Just a few concerns

[Pan_Shaman]

Hello dear reader.

I am kinda comming out of a two-three year depression. Ihave been quite less active than the previous years I was not. However during this... Gloomy period I did reach to some objective realizations (this thread is only my opinion and I will try to treat whoever it applies to with response).

During my commitment to satanism I have went through many ups and downs, many highs when I was strongly meditating, and many lows after I got depressed (it's really easy to say meditation helps depression, but it's really hard for a person with mental illness to deal with it. Pills do and can work if u are treated properly)

IMO this will be my last depression. I have come through this 35yr old life journey to realize that there is strength inside us. Strength in people who are devoted to their works/goals/hopes and dreams.

Haven't been in the mood for rtrs the past year as well and there has been a lot of toxicity thinking towards people of the joy of Satan (especially hphoodedcobra) in my head.
I suppose it's hard to bind to an abstract idea-its also hard to follow someone you don't admire.

Frankly, admiration can be quite dangerous and devastating.

I do sincerely believe another person should rise up and write motivating sermons other than HPHC, preferably a native American speaker, or at least someone should help edit them.

I understand the fiery passion and the upbgringing of ideas and all, however there is a lack of high literature knowledge in your writings HPHC (in case you are reading this). I might make you titled, you, who read this, thinking I am an enemy, but I am not here to spread doubt (neither am I here to sympathize with people who flatter others). This is just my concern and you shouldn't feel offended

I also believe a lot of people should leave their comfort zones and go out and meet the world and get real life experiences.

Sitting behind a laptop and meditating while living a routine won't really get you anywhere. You need to get yourself out there, live hard situations, accelarate your growth.

Or at least, that's what I would have liked to hear.

I also am not trying to provoke old members here or lure them into making this post that I am merely posting something I am concerned since day one and has took me great courage to post it after 7 years.

I certainly hope you will understand where I am comming from.

I understand that positive encouragement brings fruits but we shouldn't neglect opposite opinions, however harsh they are. We can't be friends with everyone after all.

That's all. If anyone wants to degrade my personality or my belief in satanism I suggest you wouldn't.
Thank you

 

[SeguaceDiSatanas]

Hello dear reader.

I am kinda comming out of a two-three year depression. Ihave been quite less active than the previous years I was not. However during this... Gloomy period I did reach to some objective realizations (this thread is only my opinion and I will try to treat whoever it applies to with response).

During my commitment to satanism I have went through many ups and downs, many highs when I was strongly meditating, and many lows after I got depressed (it's really easy to say meditation helps depression, but it's really hard for a person with mental illness to deal with it. Pills do and can work if u are treated properly)

IMO this will be my last depression. I have come through this 35yr old life journey to realize that there is strength inside us. Strength in people who are devoted to their works/goals/hopes and dreams.

Haven't been in the mood for rtrs the past year as well and there has been a lot of toxicity thinking towards people of the joy of Satan (especially hphoodedcobra) in my head.
I suppose it's hard to bind to an abstract idea-its also hard to follow someone you don't admire.

Frankly, admiration can be quite dangerous and devastating.

I do sincerely believe another person should rise up and write motivating sermons other than HPHC, preferably a native American speaker, or at least someone should help edit them.

I understand the fiery passion and the upbgringing of ideas and all, however there is a lack of high literature knowledge in your writings HPHC (in case you are reading this). I might make you titled, you, who read this, thinking I am an enemy, but I am not here to spread doubt (neither am I here to sympathize with people who flatter others). This is just my concern and you shouldn't feel offended

I also believe a lot of people should leave their comfort zones and go out and meet the world and get real life experiences.

Sitting behind a laptop and meditating while living a routine won't really get you anywhere. You need to get yourself out there, live hard situations, accelarate your growth.

Or at least, that's what I would have liked to hear.

I also am not trying to provoke old members here or lure them into making this post that I am merely posting something I am concerned since day one and has took me great courage to post it after 7 years.

I certainly hope you will understand where I am comming from.

I understand that positive encouragement brings fruits but we shouldn't neglect opposite opinions, however harsh they are. We can't be friends with everyone after all.

That's all. If anyone wants to degrade my personality or my belief in satanism I suggest you wouldn't.
Thank you

I'll try to answer with what I think: Having active experiences in life, it's true, helps a lot. Much of what I have achieved in life is the result of the lessons I have learned by dealing with it.

But to say that daily routines to be taken seriously such as daily meditation are not useful or at least not that effective is completely wrong. If your goal is truly to advance, to improve, it is natural that you will have to take time every day to do things that actually lead you to succeed in this. You can't grow muscles just by going out of the house and meeting people. Constant training is needed.

This should not become an obsessive thought or something that would cause you anxiety, it is not the healthy way to experience it. The most correct way is not through anxiety, but through commitment, love for ourselves and the pleasure and joy of always improving ourselves. The two things here aren't one better than the other, they simply go together.

As for the very noble High Priest HoodedCobra666, you are not "obliged to like him". But it is important that before judging him, you know these things: HP HoodedCobra666 is NOT a random person. His office is desired and blessed by the Gods who support the universe and imbue it with the highest states. He works closely with these Deities.

And, likewise, the wonderful High Priestess Lydia also has this title in complete blessing of the Gods. They did not proclaim themselves as such independently of the will arising from the omnipotent wisdom of the Gods. It's not to praise them, it's a fact. HP HoodedCobra666 has truly pulled out all the stops for JoS and continues to do so. It's not even fair to him not to recognize his merits.

Whether you like how he writes or him as a person is obviously and remains your business. Personally I love his charisma and how he expresses himself, his ideas and the truth of Satan, it's obviously subjective, but I think he deserves to be recognized by someone.

And if our entire community, including me, loves him, just as we love HPS Lydia, it is because they have given their hearts, time and energy to this community. In practice they are the ones who made the first move and this too must be recognized.

Finally, not everyone can be a High Priest. It is a great responsibility that is beyond the understanding of people who do not have this title. Requirements of knowledge, awareness and ability are needed to be one in this universe that works through severe meritocracy. To make you understand that HP HoodedCobra666 is not a random "guy".

I'm very sorry for what you went through though. I'm glad you can use your experiences to mature.

 

[WoadWarrior]

What more do you want HPHC to do? Like seriously you say you didnt even do RTR's for a year due to depression okay fair enough it happens, but HPHC has been doing constant work this entire time, and there are other members writing articles in fluent English like the Guardians and Lydia.

If HPHC is trusted by Baalzebul he has my trust, the proof is in the raw power of the rituals that he posts, they are incredibly strong, what is there to doubt about him? You dont need to like him as a person I dont really know him as a person sure he may be a bit stern, but frankly as someone who has been a member of JoS from very early on the OG yahoo forums used to be something of a cesspit and needed a firmer hand it is what it is, im sure HPHC would love to chill out, relax and just focus on himself but he dosen't he puts the work in everyday.

I hope you continue on this journey and see things a little bit more clearly going forward, I dont think you have come to antagonize but your points arent really explained very well, HPHC has often told people to go out and live their lives and not just sit in front of a laptop all day, and yet here you are mirroring that sentiment yet its different somehow?

Honestly if anything I think there is too much of a focus on material development in the sermons seemingly of the opposite of your complaint and so how can HPHC appeal to both of us? He cant, he can only do his best and I think thats what hes doing and thus I can ask no more of him and can only congratulate the job him and the rest of the clergy are doing.

 

[Satans Son]

Firstly congratulations on your improving situation, not everyone manages to come back from serious depression like that.
Remember the highs you got from continuing a solid meditation schedule, and if your medication routine is helpful with the lows perhaps the two can coexist and keep you from relapse ensuring this to be your final depression episode.
Don't worry about the rtrs, your emotional stability is far more important at the moment, maybe some of the meditations ,self help, protection rituals would benefit you more today.
You seem to have grown through this episode as your wording is honest and strong, don't stop being that but help yourself by eliminating the toxic thinking, the only person that affects is you.
Just let it go and understand it's ok to do that.

You're understanding the importance of putting the computer away and going out to put your learned lessons to use in real life scenarios, keep at that.
It's fortunate for those that read your post and needed to hear that have.
It's up to them to decide what's next.

If you're not a fan of the sermons lately perhaps spending more time away and focusing on yourself is just the proper way for you to be for now.
JOS will still be here moving forward, pop in every now and again and see if anything resonates with you, you never know right?
You're on the other side of some things some members are going through now.
Maybe you can help them negotiate the roads you've recently traveled.

I feel as if you're behaving exactly as a child of Father should.
It's a path of growth and learning, and you're growing and learning.
Your truths are valid and worth sharing.
I feel as if this was a necessary step for your recovery.
Congratulations again.

 

[Pan_Shaman]

What more do you want HPHC to do? Like seriously you say you didnt even do RTR's for a year due to depression okay fair enough it happens, but HPHC has been doing constant work this entire time, and there are other members writing articles in fluent English like the Guardians and Lydia.

If HPHC is trusted by Baalzebul he has my trust, the proof is in the raw power of the rituals that he posts, they are incredibly strong, what is there to doubt about him? You dont need to like him as a person I dont really know him as a person sure he may be a bit stern, but frankly as someone who has been a member of JoS from very early on the OG yahoo forums used to be something of a cesspit and needed a firmer hand it is what it is, im sure HPHC would love to chill out, relax and just focus on himself but he dosen't he puts the work in everyday.

I hope you continue on this journey and see things a little bit more clearly going forward, I dont think you have come to antagonize but your points arent really explained very well, HPHC has often told people to go out and live their lives and not just sit in front of a laptop all day, and yet here you are mirroring that sentiment yet its different somehow?

Honestly if anything I think there is too much of a focus on material development in the sermons seemingly of the opposite of your complaint and so how can HPHC appeal to both of us? He cant, he can only do his best and I think thats what hes doing and thus I can ask no more of him and can only congratulate the job him and the rest of the clergy are doing.

That's not what I meant.... I highly respect the work he has done, I m merely pointing out the fact I pointed in what I wrote...

 

[Pan_Shaman]

Firstly congratulations on your improving situation, not everyone manages to come back from serious depression like that.
Remember the highs you got from continuing a solid meditation schedule, and if your medication routine is helpful with the lows perhaps the two can coexist and keep you from relapse ensuring this to be your final depression episode.
Don't worry about the rtrs, your emotional stability is far more important at the moment, maybe some of the meditations ,self help, protection rituals would benefit you more today.
You seem to have grown through this episode as your wording is honest and strong, don't stop being that but help yourself by eliminating the toxic thinking, the only person that affects is you.
Just let it go and understand it's ok to do that.

You're understanding the importance of putting the computer away and going out to put your learned lessons to use in real life scenarios, keep at that.
It's fortunate for those that read your post and needed to hear that have.
It's up to them to decide what's next.

If you're not a fan of the sermons lately perhaps spending more time away and focusing on yourself is just the proper way for you to be for now.
JOS will still be here moving forward, pop in every now and again and see if anything resonates with you, you never know right?
You're on the other side of some things some members are going through now.
Maybe you can help them negotiate the roads you've recently traveled.

I feel as if you're behaving exactly as a child of Father should.
It's a path of growth and learning, and you're growing and learning.
Your truths are valid and worth sharing.
I feel as if this was a necessary step for your recovery.
Congratulations again.

Thank you for your kind words

 

[Pan_Shaman]

I'll try to answer with what I think: Having active experiences in life, it's true, helps a lot. Much of what I have achieved in life is the result of the lessons I have learned by dealing with it.

But to say that daily routines to be taken seriously such as daily meditation are not useful or at least not that effective is completely wrong. If your goal is truly to advance, to improve, it is natural that you will have to take time every day to do things that actually lead you to succeed in this. You can't grow muscles just by going out of the house and meeting people. Constant training is needed.

This should not become an obsessive thought or something that would cause you anxiety, it is not the healthy way to experience it. The most correct way is not through anxiety, but through commitment, love for ourselves and the pleasure and joy of always improving ourselves. The two things here aren't one better than the other, they simply go together.

As for the very noble High Priest HoodedCobra666, you are not "obliged to like him". But it is important that before judging him, you know these things: HP HoodedCobra666 is NOT a random person. His office is desired and blessed by the Gods who support the universe and imbue it with the highest states. He works closely with these Deities.

And, likewise, the wonderful High Priestess Lydia also has this title in complete blessing of the Gods. They did not proclaim themselves as such independently of the will arising from the omnipotent wisdom of the Gods. It's not to praise them, it's a fact. HP HoodedCobra666 has truly pulled out all the stops for JoS and continues to do so. It's not even fair to him not to recognize his merits.

Whether you like how he writes or him as a person is obviously and remains your business. Personally I love his charisma and how he expresses himself, his ideas and the truth of Satan, it's obviously subjective, but I think he deserves to be recognized by someone.

And if our entire community, including me, loves him, just as we love HPS Lydia, it is because they have given their hearts, time and energy to this community. In practice they are the ones who made the first move and this too must be recognized.

Finally, not everyone can be a High Priest. It is a great responsibility that is beyond the understanding of people who do not have this title. Requirements of knowledge, awareness and ability are needed to be one in this universe that works through severe meritocracy. To make you understand that HP HoodedCobra666 is not a random "guy".

I'm very sorry for what you went through though. I'm glad you can use your experiences to mature.

I hear what you say. I do know he is not a random guy and I am very aware of the work he has put through all these years.

My post is merely a subjective belief that things can be even better.

Thank you for your input and care

 

[Henu the Great]

Oh, the usual "things can be better" while not lifting a single brick yourself. We have had much of that, and it seems we continue to have. Those who work, work, and the rest talk the talk.

 

[Pan_Shaman]

Oh, the usual "things can be better" while not lifting a single brick yourself. We have had much of that, and it seems we continue to have. Those who work, work, and the rest talk the talk

How can you say when you don't know whether I have put work for satanism... I did around 100 translations for the Greek page and was everyday doing rtr for 5 years ever since I joined satanism... Plus the arguments with people who aren't even into satanism all these years.

I do my part for as much as I can

Still, yes, things can be and should be better. Including myself of course.

What I merely posted is my subjective opinion on HPHC writings, I don't understand why you should feel insulted by it.