Just kundalini yoga, nothing else?

I used to do weight training, hatha yoga, 5 Tibetan yoga exercises, but I don’t think it makes much sense to do so much.
That’s why I decided to do a particular kundalini yoga kriya for 40 days.
When I'm done, the next kriya will come again in 40 days ...
And so on! There are a lot of kriya ....
http://www.pinklotus.org/-%20Kundalini%20Yoga%20kriyas%20english.htm

A kriya practice lasts for half an hour about a day. Every day.

Is that okay? I am currently doing physical work and have no more time / strength.

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Man, doing hatha yoga and Kundalini yoga, every day until the end of your life, will be worth it, do that and see your aging process get super slow is worth it.

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Yeah, you have to prioritize things. Yoga comes first, then comes traditional exercise forms. Going even further, I would place Kundalini yoga above the T5R, since it is simply a stronger form of yang yoga. Not that the T5R isn't good, but there isn't time for everything.

Speaking of which, yoga is great for people who don't have the willpower to sit and meditate, or who are new and shouldn't overexert themselves. This will allow the soul to develop in power and later allow for corrective workings to those that find mental effort harder than others.

I used to do weight training, hatha yoga, 5 Tibetan yoga exercises, but I don’t think it makes much sense to do so much.
That’s why I decided to do a particular kundalini yoga kriya for 40 days.
When I'm done, the next kriya will come again in 40 days ...
And so on! There are a lot of kriya ....
http://www.pinklotus.org/-%20Kundalini%20Yoga%20kriyas%20english.htm

A kriya practice lasts for half an hour about a day. Every day.

Is that okay? I am currently doing physical work and have no more time / strength.

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Man, doing hatha yoga and Kundalini yoga, every day until the end of your life, will be worth it, do that and see your aging process get super slow is worth it.

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Thanks for the reply!

Kundalini yoga has almost the same positions as hatha yoga, you just have to do some fire breathing for example.
So two in one!

Wait, when you say just kundalini yoga and nothing else, what do you mean exactly?

Do you mean you’re only doing kundalini yoga for your physical training or do you mean you’re only doing kundalini yoga for your spiritual development and nothing else?

If you’re only doing kundalini yoga for your spiritual development then you’re making a mistake.

I mean it’s better than doing nothing, that’s for sure but True “Zevism” and/or True Spiritual Development is about practicing the 8 fold path daily if possible. This includes

In truth, the Eight-Fold Path is the observance and practice of the following, which greatly amplifies the powers of the mind and soul:

“1. Asanas - Physical positions of the body such as in Hatha Yoga, Kundalini Yoga, the Five Tibetans, and Tai Chi. One must work on and strengthen the physical self through gentle stretching, and manipulation of the spine to facilitate the safe ascension of the serpent. The physical body must be free and flexible, otherwise energy may become trapped. When one consistently performs power meditations, one raises extreme amounts of energy that must be properly directed and above all, free.

2. Pranayama - Breathing Exercises

3. Dhyana - Meditation

4. Mantras - Vibration of words of power to obtain certain goals and/or personal powers

5. Yantras - meditation upon sigils and certain symbols [used along with vibration of mantra for maximum effectiveness]

6. Mudras - Certain seals such as hand positions which activate the vril [chi/witchpower]

7. Bandhas - Energy locks which stimulate and direct the serpent

8. Maithuna - Sexual activity, either with a partner/s or alone. Orgasm is very necessary in both activating and in amplifying the life force. This is why the Christian Church and Muslim program, in an attempt to remove all spiritual knowledge and power, are always condemning, and placing restrictions on sexual activity.

By practicing all of the above, one will greatly enhance and amplify his/her powers and shorten the time in achieving the godhead.”

Obviously, some of these can be done along with your kundalini yoga session. Like if you wanted to do breathing exercises, mantras, bandhas((energy locks)), mudras and meditation along with your kundalini session, you can but my point is you should be and you can be doing more than just doing the kundalini yoga.

I know some people lack time but an example of what I’m saying is, let’s say someone just practiced kundalini yoga everyday right and then one day they also did something like the full chakra meditation((from the Temple of Zeus website)) which involves doing mantras into the chakras to empower and unblock them. When they did/do that full chakra meditation, they would notice that their chakras would amplify and begin getting unblocked more than they do from just doing the yoga session and they would begin to get further in tune with them and etc.

Doing vibrations, meditating and focusing on certain parts of the soul is powerful and can/will help you develop faster as opposed to just doing Kriyas only.

The KY does unblock the chakras and empower the soul but I’m just saying you can get way more in tune how one who is trying to spiritually advance is supposed to/you will advance quicker which is the goal here.

No I’m not in any way saying it’s a race here or to try to rush your spiritual advancement because one shouldn’t do that, I’m just saying if you’re really trying to advance, you’re only slowing yourself down in the growth of your consciousness and spirituality by only doing kundalini yoga.

There’s that fact and also the fact that you can and should be beginning to learn how to utilize your spiritual power so you can learn to keep yourself protected and manifest your desires with magick. This is what the Gods taught humanity, this is what Zevism and true development is about as I’ve stated already.

There’s also a lot of meditations on the Temple of Zeus that should be mastered and done daily and etc.

It’s also highly recommended to cleanse and heal your mind too with the Satanic void meditation and cleaning your aura/soul thoroughly.

These are just some tips and things to keep in mind. Keep studying the material here and on the Temple of Zeus website and , keep practicing spirituality, begin doing the meditations if you really want to advance.

There’s a lot to cover and to learn, do not be alarmed or frightened by any of this stuff that I’ve mentioned, just keep on keeping on and keep studying. With knowledge you can over come all of this and truly advance yourself.

Don’t limit yourself to only practicing yoga. Don’t you want to further develop your soul and learn how to utilize your powers?

If you just meant doing kundalini yoga for your physical training then I guess that’s up to you but it’s important to stretch the muscles if you’re a person who is trying to build their muscles because energy can get trapped when you’re sore and can’t put a limb straight.

In reality, the body should be stretched thoroughly everyday anyway.

You know how you see some old people and they’re really stiff and hunched over. Their energy isn’t flowing to the higher centers.

Stiffness=stagnation and death.
Movement= Vitality, transformation/empowerment and life.

Keep this in mind and take care.

I don't understand why people still get confused. Yoga is everything that is included in the eight-fold path. So, everything that is included in the ToZ. Meditation, breathing exercises, physical poses, and so on. Too many people read 'yoga' and think only of the asana. That's a false notion. Kundalini yoga is our path, the Satanic path.

Clarified that, let's move to your question, which is specific to the physical poses. Poses from the hatha tradition are a must, and need to be included to ground and balance yourself, even if it's just 10 minutes a day.

Also, if you want to refine your body, this is not enough. You need to include something else to develop power, strength, endurance, agility, and so on. The most complete and versatile gains come from gymnastics (not to confuse with calisthenics) and will develop your body in the same way you see in Ancient Greek, Roman, Egyptian and Vedic statues. It will also magnify the awareness and control you learn from hatha asana, which other disciplines do not give you to a satisfactory degree.

Otherwise, choose a discipline that resonates deeply with you. Something that makes you feel passionate, feeding the spark within you, lighting you up like a trillion suns. If you don't have one training system that does that for you, you can find it by trial and error. I guarantee you will find it. Some people are convinced that because they are introverted/yin/lazy/tamasic/sedentary/prefer indoor hobbies/etc that there is nothing out there for them. This is a delusion created simply by enemy influence as they get accustomed to an unhealthy life. It may take hard work, but you can 100% break free from it if you apply yourself to it. Why? Because human beings are not created as sedentary creatures. We are created as a warrior species.

If you don't like weight-lifting, that is fine. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, it can also lead to many imbalances and weaken your joints, whether you use the proper form or not. Why? Because your body isn't simply supposed to overload certain muscles in isolation, but to be used 'whole' with effort equally distributed across many muscle groups. It can also easily lead to a disproportionate (=oversized) physique which is not functional for advanced levels of asana practice (nor for martial arts and combat in general, as well as combat roles in the military). This is because excessive bulk reduces mobility and agility, which are of paramount importance for those positions. Bulk =/= from strength. You can have condensed strength through disciplines that create a more packed/dense muscle mass, such as gymnastics (and not only!).

As a final note, kundalini and hatha are NOT the same thing. Kundalini are specific manipulations of the spine, such as the basic spinal series. It is based on movement and the breath of fire, so active. Hatha is based on relaxation and stillness, maintaining each position for 3 to 5 minutes. Past the first 2 minutes it's when your muscles start relaxing properly and you can get more deeply into the pose. Hatha practice grounds you and balances you. It's in its name: ha (the sun) + tha (the moon). Yoga means union. It also opens all your nadih, increasing the flow of energy in your soul. It expands them, until they gradually merge into one single, titanic nadi.

Do not get confused with pink lotus. Just because we took the spinal series from them, it doesn't mean that everything on that website is correct. In fact, there are many things that should be completed ignored, and others who are severely diluted and sometimes even altered.

I don't understand why people still get confused. Yoga is everything that is included in the eight-fold path. So, everything that is included in the ToZ. Meditation, breathing exercises, physical poses, and so on. Too many people read 'yoga' and think only of the asana. That's a false notion. Kundalini yoga is our path, the Satanic path.

Clarified that, let's move to your question, which is specific to the physical poses. Poses from the hatha tradition are a must, and need to be included to ground and balance yourself, even if it's just 10 minutes a day.

I’m aware of such thing, that’s why I said that those other things can and should be incorporated into a yoga session. However, many others are not aware of such things which is why you and I both further clarified.

in that yoga link, there is alot of links. which ones should be done daily? like the most important ones for advancement?

I don't understand why people still get confused. Yoga is everything that is included in the eight-fold path. So, everything that is included in the ToZ. Meditation, breathing exercises, physical poses, and so on. Too many people read 'yoga' and think only of the asana. That's a false notion. Kundalini yoga is our path, the Satanic path.

Clarified that, let's move to your question, which is specific to the physical poses. Poses from the hatha tradition are a must, and need to be included to ground and balance yourself, even if it's just 10 minutes a day.

Also, if you want to refine your body, this is not enough. You need to include something else to develop power, strength, endurance, agility, and so on. The most complete and versatile gains come from gymnastics (not to confuse with calisthenics) and will develop your body in the same way you see in Ancient Greek, Roman, Egyptian and Vedic statues. It will also magnify the awareness and control you learn from hatha asana, which other disciplines do not give you to a satisfactory degree.

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Of course, I don’t just do kundalini yoga.
Meditation, breathing exercises, mantras, etc.
Kundalini yoga: 35 minutes
Meditation: 60 minutes
Breathing exercises: 20 minutes
Mantra: 15 minutes
In addition, I do physical work and walk 3 kilometers a day to get to work.
I study 2 hours a day + I work 8 hours + 1 hour goes to work!

The physical work I do is hard, so if I do yoga or exercise, I almost die, my joints hurt so much!

Don’t get mad, but who the hell has time to do something else, every day, in the long run? And I don't even have a family! Once I have a family, I won’t even have that much time!

I would also like to say that in my opinion it is not really worth spending more than half an hour a day on yoga and exercise.
It may be different, you can argue with it, but that’s my opinion!

Meditation is the most effective, I think it’s worth the most time.
Yoga alone does not result in spiritual development.
I personally know several hatha yoga instructors who already have thousands of hours of yoga instruction behind them and I think he practices the same at home and his kundalini hasn’t even moved, basically nothing has developed the way I interviewed, although he meditates the same way (obviously not on the left hand follows a path, but still).
So I think the point is to choose the yoga trail we like and enjoy it.
Well, I enjoy kundalini yoga.
When I do specifically hatha yoga, I look forward to when it’s over. I'm not enjoying it.
I also hate weight training or self weight training.
Kundalini yoga is the only thing I enjoy, so that’s all I do.

I don't understand why people still get confused. Yoga is everything that is included in the eight-fold path. So, everything that is included in the ToZ. Meditation, breathing exercises, physical poses, and so on. Too many people read 'yoga' and think only of the asana. That's a false notion. Kundalini yoga is our path, the Satanic path.

Clarified that, let's move to your question, which is specific to the physical poses. Poses from the hatha tradition are a must, and need to be included to ground and balance yourself, even if it's just 10 minutes a day.

Also, if you want to refine your body, this is not enough. You need to include something else to develop power, strength, endurance, agility, and so on. The most complete and versatile gains come from gymnastics (not to confuse with calisthenics) and will develop your body in the same way you see in Ancient Greek, Roman, Egyptian and Vedic statues. It will also magnify the awareness and control you learn from hatha asana, which other disciplines do not give you to a satisfactory degree.

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Of course, I don’t just do kundalini yoga.
Meditation, breathing exercises, mantras, etc.
Kundalini yoga: 35 minutes
Meditation: 60 minutes
Breathing exercises: 20 minutes
Mantra: 15 minutes
In addition, I do physical work and walk 3 kilometers a day to get to work.
I study 2 hours a day + I work 8 hours + 1 hour goes to work!

The physical work I do is hard, so if I do yoga or exercise, I almost die, my joints hurt so much!

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You forwent my initial point but whatever.

As to who has time to do all, it's a matter of tailoring your schedule to your goals and lifestyle. What are your spiritual goals? That's a question I cannot answer for you and you don't need to put an answer on the forum either, but try to be realistic with it. How fast do you want to advance? That's again up to you. You can do it as fast or as slow as you want, and this will be reflected in your schedule.

Answering your latest post too, both types of ASANA work on different things.

The flexibility you get with hatha makes sure all your energy channels open (first milestone of hatha). If you cannot do front splits, middle splits, thoracic brings, a proper pike shape, have bad posture and struggle with maintaining body alignment with basic things like a handstand, a front plank, reverse plank and side plank, etc. then your meridians aren't fully open, uncluttered and properly developed. The road to kundalini ascension will be much, much longer (and you'll still need to go into proper flexibility and body alignment). Are there other techniques to ground you that do not require using your body? Sure, but none as effective as hatha.

The spinal manipulations from kundalini are of paramount importance for creating a straight path for kundalini to rise. Can it rise without it? Yes, with great difficulty. Can you refine your body properly and achieve higher stages such as body immortality without it? No, impossible.

You don't enjoy hatha? Consistency and true dedication to it will make it enjoyable. It is about relaxation, not pain. If you feel pain, you're not doing it correctly. You are forcing yourself, which is more akin to stretching and has nothing to do with hatha. People who don't enjoy hatha are usually stiff in body and impatient in both body and mind.

Also, I am not even sure why mantra and meditation are separate in your schedule, when nearly all meditations we have on ToZ have mantra. Not sure also why kundalini takes you 35 minutes. I remember reading from people more advanced than me that 111 reps can take you as little as 20 minutes. That's 15 minutes earned for you.

If you spend half an hour a day on yoga and exercise, better be realistic with your results. You most likely won't have a good body as a result. I see many complaining they don't have a 6-pack, then they eat rubbish or are into whatever fad diet or poisonous supplement and/or cannot be consistent with training either. I hear many inventing the most ridiculous stories about why athletes have great bodies and they don't, because one somehow must be a cheater in comparison to someone who barely trains a few hours a week. Olympians and other pros are training as a full time job. 30-32 hours a week. Most would fall apart from their rhythm, but somehow it's the athlete's fault because the layman doesn't understand progression and other things that build the body and keeps following broscience instead and ignorant instructors.

Why did I go to talk about that? Simply because grapes are not sour just because they're out of your reach. Learn patience and timing, instead of blaming SOME PARTS of yoga as ineffective spiritually. Do you think the likes of Lady Pythia, HP Zevios Metathronos, Lydia and so on would be suggesting people to do asana and even helping them understand what to do, if they were of no use for advancement?

By your logic then, because kundalini yoga teachers get mostly nowhere in life, become vegan and have unnaturally slim bodies, then it doesn't result into spiritual development either. But then you're making the emotional argument that kundalini is okay because you enjoy it and hatha is not because you don't. Neither LHP nor RHP 'meditations' give you power and advancement. Some of them help you develop your mind and awareness, but that's all there is there, really.

Emotions don't exist to control your action, but for you to harness them for your benefit. Be careful of not doing hatha, as you will have no grounding and your mind may get into delusions and be lost, such as some of the members that are no longer with us.

Also, I am not even sure why mantra and meditation are separate in your schedule, when nearly all meditations we have on ToZ have mantra. Not sure also why kundalini takes you 35 minutes. I remember reading from people more advanced than me that 111 reps can take you as little as 20 minutes. That's 15 minutes earned for you.

KY Basic Spinal Energy Series, for me with 108 reps for all but one part takes usually 17-19 minutes, and 10 minutes on savasana on top of that. Time spent hovers around 27 minutes most usually.

Also, I am not even sure why mantra and meditation are separate in your schedule, when nearly all meditations we have on ToZ have mantra. Not sure also why kundalini takes you 35 minutes. I remember reading from people more advanced than me that 111 reps can take you as little as 20 minutes. That's 15 minutes earned for you.

KY Basic Spinal Energy Series, for me with 108 reps for all but one part takes usually 17-19 minutes, and 10 minutes on savasana on top of that. Time spent hovers around 27 minutes most usually.

That's the one I meant. Thanks for pitching in.

Also, I am not even sure why mantra and meditation are separate in your schedule, when nearly all meditations we have on ToZ have mantra. Not sure also why kundalini takes you 35 minutes. I remember reading from people more advanced than me that 111 reps can take you as little as 20 minutes. That's 15 minutes earned for you.

KY Basic Spinal Energy Series, for me with 108 reps for all but one part takes usually 17-19 minutes, and 10 minutes on savasana on top of that. Time spent hovers around 27 minutes most usually.

That's the one I meant. Thanks for pitching in.

Just wondering... I could try that kriya without pauses between movements. What do you think, is that bad idea? Other option would be to go 216 rep for most movements, execpt for the sigsawing at heart chakra, 108x. This would not be good for beginners, but I feel like something has to change.

KY Basic Spinal Energy Series, for me with 108 reps for all but one part takes usually 17-19 minutes, and 10 minutes on savasana on top of that. Time spent hovers around 27 minutes most usually.

That's the one I meant. Thanks for pitching in.

Just wondering... I could try that kriya without pauses between movements. What do you think, is that bad idea? Other option would be to go 216 rep for most movements, execpt for the sigsawing at heart chakra, 108x. This would not be good for beginners, but I feel like something has to change.

I have never done it. In my opinion, the waiting time is necessary to fully meditate on the flow of energy before moving on to the next movement. You can experiment and see if it works for you. You could definitely build up to 216 but I don't know if that's helpful. Maybe this is a question better answered by Lydia or HP Zevios Metathronos. The important thing is to keep building momentum.

Hatha is based on relaxation and stillness, maintaining each position for 3 to 5 minutes. Past the first 2 minutes it's when your muscles start relaxing properly and you can get more deeply into the pose. Hatha practice grounds you and balances you. It's in its name: ha (the sun) + tha (the moon). Yoga means union. It also opens all your nadih, increasing the flow of energy in your soul. It expands them, until they gradually merge into one single, titanic nadi.

Damn, are you sure about holding each position for 3 to 5 minutes? I never really go over 2 minutes and feel great, guess I'll try it tomorrow and report back.

That's the one I meant. Thanks for pitching in.

Just wondering... I could try that kriya without pauses between movements. What do you think, is that bad idea? Other option would be to go 216 rep for most movements, execpt for the sigsawing at heart chakra, 108x. This would not be good for beginners, but I feel like something has to change.

I have never done it. In my opinion, the waiting time is necessary to fully meditate on the flow of energy before moving on to the next movement. You can experiment and see if it works for you. You could definitely build up to 216 but I don't know if that's helpful. Maybe this is a question better answered by Lydia or HP Zevios Metathronos. The important thing is to keep building momentum.

You're most likely right about that one. It makes perfect sense to not alter the pause periods, but the repetitions, that is another matter. Just as the raising energy up the spine can be done up to, something like 31 Minutes or so. So I did 216x today, and got the increased response to stimuli I was seeking. All in all, it took about five more minutes than previously. Worth!

Hatha is based on relaxation and stillness, maintaining each position for 3 to 5 minutes. Past the first 2 minutes it's when your muscles start relaxing properly and you can get more deeply into the pose. Hatha practice grounds you and balances you. It's in its name: ha (the sun) + tha (the moon). Yoga means union. It also opens all your nadih, increasing the flow of energy in your soul. It expands them, until they gradually merge into one single, titanic nadi.

Damn, are you sure about holding each position for 3 to 5 minutes? I never really go over 2 minutes and feel great, guess I'll try it tomorrow and report back.

There is an improvement, however I dont have all that many poses in my practice that I can hold all that long. Can you share your favorites?

Hatha is based on relaxation and stillness, maintaining each position for 3 to 5 minutes. Past the first 2 minutes it's when your muscles start relaxing properly and you can get more deeply into the pose. Hatha practice grounds you and balances you. It's in its name: ha (the sun) + tha (the moon). Yoga means union. It also opens all your nadih, increasing the flow of energy in your soul. It expands them, until they gradually merge into one single, titanic nadi.

Damn, are you sure about holding each position for 3 to 5 minutes? I never really go over 2 minutes and feel great, guess I'll try it tomorrow and report back.

Yes, it allows you to go deeper into relaxations because your muscles get used to it. If you have the time, I highly recommend it. Your body will adapt faster.