Is the church of satan in the uk that of spiritual satanism

[Luca Rossini]

Hi,

Sorry if this has been discussed allready but the search tool
Was not working (error 300). I live in the uk and have been
Quite intensively researching the information on the jos
Website. I have been finding that i agreed with all of the
Information i have found so far and being someone who
Previously hated all religions this has been quite an
Experience for me.

I was wondering if the church of satan in the uk hold the
Same beleifs as jos in the us. Its just that there history
Timeline goes back to the movement in the 60's which
I thought was meant to be not the same as spiritual
Satanism in that it doesnt recognise demons as real
Beings.

I mean no offense by my question to either group i just
Couldnt deterfmine if they are one or the other.
I will never believe anything without proof and whilst
Solid evidence has not been forthcoming (mainly because
I havent attempted anything yet). I have been noticing
Some things which could be coincidence but have a low
Probability of being so.

The demon of my birthday is gusion, his charachterf of
Being polite but blunt and to the point is the kind of
Elder i have allways respected. His plant is aloe and i
Have all my life only ever owned 1 plant that i take with
Me from place to place whenever i move house. Its an
Aloe a friend gave to me when i first left home. In
Every place ive ever worked i end up because i myself
Am very protective of those around me with a large
Group of loyal people at my side.

Do demons that cover a birthdate hold any sway over
People born then? Or could it have made a difference
That my whole life ive hated churches, been intimidated
By preists and thought every rediculous judgement
Of me given by any member of any religion to be
An open advertisement of their own stupidity.

Like i said could all be circumstantial and wouldnt change
My opinion at this point if it was. It is difficult for me to
Proceed right now as my partner (and mother of my child)
Is not going to be pleased if i carried out any ritual. So i
Need to further my study into this without the aid of any
Demons. Hence the question about the cos in the uk.

Thankyou again for all your help.

 

[daitsun88]

No, it could be Laveyan or Theistic Satanism. There are "Satanists" who do believe that Satan and the Gods are real, but they are the same as xianity describes them and that the xian god exists. Those are not Spiritual Satanists either. If they don't know who Enki is they're not Spiritual Satanists.

There's ONA-based Traditional Satanism groups in the UK I think. They're not spiritual Satanists but are interesting and their teachings are compatible with ours.

About your last statement, there is no interfering of the Gods when you are together with other people. It is a completely personal thing, the Gods don't push or force or reveal themselves to others. You can simply keep this secret. But anyway its your choice.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "urielventris83" <urielventris83@... wrote:

Hi,

Sorry if this has been discussed allready but the search tool
Was not working (error 300). I live in the uk and have been
Quite intensively researching the information on the jos
Website. I have been finding that i agreed with all of the
Information i have found so far and being someone who
Previously hated all religions this has been quite an
Experience for me.

I was wondering if the church of satan in the uk hold the
Same beleifs as jos in the us. Its just that there history
Timeline goes back to the movement in the 60's which
I thought was meant to be not the same as spiritual
Satanism in that it doesnt recognise demons as real
Beings.

I mean no offense by my question to either group i just
Couldnt deterfmine if they are one or the other.
I will never believe anything without proof and whilst
Solid evidence has not been forthcoming (mainly because
I havent attempted anything yet). I have been noticing
Some things which could be coincidence but have a low
Probability of being so.

The demon of my birthday is gusion, his charachterf of
Being polite but blunt and to the point is the kind of
Elder i have allways respected. His plant is aloe and i
Have all my life only ever owned 1 plant that i take with
Me from place to place whenever i move house. Its an
Aloe a friend gave to me when i first left home. In
Every place ive ever worked i end up because i myself
Am very protective of those around me with a large
Group of loyal people at my side.

Do demons that cover a birthdate hold any sway over
People born then? Or could it have made a difference
That my whole life ive hated churches, been intimidated
By preists and thought every rediculous judgement
Of me given by any member of any religion to be
An open advertisement of their own stupidity.

Like i said could all be circumstantial and wouldnt change
My opinion at this point if it was. It is difficult for me to
Proceed right now as my partner (and mother of my child)
Is not going to be pleased if i carried out any ritual. So i
Need to further my study into this without the aid of any
Demons. Hence the question about the cos in the uk.

Thankyou again for all your help.

 

[Luca Rossini]

Thankyou for your help, i can see that sooner or later i will run
Out of other research material. When that happens i will need
To try something more practical to progress. I appreciate your
Advice about the nature of secrecy with demons but i do not
Keep secrets from my fiancee. I could hide it from the rest of
The world including my son but i couldnt hide it from her.

When this time finally comes she will have to accept it as much
As i would any religious decision of hers.

Thankyou for all your help however, i will stay clear of the
Uk based church of satan.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "daitsun88" <daitsun88@... wrote:

No, it could be Laveyan or Theistic Satanism. There are "Satanists" who do believe that Satan and the Gods are real, but they are the same as xianity describes them and that the xian god exists. Those are not Spiritual Satanists either. If they don't know who Enki is they're not Spiritual Satanists.

There's ONA-based Traditional Satanism groups in the UK I think. They're not spiritual Satanists but are interesting and their teachings are compatible with ours.

About your last statement, there is no interfering of the Gods when you are together with other people. It is a completely personal thing, the Gods don't push or force or reveal themselves to others. You can simply keep this secret. But anyway its your choice.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "urielventris83" <urielventris83@ wrote:

Hi,

Sorry if this has been discussed allready but the search tool
Was not working (error 300). I live in the uk and have been
Quite intensively researching the information on the jos
Website. I have been finding that i agreed with all of the
Information i have found so far and being someone who
Previously hated all religions this has been quite an
Experience for me.

I was wondering if the church of satan in the uk hold the
Same beleifs as jos in the us. Its just that there history
Timeline goes back to the movement in the 60's which
I thought was meant to be not the same as spiritual
Satanism in that it doesnt recognise demons as real
Beings.

I mean no offense by my question to either group i just
Couldnt deterfmine if they are one or the other.
I will never believe anything without proof and whilst
Solid evidence has not been forthcoming (mainly because
I havent attempted anything yet). I have been noticing
Some things which could be coincidence but have a low
Probability of being so.

The demon of my birthday is gusion, his charachterf of
Being polite but blunt and to the point is the kind of
Elder i have allways respected. His plant is aloe and i
Have all my life only ever owned 1 plant that i take with
Me from place to place whenever i move house. Its an
Aloe a friend gave to me when i first left home. In
Every place ive ever worked i end up because i myself
Am very protective of those around me with a large
Group of loyal people at my side.

Do demons that cover a birthdate hold any sway over
People born then? Or could it have made a difference
That my whole life ive hated churches, been intimidated
By preists and thought every rediculous judgement
Of me given by any member of any religion to be
An open advertisement of their own stupidity.

Like i said could all be circumstantial and wouldnt change
My opinion at this point if it was. It is difficult for me to
Proceed right now as my partner (and mother of my child)
Is not going to be pleased if i carried out any ritual. So i
Need to further my study into this without the aid of any
Demons. Hence the question about the cos in the uk.

Thankyou again for all your help.