It's really sad what xtianity does to people

[wotan namah]

I was kind of feeling bad so I wanted to type this out. My father who was an xtian pastor with the methodist church he is now retired. He is in a really bad place where he feels hopeless depressed and anxious all the time and is losing his cognitive abilities. He isn't talking to people or wanting to do much anymore he's been in the psych ward before and it didn't help him. I see the effects this religion has on his soul a lot of black and gray energy and something where the energies in his soul are blocked and they come out in brighter colors around him cause his energies have nowhere to go in the blockage. Part of me is sad to see this as he didn't treat me bad. The other part is his soul is so bad it's almost harmful for me to be around it. I am a sensitive water moon with a water sun and another water planet in Domicile and pisces intercepted in my first house so I tend to feel bad about things when they are not harmonious. I feel a little scared About all this as he was helping me with some stuff like getting around but is unable to do so anymore much. I also feel bad that this religion is claiming people's lives. They would hate me if they knew who I was anyways in the spiritual which also is sad.

But yes xtianity in it's advanced stages completely screws people up in the spiritual and the physical I see this first hand. I used to hate him but not as much anymore as he's not done bad things to me. I guess xtianity makes people feel worthless and hopeless and I know this because medication doesn't help him it's a spiritual issue but not much I can do myself. My guardian said "he made his choice" meaning he has to live with it.

Doesn't mean it's not sad how people who really are not that bad of people on the inside can be a victim of a lie to the point he is.

It's all hopeless to me it looks like he is just going to get worse and worse. My mom is ok right now but she is obviously worried about him.

So yeah it's sad to devote your entire being and life to something that is a lie. Me I just hope he doesn't go to the some place and burn or be tortured in the end after all this. I am convinced Hell is a real place for those who were traitors against humanity or fell for the reptilian lies like those who are too far gone. I don't think any of the Demons will prevent him from going there. So I worry about him being tortured cause I honestly am an empathetic person and don't believe he deserves it and I hate the thought of someone who helped me with stuff being tortured in the worst ways beyond human imagining and feeling fear beyond what is even possible on earth and unspeakable torments.

That was my main worry for years about him I don't want to see him go to that place but not much I can do. I tried to when I was younger convince him of my beliefs since I didn't want him to go there but he didn't listen and even made fun of the stuff on chakras and stuff. So not much I can do.

 

[wotan namah]

I was kind of feeling bad so I wanted to type this out. My father who was an xtian pastor with the methodist church he is now retired. He is in a really bad place where he feels hopeless depressed and anxious all the time and is losing his cognitive abilities. He isn't talking to people or wanting to do much anymore he's been in the psych ward before and it didn't help him. I see the effects this religion has on his soul a lot of black and gray energy and something where the energies in his soul are blocked and they come out in brighter colors around him cause his energies have nowhere to go in the blockage. Part of me is sad to see this as he didn't treat me bad. The other part is his soul is so bad it's almost harmful for me to be around it. I am a sensitive water moon with a water sun and another water planet in Domicile and pisces intercepted in my first house so I tend to feel bad about things when they are not harmonious. I feel a little scared About all this as he was helping me with some stuff like getting around but is unable to do so anymore much. I also feel bad that this religion is claiming people's lives. They would hate me if they knew who I was anyways in the spiritual which also is sad.

But yes xtianity in it's advanced stages completely screws people up in the spiritual and the physical I see this first hand. I used to hate him but not as much anymore as he's not done bad things to me. I guess xtianity makes people feel worthless and hopeless and I know this because medication doesn't help him it's a spiritual issue but not much I can do myself. My guardian said "he made his choice" meaning he has to live with it.

Doesn't mean it's not sad how people who really are not that bad of people on the inside can be a victim of a lie to the point he is.

It's all hopeless to me it looks like he is just going to get worse and worse. My mom is ok right now but she is obviously worried about him.

So yeah it's sad to devote your entire being and life to something that is a lie. Me I just hope he doesn't go to the some place and burn or be tortured in the end after all this. I am convinced Hell is a real place for those who were traitors against humanity or fell for the reptilian lies like those who are too far gone. I don't think any of the Demons will prevent him from going there. So I worry about him being tortured cause I honestly am an empathetic person and don't believe he deserves it and I hate the thought of someone who helped me with stuff being tortured in the worst ways beyond human imagining and feeling fear beyond what is even possible on earth and unspeakable torments.

That was my main worry for years about him I don't want to see him go to that place but not much I can do. I tried to when I was younger convince him of my beliefs since I didn't want him to go there but he didn't listen and even made fun of the stuff on chakras and stuff. So not much I can do.

Oh and yes he has a grey attached to his soul and controlling him somewhat as well just like me but it's a different grey. Also people in so many religions and from so many walks of life report seeing this place that I am convinced it's real. Don't just tell me it's not. It's not real in the way that the abrahamists say like for example you go there if you don't believe.

it's real in that it's a state a soul can reach in the afterlife after being degenerated to the point of no return and the reptilians love torturing people. They are convinced it's because they were not fully xtian or Muslim or whatever but This is something I used to worry about a lot.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Oh and yes he has a grey attached to his soul and controlling him somewhat as well just like me but it's a different grey. Also people in so many religions and from so many walks of life report seeing this place that I am convinced it's real. Don't just tell me it's not. It's not real in the way that the abrahamists say like for example you go there if you don't believe.

it's real in that it's a state a soul can reach in the afterlife after being degenerated to the point of no return and the reptilians love torturing people. They are convinced it's because they were not fully xtian or Muslim or whatever but This is something I used to worry about a lot.

Have you tried to do RTRs on him and yourself?

I believe the enemy gains access to this place through jewish energies since jews or abrahamics open the gateway to them. I've done RTRs on my family and they appear to get better temporarily and then the energies just return. I feel like any and all rituals here feel like cheap bandaids against enemy/negative energies/entites and then they just come back. No matter what I try the negative energies just return on me and and my family a day later or hours later. It may relate to my/their habits.

Your case seems directly related to greys. I'm not sure about mine since it seems all problems relating to me and my family are chart related, as they align precisely with what I read in my natal chart, so I'm doing rituals more tailored around managing those.

What exactly have you tried to do in getting rid of these 2 greys?

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Oh and yes he has a grey attached to his soul and controlling him somewhat as well just like me but it's a different grey. Also people in so many religions and from so many walks of life report seeing this place that I am convinced it's real. Don't just tell me it's not. It's not real in the way that the abrahamists say like for example you go there if you don't believe.

it's real in that it's a state a soul can reach in the afterlife after being degenerated to the point of no return and the reptilians love torturing people. They are convinced it's because they were not fully xtian or Muslim or whatever but This is something I used to worry about a lot.

I once a saw a grey behind me in my third eye. It may have been attached to me, or perhaps just behind me to influence me. I'll need to open my astral senses to fully assess the situation to then fix whatever the problem is.

 

[wotan namah]

Have you tried to do RTRs on him and yourself?

I believe the enemy gains access to this place through jewish energies since jews or abrahamics open the gateway to them. I've done RTRs on my family and they appear to get better temporarily and then the energies just return. I feel like any and all rituals here feel like cheap bandaids against enemy/negative energies/entites and then they just come back. No matter what I try the negative energies just return on me and and my family a day later or hours later. It may relate to my/their habits.

Your case seems directly related to greys. I'm not sure about mine since it seems all problems relating to me and my family are chart related, as they align precisely with what I read in my natal chart, so I'm doing rituals more tailored around managing those.

What exactly have you tried to do in getting rid of these 2 greys?

I have tried dissipating them and death energy on them but they seem so powerful it doesn't have an effect but to change the grey in the way it looks. I hink his anxiety attacks are directly related to the grey as the one near me gave me anxiety and panic attacks I thought at first it was Kundalini at the time but looking back it's the grey. Idk about depression or any of that hopelessness vibe I experienced depression before but not to the extent my dad has.

 

[Aquarius]

Man you and your grays...

 

[PILØT]

Man you and your grays...

i was thinking this

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

I know the woes your dad is going through. I went through the same cycle of depression, anxiety, and fear until I finally relinquished Christianity for good. There are still some lingering effects, but they are diminishing. In the case of your dad, I think it might be challenging to help him snap out of the mental prison he has found himself in due to his lifelong dedication to lies and illusion. Guilt, fear, hopelessness, and lack of self-worth are symptoms that manifest when one is heavily attached to enemy programs.

Man you and your grays...

We can use the terms "gray" and "alien" when describing foreign programs with destructive effects that are designed to cut us off from our ancestral beliefs and roots through suicidal and fear-based teachings (Christianity is an example of this), but, yeah, there is no need to obsess with such entities if your awareness and spiritual strength is on a high level.

 

[wotan namah]

I know the woes your dad is going through. I went through the same cycle of depression, anxiety, and fear until I finally relinquished Christianity for good. There are still some lingering effects, but they are diminishing. In the case of your dad, I think it might be challenging to help him snap out of the mental prison he has found himself in due to his lifelong dedication to lies and illusion. Guilt, fear, hopelessness, and lack of self-worth are symptoms that manifest when one is heavily attached to enemy programs.



We can use the terms "gray" and "alien" when describing foreign programs with destructive effects that are designed to cut us off from our ancestral beliefs and roots through suicidal and fear-based teachings (Christianity is an example of this), but, yeah, there is no need to obsess with such entities if your awareness and spiritual strength is on a high level.

When I was really young and in the xtian program I would feel hopeless and suicidal myself sometimes but never to the point I see my dad in now.

i was thinking this

Man you and your grays...

Ok the greys and also reptilians and angelic thoughtforms as well have caused quite the problems for me in my life. I speak the truth you can see and feel them on the astral. I know it's not good to obsess about them but entities can attach to the soul and need to be taken care of. I am glad some if not most of the thoughtforms appear to have been destroyed. I haven't had attacks from those in years but greys and reptilians still exist in the astral. I have a grey still attached to me and it's really hard to get rid of. There actually was a time when the greys tried to put a full mind control thing on me. They would interject in conversations I was having and force me to repeat and push dumb stuff. Like I want to be antisocial being dumb is cool self worth doesn't matter respect doesn't matter. Kind of low level things the point was I was being subverted and turned into pushing their agenda everywhere on earth. Don't hate on me or disregard me. I have gotten much better. I no longer push these agendas. What got me was the fact that the greys like to push being a slave as being free and I never until my guardian told me would have expected these teachings were from the enemy. I thought they were part of me. The greys kept showing me scenes from their planets too trying to convince me if I listened this would create paradise for everyone.

I bet some people are still fooled and do not realize they are being controlled or listening to a grey. These can get really powerful if the grey has enough control and turn someone into a living robot mindlessly repeating nonsense that helps no one.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

When I was really young and in the xtian program I would feel hopeless and suicidal myself sometimes but never to the point I see my dad in now.



Ok the greys and also reptilians and angelic thoughtforms as well have caused quite the problems for me in my life. I speak the truth you can see and feel them on the astral. I know it's not good to obsess about them but entities can attach to the soul and need to be taken care of. I am glad some if not most of the thoughtforms appear to have been destroyed. I haven't had attacks from those in years but greys and reptilians still exist in the astral. I have a grey still attached to me and it's really hard to get rid of. There actually was a time when the greys tried to put a full mind control thing on me. They would interject in conversations I was having and force me to repeat and push dumb stuff. Like I want to be antisocial being dumb is cool self worth doesn't matter respect doesn't matter. Kind of low level things the point was I was being subverted and turned into pushing their agenda everywhere on earth. Don't hate on me or disregard me. I have gotten much better. I no longer push these agendas. What got me was the fact that the greys like to push being a slave as being free and I never until my guardian told me would have expected these teachings were from the enemy. I thought they were part of me. The greys kept showing me scenes from their planets too trying to convince me if I listened this would create paradise for everyone.

I bet some people are still fooled and do not realize they are being controlled or listening to a grey. These can get really powerful if the grey has enough control and turn someone into a living robot mindlessly repeating nonsense that helps no one.

Hey, this might help you out. Someone mentioned before how they had a psychic friend who did a reading on a jew and then they got harrased/threatened by greys. SG Karnonnos suggested this following exercise to deal with the issue. I suggest you try this out and see if it helps in your situation:

IF the client was truly and genuinely Jewish - not that you assumed they were after this incident because your friend happened to see Greys - you need to do targeted FRTRs and imagine chains coming off your friend for about six days. Do an Aura of Protection on him and cleanse his aura softly as well.

If the client was not Jewish and you have no proof other than this experience (i.e. it was your assumption alone), you need to put positive and protective energy into his aura.

 

[Aquarius]

When I was really young and in the xtian program I would feel hopeless and suicidal myself sometimes but never to the point I see my dad in now.



Ok the greys and also reptilians and angelic thoughtforms as well have caused quite the problems for me in my life. I speak the truth you can see and feel them on the astral. I know it's not good to obsess about them but entities can attach to the soul and need to be taken care of. I am glad some if not most of the thoughtforms appear to have been destroyed. I haven't had attacks from those in years but greys and reptilians still exist in the astral. I have a grey still attached to me and it's really hard to get rid of. There actually was a time when the greys tried to put a full mind control thing on me. They would interject in conversations I was having and force me to repeat and push dumb stuff. Like I want to be antisocial being dumb is cool self worth doesn't matter respect doesn't matter. Kind of low level things the point was I was being subverted and turned into pushing their agenda everywhere on earth. Don't hate on me or disregard me. I have gotten much better. I no longer push these agendas. What got me was the fact that the greys like to push being a slave as being free and I never until my guardian told me would have expected these teachings were from the enemy. I thought they were part of me. The greys kept showing me scenes from their planets too trying to convince me if I listened this would create paradise for everyone.

I bet some people are still fooled and do not realize they are being controlled or listening to a grey. These can get really powerful if the grey has enough control and turn someone into a living robot mindlessly repeating nonsense that helps no one.

It's 20 years that you put the blame on greys and thoughtforms. Might as well grow up and take responsibility for your life.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

When I was really young and in the xtian program I would feel hopeless and suicidal myself sometimes but never to the point I see my dad in now.



Ok the greys and also reptilians and angelic thoughtforms as well have caused quite the problems for me in my life. I speak the truth you can see and feel them on the astral. I know it's not good to obsess about them but entities can attach to the soul and need to be taken care of. I am glad some if not most of the thoughtforms appear to have been destroyed. I haven't had attacks from those in years but greys and reptilians still exist in the astral. I have a grey still attached to me and it's really hard to get rid of. There actually was a time when the greys tried to put a full mind control thing on me. They would interject in conversations I was having and force me to repeat and push dumb stuff. Like I want to be antisocial being dumb is cool self worth doesn't matter respect doesn't matter. Kind of low level things the point was I was being subverted and turned into pushing their agenda everywhere on earth. Don't hate on me or disregard me. I have gotten much better. I no longer push these agendas. What got me was the fact that the greys like to push being a slave as being free and I never until my guardian told me would have expected these teachings were from the enemy. I thought they were part of me. The greys kept showing me scenes from their planets too trying to convince me if I listened this would create paradise for everyone.

I bet some people are still fooled and do not realize they are being controlled or listening to a grey. These can get really powerful if the grey has enough control and turn someone into a living robot mindlessly repeating nonsense that helps no one.

If that's true, I already told you in the other post how to solve it: work on it, don't obsess over it, and focus your attention on the Gods and on elevating yourself.

 

[serpentwalker666]

It's 20 years that you put the blame on greys and thoughtforms. Might as well grow up and take responsibility for your life.

Past a certain point these things are like space cockroaches and just a nuisance. They aren't to be focused on so deeply like wotan namah is doing, as this just draws them and their corrosive foul energy closer.

They are just a cancerous tumor that should be eternally shunned.

 

[Devilinside]

When I was really young and in the xtian program I would feel hopeless and suicidal myself sometimes but never to the point I see my dad in now.



Ok the greys and also reptilians and angelic thoughtforms as well have caused quite the problems for me in my life. I speak the truth you can see and feel them on the astral. I know it's not good to obsess about them but entities can attach to the soul and need to be taken care of. I am glad some if not most of the thoughtforms appear to have been destroyed. I haven't had attacks from those in years but greys and reptilians still exist in the astral. I have a grey still attached to me and it's really hard to get rid of. There actually was a time when the greys tried to put a full mind control thing on me. They would interject in conversations I was having and force me to repeat and push dumb stuff. Like I want to be antisocial being dumb is cool self worth doesn't matter respect doesn't matter. Kind of low level things the point was I was being subverted and turned into pushing their agenda everywhere on earth. Don't hate on me or disregard me. I have gotten much better. I no longer push these agendas. What got me was the fact that the greys like to push being a slave as being free and I never until my guardian told me would have expected these teachings were from the enemy. I thought they were part of me. The greys kept showing me scenes from their planets too trying to convince me if I listened this would create paradise for everyone.

I bet some people are still fooled and do not realize they are being controlled or listening to a grey. These can get really powerful if the grey has enough control and turn someone into a living robot mindlessly repeating nonsense that helps no one.

For those impressionable though your over worry to it can be infectious, and while it is up to the personal to ultimately walk down the path you've helped set, I doubt it would bring good karma to you for publicly obsess over it.

Our most Mighty Sanctified Clergy has told us the enemy has lost so at this point https://www.templeofzeus.org/Prayer.php ; https://www.templeofzeus.org/Returning_Curses.php are what you need to focus on outside of Holy God's Rituals. If you nonstop think about it though you open yourself up and when bad things happen you won't be saved because it's to teach you to stop on your own. Fear will ruin you by your own two hands.

Let's say it is true than stop focusing so much or preaching fear but rather of strength. Speak of your wins not the losses or fears you have. Even if not true publicly what one does affects everyone because of those who might listen. The more authority you have the more careful you have to act. Look to the Most High and Esteem amongst us and how few their words are.

We also always filter everything through ourselves and due to your worry all will be clouded by it due to the lack of serenity. Even if some how a vision came through you pay it no mind and don't give it a care. Even if you see monstrous awful things so what because they have no baring on you nor our world over more unless you bring them forth. At some point you need to learn to trust the cycle and just give in to the flow. Maybe our world will end up in ruin and maybe everyone you know will burn but so long as you are true you will be safe and that's all that matters at the end of the day for you.

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[Silverfire]

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