NECRONOMICON Apocalypse

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

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This is the main counterpoint to your claims of the meditations being a hoax:

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You don't think anyone would have experienced something horrific if they were using sigils of something other than demons?
Besides HPS Pythia, many have tried these meditations. If JoS was unknowingly connecting to harmful entities for 15-20 years now, don't you think Satan would have said something?

As far as the "mark of the beast" or other writings like this, we know that any books on spirituality had to appear Christian otherwise they would be destroyed. You are assuming the author would have written "Contact Satan here!" for everyone to see?

From what I see of this original conversation, sshivafr had contact with what appears most likely as a demon, given the high energy and positive outcome. Furthermore, they have been closely relaying this information to Satan. There is little cause for alarm here.

The above is the exact opposite of what an interaction with a harmful entity would be like. Why you would think this is similar to something sucking energy from the chakras is beyond me.

As someone who was there when the Necronomicon meditations were originally posted, I remember they were a part of a study/experiment. HP Pythia first posted the Necronomicon Throat Chakra meditation and asked people to try it and report their experiences into that group, because she didn't know what effects it had in different people:

http://groups-archive.org/viewtopic.php?p=258394

She stated that she's doing a study and she wants people to participate in it in another post:

http://groups-archive.org/viewtopic.php?p=258401

She then posted the other ones later when the astrological alignment was favorable so that people would try them and report their experiences. After everyone reported their experiences, she then added them to the JoS site a few months later.

So the Necronomicon meditations are actually the most tested of all meditations on JoS, as many people tried them and reported their experiences.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

I've used them, probably only about 5 of them but I've been meaning to try more, as they are definitely effective. The one for strengthening the solar chakra really helped me out years ago.

 

[Henu the Great]

Same as above, but with 6th chakra.

 

[Lykos]

The fact that Seals and Gates needs an appropriate ritual and defensive magic also add another level of danger , expressed in meditations based on a Hoax , more than let them become useless for the practitioner .

Fake Gates and fake Seals, they need a fake ritual and fake defensive magic to ward off a false danger, I suppose.

 

[luis]

Zevios said he asked the Gods and they said the meditations and sigils are very real. You can easily find this post.

 

[Shemsu]

The fact that Seals and Gates needs an appropriate ritual and defensive magic also add another level of danger , expressed in meditations based on a Hoax , more than let them become useless for the practitioner .

Fake Gates and fake Seals, they need a fake ritual and fake defensive magic to ward off a false danger, I suppose.

Yes they are useless , at least for what they are meant to do.
I was referring to the Seals and Gates found in the Simon Necronomicon, which claim to be an "honest" version of a text that finds it difficult to be real. I would not trust neither that version, because they never showed up the original manuscript even when asked by many occultists.

But in every ritual where names of deities' whether "good" or "malignant" are used the practitioner is required to undergo an initiation that leads to understanding what is being done by playing with the unconscious forces of the mind, so as not to open precisely "doors" that can be easily accessed by nonhuman beings who crave mortal bodies to actualize their projections .

Here Simon's version is far more articulate, describing, for example, how to create magic circles, amulets with names of protective deities, exorcisms, and contact with "Watchers" entities to avert misfortune during doorway meditation.

Obviously, this only referred to the Necronomicon in this case .

Hey Frank, you seem to be well informed on this subject. I did my own research on the Necronomicon after reading the "Book of Dead Names" from Simon who I believe is Peter Lavenda because everything points to him. It is an intriguing read despite the obvious lack of authenticity of all Necronomicon versions. However I strongly believe that they are based on a real book or books that were probably destroyed long ago, passed down as oral tradition and that's where this trend originates. The text is made up by many authors in recent history but some of the strongholds and seals are very much real even if slightly modified thus rendering them less potent than the original ones. Which mysteries passed down the knowledge is not clear. It's a risky business and not to be taken lightly but I would like to get to the bottom of this. We know next to nothing about Sumerian magic, that much is evident. If you have some information to go on, it would be appreciated.
As for the meditations I haven't tried any so I can't say anything except that if they were tried by a number of people without backfiring than they should be safe. Can you suggest a direction because all I have so far are dead ends?

 

[Henu the Great]

But in every ritual where names of deities' whether "good" or "malignant" are used the practitioner is required to undergo an initiation that leads to understanding what is being done by playing with the unconscious forces of the mind, so as not to open precisely "doors" that can be easily accessed by nonhuman beings who crave mortal bodies to actualize their projections

Being attacked by hostile entities becomes less of an issue when the practitioner takes care of their spiritual status with practices such as cleaning and creating an aura of protection. Then there are methods for removing influences of entities. And most importantly, Gods guide and help us, but also protect us from effects we cannot ward off by ourselves.

 

[NeonBlue]

Yeah yeah some guy called frankie says the meditations are fake well what next are we gonna hear how the runes futhark page is also false. Shit that guy should take his own advice about shutting up if his IQ is below 60 and he probably does drugs too.

What would we all do without you frankie... one days we will find a way but in the meantime thank you for your wisdom.

Best way to know if it works is to give it a solid try and keep on.

I bet its some guy thats gonna push his brand new paperback on us. I think its called "Why Im so great and your all so useless" authored by FW. He knows its only gonna end up somewhere on the toilet floor.

IN THE END PEOPLE THAT ARE FAULT FINDERS WHEREVER THEY LOOK ARE GONNA PRETEND TO KNOW BETTER.

This isnt a guy who'd read a single one of those books he posted links to. It would have helped him greatly if he'd actually read the the page about it on the JoS.

The fact that Seals and Gates needs an appropriate ritual and defensive magic also add another level of danger , expressed in meditations based on a Hoax , more than let them become useless for the practitioner .

Fake Gates and fake Seals, they need a fake ritual and fake defensive magic to ward off a false danger, I suppose.

 

[SShiva_fr]

I see that he did not deign to answer.

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How do you want HP Zevios Metathronos to understand your hints without linking the messages? You think he reads everything that is said in the forums?!

Go to the end since it seems that you care.

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I barely doubt that this criticism of mine will be accepted or understood. So for the time being I will return to my cave, waiting for propitious times.

That's because it's nothing in it except of maybe a "I come out of the cave to write a long message with nothing clearly expressed in it, just because I am a doubter, and then I will go back to the cave, to just feel like a doubter. I think that's a great philosophy, ps, you suck, because of reasons I haven't even clarified to myself".

Try to clarify, and see if you are making any sense.

So I'll do it. Because his insulting ways and the doubt he pushes here make me angry. He disguises it as knowledge.

Selected excerpts:
From this thread : https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=79979

Post Scriptum:

This show how stupid is to do certain "watered down" meditation as expressed postulated in this forum without READING and UNDERSTANDING the Necronomicon text!

FYI, is also written:

"... and by their odor, which comes of burning incenses unlawful to the worship the heaving earth and the ripping sky and the rampant flame and the flooding waters; and they are the raisers of the legions of maskim, the LIERS-IN-WAIT.
And they do not know what it is they do , but they do it at the demands of the Serpent, at whose Name even (NAME of a GOD) gives fright and the dread KUTULU strains at his bonds..."

This is the post where he admits he's not a Satanist, in reply to someone who asked him if he has done the Dedication ritual on JoS:

I already did in the past a blood dedication to MahaDeva and MahaDevi (The real names of SHIVA and PARVATI , but you can call them as you wish if you know the Troth) where I followed a tantric ritual involving cutting a piece of my finger and letting it bleeding for 3 hours in front of the Gods. Likewise, I cannot explain it further, neither suggest others to do it , because it came spontaneously with DEVOTION, which is the first golden rule of the Path.

Note there's nothing wrong for non-Satanists to be here and participate. But this person is trying to push his delusional ideas as if he knows better than the Gods and the clergy.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You just a bunch of fundamentalists idiots.

First of all, Al-Azif (the title of the Necronomicon) was written by Abdul Alhazred , a semitic magician.
So yes, he was living near the Palestine and the mark of the beast was used by arabs and semitics as well as more than 2000 years.

Secondly , a manuscript from John Dee never arrived to us , and never existed. Just he never translated the text.
The one promoted on the JoS website, is well known to be a super-fake edition and also seals are WRONG.

Lovecraft himself declare openly about that :

https://www.hplovecraft.com/creation/necron/letters.aspx

BUT, even if now I don't want to share here between you ,obnoxious little chihuahuas , there is a manuscript called with the same name, which resemble a Greek edition of the text, and with all correct Doors and seals of MARDUK inside.
Has been found in correspondences between some embassies in the Balkans during the '70.

About who asked here frightened and scared.

I Hope they will come back to You sucking more energy from Your chakras , as this is the right punishments for fools that try to open gates with the underworld .

You screamed this time, next time for sure I will not help you. Good luck.

BOOM. So easy to debunk, so easy to be destroyed. Very bad.

And now how do You feel after believing into a LIE?

Would have better, at that point, informing before and then creating a new one saying Maxime or whoever received it directly by Satan?

Let's put it this way... Wouldn't be better like to say this book is part of an Akashic records, that travel beyond time and space and You received it from Satan indeed than to write a LIE on the JoS website?

Wouldn't be better to be honest with the public and the follower?

And again, he feels compelled to denigrate the community. It is unbearable

Disclaimer:

If you are abusing with drugs, You have an average IQ of 60 and You cannot inform Yourself, please avoid comment below as can be useful for whoever want to search for the true regarding the original text of the Necronomicon .

 

[NeonBlue]

so which one is true necronomicon? if any actual exist

Wtf are you asking me for???? Your troll buddy frankie got all the answers in the world apparently! Just maby your troll buddy frankie will bless us with his great wisdom :roll:

Just reading your posts here one can tell you have fuuuuuuuuck aallll interest in real knowledge and hardly know what your typing about. You likely read a book called "how to sound smart even when your shit dumb" and when doing so you held the book backwards.

I know there are posts on this forum about the NECRONOMICON MEDITATIONS would anyone care to share them? (Frankie and ... goblock raise there hands...) *AHEM* anyone else?

 

[NeonBlue]

so which one is true necronomicon? if any actual exist

Wtf are you asking me for???? Your troll buddy frankie got all the answers in the world apparently! Just maby your troll buddy frankie will bless us with his great wisdom :roll:

Just reading your posts here one can tell you have fuuuuuuuuck aallll interest in real knowledge and hardly know what your typing about. You likely read a book called "how to sound smart even when your shit dumb" and when doing so you held the book backwards.

I know there are posts on this forum about the NECRONOMICON MEDITATIONS would anyone care to share them? (Frankie and ... goblock raise there hands...) *AHEM* anyone else?

Can't You read the disclaimer ?? :x

They should create JoS-Mini where placing all the mentally challenged like you.

Go back fapping yourself in front of a mirror , it will avoid people scrolling down nervously to search for an answer in topic.

Still dont think your book will sell. Hey!! Maby you can quickly put up JoS Demon sigils in your foot note like your one pal "hey frankie you are soooo great". Now I can tell you hardly bothered to read half that stuff you left links to if you even bothered at all.

I get the idea you can get long winded so maby your buddies can help you troll abit more. Or perhaps you will be our new HP and share your kthulu teachings since we are all clearly on the kthulu forms. It wont help to explain to you that JoS is not kthulu because you are doing this on purpose and nobody asked you in the first place.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

Regarding this, what matters is not what I spiritual and godless historians write about this, but that the sigils and workings are legitimate, of verifiable value to an Zevism practitioner.

There is more to spiritual knowledge than reading the words written by the godless scholar, or educated fool.

When one is initiated on the spiritual path, one can innately feel whether something is legitimate or nonsense, as can the nonsense be picked out from the truth.

Regarding the Necronomicon meditations and sigils we share on the JoS as being safe and beneficial meditations for an Zevism, it is verified by the most advanced and experienced members who practice Zevism that these are not only fine but can also be beneficial.

All the rest what you write, for a practitioner of Spiritual Satanism, it comes down to little more than semantics.

Your claim to any hoax lies in the worthless writings of random people with no qualifications on the practice of the occult.

Therefore, it can only be dismissed.


As for the seals, as with any sigil, these are to be practiced through visualization. The power of which is driven by the soul and manifested through the application of consciousness in the art of visualization combined with mantra.

It is perfectly incorporated within the 8 fold path.

The fact these are distributed digitally diminishes nothing, as these are practiced internally with ones own power of realization and manifestation.

Your critique about this alone shows how lacking your understanding of any true spirituality really is, and are absolutely unqualified to make judgement on this.

Don't remain the educated fool, but open yourself up to wisdom if you truly care to seek personal growth and advancement of the soul to higher existence.

Hail Satan!

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

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oohh glad you posted here, While drumming for your Chihuahuas.

Knowledge is scary, I know, I understand that.

That doesn't give you the right to insult me or saying "vey vey"... since a fake text is given as true on the JoS site, which the real debunkers have already dug into and the result was ridiculous to the whole community.

Maybe do a minimum of research on sources, before?

At least looking for any errors to improve ?

Or is there more to it?

You won't be afraid of an old wizard coming here to write two posts I hope.... :lol:

Because the impression from the outside is just that

There is no fundamental answer to the points provided by the replies that were serious, you have not mentioned much of anything about after people have told you the plain facts on arriving to certain conclusions on experimentations.

I have every right to reply in any manner possible when I and the JoS are repeatedly spoken to in a demeaning manner, which is for all that is, also inaccurate and purposefully wrong.

We have done far more research than you in that regard, and therefore, we have took the approach we did on the Al Azif. You have not done anything except of write about "sources", which everyone can find, and see the very same dispute, that we ourselves have seen over the book.

HPS Pythia herself has expressed her doubts, and therefore, she brought this out for testing. The disputed origins have been conversed about. People then shared experiences, and she decided accordingly.

You are starting off from a negative and wrong line of thinking which presupposes that "members didn't know" or that there was anything deliberate here, so you made a falsified argument to cast doubts for no reason.

People have asked many times about this and we have related our opinion both about the "questionable" sources, but also about the function, which hundreds of members have reported to have been working etc.

Regardless, keep it coming, I have no problem personally, except when it comes to purposeful negativity, which will be answered likewise.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

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Firstly, it was ME that tried to use Your Rituals on a top of a Volcano in my blue flames to send the enemy a huge attack connected to Earth power lines. Yes I am a tester, I develop and i trash immediately what doesn't work or is founded on lies.
This is part of my procedure on how to apply pragmatism to any sort of occultism.

I like JoS, I am the apparently chaotic force that tries to place the basics for improvement through necessary criticism.
As a sword can be modeled many times till reaching perfection, don't take everything personal in criticism , screaming out each time like a group of chatbots. Try to develop some logic and sharp attitude and if something is wrong, fake or based on a LIE must be changed, build up again on more concrete basics , fundamentals and of course mutual knowledge. There is nothing bad with that.

The problem is not in your criticism. I answered you for that reason, in this and other threads.

It's in the subject that you always forcibly try to pass down an argument that starts from a negative and deceitful point; ie, falsehood that JoS promoted this without reading about it, or that nobody asked of this [oh my, what a great discovery] and then when others post to you HPS Pythia literal actions which prove the genuineness of it all, you just brush it off saying that you was an asshole instead of essentially admitting falsehood of criticism and intention, and then maybe going back to being the same chaotic force, for no real reason.

 

[NeonBlue]

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schizo rant lol :ugeek:

i didnt ask u lol, i dont pretend to sound smart maybe opposite hehe i just wanna know true necronomicon but guess i stick with simon

Go for it troll just do whatever it is under your bridge with your boss frankie and you can stay there. :!:

 

[Shemsu]

Firstly I have to say how sad this whole bickering and drama are. I don't care why this supposed shivaist guy attacked everyone, it was unwarranted. Then some fell for it, got all defensive/offensive and it all spiraled out. So thanx for ruining a nice topic. I really wanted to know if anyone had some more info on this and maybe we could have a constructive conversation about further refining the available data so that there is benefit to those that are serious about it. For example, the black headed people had a highly advanced understanding of astronomical and mathematical matters from a spiritual perspective (more than they're given credit) so maybe if we can verify some of the formulas like names, planetary associations and parts of the instructions I suspect were modified with their deepest origin, we can correct them to get to a more potent work that could have implications beyond its chakra empowering aspect. I feel this is important and have been encouraged by our Great Father to continue my research. As we don't have access to all the findings and can't read cuneiform (can anyone here do that?) we have to rely on sources that aren't always to be trusted. Because of that it is, in my humble opinion, wiser to turn straight to the source and inspiration of those writings and just ask. When I get to know more I will gladly share in a new unpolluted topic about this and if someone wants to help please let me know.

 

[NeonBlue]

Firstly I have to say how sad this whole bickering and drama are. I don't care why this supposed shivaist guy attacked everyone, it was unwarranted. Then some fell for it, got all defensive/offensive and it all spiraled out. So thanx for ruining a nice topic. I really wanted to know if anyone had some more info on this and maybe we could have a constructive conversation about further refining the available data so that there is benefit to those that are serious about it. For example, the black headed people had a highly advanced understanding of astronomical and mathematical matters from a spiritual perspective (more than they're given credit) so maybe if we can verify some of the formulas like names, planetary associations and parts of the instructions I suspect were modified with their deepest origin, we can correct them to get to a more potent work that could have implications beyond its chakra empowering aspect. I feel this is important and have been encouraged by our Great Father to continue my research. As we don't have access to all the findings and can't read cuneiform (can anyone here do that?) we have to rely on sources that aren't always to be trusted. Because of that it is, in my humble opinion, wiser to turn straight to the source and inspiration of those writings and just ask. When I get to know more I will gladly share in a new unpolluted topic about this and if someone wants to help please let me know.

Yes because the whole JoS is about your piss poor attempt at politics while you push stuff leading directly to kthulu you shitty crook. Obviously if your "Great father" felt it was important he would have had the JoS HPs, JoS guardians and those that have been under his direct guidance and protection for decades doing it. Since I cant read cuniform I should just trust you because you typed "our great father" from god knows where on Earth? You could well be wearing a kippa and reading the torah while you ship us some bullshit! You stupid? Please check the forum name, its not kthulu dot whatever this the forum for templeofzeus.org

:arrow: Your ass kissing opinion is to brown nose by sounding pious while pushing kthulu as that is exactly where this is going.

Why dont you and the OP F-off and make paper jets out of your fake ass research and chuck them directly into the bin. Next you can climb into the bin too as you are trash pushing that the shabby and fake OP which somehow is supposed to be credible (THE FAKE OP WHICH WILL EDIT THERE POSTS AFTER YOU HAVE BROWN NOSED ENOUGH AND PRETEND THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS UNREASONABLE).

Thank you in advance for your understanding sir brown noser. Now kindly gather your crew and fuck off.

 

[BlueLake666]

Firstly I have to say how sad this whole bickering and drama are. I don't care why this supposed shivaist guy attacked everyone, it was unwarranted. Then some fell for it, got all defensive/offensive and it all spiraled out. So thanx for ruining a nice topic. I really wanted to know if anyone had some more info on this and maybe we could have a constructive conversation about further refining the available data so that there is benefit to those that are serious about it. For example, the black headed people had a highly advanced understanding of astronomical and mathematical matters from a spiritual perspective (more than they're given credit) so maybe if we can verify some of the formulas like names, planetary associations and parts of the instructions I suspect were modified with their deepest origin, we can correct them to get to a more potent work that could have implications beyond its chakra empowering aspect. I feel this is important and have been encouraged by our Great Father to continue my research. As we don't have access to all the findings and can't read cuneiform (can anyone here do that?) we have to rely on sources that aren't always to be trusted. Because of that it is, in my humble opinion, wiser to turn straight to the source and inspiration of those writings and just ask. When I get to know more I will gladly share in a new unpolluted topic about this and if someone wants to help please let me know.

Yes because the whole JoS is about your piss poor attempt at politics while you push stuff leading directly to kthulu you shitty crook. Obviously if your "Great father" felt it was important he would have had the JoS HPs, JoS guardians and those that have been under his direct guidance and protection for decades doing it. Since I cant read cuniform I should just trust you because you typed "our great father" from god knows where on Earth? You could well be wearing a kippa and reading the torah while you ship us some bullshit! You stupid? Please check the forum name, its not kthulu dot whatever this the forum for templeofzeus.org

:arrow: Your ass kissing opinion is to brown nose by sounding pious while pushing kthulu as that is exactly where this is going.

Why dont you and the OP F-off and make paper jets out of your fake ass research and chuck them directly into the bin. Next you can climb into the bin too as you are trash pushing that the shabby and fake OP which somehow is supposed to be credible (THE FAKE OP WHICH WILL EDIT THERE POSTS AFTER YOU HAVE BROWN NOSED ENOUGH AND PRETEND THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS UNREASONABLE).

Thank you in advance for your understanding sir brown noser. Now kindly gather your crew and fuck off.

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No one should ever symphatize with trolls or troll supporters.

I think I jave just wasted myself a lot of time.by reading the Frank troll posts and even replying to them, as the individual will not understand, willingly won't understand a single thing that I write here.

Looks like it is end of payment cycle for the trolls like Frank or Shemsu which are paid by either the exposing JoS vicar, or the Antifa trolls.

After all, if they want to grovel in dissociatice assumptive disorder (yeah, I invented that) they can safely do it and fuck off. :twisted:

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

gET YoUr FAcTs RighT!!

Just don't write BULLSHITS, that's pretty easy to understand even for a mongoloid like you :lol: :lol: :lol:

Should take your own advice.

 

[NeonBlue]

Firstly I have to say how sad this whole bickering and drama are. I don't care why this supposed shivaist guy attacked everyone, it was unwarranted. Then some fell for it, got all defensive/offensive and it all spiraled out. So thanx for ruining a nice topic. I really wanted to know if anyone had some more info on this and maybe we could have a constructive conversation about further refining the available data so that there is benefit to those that are serious about it. For example, the black headed people had a highly advanced understanding of astronomical and mathematical matters from a spiritual perspective (more than they're given credit) so maybe if we can verify some of the formulas like names, planetary associations and parts of the instructions I suspect were modified with their deepest origin, we can correct them to get to a more potent work that could have implications beyond its chakra empowering aspect. I feel this is important and have been encouraged by our Great Father to continue my research. As we don't have access to all the findings and can't read cuneiform (can anyone here do that?) we have to rely on sources that aren't always to be trusted. Because of that it is, in my humble opinion, wiser to turn straight to the source and inspiration of those writings and just ask. When I get to know more I will gladly share in a new unpolluted topic about this and if someone wants to help please let me know.

Yes because the whole JoS is about your piss poor attempt at politics while you push stuff leading directly to kthulu you shitty crook. Obviously if your "Great father" felt it was important he would have had the JoS HPs, JoS guardians and those that have been under his direct guidance and protection for decades doing it. Since I cant read cuniform I should just trust you because you typed "our great father" from god knows where on Earth? You could well be wearing a kippa and reading the torah while you ship us some bullshit! You stupid? Please check the forum name, its not kthulu dot whatever this the forum for templeofzeus.org

:arrow: Your ass kissing opinion is to brown nose by sounding pious while pushing kthulu as that is exactly where this is going.

Why dont you and the OP F-off and make paper jets out of your fake ass research and chuck them directly into the bin. Next you can climb into the bin too as you are trash pushing that the shabby and fake OP which somehow is supposed to be credible (THE FAKE OP WHICH WILL EDIT THERE POSTS AFTER YOU HAVE BROWN NOSED ENOUGH AND PRETEND THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS UNREASONABLE).

Thank you in advance for your understanding sir brown noser. Now kindly gather your crew and fuck off.

+1

No one should ever symphatize with trolls or troll supporters.

I think I jave just wasted myself a lot of time.by reading the Frank troll posts and even replying to them, as the individual will not understand, willingly won't understand a single thing that I write here.

Looks like it is end of payment cycle for the trolls like Frank or Shemsu which are paid by either the exposing JoS vicar, or the Antifa trolls.

After all, if they want to grovel in dissociatice assumptive disorder (yeah, I invented that) they can safely do it and fuck off. :twisted:

I get the idea they get off on stupidity on an all new level.