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Living With a Yehubor?

This looks like an unpleasant situation. Just you do you, and let them do them. You might also want to apply mind power to in a positive way, get out of there, and be on your own. This is the same case with dorms and other places.

You can also appeal this in a more physical way, such as for example say you need a room change for whatever other reason, and get a room with some other people.
 
Interesting, someone else who shares my problem. Funny enough too, I asked Father Satan about this the other day when I was doing a standard ritual.

In essence I was told to just increase my protections around myself, and let him do his stuff. He will move in the next half year or so anyways, and as far as I can tell he's having no negative impact on me.


Another thing I'm doing that you may not be doing though, is I built a crystal grid to protect my room and space. But, that's just another layer of protection ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


For sure though, the returning curses workings would be good to look at if you're being attacked.
 
Reckoned666 said:
Do a Spiritual Jupiter Square. By the end of it you won't live with him anymore.

Affirmation could be like this: My living circumstances are ideal for spiritual advance in a positive way to me at all times. I am not living together with the enemy, now. 8x times

That's a great idea and perfect timing too since Jupiter is currently in Sagittarius. I'll get started on that tomorrow since it's a void moon tonight.
 
I'm just protecting our family. You, with the greatest of intentions, accidently gave possibly dangerous advice. So I explained exactly what is dangerous about it and how it could go wrong to prevent damage from being done. I understand what you meant and I don't disagree with your intention. You just really have to be careful about the wording because a such a slight difference in how you say it can make something totally different manifest.

And you don't have to be so angry at me. It's not helping anything for either of us. It's not really healthy for the soul to have that anger. I know this from personal experience, for years I was always angry that type of energy is like poison. To me, it isn't anything personal. I don't care who you are and I'm certainly not following you around or anything like that. But if I see anybody giving advice that could easily react horribly wrong, I'm going to address that and explain exactly why and how it could go wrong. I appreciate what you're doing here and obviously you have great and caring motivations. You surely didn't do anything wrong. But nothing is going to stop me from protecting our family, and if I see a potential problem I'm going to explain it. What if I kept quiet and something terrible happened? It would be my fault for not saying anything.

About the fallacies, would you like to explain what the problems are with what I wrote? I understand that in everyday regular speaking that affirmation surely wouldn't mean anything like what I explained. But in energy work it doesn't work the same. The energy doesn't know what you mean, it just takes the easiest path and follows the directions literally. Like a story Maxine wrote about. There was somebody who kept affirming "my third eye opens in the strongest and fastest way immediately." What happened is he fell down the stairs and hit his head so hard that he had permanent brain damage, but he technically got what he worked for because his third eye did really open. He was never able to live a normal life, and if I remember correctly, he ended up a subject in government experiments. This is why you need to be so careful when thinking of an affirmation. This all comes from experience. When you complete many different workings and see their results, you'll see how sometimes it manifests in a way that you didn't expect but technically didn't go against the wording of the affirmation. So if I see any loophole where a recommended affirmation could end up disastrous and dangerous, I'm going to explain it. Could even save somebody's life.

Reckoned, I like you. I have a lot of respect for you and I know that you're being helpful. If I notice some slight problem somewhere, it isn't anything personal. So I don't want you to take this personally and get upset. One of the best things I ever did for myself was practicing keeping all types of negative energy outside of me. If somebody else is upset near me, or if they make me upset, I slow down and keep that energy out of me. Most people are pretty open to taking on the emotions of those around them this is natural. But if anybody ever makes you mad, just think that that person is not important enough to make you feel anything that you don't want to. Nobody has any right to put any negativity into you, so just don't let it happen. This is one of the healthiest things I started doing. Both spiritually and physically, all my problems were removed from this practice. Anger is a poison, there is no reason to hold onto it. Especially if there isn't even a good reason for it.

Reckoned666 said:
Holy fucking shit can you stop quoting me at all there's literally more than once fallacy contained in your replies. This is the last time I answer you for now.

Regarding fallacies. They were established by Pluto Aristotle and Socrates. Here is the link. Study them.
Just search Fallacies or Fallacies sticky, whatever.




Ol argedco luciftias said:
Reckoned666 said:
Do a Spiritual Jupiter Square. By the end of it you won't live with him anymore.

Affirmation could be like this: My living circumstances are ideal for spiritual advance in a positive way to me at all times. I am not living together with the enemy, now. 8x times

This affirmation could easily go horribly wrong. Remember the energy is stupid it does what is easiest. What you wrote, "I am not living together with the enemy, now." could possibly kill him. If you affirm that you are not living, that means you're dead. It sounds like the energy would interpret this affirmation to mean and manifest that both of them are dead "The enemy and I together are not living (dead)"

Other than that, it could still not go right. If you just aren't living with the enemy right "now" that doesn't mean that you won't be right back with the enemy a month from now. There should be some permanence to it.
 
He is right, that statement is very ambiguous and the energies can manifest in an unexpected way, it can even be dangerous, you always have to add "in a safe and positive way for me"
I see no reason to be angry when another comrade gives you a good advice.


Reckoned666 said:
Holy fucking shit can you stop quoting me at all there's literally more than once fallacy contained in your replies. This is the last time I answer you for now.

Regarding fallacies. They were established by Pluto Aristotle and Socrates. Here is the link. Study them.
Just search Fallacies or Fallacies sticky, whatever.




Ol argedco luciftias said:
Reckoned666 said:
Do a Spiritual Jupiter Square. By the end of it you won't live with him anymore.

Affirmation could be like this: My living circumstances are ideal for spiritual advance in a positive way to me at all times. I am not living together with the enemy, now. 8x times

This affirmation could easily go horribly wrong. Remember the energy is stupid it does what is easiest. What you wrote, "I am not living together with the enemy, now." could possibly kill him. If you affirm that you are not living, that means you're dead. It sounds like the energy would interpret this affirmation to mean and manifest that both of them are dead "The enemy and I together are not living (dead)"

Other than that, it could still not go right. If you just aren't living with the enemy right "now" that doesn't mean that you won't be right back with the enemy a month from now. There should be some permanence to it.
 
"That's a great idea" was directed towards the Jupiter square, not the suggested affirmation. The only affirmations from others I trust without my own thorough examination of loopholes and potential dangers are HP Maxine's and our older more experienced members.

I hadn't given any thought to the suggested affirmation because I wasn't planning on using it, but now that I'm paying attention to it considering the other posts here, it very well could have killed me. Though I am not upset at this, after all many of our order are still learning and have much to discover, I would highly suggest looking through the Joy of Satan website again in search of information on energy usage or to ask those of us who have been part of Joy of Satan for a long time for answers.

It might also be a good idea to have the post either edited or removed lest newer and younger members find this seeking help for a similar situation and end up endangering themselves out of ignorance by deciding to use the affirmation.
 
Anger is not a poison. It's a very healthy emotion that can be directed or drawn upon in many ways. Holding on to and not releasing anger or any other emotion naturally is what's damaging. It's this day and age where anger can not be expressed as naturally as it use to be like having duels or exacting justice/revenge on the people who deserve it physically, so we learn to express anger, as taught, in a constructive and healthy manner so we won'tt go to jail. Curses turns the clock around. As well as powerful aura.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
I'm just protecting our family. You, with the greatest of intentions, accidently gave possibly dangerous advice. So I explained exactly what is dangerous about it and how it could go wrong to prevent damage from being done. I understand what you meant and I don't disagree with your intention. You just really have to be careful about the wording because a such a slight difference in how you say it can make something totally different manifest.

And you don't have to be so angry at me. It's not helping anything for either of us. It's not really healthy for the soul to have that anger. I know this from personal experience, for years I was always angry that type of energy is like poison. To me, it isn't anything personal. I don't care who you are and I'm certainly not following you around or anything like that. But if I see anybody giving advice that could easily react horribly wrong, I'm going to address that and explain exactly why and how it could go wrong. I appreciate what you're doing here and obviously you have great and caring motivations. You surely didn't do anything wrong. But nothing is going to stop me from protecting our family, and if I see a potential problem I'm going to explain it. What if I kept quiet and something terrible happened? It would be my fault for not saying anything.

About the fallacies, would you like to explain what the problems are with what I wrote? I understand that in everyday regular speaking that affirmation surely wouldn't mean anything like what I explained. But in energy work it doesn't work the same. The energy doesn't know what you mean, it just takes the easiest path and follows the directions literally. Like a story Maxine wrote about. There was somebody who kept affirming "my third eye opens in the strongest and fastest way immediately." What happened is he fell down the stairs and hit his head so hard that he had permanent brain damage, but he technically got what he worked for because his third eye did really open. He was never able to live a normal life, and if I remember correctly, he ended up a subject in government experiments. This is why you need to be so careful when thinking of an affirmation. This all comes from experience. When you complete many different workings and see their results, you'll see how sometimes it manifests in a way that you didn't expect but technically didn't go against the wording of the affirmation. So if I see any loophole where a recommended affirmation could end up disastrous and dangerous, I'm going to explain it. Could even save somebody's life.

Reckoned, I like you. I have a lot of respect for you and I know that you're being helpful. If I notice some slight problem somewhere, it isn't anything personal. So I don't want you to take this personally and get upset. One of the best things I ever did for myself was practicing keeping all types of negative energy outside of me. If somebody else is upset near me, or if they make me upset, I slow down and keep that energy out of me. Most people are pretty open to taking on the emotions of those around them this is natural. But if anybody ever makes you mad, just think that that person is not important enough to make you feel anything that you don't want to. Nobody has any right to put any negativity into you, so just don't let it happen. This is one of the healthiest things I started doing. Both spiritually and physically, all my problems were removed from this practice. Anger is a poison, there is no reason to hold onto it. Especially if there isn't even a good reason for it.

Reckoned666 said:
Holy fucking shit can you stop quoting me at all there's literally more than once fallacy contained in your replies. This is the last time I answer you for now.

Regarding fallacies. They were established by Pluto Aristotle and Socrates. Here is the link. Study them.
Just search Fallacies or Fallacies sticky, whatever.




Ol argedco luciftias said:
This affirmation could easily go horribly wrong. Remember the energy is stupid it does what is easiest. What you wrote, "I am not living together with the enemy, now." could possibly kill him. If you affirm that you are not living, that means you're dead. It sounds like the energy would interpret this affirmation to mean and manifest that both of them are dead "The enemy and I together are not living (dead)"

Other than that, it could still not go right. If you just aren't living with the enemy right "now" that doesn't mean that you won't be right back with the enemy a month from now. There should be some permanence to it.

Yeah and maybe listening to someone like you who has been dedicated for longer then a day could be good thing.
 

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