

Have you bothered to research who Satan actually is, why He is called Satan in the first place by our enemies, and where the name Satan comes from?

Have you bothered to research the history of occultism, where it came from, what the earliest system of magick is, where the words and terms "devil" and "demons" came from, in what context they were used?

Are you aware of the philosophy behind magick itself, how it works, what the Gods are, and all these things?

It's astonishing. It seems like you have a language barrier though, since it appears english isn't your first language by the way you type. You're just being willfully ignorant at this point and acting no better than a xian who shuts their ears.

#28

But also, it shouldn't have taken 20 years for the name shift. It should have happened much sooner imo. TOZ was called the JOS for a very long time, so I understand why the sudden shift in names shocked a lot of people.

#29

Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group. I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus. Its better to create two categories those who believe in God of yours, Zeus and us who believe in Satan. Now we have two different ways. This cause a great tension so please try by all the means to fix the problem. As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all

I think it is very important to try to understand other people and what they are trying to say before jumping to conclusions as extreme as you have done. I already replied to your topic earlier that there is a mass of new material, and you clearly need to educate yourself.

Again, Zeus is Satan. Satan is also known as MANY other names during different times and ages.

#30

Satan was the central name of our Head God for over 20 years , and now it's just another minor name put in the list of our names for Zeus with the caveat that it is an enemy label. The shift caused shock, as we've seen in the past couple months. It's like living in a house for 20 years and then suddenly in a day the whole family is sent somehwere else, even if it's a better house. There was always going to be strong reactions, especially from those who strongly cling to the Satanic identity as defence mechanism against xianity. This is all the past now, I'm glad though that most understood clearly our Pagan heritage and what the JOS/TOZ was always about. It's about Godhood, not "devil worship".

#31

Oh hell naw muh feelings zeus isn't satan asdfaf

Grow up

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#32

Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group. I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus. Its better to create two categories those who believe in God of yours, Zeus and us who believe in Satan. Now we have two different ways. This cause a great tension so please try by all the means to fix the problem. As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all

Another one from 2010. Why is it always them that come complaining with 1 week old accounts? Lol

I am reaching towards a green apple.

#34

Why is it so hard to understand that Zeus (Perun in Slavic - my people) is another name for Satan?

Even of Satan weren't Zeus, I'm pretty sure nobody here who read and knew what the JoS teaches would have a major problem with it because Zeus would still be a God on our side. I wouldn't even mind if it was changed to "Temple of Thoth" or "Temple of Athena" because both were ancient Gods on our side. The only reason one would react this way (like "I don't know Zeus and I don't want to know him at all") would be if one is a Christian "Satanist". He even used the term "devil worshipper", so there you have it.

#35

Defination

Zeus is not Satan please.
Satan is the prince of demons and adversary of judio. Satan is traditionally understood as an angel who rebelled against judio god and was moved out of heaven with other “fallen” angels before the creation of humankind.
Zeus is the god of the sky in ancient Greek mythology. As the chief Greek deity, Zeus is considered the ruler, protector, and father of gods and humans.

Zeus is the King of the gods, the most high god and father of gods and man. Though not perfect he is ultimately just. The OT genocidal Yahweh is far more a “Satan” than Zeus ever was.

Well, you are mistaken here, and you refuse to go through the material that has been presented to you as a resource to reflect on indicates that either you lack the mental capacity to consider that things do evolve, or that you are dishonest in your inquiry. Either way, there will not be any elections as ToZ is not a democracy, and these updates have occurred many months ago, with everyone (except select few for no good reason) welcomed wholeheartedly. I mean, just open the Grand Ritual of Zeus to see for yourself, if you are honest here.

#36

Check my signature - let it give you some food for thought.

If not, I guess there is nothing for you.

00) "dubito, ergo cogito" - Rene Descartes. Doubt, but think. And do research
0) If you seek validation of your delusions - you won't find it here.
1) "I believe that XYZ." - Irrelevant. Study https://templeofzeus.org/ and KNOW. Slaves believe - they don't know.
2) 'xianity', not 'xtianity' - 'christ' = x, not 'chris', AND "Gods", not "God's", "chakras" not "chakra's" if plural.
3) If someone appears to be new, it doesn't mean they have no agenda. Slander veiled as an 'innocent' question, or 'just my opinion' is still slander.
4) Look how beautiful and logical the bible / quran is!
5) Trolls think they can't be exposed - those idiots expose themselves. Another name of Zeus is Satya - Truth

6) serpentwalker666's post from 22.02.25: "People be like... "We want Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Ancient Babylon again" / *Joy of Satanas becomes the Temple of Zeus and starts to expand and take on the endeavor of the ancient restoration of the full spectrum of knowledge and divine culture of the gods* / People be like: "Wait what are you doing?" / Us: "Isn't this what the goal was all along?""
-ask yourself: if you find the above weird, doesn't it mean you have got stuck too much in the cults of yehubor?

#37

Check my signature - let it give you some food for thought.

If not, I guess there is nothing for you.

The funny thing is the post quoted in your signature is about people who want Ancient Paganism but disagree with the name ToZ.

That Sam person doesn't even want Ancient Paganism, he still believes in the fallen angel crap.:ROFLMAO: And demands elections on top of it!:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

#38

I have to say, these threads often turn into cesspools of circlejerking and making fun of people instead of giving actual resources on how to understand the changes and what led to them. Directing people to the appropriate Sermons instead of being inconsiderate and fishing for reactions (however humorous it may be) should be a standard. Forum members should not be here to make fun of others but to promote collective advancement; Guardian Blitzkreig's behavior is exemplary in situations like this, do well to learn from him. I will make a post regarding this soon (a collection of Sermons and FAQ on the changes and explanations etc.) once I finish my Sermon categorization. We are all human but please do not get lost in "fun" or peer pressure, the only pressure we should feel in this case is adherence to our Ethics. We all make mistakes; look forward to improve and help others instead of drowning in guilt.

For Returning Members

"We want to be part of this Golden Age transition and herald it as its bringers, and I officially declare, that anything that represents the enemy context will progressively disappear.
We must refuse to dwell on anything that has its roots in the interpolations of the enemy. " - High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Temple of Zeus Announcement and Q&A by High Priest Zevios Metathronos (Explaining the changes, etc.):
Temple Of Zeus Is Now Live
Official Live AMA Video from ToZ
Answering Concerns About ToZ [The Other Side Of It]
Climb To The Gods: We Won't Dumb It Down

#39

Defination

Zeus is not Satan please.
Satan is the prince of demons and adversary of judio. Satan is traditionally understood as an angel who rebelled against judio god and was moved out of heaven with other “fallen” angels before the creation of humankind.
Zeus is the god of the sky in ancient Greek mythology. As the chief Greek deity, Zeus is considered the ruler, protector, and father of gods and humans.

Zeus is the King of the gods, the most high god and father of gods and man. Though not perfect he is ultimately just. The OT genocidal Yahweh is far more a “Satan” than Zeus ever was.

High Priestess Pythia, Our Founder has written since 2002, that our Demons are the pre-xian Pagan Gods, predating xianity by thousands of years.

She understood and discovered since the earliest beginnings of our Temple that the Demons are prominent Egyptian Gods and Gods from other Pantheons.

With further research over the past decades, we definitely know the many names of The True God, our Head God Zeus, Amon, who was also called Satan in the past few thousand years.

We, thanks to High Priest Zevios's continued work and research, and the contributions of our hard working TG's and members to actualize this, have fulfilled High Priestess Pythia's original aim from the first day of our Temples conception, to restore the Ancient pre-xian Pagan Gods to their original stature and Thrones, restoring Their names for the whole world to see and know Them once more, as per the original promise and conception of our Temple by our Founder, Lady Pythia.

The Gods, and our founder smile upon us for the great work achieved, for finally people can know the real Truth as it has always been since time immemorial, fully restoring the Ancient knowledge our Great Ancestors have always known.

We exist as we have always been. Enemy context on any of our knowledge has always been irrelevant. They are nothing in front of the Gods and even us.

Hail Zeus Forever!
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