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Masturbation Question

AvatarCrossRoadsPedestrian2 min to read

Sorry this will be a little graphic due to the nature of the subject.

So I've been experimenting with my sexuality (a fancy way of saying that I'm trying new things while masturbating) and I gravitated toward this technique where I masturbate as far as I can go until the point just before climax/ejaculation. After, I give myself a few seconds to cool down a little, and do it again until I feel like I'm done with my session. The entire time I consciously try NOT to ejaculate, but if I happen reach the point of no return and I end up ejaculating, then I just accept it and let it go with no regrets.

I sort of gravitated towards this way of masturbating because I always felt very tired after I ejaculated, even a little bit going into the next day. Obviously the body has to create new sexual fluids to replace the stuff that just left the building.

However, when I stop myself just before a full orgasm/ejaculation as described above, I don't get the same after effects as normal ejaculation. I don't feel sluggish or tired and in fact feel somewhat energetic.

Of course no porn the entire time, I use my imagination

My questions are
What effect does this have on my body and the energy in my body?
Is this technique not recommended by anyone here?
Can it be dangerous to my energy or body or my sexual organs?

Thanks in advance for your guidance. And to the haters who find this vile I'm sorry but this is for my health and I'm trying to learn whats best for me

#20
Henu the Greatsaid:
Jacksaid:

This can be done by Mastering Yoga Nidra aka Trance sleep. Just one hour of deep Trance sleep recharges the Body after a whole day of strenuous work .

So when I was "power napping" I did this... Quite interesting. Only five to ten minutes of it will push the worst fatigue away and one is ready for more activities.

One hour of that state would be a great way to rejuvenate, I suppose.

Oh ok. What is “trance sleep”? You mean going into a deep trance without falling asleep?

#21
Academic Scholarsaid:
Henu the Greatsaid:
Jacksaid:

This can be done by Mastering Yoga Nidra aka Trance sleep. Just one hour of deep Trance sleep recharges the Body after a whole day of strenuous work .

So when I was "power napping" I did this... Quite interesting. Only five to ten minutes of it will push the worst fatigue away and one is ready for more activities.

One hour of that state would be a great way to rejuvenate, I suppose.

Oh ok. What is “trance sleep”? You mean going into a deep trance without falling asleep?

For me it was the state between waking and sleeping. Aware of sounds, and visions at best, nothing else. Not sure if this qualifies as what Jack mentioned, but it was very refreshing.

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#22
Henu the Greatsaid:
Academic Scholarsaid:
Henu the Greatsaid:

So when I was "power napping" I did this... Quite interesting. Only five to ten minutes of it will push the worst fatigue away and one is ready for more activities.

One hour of that state would be a great way to rejuvenate, I suppose.

Oh ok. What is “trance sleep”? You mean going into a deep trance without falling asleep?

For me it was the state between waking and sleeping. Aware of sounds, and visions at best, nothing else. Not sure if this qualifies as what Jack mentioned, but it was very refreshing.

It's called meditation. With only 20 minutes you can equate to a couple of hours sleep. Depends on the individual and advancement.

No workings needed. Just meditation. Meditating is a natural required state of the human body, a neccesity. Some normal people sleep mid day to do this. We are different, as in spiritually aware.


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#23
Academic Scholarsaid:
Henu the Greatsaid:
Jacksaid:

This can be done by Mastering Yoga Nidra aka Trance sleep. Just one hour of deep Trance sleep recharges the Body after a whole day of strenuous work .

So when I was "power napping" I did this... Quite interesting. Only five to ten minutes of it will push the worst fatigue away and one is ready for more activities.

One hour of that state would be a great way to rejuvenate, I suppose.

Oh ok. What is “trance sleep”? You mean going into a deep trance without falling asleep?

Being in a deep meditative state but still being conscious. You will have to create a spatial anchor so your consciousness does not fade into the sleep state ,when you go into Deep trance.

My spatial anchor is an eraser. I know what it feels like, what it looks like and how it's texture is and everything even when I'm imagining it. The Subconscious cannot separate reality from imagination. My mental imagination of the eraser is as real as the real eraser itself, to my mind. Since the eraser is real ,any visualization I do is also real around it.

As we go into deep trance, keep the spatial anchor in your hand (by imagining it) so you don't fall totally asleep. When you're in that dream state, you can now enact extreme change by visualizing a scenario happening and your subconscious will make it happen.

Doing this lying down is harder than normally sitting up ,but it can be done if you have the will.

Just search "Yoga Nidra" on b-ok.cc and there will be countless searches. Its essentially the same technique taught by Satyananda Saraswati being repackaged in different forms.

#24
Jacksaid:

Just search "Yoga Nidra" on b-ok.cc and there will be countless searches. Its essentially the same technique taught by Satyananda Saraswati being repackaged in different forms.

This has been very useful for me and others. Thank you for sharing.

It is a good way to practice trance training whilst simultaneously getting good rest. Good for vata people, or anyone who needs good recovery.

Personally, I wake up an hour early and practice it. After practicing entering the trance, I do void and directing energy practice.

It appears that the brain can clean itself when the body is in a deep enough relaxation, however, the only thing yoga nidra cannot easily do is give REM activity to the brain. Supposedly it is possible to have waking REM, if practiced, but this is certainly harder.

Therefore, combining yoga nidra with normal sleep seems to be the best option. Once one is adept in this, the efficacy and accessibility of it will increase as well. One can take a 15 minute, yoga nidra break, for example. This would prove more restful than 15 minutes laying in bed, on the phone.

#25
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Blitzkreigsaid:

It appears that the brain can clean itself when the body is in a deep enough relaxation, however, the only thing yoga nidra cannot easily do is give REM activity to the brain. Supposedly it is possible to have waking REM, if practiced, but this is certainly harder.

Although it's been a long time since I studied lucid dreaming especially at the dreamviews community.

There was one article a person posted of their personal training. And they mentioned entering a trance and entering a lucid dream. You visualize a scene pick up a rock or object then try and enter it to go into the dream as consciously as possible. Something about zooming in on the rock or object pushes you inside of it.

Now of course it's a dream projection not a astral projection as the person enters the dream rather than come out of their body.

Seems easier said than done. I'm sure dream entering and dream practicing are needed much like astral projection training.

#26
CrossRoadsPedestriansaid:

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Doing prolonged "edging" can tax the kidney yang energy a bit. It is not a huge amount overall, however, staying in an aroused, next-to-orgasm, state, is not exactly normal. I think if you can go through with the orgasm itself, without ejaculation, then this is more ideal, and shouldn't be problematic.

The jing itself is a substance made by the kidneys which is like dense yin, or stem cells. It is one of the "treasures" of the body. However, the kidneys have their own general yin and yang components, separate from jing. In addition, food intake and the health of the spleen influence the creation of jing as well.

What you describe with your eyes sounds like a bit of both yin and yang deficiency. A deficiency in one leads to the other. This certainly explains why you feel the tiredness the next day after orgasm, as the kidneys get put under a larger workload to create new semen.

If you look at this article I wrote on kidney health, then you can figure out ways to help yourself. Extend your masturbation frequency a little, to perhaps 4 or 5 days. As you do more for your kidneys, then you should feel less and less tired after the orgasm at the end of that interval. This reflects the kidneys getting stronger.

One of the biggest strains on the kidneys is staying up late, so put focus on this as well. Next would probably be either diet or lack of exercise, so make sure to make the appropriate modifications and always do yoga daily.

You can take herbal formulas, as well, but one has to know about the full state of the body for the best diagnosis and subsequent treatment prescription. I would suggest seeing a TCM practitioner for this. You can also do this online, relatively cheaply.