List of questions

[Seeker in the Dark]

1) I heard I could 2 squares for the same planet at the same time. I could do 2 Sun Squares at the same time for example. How does that work? Let's say I start one this Sunday and another the next Sunday, do I then need to do the mantra numbers separately for each square in separate hours? So if I needed to do 10 mantras for one sun square that day and 20 for the second sun square, I would do these on separate hours correct? Or could I combine them into 30 mantras in one setting/hour? Do the affirmations need to be separate or can I do 2 squares for the same affirmation, if it's the latter then could I combine the required number of mantras for each square into one setting, since I assume if I'm doing separate affirmations I'll have to separate the mantra numbers too.

2) I've reached the 10th day of my Lakshmi mantra and the affirmation I created it for has been fulfilled (got the job). Now I'm wondering if I could repurpose the working with a new affirmation for me to excel at the job as it strengthens my solar chakra, or would I need to restart the working if I'm now doing a new affirmation?

 

[Aleksios]

I don't think it's right to combine the two and do it one time but it's something I'm curious about. I would be very grateful if a JG could answer this question.

Yes, it is better to use a new affirmation for this because the previous energy should have started to fulfill the task given to it by nature.

 

[GoldenxChild1]

1. You can only do two squares for the same planet at the same time if one is a spiritual square, while the other is a material square. In other words, you cannot do two spiritual squares or two material squares for the same planet during a cycle. Does that make sense?

Also, I wouldn't recommend doing a spiritual and material square, anyway, at the same time for the same planet—it is easy to mess up.

2. For an entirely new goal, you need to start a new working.

 

[SeguaceDiSatanas]

1) I heard I could 2 squares for the same planet at the same time

The answer:

I would say that yes, this is definitely possible, but the degree of potential confusion if one is not very organized and focus might be the only factor that would cause an issue.

There is no functional issue in doing this.

Do the affirmations need to be separate or can I do 2 squares for the same affirmation

I might assume that if you use two different squares, the same things you work on will be different. One on an aspect of your soul and the other on the material outcome of your life, don't you think? But yes, both need affirmations. Energy always needs to be programmed.

I know, but this is how common misconceptions are made. I am now very glad this thread was made and I was prompted by Asmodeus to look into some replies on the forum. It was rather alarming that this has went on for very long.

Please everyone always ask questions no matter how simple they might be. The Forum exists for people to answer other people and help them advanced in the past.

YES, the Squares DO need affirmation on the end of them.

How does that work?

Even if it is the same square, you must replace NAMA with SVAHA and vice versa if your goal is material or spiritual. Also even if the square is the same, the way it is traveled (the line with the direction indicating the direction of the number of daily repetitions of the mantras) is completely and different.

Magickal/Kabalistic Squares: How to Correctly Use These

I'll have to separate the mantra numbers too.

The works are different just as the mantra diversifies in the final part and just as the number of daily repetitions is different. Yes, they are two different works. I would not be able to do two squares at the same hour for example, but because I vibrate in long full breaths so it is a mere matter of time.

2) I've reached the 10th day of my Lakshmi mantra and the affirmation I created it for has been fulfilled (got the job).

Hmm you should see if you should make it permanent (for example, if it was directly related to economic income) and then make it last 40 days or if you should stop because you have the job now.

at the same time for the same planet—it is easy to mess up.

Agreed. Many can't even maintain concentration while vibrating with intention, let alone pay attention to what they are doing. It's better not to risk it. However, I always recommend having a square sheet where you can mark with a pen what day-number you are at. I mark the next day's number in my notes beyond that.

 

[HadesWithin666]

When practicing multiple spiritual works, your energy gets divided. If you focus on just one practice, your soul fully absorbs and channels energy in that direction. However, with two practices, the energy splits (e.g., 50%-50%), limiting how much you can absorb at a time.

For example, chanting only the Lakshmi mantra strengthens its energy in the astral, allowing deeper spiritual travel. But if you add other practices, the energy disperses, reducing its intensity and traveling distance [the more it travels , the more 'opportunities' one has]. That said, combining different works can be beneficial, as they carry unique astral codes. The key is knowing your own capacity and power level. The bad side of this would be : If you can't 'comprehend' 3 workings at once, you will then be burned out spiritually and unable to continue any of them workings , I have experienced this, but in time I have become powerful enough to do more workings at once.

In regards to your question:
# The way the material and spiritual squares starts are different and you have to be careful when doing both , not to confuse their directions , best would be to open the file in paint and thicc off with a line that specific day you're doing and then simply the way it goes .

Spiritual one - this one goes more like a snake kind of movement

Material one - this one goes down to top and so forth , follow the way they go, this is crucial for squares [Careful not to do mistakes!]

If you start Sun Spiritual this Sunday , that would mean you will have to do 25x vibrations for the spritual one, continuing with 29 [monday] and you will then have to do just 1 mantra for the new square you're starting according to the drawing.

Simply put, you have to follow their numbers, that's all, you can't combine nothing , you got to get stick with the way they are made and the best way to do 2 squares at once , in my opinion at least would be to start sunday in the morning and on the next sunday start that one in the night about 8 pm.

OR

If you decide to do just one, then you do it every day in the sun hours which will amplify this even stronger, you check the hours https://jos-astro.com/#/planetary-hours-form here [ I personally use more apps in this matter , not just one, just to be very exact when doing spiritual workings that they are at full capacity and best potency]

Warning : Before we start, this is very advanced 'shit' , if you're ready to do 3 workings at once, as you've said you wish, after completing probably many other singular planetary squares and you really think that are ready to go for 'VERY STRONG and COMPLEX' stuff , be my guest , try it , see if you are able to follow it trough , not just by information but mostly by the energy in itself.

Personal advice regards Squares: You got to have your chakra's open [the 7th one's I mean], cleaned and empowered[on a daily basis] and also fully functional. [ You can try do it even without respecting those things , up to each one to do whatever they want and experiment , that's how we've all learned and learn , trough experience].

The planetary squares are very pretentious and exact and must be followed in FULL .

So yea, the Sun is the strongest about 13:00 until 16:00 , that's the best time to do so , but earlier or later are fine as well, but I aim for maximum potential.

Example of hours for full potency based on actual SUN checked hours , according with a random location [ If you decide to do one single working ]:
Sunday, 16/02/2025 start 13:06 end 13:56
Monday, 17/02/2025 start 16:30 end 17:20
Tuesday, 18/02/2025 start 13:58 end 14:48
Wednesday, 19/02/2025 start 11:24 end 12:14
Thursday, 20/02/2025 start 14:51 end 15:42
Friday, 21/02/2025 start 12:15 end 13:06
Saturday, 22/02/2025 start 15:45 end 16:37
Sunday, 23/02/2025 start 13:08 end 14:00


In case you decide to do 2 squares at once then the best example would be this:
Let's say that you start with first square being the material one:
Sunday, 16/02/2025 start 07:11 end 08:01 x1 vibrations [according to the material table]
Monday, 17/02/2025 start 10:34 end 11:24 x30 vibrations [according to the material table]
Tuesday, 18/02/2025 start 07:59 end 08:49 x24 vibrations [according to the material table]
Wednesday, 19/02/2025 start 11:24 end 12:14 x13 vibrations [according to the material table]
Thursday, 20/02/2025 start 08:48 end 09:39 x12 vibrations [according to the material table]
Friday, 21/02/2025 start 12:15 end 13:06 x31 vibrations [according to the material table]
Saturday, 22/02/2025 start 09:37 end 10:29 x2 vibrations [according to the material table]
And then , the next Sunday has came and you got to do this way: [look at the dates]
Sunday, 23/02/2025 start 06:57 end 07:50 x26 vibration [according to the material table] -8th day of material
Sunday, 23/02/2025 start 19:46 end 20:53 x31 vibration [according to the spiritual table] -1th day of spiritual
Monday, 24/02/2025 start 10:28 end 11:21 x17 vibration [according to the material table]-9th day of material
Monday, 24/02/2025 start 16:41 end 17:33 x2 vibration [according to the spiritual table] -2th day of spiritual
Tuesday, 25/02/2025 start 07:47 end 08:40 x23 vibration [according to the material table]-10th day of material
Tuesday, 25/02/2025 start 14:02 end 14:54 x4 vibration [according to the spiritual table] -3th day of spiritual

Tips; I like leaving a distance of at least 6-8 hours hours between two workings , preferably 8 , therefore I would do Sun material morning and Sun Spiritual late night and then I would carry on with Lakshimi on mid day around 14:00 - 15:00 , with the Laskhimi one would be very nice if you could literally keep the same time every day, if you started the working at 14:00 then keep it as such [ this is not a must but it would influence things ].

Conclusion : Sun Material morning / Sun spiritual Evening / mid day the lakshimi working . The above details , if I were to do it at that time , I could then do both workings at SUN's hours, which would enhance both my spiritual workings , if this is not possible , then try to keep at least one of the squares at the Sun hours if possible and also the LakshimiI at the same time.

I've reached the 10th day of my Lakshmi mantra and the affirmation I created it for has been fulfilled (got the job). Now I'm wondering if I could repurpose the working with a new affirmation

You could but I wouldn't , the working must have the same affirmation until the end , what you could do instead then is to stop it and start a new one with a new affirmation or to continue using the same affirmation , one of the two, you got to choose . If you let's say have now a job and started and all is secured then best would be to start a new working with that mantra to attract money or some other pursuit that would advantage your financial circumstances, but if you did not yet got the job as in [singed a contract and having a start time and know for a fact that all is certain] then I would carry on with the Job affirmation for lakshimi until you get full security of a job.

 

[Hs666]

2) I've reached the 10th day of my Lakshmi mantra and the affirmation I created it for has been fulfilled (got the job). Now I'm wondering if I could repurpose the working with a new affirmation for me to excel at the job as it strengthens my solar chakra, or would I need to restart the working if I'm now doing a new affirmation?

Be careful, do not interrupt the spell until the energy is fixed. This can lead to a “reversal.” The energy may stop working and lose its effect in some way. You most likely have transits in your favor on this, but do not take it “lightly.” Fix the energy, even when the result comes sooner than expected as in your case.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Be careful, do not interrupt the spell until the energy is fixed. This can lead to a “reversal.” The energy may stop working and lose its effect in some way. You most likely have transits in your favor on this, but do not take it “lightly.” Fix the energy, even when the result comes sooner than expected as in your case.

So you suggest I finish the 40 days with the outated affirmation?

 

[Hs666]

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Exactly.

 

[AFODO]

1. Not a good idea at all. Don't do it.
2. It will re start the spell if you change the meaning of the affirmation

 

[Henu the Great]

1) I heard I could 2 squares for the same planet at the same time. I could do 2 Sun Squares at the same time for example. How does that work?

Material/Spiritual like I mentioned in the chat...