Is there a second "cold" kundalini?

The feeling of "cold / cool" is just water element energy and emotions that move and awaken.
At the front and back more on the surface there is the bladder meridian which is of the water element there is no second kundalini as if one were not enough, if you have cooled the energy on purpose it reveals that you are afraid of the effects of the kundalini, while if you have not done so it reveals that the energy you have moved moves your emotions and your energetic self-awareness which is still to be improved, a person who has activated kundalini is aware of his transformation and this knowledge gives him security and lack of fear to ascend with as few problems as possible.
What is true and confusing is that the bladder meridians flow in the same path as Ida and Pingala but on the surface, Ida and Pingala are very deep.

That is just the Ida channel. See the Twin Serpent meditation. It has nothing to do directly with the Kundalini Serpent, that rises by the Shusumna (Spine) channel.

This is not the case but...

Often when the Kundalini is stimulated, due to blockages, the energy gets stuck in the other 2 channels, one at a time. When it does get stuck, depending on the level of manifestation, you get in very big trouble. The Ida channel when activated by the overall spike of the Kundalini bioelectricity, your leg gets very very cold. Ice cold, there's nothing to debate about or doubt. Feeling cold somewhere is very far away from feeling pure paralyzing ice, which is terrifying.

On the opposite fire Pingala, that is very similar to a burning fire, it feels as such - fire. The Shusumna is pure lava. The front extensions in themselves need a downward movement of the energy from the crown chakra. Rising energy by the front is dubious and dangerous. The rising of the energy be it from the legs or Serpent is to be by the back extensions up to the crown and down to the base again by the front ones. Its all on the site.

You feel "lighter and cold" when you do that because you dissipate the energy as you cannot do what you want, and if you succeed you'll do something else that you're not aware off. If you want to rise the sexual energy and not by the back extensions, which is very hard, you'll need to do it by the main chakras and have knowledge and control of the body and energy. This is something that takes not months but maybe years to control properly.

The "thick and hot" no matter where you feel it, indicates a blockage, that's why it's thick and magnetic. If the blockage is cleared, at most you'll fell the magnetic propeties more by the radiant nature of it.

It's all fun and games but when you develop a little control and discernment and you do stupid things with energy it leads to big downfalls, time waste and health problems. Every chakra is in direct influence of specific glands and organs. Only by stressing some organs leads to bad time, but imagine frying your nerves and the tissue of your organs.

When it comes to Kundalini there is no experiment to do, if any experiment is done its the Serpent on you not the other way around. This is exactly like most people are confused about, like the new agers that confuse emotions and "positive thinking" with spirituality. Feeling a little cold or burning sensation means nothing. Confirmation bias and other mental limitations with confused and most often non-knowdlege leads not to nothing but minus nothing. You'll be blown away by the consequences of just cleaning the aura and chakras and slow empowering, and that is perfect, lets leave the sacred Serpent out of mental glorification.

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There is no 'cold' serpent to my knowledge, the kundalini serpent is a fiery energy generator that cycles through the soul, it is of the essence of everlasting life, the 666, the sun, therefore it is of fire and this is why it feels like almost painful hot lead rising through with a proper ascension.

I'm afraid if you're feeling 'cold' from this serpent then it sounds rather clued in to me that it's not the serpent you're rising and is likely just a build up of directed energy focus that you're guiding along your chakras, this can feel like anything you intend or believe it to and it can be very convincing as the serpent, but one should know to discern truth from fantasy.

It can take years and years up to a decade or more (unless there are certain key factors from past lives) to befit the soul and body properly for the ascension of the kundalini serpent and then from there the next effort and step is keeping it risen because it doesn't just 'click' into place permanently. If that was the case we never would have lost our risen state from ancient past to begin with, it takes further consistent effort to maintain a risen state to hold it there perpetually and the kundalini has the potential to recede again which may happen the first few times or so.

There's a reason the Magnum Opus and all that combined is called The Great Work, it takes effort.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts everyone.

I explained a lot of what I was doing in a post that wasn't approved of. Im overloading the kundalini pathway up the spine with energy in order to speed up the kundalini ascension. Im cooling the overloaded energy as it gets very hot. I do feel the kundalini raise with the overload and Ive gotten some very overwhelming results later as well.

After I cleared the blocks in my throat chakra, I asked the kundalini to raise (it did) and then I created a circuit from the front connection to the base chakra and circulated the overload a few times. I didn't feel any symptoms other than the heat at first, I continued up to the 6th chakra. The 6th was very easy to pass through and I didn't have any problems.

After about a day or two, I started noticing I was having panic attacks, and that I was always having them but I thought it was normal. My awareness of these panic attacks made them even more severe. I almost quit my job because of this, and Ive been there for 1.5 years.

I believe the kundalini is an extension of the subconscious. It's not a seperate entity as far as I know. The subconscious does feel seperate at times. One of the other syptoms of this experiment was that the kundalini/subconscious actually made it known that it doesn't like to take orders from me. I apologized and corrected my behaviour.

If anyone would like to discuss this in more detail, Im open to it. Im 90% sure my experiment is working, I was only unsure about the coolness I felt in the front extensions. I may create a channel similar to the kundalini for the front extensions if there is any benefit in that.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts everyone.

I explained a lot of what I was doing in a post that wasn't approved of. Im overloading the kundalini pathway up the spine with energy in order to speed up the kundalini ascension. Im cooling the overloaded energy as it gets very hot. I do feel the kundalini raise with the overload and Ive gotten some very overwhelming results later as well.

After I cleared the blocks in my throat chakra, I asked the kundalini to raise (it did) and then I created a circuit from the front connection to the base chakra and circulated the overload a few times. I didn't feel any symptoms other than the heat at first, I continued up to the 6th chakra. The 6th was very easy to pass through and I didn't have any problems.

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Mate you're delusional as fuck, you're are light years away from actually raising the kundalini based on your maturity, delusions and spiritual advancement. You are better off starting to be more grounded and not use drugs if you really want to advance and become a proper Zevism.

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You're going to destroy yourself and fry your system.

In your evident delusions it seems you've been trying to do this for a while and it's already messed you up a bit. Take the advice of those who have been advancing on this path for years, you need to stop this before you waste a perfectly good lifetime with a fatal result.

If you don't listen you'll pay the consequences and not just physically but spiritually. When severe mental distress, confusion and disorientation with weary vision hits you, you better recognize this as severe warning sign number one and stop immediately and smarten up. I'm serious.

That is just the Ida channel. See the Twin Serpent meditation. It has nothing to do directly with the Kundalini Serpent, that rises by the Shusumna (Spine) channel.

This is not the case but...

Often when the Kundalini is stimulated, due to blockages, the energy gets stuck in the other 2 channels, one at a time. When it does get stuck, depending on the level of manifestation, you get in very big trouble. The Ida channel when activated by the overall spike of the Kundalini bioelectricity, your leg gets very very cold. Ice cold, there's nothing to debate about or doubt. Feeling cold somewhere is very far away from feeling pure paralyzing ice, which is terrifying.

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I'm revisiting this because for a while now I thought this was some kind of attack, but was lead to the colour red and the pingala to figure out some kind of balance and I've been trying to sort things out from there. I will state from experience that yes, the ida channel is absolute paralyzingly ice cold to the point I've crumpled to the floor or had to make an emergency retreat to a hot shower (Which still didn't help the near freezing of my internal organs), and here I thought I was somehow doing severe cryokinesis upon myself with lack of control or something. On the other hand the pingala is very hot and absolutely saturates the body with a strong glowing heat, when my mind stopped focusing wherever the heck it was focusing in activating the ida like that, the pingala took over with that immense heat warming me up. I never did any of this stuff to myself on purpose, rather my subconscious directed to places without my consent somehow and triggered it. I realize now such temperature events were not attacks, because yes they were incredibly severe, so you can't really blame me for thinking such.

I do notice an imbalance in regards to my pingala, my ida seems incredibly dominant, very powerful from the left nostril in the sun and moon breath while it feels like my pingala is weakened or blocked (This has been where pretty much all enemy psychic attacks have manifested in taunting me among many other cruelties and attacks with fears and such, upon the right side of my psychic centres. On the other hand, all demon communications have been on the left side of my psychic centres where they've been guiding me to things that have been helping me greatly, sure it makes it easier to tell what is what in regards to trust but I'd much rather make both channels safe and secure from infiltration).

Would a weakened ida or pingala actually mean the enemy has an easier time infiltrating on that side of the weakened channel? It seems to make sense at least. This was why I was told to use red (of the pingala) to fight off the attacks, which actually work and it feels like it balances something out in my soul too and this can come with a relieving feeling.

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I know exactly what you detail brother, I have a lot of similar experiences of the same nature and causes.

My understanding came from the same doubts and incentives I had over months to a more accurate picture lately. Which finds it's signifying in the nature of our own ability to discern and become aware.

I assume, from my own experiences that is, that at a certain point in the day, but mostly at night you notice a difference in atmosphere, a sudden alternation of senses that in a couple of timings come to fruition in different ways. The hearing centers open up, from noise statics to hearing aliens talking, up to strange noises coming to specific channels, sometimes with disorientation which feel sometimes as drifting off with the whole body. Spinning sensations etc. Wakefulness in sleep and watchfulness, and an overall a heavy presence of consciousness seemingly outside of you, which is magnetic at times. Strange visions, full senses visions, future seeing, attacks, and uncomfortable tensions, like in between realms. The astral body being uncomfortably present.

If you could notice, does your nostrils are open both? Or one is lacking the other? Similarly, try to notice if you feel energy pooling in your feet and hands. If you turn your attention to the throat do you feel to cough? Or if when you are full of energy do you sneeze? Discomfort in specific positions, electric stabs in feet and hands. All of these symptoms happen to me when I am very unbalanced and have spikes of bioelectricity.

If you happen to have an unbalanced phase and with the above sensory explosion, it would mean to me that you either benefit from rising and cultivating your sexual energy or your Serpent is active and working in your system.

Doing too much spiritual warfare counts as well, as it can create very big spikes of energy from which you can be stolen into without control. Unlocking and cleaning of the soul sometimes happen to be felt as a catapult into action.

All in all, here is a great thing and an amazing thing. In every meditation, working and spiritual experience, all that encompasses activity to spiritual goals are subjected and under the enormous requirement which is: Control.

Doing yoga, mantras, meditating, all are the extensions and endings in themselves that compose control, control over our subtle energies, our centers, nadis, mental, emotions, controlling the inner universe that in mirroring transforms in controlling the outer.

So the beginning and the end are everything the concept of "control" is.

Now the first control is over the material, which is the masculine aspect, we control the fire and mechanical aspect of our soul and body first. The Pingala. Discipline, routine, wakefulness, action, alertness, work, spark, daytime - all these actions and realms forged together in the aim of spiritual action which is the first part of all yoga.

The control of the masculine instructs and gives a platform of opening and flourishing of the feminine. Later by the control of the feminine, we control everything that is and isn't, which is the authority and presidential nature over the matter.

The feminine aspect is the opposite and the water aspect of all things, which finds itself in the opposite direction which is sleep, comatose feelings, depths, the subconscious, absorption, contraction, and indefinite action. All comparations can be endlessly made, but that's the overall simplistic picture.

So when the feminine part of the soul wakes up, and is amplified and expands, it's own nature will be on the platform of unconsciousness, which is opposite to the memory and focused more on present reality, of experience and indefinite expression, limitless by the cognitive discourse of the logical part of the brain.

A lot of the visions, experiences, feelings, and apparent nightmares, are seeds and the nature of your own subconscious, which when finally after enough cultivation of energy and advancement comes to be experienced by the consciousness in a more tangible and remembering way. The nature of this is of course veiled in great depth, as the chaotic sea is starting to be expressed from the "Pandora box" that is your own aspects of the soul. Here lies the beautiful nature of our knowledge and power, because from this opening, you are to experience these "pourings" in their full form, and by the power of your own deeds of void meditation and control over the self, to pierce by, understand and in the finality to control this state. Coming to control which is your own mechanisms and own flowers you are almost a godly being. The knowledge of the subconscious, when united with the conscious by the Serpent, creates the everlasting perception of the fabric of the world, which first started in understanding in your own fabric, and inner world.

All of these happen, and of course, the enemy is there to make it worse, and harder. But the only thing they can't do is stop you from stepping and letting yourself leap into the unknown, which is your own garden that only needs a light shed on to have a better understanding. I never closed for example my chakras, but instead, I always project Satans Sigil onto them when I need comfort in different situations. If I close them, I stand extremely uncomfortable in a suspended void, which is counterproductive to me.

Experiencing the same, I would definitely say to you that the wild and uncontrollable aspects of the psychic centers have nothing to do directly with your individual aspects and soul if you have problems or not at the heart or throat. This is a stage of waking up the inner power, that comes and needs to be accommodated to. Being overwhelming is it's nature, as it is something to work up to that place of sensory perception, and that is a natural state of being. Cleaning and sliding out the foreign interference, along with acquiring control over it is the aim. The subconscious is very instinctive and like a lion in its expansion. One thing I noticed the witnessing my own soul, is that the word "nature" is a satisfactory comparison. Nature is wild, powerful, at times harsh and merciless, and other times full of compassion and bliss. The aquarian quality is of the correct rebellion, an uprising of the self in face of "un-identification", detachment ( ie. Oppositional circumstances). Be detached, calm, and with clarity, in witnessing whatever with the use of the blue color. I used the blue color a lot of times to sleep against merciless psychic attacks.

I would've also mentioned that my guardian Anubis, instructed me to use the Varuna mantra, mantra of water, of Neptune, to specifically clean the higher chakras. But the mantra empowers and catapults extremely the psychic centers, which would be not alright for you, and it is a very unnecessary working for most of the people, especially being a Neptune force. It happened to me to be in need of it, as I had a debilitating water element in my sacral, which had almost fatal consequences on my health. The idea is the same, which is that you need to clean the feminine aspects of the soul, and if not, accommodate this phase of change.
Working with water is a higher step of soul working and alchemy.

To use and create water, I observed that you could try to focus on the 7th chakra, and try to pull down ice energy to the 3rd eye. The 3rd eye should open, sometimes so powerful you could think it is fire instead of ice energy, but it is so icy that telling the nature is hard. Feeling the 3rd eye, a cold breeze and cold airy elemental should be a manifestation of the forehead, which will go down by the eyes and face. Focusing on this, try to pull it down to the throat and eventually heart. The heart chakra when activated by cold energy, opens up the pectoral with the same energy, that will feel like something very protective and self-sustaining. (even if at times would feel paralyzing).
This happened to me involuntarily, and in an attempt to recreate I succeeded, but there needs to be carefulness to not let the energy static, as it can be potentially very dangerous. Don't know for sure the whole mechanism and related to advice on it, but I think you are responsible enough to judge for yourself, as I don't want to give unreasonable advice.

Another way I use water is by far the very simple image. Creating a place full of water, engulf myself with water, and use the breath to inhale either in points or whole-body water.

You could also develop the ability of this, by evoking in external objects water. For example, I used many times with success water to cool down very quickly hot food, and at the same time program and " bless" the food to nourish me. I simply visualize the food underwater, and then quickly its form frozen. As well as when drinking water, you could illuminate it by visualization, and imprint in it happy memories and whatever. It makes a very big difference, which is first in changing the taste of it. "Blessed" water tastes so much better.

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I wanted to ask you, as a trivial question, as I was very interested and wondering if happened to others. The gods to me spoke almost always in the center of my head, rarely on the sides, as I hear a lot of static noise on the sides. Always my communication with the Gods is translated into my native language, which sometimes can end up funny by the astral interferences. But I noticed that, when the enemy spoke to me, it rarely got translated to my native language, and I heard alien languages which are very disturbing to say at least. Also, the voice of the enemy is always distorted in some form or another. Did you experience something like that before?