Is Satan a snake like Ananta and Vasuki?

[DreamWolf]

Popped into my head when vibrating ΣΑΤΑΝΑΣ, and saying the name is a chill inducing whole new experience...!!!

I'm typing this literally with my hands trembling and my whole body shivering!

(Granted am stoned, I do it before sleep to help me wind down aye, makes people all the more enthusiastic about stuffs... )

 

[SageofZeus]

Popped into my head when vibrating ΣΑΤΑΝΑΣ, and saying the name is a chill inducing whole new experience...!!!

I'm typing this literally with my hands trembling and my whole body shivering!

(Granted am stoned, I do it before sleep to help me wind down aye, makes people all the more enthusiastic about stuffs... )

"Pass me the doobie dude, I'm getting wasted", is that what you think we are here?

All you're doing is jerking around with your life and allowing yourself to be manipulated by lies and mind conditioning. To say nothing of the fact that it has far ranging health effects when done long term.

We here at Temple of Zeus commune with each other and the Gods to advance spiritually with knowledge, practice and dedication to Zeus. We open and energize our souls to achieve a higher level of awareness (the natural way). This is done with diligence and hard work because we know and see the undeniable results in our daily lives.

My advice is to get your head out of your ass, and start thinking about just how much better your life could be if you just read the truth - the results will blow you away!

Temple of Zeus

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

Don't smoke weed. It's not spiritual and it will cause harm to your mind and body.

Try Hatha yoga and meditate on the energy buzz throughout your body, afterwards. It's better than any drug and benefits you in everyway.

 

[Inquisitor⥀Veritas]

As someone who smoked weed for years, among doing other substances it just leads to illusion and when one has these wonderful experiences because of the effects of the meditations it will lead you to be confused about if what you experience while meditating is from meditating or from the substance. It is all just a nice little synthetic trick, we have in us all we need if we want to feel good. I have had some intense moments mixing weed and meditation and not good intense either, scary intense. it is not worth it, you are stronger than the substance. Now granted it will not be easy at first in my case i was so used to it that life felt empty for some time because of my prolonged use, this is my fault though. The only real way to get serious on this path and advance the soul is to be sober, anything else and you are just deluding yourself. Being blunt is necessary, you are a Zevist soul. Not like Most of humanity on this planet, you have great potential and it must be realized. Don't waste it any longer just because you feel "good" from it.

 

[NoCheerios]

Don't smoke weed. It's not spiritual and it will cause harm to your mind and body.

Try Hatha yoga and meditate on the energy buzz throughout your body, afterwards. It's better than any drug and benefits you in everyway.

is it okay to do psychdelics like shrooms?

I havent but was looking into it...

 

[Henu the Great]

Practicing trance will help you wind down in a healthy way. Cannabis usage will slowly destroy your health instead.

 

[Umun]

Yes, a symbol and sacred animal of Satan is the snake. No, He is not a snake. Sleep disorders or just disordered sleep can be regulated in a lot of ways.

SWP

 

[DreamWolf]

Don't smoke weed. It's not spiritual and it will cause harm to your mind and body.

Try Hatha yoga and meditate on the energy buzz throughout your body, afterwards. It's better than any drug and benefits you in everyway.

Yeah, that's the sucky part, I haven't gotten into asana containing yoga systems because of hella joint pain, the reason I do weed before bed too... MSM powder, and before I tried that, Niacinamide, fixed it beautifully years ago, but back then I did tons of supplements and they helped me a lot with my health!

Tried just MSM a couple times lately (with vitamin C, needed for absorption) but it seems to really upset my system...

I went with no weed for almost 4 years until recently, started it again to help fall asleep with achy joints and hella depression insomnia, it does help a ton... Decided to get back to it cause I was a practicing Krishna devotee and although it's one of the big no-nos, at the branch I belonged to, it was acceptable medicinally, it's a staple Ayurvedic herb apparently aye...

But, I do know it's hindering... Being of raja guna, it still ends up tamasic eventually, and an elder devotee once told me it hinders spiritual evolution because it ties us to Earth so powerfully? Ending up keeping one stuck to material energies therefore I guess aye...

Honestly, it helps my focus with astral endeavors a lot, but I did ask Father Satan to send me proper guidance about what exactly to do with it, I intend to start a thread about it here aye...

On trance state, I still SUCK at holding focus through meditations, another thing I wanted to start a thread about to ask... I haven't even attempted trance so far, because am still stuck with trying the basic chakra cleansing here and there aye...

My problem is that I don't feel faith in my efforts! I hate visualizing meditations because all I feel is doubt about doing it right... I don't feel the energies very good or at all, mostly really, aye... Weed seems to help, but not with the meditations I try to do...

When I do things myself, astral efforts, meditations, energy sensing, the stuffs that feel natural to me, those do go nicely... But meditations that don't feel like them, I just don't know what am doing wrong...

Granted, once I successfully achieved sleep paralysis inducing trance, years ago!

The elevator method, mentally repeating "deep, deeper, deepest"... Scared me, had sleep paralysis twice before that randomly through those years... It was an effort to get out of body, which years later I successfully achieved multiple times, never needing paralysis to go with it aye...

Another problem is basic time and energy management issues... When my daughter is at school, busy day hours, hard to get into the state of mind to meditate... Before bed if she's already asleep, by then I'm way too exhausted aye...

As of now I'm working hard to try and do something about my constant exhaustion... (I was always extremely low energy physically, and the only thing that ever helped was receiving pleasant attention from males... I used to always be the only female surrounded with a buncha dudes, always just having hella male friends... Most always I always had just one female best friend too... I ended up guessing over the years that am a Tantric vampire, I hear that actual vampires are people born with very slow energy regeneration and end up taking it from external sources, unfortunately the only thing that ever worked is getting it from male affection or male pleasure, but I've become extremely demi sexual and am a total hermit for years now, so am running on fumes for years now aye... *sigh*)

I did hear that Hatha Yoga would help with my Yang deficiency too, and I did hear that one doesn't even have to worry about correct asana positions and flexibility, it's okay to just attempt best with what body allows and I even heard that actually one should always wiggle with asanas, cause depending on individual anatomy, it's one angle or another that will hit that sweet spot or perfect energy flow, so the wiggling allows to try angles and energy ends up flowing with one or another aye ahaha...

My question would be if anyone wishes to elaborate a little, which would be more important to work on first, getting the hang of chakra cleansing or Hatha Yoga?

I've been considering Tai Chi, but damn am feeling wiped out most every time even with proper sleep ugh! (And coffee makes me jittery, I do drink it to get stuff done though aye... *sigh*)

I just don't for example wanna start 40 day or 6 month program until I do the basic meditations (chakra cleansing and aura of protection), properly go where I can feel them too aye... Or maybe I just should and hope for the best?

Right now my main priority is to figure out how not to feel wiped out constantly aye... Without ending up with male interactions... I mean as in, I don't wanna be dependent on that anymore, I trust that Father Satan is gonna help me figure all this out the right way, just like He always helps everyone like you all too aye... *sigh*

I'm apparently experiencing a bit of energy pickup these past few days, guessing it's His Mercy and the Gods', it happens frequently, but always ends up waning after a few days or a week or two, and I hate it... I just want enough energy each day to make headways both spiritually and in the material aspects of life aye... *sigh*

Would Hatha Yoga or Tai Chi help better to start off with? I wonder...

 

[DreamWolf]

Practicing trance will help you wind down in a healthy way. Cannabis usage will slowly destroy your health instead.

Sorry I forgot to quote thine post when talking about these things above...

Would you wish to tell me the negative effects if you don't mind? Also, in light of things in my previous post above, how do you think I should go about learning a trance state? It's exactly what, I can tell, my system needs to work similar and even better than how weed helps with focus on astral endeavors, but my lack of energy effects my focus so much when it comes to trying to achieve meditative stuffs, it frustrates me to no end aye... I too don't wanna be dragged down by the tamasic effects of weed aye... *sigh* (Like, sometimes I get up to pee and then hit my vape pens, one each from THC and CBD, to help me fall back asleep, but end up meditating instead, my way aye, staying awake... And hours later it's a huge exhaustion crash because of the weed wearing out... Starting a day like that suuuuuucks! )

 

[WiseDragon]

Whatever 'benefits' you think weed is providing you, Meditation will prove to be much better in all of those areas, and you won't be experiencing any negative side effects. You will just have to go through that detox phase that can be difficult and you will need to gain some experience to reach the level I'm talking about, but the bliss and inner peace that Meditation will give you will surpass any drug by far.

 

[Henu the Great]

Whatever 'benefits' you think weed is providing you, Meditation will prove to be much better in all of those areas, and you won't be experiencing any negative side effects. You will just have to go through that detox phase that can be difficult and you will need to gain some experience to reach the level I'm talking about, but the bliss and inner peace that Meditation will give you will surpass any drug by far.

With physical exercise in the mix, the detox is not even that difficult.

 

[destroyer]

Popped into my head when vibrating ΣΑΤΑΝΑΣ, and saying the name is a chill inducing whole new experience...!!!

I'm typing this literally with my hands trembling and my whole body shivering!

(Granted am stoned, I do it before sleep to help me wind down aye, makes people all the more enthusiastic about stuffs... )

How can you be so relaxed when you meditate and you're high?
I can't stand this state.
After smoking weed the next day, I recover after 100 sit-ups and 15 minutes of yoga.
And during exercise I almost want to cry ().

 

[DreamWolf]

Whatever 'benefits' you think weed is providing you, Meditation will prove to be much better in all of those areas, and you won't be experiencing any negative side effects. You will just have to go through that detox phase that can be difficult and you will need to gain some experience to reach the level I'm talking about, but the bliss and inner peace that Meditation will give you will surpass any drug by far.

Ahhh, yesssss, that's exactly what I aim to achieve, thankfully I never had an issue quitting things cold turkey whatsoever, whatever it ever was that I was quitting aye!

But yeah, my main problem is with my doubts about my meditation skills aye...

For example the aura cleanse, imaging them getting purified chakra by chakra... I know one is to learn to feeeeelll it or else it's not right aye! But I don't feel a damn thing... Not when I do that aye...

It's a most fundamental meditation here and am just stuck fussing about it... How many times am like, "am gonna start the 40 day program in a day or two!" But then am like, wait, I should first learn to do the basics right aye... *sigh*

Also, are there any links for the physical stuffs, officially from JoS, that I could follow?

So many damn dead links to webpages everywhere, it's killing me!

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

is it okay to do psychdelics like shrooms?

I havent but was looking into it...

No. They offer pseudo-spiritual experiences (uncontrollable), and, like other substances, harm the body.

True spirituality is controlled, or at least deliberate intention.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

is it okay to do psychdelics like shrooms?

I havent but was looking into it...

No, they are even more harmful than marijuana. Besides damaging your physical health, they also damage your soul, creating holes in your aura and making you vulnerable to psychic attacks from hostile entities. Prolonged use or an overdose can cause very serious problems such as insanity and disability.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

@DreamWolf

If you had to pick something, I recommend you focus on Hatha yoga, daily. It will restore balance to your mind, body, and soul when done consistently. Moreover, overtime, your energy levels will increase permanently, helping you with that fatigue. Don't practice asanas that aggravate any of your joints, as yoga is not supposed to be painful, but gentle, controlled, and elevated.

Here are some option by our High Priestess:

All of my Yoga Posts

This is just so I can have all my yoga posts in one link in my signature. Last update: March 1, 2026 -------- Yoga for Chakras: 6th; 3rd Eye; Crown Throat Chakra Center/Heart Chakra Solar Chakra Sacral Chakra Base Chakra (and for repressed anger) -------- Yoga: Growing Your Home...

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Once you have a routine established, like 10, 20, or 30 minutes a day, then you can slowly add in other Temple of Zeus practices, like chakra/aura cleansing, which is essential.

Depending on how comfortable you are with rituals, you can do a ritual to Lord Ascelpius, who can help you remove substance dependency. (Please wait until the current God schedule is finished, though).

You're on the right path and you're asking the right questions. Don't get overwhelmed; just start small. The members here will support you along the way

 

[DreamWolf]

@DreamWolf

If you had to pick something, I recommend you focus on Hatha yoga, daily. It will restore balance to your mind, body, and soul when done consistently. Moreover, overtime, your energy levels will increase permanently, helping you with that fatigue. Don't practice asanas that aggravate any of your joints, as yoga is not supposed to be painful, but gentle, controlled, and elevated.

Here are some option by our High Priestess:

All of my Yoga Posts

This is just so I can have all my yoga posts in one link in my signature. Last update: March 1, 2026 -------- Yoga for Chakras: 6th; 3rd Eye; Crown Throat Chakra Center/Heart Chakra Solar Chakra Sacral Chakra Base Chakra (and for repressed anger) -------- Yoga: Growing Your Home...

ancient-forums.com

Once you have a routine established, like 10, 20, or 30 minutes a day, then you can slowly add in other Temple of Zeus practices, like chakra/aura cleansing, which is essential.

Depending on how comfortable you are with rituals, you can do a ritual to Lord Ascelpius, who can help you remove substance dependency. (Please wait until the current God schedule is finished, though).

You're on the right path and you're asking the right questions. Don't get overwhelmed; just start small. The members here will support you along the way

So many responses to catch up with, but I wanted to do this one quick...

I appreciate thine kind, encouraging words so much...

I literally spend hours crying every day or two, even now I am, for hours now, just beating myself up over not advancing fast enough... Every bit of criticism goes straight to my heart, tearing me down so badly...

What bothers me a lot is how people keep telling me not to call our Father Satan but Zeus... It hurts me... It hurts me so badly...

I did the dedication ritual, without blood and paper though because of where we lived back then, four months ago (a homeless shelter with my daughter) so there was no way for much discretion... (He graced us with a home, two months ago moved in, I'd been homeless for ten years until then...)

I went straight to joyofsatan.org to do it in a desperate moment, and it took a lot of courage because of enemy lies still riddling me back then...

I just wanted to have someone who'd accept me even in the now, the way I am, so badly flawed and pathetic... (Because as a years long Krishna devotee till then, I always felt that I wasn't gonna be good enough for lifetimes...)

I started feeling Him, all the time, ever since those moments... But here I am now, back in the same loop, because He makes me feel so cherished, but I feel here always like I'm just the absolute worst in this community... Most worthless child of Father Satan...

I called Him into my heart as Satan, even our High Priests and Priestesses call Him Satan in writings, when I think of Zeus it's fundamentally different vibes and I don't feel as comfortable for some reason...

I don't know if maybe that's some past trauma I just can't remember anymore, I just don't feel comfortable thinking of Him as Zeus for now, and I know that that's just ridiculous...

I even feel in anguish about how I spent so many years in Krishna Consciousness but all this other narrative feels so new and confusing and I'm just trying so hard to learn good and be good and do good...

It's just ridiculous how if am not sweet talked by kind words like thine, I just end up feeling like it's the end of the world...

Every couple days I consider taking a break from here for a while just so I can get back to some happy vibes of feeling accepted and cherished by Him with no feelings of guilt, shame and inadequacy... I know everyone's saying these things well meaningly, just wanting to help me... I don't know why it just makes me feel paralyzed and cry for hours on end instead of taking action aye... (And all this anguish just further drains me... Hell, we've just gotten out of a setting where things were getting so hostile I was loudly slandered in front of anyone on a daily basis by women hating me, and I'm a timid total loner always just withdrawing from everyone aye...)

Sorry for typing this lengthy yet again, I feel so pathetic, like I never fit into any group of people, even here, people sound almost downright upset cause am some pathetic weed smoking vegetarian bleeding heart just whining to feel loved by the Gods cause can't even take constructive bloody criticism...

I came to Him assuming that finally I'd be good enough for someone, only to find that making steady, consistent advancements is even more harped on than in Krishna Consciousness... It's good... But I sure ain't no damn tough warrior pushing through challenges with a grin... I fold a million times, barely making inches forward here and there... It's so much easier when someone affectionately tries to uplift and motivate me... But a writing style like thine seems to be the minority type here I guess?

And of course am here doin all this to try to give back to Him for all His Love... I don't want to grow apart from Him too like I did from Krishna and avatars, because the world kept telling me I'm not wanted by a Deity unless this and that...

Damn, sometimes I feel like people see me like here like some wacked out drug addict idiot having gotten brain damage cause of not eating meat, like I'm unable to speak with proper reasoning just because of not being amazing yet like everyone else is here...

It feels unhealthy... Ugh... But I have too many questions I feel a need to find answers for, so that I can do better... Am gonna start with Hatha Yoga, especially now that you said that it's good to do it even before the other things... Hopefully it will sharpen my focus and senses too... Am so eager to please Him, and guess this ain't no Bhakti Yoga where just giving Him flowers and delicious things and incense and kind words and what not would do aye... (I used to chant Maha Mantra daily for hours but lost taste for it, all three times I stopped for a week back then through the years we lost wherever we were living, that harsh stuff made me not wanna do it after the third time almost two years ago... *sigh*)

I'm so riddled with worries... I appreciate thine gentle words to no end...

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

@DreamWolf
If you're comfortable and connected with the epithet, Satan, then use that holy Sanskrit name.

I do ask that you acknowledge, internally, that we aren't the Joy of Satan anymore, but the Temple of Zeus and that Zeus is Satan. That's important because you're showing Father Satan that you don't deny Him in any of His sanctified forms.

Just relax and start with that Hatha yoga, yes. No one here who has the best interest of the Temple in mind is "against" any prospective member who is still learning and growing. You're allowed to have questions, doubts, and fears.

I know first hand how difficult it is to manage life's harsher sides, especially when you have children that rely on you. So keep fighting for a better quality of life, inside and out, and know that with enough dedication to the Temple and your Self, beautiful things await you.

 

[Henu the Great]

Sorry I forgot to quote thine post when talking about these things above...

Would you wish to tell me the negative effects if you don't mind? Also, in light of things in my previous post above, how do you think I should go about learning a trance state? It's exactly what, I can tell, my system needs to work similar and even better than how weed helps with focus on astral endeavors, but my lack of energy effects my focus so much when it comes to trying to achieve meditative stuffs, it frustrates me to no end aye... I too don't wanna be dragged down by the tamasic effects of weed aye... *sigh* (Like, sometimes I get up to pee and then hit my vape pens, one each from THC and CBD, to help me fall back asleep, but end up meditating instead, my way aye, staying awake... And hours later it's a huge exhaustion crash because of the weed wearing out... Starting a day like that suuuuuucks! )

Number one, and this is the most important, you are dependent on something that your body does not need externally in the manner that it is consumed, and how the product is these days (very psychoactive). It messes with the endocannabinoid system of the body, disturbs hormonal balance, and generally causes other imbalances. The forced trance that comes with the usage of this highly refined, high thc product is not healthy for the mind. Spiritually, you become more vulnerable to anything that can act against you. Essentially, this disturbs and weakens your being in quite a multifaceted manner.

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Practicing trance is very simple and easy, actually. Sit down, breathe, relax your mind, not thinking of your day, what you need to do or whatever, just relax, repeat until the brain waves change from the waking state to a relaxed state, and beyond. It is the same as falling asleep, but in this case, you stay awake while you are "asleep". Mild trance is like you are mentally very relaxed, not thinking about this or that problem, your awareness of the body can become more acute, and so forth. Heavier trance is closer to a sleeping state. This is where meditation and magick become more potent as these are right-brained activities. You can lie down or sit while you do this. More advanced practitioners can do yoga asanas.