Curious666 said:
Is Joy of Satan a cult? Convince me it isn't.
It promotes hating Yehuborim. Thus alienating itself.
It promotes hate for members that are against or unwilling or not understanding of the principles.
Only the the few chosen get to annouce and tell everyone what comes next.
Only the few chosen seem to get instructions from the higher beings. I have never gotten instructions.
It has very few minorities (hence seems to promote ideologies for the white)
It promotes separatism which scares me sometimes when i think about it. Because i do feel like we need each other.
It shows basics of doing magick but doesn't share the powerful methods.
It promotes donations of which other than running the site and forums i don't know anything else the donations are used for.
It keeps secrets such as not telling where the leader is or what is happening.
I am not a Yehubor. I have no Yehuborim friends. I am not in anyway connected to christian programming.
It promotes sex and tells men to avoid no fap yet with my experience no fap was the only thing that made me feel human. It was a most powerful experience for me.
I do wanna honestly know if JoS is A cult. Because i am starting to have doubts. I have faced so much struggle walking in this path. 80% of the time i have felt alone and lonely. I have never felt any powerful presence of the gods. I don't even sense my Guardian Demon. I feel so confused and alone. My life is in turmoil. The things i thought i would have gained through the 11 years joining this path i gained only 10%. This is not natural for me. I don't feel normal most of the time. I feel like i am living in a bubble. If this post won't go through, i probably would think JoS is a cult.
It promotes hating Yehuborim. Thus alienating itself.
This sentence is very non-sensical and weird. If we promote hating Yehuborim how are we alienating ourselves? Does that mean that Yehuborim are the entire human race, thus we are "alienated" by hating them?
If we promote hating Yehuborim we aren't alienating ourselves, rather alienating them. (the Yehuborim)
Also, we don't promote hating Yehuborim. We hate Yehuborim because of what they are, what they have done, and have been consistenly doing.
It promotes hate for members that are against or unwilling or not understanding of the principles.
We don't hate members that are against, or unwilling to follow our principles. An example for this is someone who says they love doing drugs because it helps them feel good spiritually. Then an SS member tells them drugs that drugs will fuck your life up and make you spiritually and mentally retarded.
This is not hate. This is just stating facts and truths that might make you feel bad about yourself.
In fact there are no specific rules or principals that Satanism dictates. You're free to do as you wish and are encouraged to have free thought. Although, the rules of nature and common sense will still apply. If you harm yourself or others consistenly, you'll get harmed. No shit.
Another example is why we are against race mixing. What is the most obvious end result of race mixing eventually, scientifically? Is it diversity and peace? No, you'll get extinct races and LACK of diversity. There won't be white people, black people, or asians. People will just be a mesh of races with no clear identity. Again, for anyone who studied genetics, no shit.
Only the the few chosen get to annouce and tell everyone what comes next.
Well, no shit. That's what happens in literally every organization on Earth. You have a hierarchy, and levels of management. Some stuff gets to the top management first. Well, yeah, of course they will dumbass. That's why they are management. They have worked hard for years and earned the trust of the organization with the sheer effort, focus, and hardwork. Not to mention meditation and studying from as far as the 2000's.
Only the few chosen seem to get instructions from the higher beings. I have never gotten instructions.
How is your meditation schedule? Are you meditating?
If not, start meditating properly and put some work into it. Messages from the Gods will start to open up for you bit by bit. Accordingly to the spiritual work you put in.
It has very few minorities (hence seems to promote ideologies for the white)
Yeah, sure. It has very few minorities to the point it has a dedicated forum for blacks, and asians.
One of the most wise, reliable and hard working spiritual satanists I know are black btw. I don't get why you get the feeling JoS discriminates.
Additionally, JoS have been working very tediously to translate to languages to reach even more gentiles, or "minorities" as you call them and have been very succssful.
It promotes separatism which scares me sometimes when i think about it. Because i do feel like we need each other.
JoS doesn't promote seperatism. You just saw that in your head.
HP and as a general rule JoS have explained in many writings the value of family, friendships, community, mothers, fathers, and love. Because they are sacred to Satan and the Gods.
It shows basics of doing magick but doesn't share the powerful methods.
This is very dumb. Did you do all the meditations then? Have you mastered the elements and can do telekinesis and lift even a piece of paper now that makes you feel that all magick shared on JoS "basics"? My man have you even read all the website's articles?
It promotes donations of which other than running the site and forums i don't know anything else the donations are used for.
If you don't want to donate, you don't have to. No one is gonna ask you to, either.
But donations are used for more than that. The donations page includes the very info that explains what the donations are used for. If you decide the reasons are worth it you can donate. If you think you don't want to, then don't.
Motherfuckers would easily donate thousands upon thousands of their hard earned cash for hot twitch streamers and onlyfans. Then, when it comes to an organization like JoS, they want to get the world for free.
It keeps secrets such as not telling where the leader is or what is happening.
The JoS "leadership's" life is private. If she decides one day after 20 years of hard and tedious service, study, and work. To take a break to attend to some matters that should be her choice.
Other than that. Secrets are kept for a reason. If JoS leadership decides to conceal something. It is usually because they either can't or they shouldn't.
Although, throughout the years of me being here in JoS. I have seen, everything is shared when the time is just right. Because of many reasons, one of them is the enemy.
The enemy literally holds secret meetings with the most powerful and evil men of society with ultimate secrecy and concealment. While some people whine because some information is kept secret on a goddamn public forum on the worldwide web dumbass.
It promotes sex and tells men to avoid no fap yet with my experience no fap was the only thing that made me feel human. It was a most powerful experience for me.
If you don't want to fap. Then, don't. No one is gonna and come fap for you or something.
We just explain that although porn is extremely Yehuborim and destructive and we encourage completely quitting it. We also explain that actual sexual expression is crucial. Try to be sexually repressed and talk to girls and tell me how nofap "changed your life". You never have to masturbate to porn either. There are many ways you can enjoy true and healthy sexuality.
Btw, you speak like a certain "sloth" we've had here. Just know if my intuition is correct you can't fool us anymore and your tries are just cringe and disgusting. We've grown alot.