If you want me to bite, then put your hand in my mouth

[Dark Blue Eye]

In my opinion this kind of discussions are healthy, but in the same time could be so easily avoided by the people who accused FancyMancy for expressing freely by just ignore the way he replied. If you don't like it, just ignore it. It's that simple. He literally has 'fancy' in his name. There are things that are so unnecesarry, especially in a group where the main focus is to advance, and one important aspect in advancement is maturity

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

Your dentures are no match for my thick fingers.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

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I think the main problem with some of your writing is that it can come off as too whimsical in nature; more like poetry than what is appropriate for a situation. When this happens, it can become confusing for someone who is trying to understand what was written.

I think a good example of this is in the text you wrote here

Like... OK. I did say in a thread a bit ago about being more honest with people, that I think by now the more long-term members should maybe be able to be more direct with each other. Pray tell - what does FancyMancy need to be told? I promise I won't send you out to be basted (namely because there's only enough stock in that one baster for one use). Yeah - you have no idea what I'm on about. It's a joke. Weekend, Sunday, feeding the trolls, Sunday roast, Fun day which rhymes - sending to Turkey the country like a beach with no water - a very hot place, turkey the food, basting, no water but not being too cruel so giving some basting stock... Maybe it's too subtle a type of humour for everyone on here, but I don't care. Get used to it, figure it out, or get over it. Better yet - do as everyone else does; ignore it and consider FancyMancy the local clown. Don't forget to tip me after the performance.

The portion that I highlighted, in particular, is where it becomes harder to follow your writing. It's not that I cannot follow what you are saying, but it feels like I am trying to follow someone's colorful thoughts, rather than read a message from you.

At the same time, I have seen other posts by you that seemed fine as well. I think this is a situation where you have to choose what writing style is appropriate. Perhaps for you, this could come off as a more boring way of communicating, but sometimes that is necessary for legibility.

That is why Outlaw likened your posts to an Asylum patient. It is not that you are actually crazy, rather sometimes the writing can come off as a little too ungrounded at times.

At the same time, this doesn't make you deserving of actual hate or anything. I think it is just a matter of thinking about the functionality of your text, rather than the artistic flair or wordplay. In certain situations, it is more important to convey concise "data" than paint a whole picture, if that makes sense.

 

[Dahaarkan]

I'm not at all surprised human beetles like outlaw torn and the like take something that others simply said as a joke, and try to spin it to cause arguments. Although your posts are long winded at times, and worded in a less simplified english than most people are used to.

This is not a negative, simply something unusual. Should you simplify your style of writing to appease people who don't have the brain capacity to comprehend english?

Well that's up to you. I wouldn't change a damn thing about myself to appease such people.

 

[Dahaarkan]

grug think fancy man have many fancy word.

hard for grug. grug not understand fancy man with fancy words.

grug want fancy man stop use fancy word. talk more like grug. then grug understand fancy man posts pls. Pls

 

[Shadowcat]

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I think the main problem with some of your writing is that it can come off as too whimsical in nature; more like poetry than what is appropriate for a situation. When this happens, it can become confusing for someone who is trying to understand what was written.

I think a good example of this is in the text you wrote here

Like... OK. I did say in a thread a bit ago about being more honest with people, that I think by now the more long-term members should maybe be able to be more direct with each other. Pray tell - what does FancyMancy need to be told? I promise I won't send you out to be basted (namely because there's only enough stock in that one baster for one use). Yeah - you have no idea what I'm on about. It's a joke. Weekend, Sunday, feeding the trolls, Sunday roast, Fun day which rhymes - sending to Turkey the country like a beach with no water - a very hot place, turkey the food, basting, no water but not being too cruel so giving some basting stock... Maybe it's too subtle a type of humour for everyone on here, but I don't care. Get used to it, figure it out, or get over it. Better yet - do as everyone else does; ignore it and consider FancyMancy the local clown. Don't forget to tip me after the performance.

The portion that I highlighted, in particular, is where it becomes harder to follow your writing. It's not that I cannot follow what you are saying, but it feels like I am trying to follow someone's colorful thoughts, rather than read a message from you.

At the same time, I have seen other posts by you that seemed fine as well. I think this is a situation where you have to choose what writing style is appropriate. Perhaps for you, this could come off as a more boring way of communicating, but sometimes that is necessary for legibility.

That is why Outlaw likened your posts to an Asylum patient. It is not that you are actually crazy, rather sometimes the writing can come off as a little too ungrounded at times.

At the same time, this doesn't make you deserving of actual hate or anything. I think it is just a matter of thinking about the functionality of your text, rather than the artistic flair or wordplay. In certain situations, it is more important to convey concise "data" than paint a whole picture, if that makes sense.

This is a pretty good analyzation. This is just fancys personality which has never come off to me as off putting, but just being who he is. as you know I am actually really good at picking up on the energy of someones writing. There has been times where i have found his british dry humor completely hilarious lmao :lol:. The way he can make fun of a situation sometimes really cracks me up. I remember that one thread when with this Yehubor trying to "vizuzle" its third eye. rofl i was dying :lol: :lol:

 

[Dark Blue Eye]

grug think fancy man have many fancy word.

hard for grug. grug not understand fancy man with fancy words.

grug want fancy man stop use fancy word. talk more like grug. then grug understand fancy man posts pls. Pls

I had a good laugh :lol:

 

[Henu the Great]

Out buying soy sauce.

 

[Shadowcat]

grug think fancy man have many fancy word.

hard for grug. grug not understand fancy man with fancy words.

grug want fancy man stop use fancy word. talk more like grug. then grug understand fancy man posts pls. Pls

Grug hahahahahahaaaaa! Grug and grugette are the terms i use for people who have "caveman" responses. :lol:

Grug WANT! Grugette WANT!

 

[tabby]

I find Fancy's comments to just be really funny and bouncy. It's nice having that kind of liveliness around.

 

[darkmonkey666]

He is the exact opposite of anything I would think of as "Fancy"

 

[Henu the Great]

I don't get the meme, but oh my gosh my tired brain... I read that as "goy sauce" :shock:

Chinese way of saying I do not care.

 

[Pumpkin671]

Blitzkreig is correct in his assessment of Fancy, and I agree with it. Outlaw, while harsh, does provide context as to how it would sound in an online forum and I can kinda see it.
I do, however, pay no mind to his accent or type of writing style. It is colorful and I sometimes chuckle when I have the time to read his posts.

 

[Big Dipper]

Your dentures are no match for my thick fingers.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

MY LEG

 

[Aquarius]

How nice would it be if Aquarius didn't have his man periods every other day to act needlessly rude and abrasive to others.

 

[Henu the Great]

How nice would it be if we could all just stop slinging shit at each other like monkeys for more than a week.

I told you how things are from my point of view, directly. Afterwards you flipped out doing all sorts of projections with irrelevant subjects to the topic.

You are repeating the same behavior than before. It would not hurt for you to reflect on your statements. Although, you probably do not understand what I mean and consider this "slinging shit" as well. :roll:

 

[Dahaarkan]

I do not think Aquarius is toxic. Don't get me wrong, he is a cunt. But his posts come off as mostly being direct and stern than actually venting frustration on other members.

There is a very clear difference in being direct and to the point, and wording a response with the clear intent to demoralize or dismantle an other's self esteem, either for the purpose to make one feel superior or to vent their frustration onto other people.


I don't really get that vibe from aquarius, you can disagree with him and actually have a conversation, unlike the toxic types who simply go into denial when their behavior is called out.


I think many people are under the indoctrination that "words" don't have power. An ironic belief for a Satanist to have, considering the core of this religion is words and affirmation. What you say to others can affect them in ways perhaps you still aren't aware of.

 

[Henu the Great]

but if we can't disagree with each other without bashing then there is obviously a big problem here. Maybe it's time to finally address it.

I never attacked (or "bashed") you, and I also never played around with you. All I've done is disagreeing you, bringing my point of view. If you can not handle the way I conveyed the message then that's okay. However it is not okay for you to start accusing me of something irrelevant to the subject at hand and fly around subjects that are not relevant or none of your business.

All I can say is that go back to the post and try to understand where I came from and how you conducted yourself afterwards.

 

[Henu the Great]

What projections? Do you even know what psychological projection really is, or are you just using the term because you believe that it somehow applies here?

Wrong thread for the argument, by the way. Best to keep it in one place.

Let's put it this way. The bad things you accuse of others are actually your own doing.

You're right. I'm feeling so Crowley today, and I just feel so called out for it.

Leave the psychology to me. You're no good at it.

I likened your view to the do what you want to do - ideal since that is what you described on your post. So why are you so mad? You basically said that it is rightful to do what you want.


I am a psychology noob. I hope you feel better now since you are better than a psychology noob.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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All I can say is that if one person is always having problems with many other different people, it would likely not be correct that every single one of them are the ones with the problem. It is much easier to assume that the one person is having trouble with communicating and with controlling emotions.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

I find Fancy's comments to just be really funny and bouncy. It's nice having that kind of liveliness around.

It's only a problem if some sort of serious information is unable to be conveyed properly. I am pretty sure this has not been the case, however. Although, the critic in me would say "all communications need to be perfect!".

The bigger problem, however, is the emotional distress Fancy is experiencing, because this seems to have been going on for an extended period of time. Maybe a Pluto transit or something, because he seems to be evaluating himself.

 

[tabby]

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I find Fancy's comments to just be really funny and bouncy. It's nice having that kind of liveliness around.

It's only a problem if some sort of serious information is unable to be conveyed properly. I am pretty sure this has not been the case, however. Although, the critic in me would say "all communications need to be perfect!".

The bigger problem, however, is the emotional distress Fancy is experiencing, because this seems to have been going on for an extended period of time. Maybe a Pluto transit or something, because he seems to be evaluating himself.

I can understand that kind of inner critic, haha. I'm the same way at times.
Makes sense. Pluto transit would affect one for a while since it's so slow moving.

Maybe taking advantage of the coming Mercury squares would be a wise thing for everyone, regarding communications in general. I know there's only one next month because of the retrograde, but after that there's at least 3 opportunities the month after.

 

[Henu the Great]

This is too stupid to reply to seriously, but yes all of the toxicity of the forum is all my fault. Wonderful conclusion. Nice scapegoat. Bravo. Another typical pop psychology faux pas, "Have you ever considered that maybe YOU'RE the problem?"
Do you know how common that quack line is? You're so full of shit.

Never said you are the fault for all the conflicts. Simply, for the ones you are centered around. Like seriously, if you want to go down to the low level, sure go ahead, but it will not conclude anything meaningful for either of us, or the community at large. As can be seen from your insults.

having my message deliberately misinterpreted

That is simply one of the ways I understood your point of view at that point of time. Take it or leave it, but don't start no shit about this. It is really tiresome that you can not handle differing views.

 

[Henu the Great]

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I would have been interested to continue changing ideas about the subject of disagreement, even if we ultimately would have had to agree to disagree, but this has turned sour at this point. For me it primarily has not been about the messenger, or how the message was delivered but instead the message itself. So when you invoke your anger about the delivery and keep insisting about it, you have had the result of making the whole topic sour for me. So no thanks, you can continue alone.

I've read most of your posts and your viewpoint is different on how to achieve the result. I have not had the intention to attack you at any point, yet you insulted me at many points. This both frustrated and saddened me. I think the best course of action at this point would be simply to avoid each other, for now at least.

 

[tabby]

This is too stupid to reply to seriously, but yes all of the toxicity of the forum is all my fault. Wonderful conclusion. Nice scapegoat. Bravo. Another typical pop psychology faux pas, "Have you ever considered that maybe YOU'RE the problem?"
Do you know how common that quack line is? You're so full of shit.

Never said you are the fault for all the conflicts. Simply, for the ones you are centered around. Like seriously, if you want to go down to the low level, sure go ahead, but it will not conclude anything meaningful for either of us, or the community at large. As can be seen from your insults.

having my message deliberately misinterpreted

That is simply one of the ways I understood your point of view at that point of time. Take it or leave it, but don't start no shit about this. It is really tiresome that you can not handle differing views.

That's not correct to say, Henu (the part I bolded). Looking through much of jrvan's post history, more often than not, he is responding back to people who are giving him or someone else a hard time, or have insulted him in some way first. Most of his conflicts have not been hist fault.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Good question. :?

I just read some more topics and I saw there was a discussion about you thinking somebody might have been trying to compare you to him. I don't know if that comparison was actually intended, but I want to make it clear you have nothing about you that is similar to that kind of person. The person who was similar to Crowley was One Wire Phenomenon.