How to leave Zeus properly

[Magus Immortalis]

"I’m 100% convinced Zeus should just let me die. It doesn’t matter if I meditate or do warfare. I’ll always be alone. 

And for that I’ve developed a deep hatred for him. I am too weak to be here anymore."
I am beside myself with anger and I am just speechless.
No, you won't always be alone. But with that kind of mindset and attitude, you will be. No one wants to be around a weak, whining hateful "Zevist" who has "developed a deep hatred" for Zeus just because they did not get what they want. That is very childish and you need to stop acting that way, like, now.
I am frankly tired of your feeling sorry for yourself and on top of that, hating Zeus for it. 
It should be your weakness that you should be hating, not the one who created you. 
Stop fucking projecting your hatred onto him! 
You want something to hate? Hate your attitude and mindset and work to change it. 
You will get NOWHERE in life if you keep that attitude and mindset in the world, not just in Zevism.
Have you ever considered that Zeus is working through the ToZ members here in the groups to reach you? 
Or are you going to just sit there and complain? Don't you EVER get sick of that? 
I think you need to apologize to Zeus. He has done nothing wrong, but help you and help you some more and guide you, along with your Guardian Demon(s). 
You don't get what you want, you feel alone, so you hate him? What is that? 

The spiritual warfare and meditations DO benefit you. Zeus and the Gods and Goddesses of Hell have given us all this knowledge so we can be free, advance ourselves, reach Godhead and evolve into a higher and more powerful being. In return, we help him in this war through the Rituals and other means.

Life isn't always about doing x to get y. 
Believe me, (or not, it seems hard to get anything through to you with that endless whining overwhelming everything and everyone here) the gods are NOT miserly, unfair or cruel. 
They are fair and just. When you reach for Zeus to have a sincere and honest relationship with him, "he meets us more than halfway" (as I recall HPS Pythia saying in one of her sermons, and in my personal experience it is very true.)
They can also be generous with the love, guidance and help, even if  we are not aware of it. They know what is in our hearts and minds. They know our intentions.
You know what? Zeus and the gods don't OWE you anything. They have been helping and guiding you all this time. And this is how you repay him? With deep hatred? 
In my other post, I wrote that it could be that your Incubus is WAITING FOR THE RIGHT TIME to come to you. Mine came to me in my 7th year as a Zevist and I didn't see him until my 8th year. This may not be the case for everyone, of course. I am just using myself as an example. In the meantime, continuing with the meditations and spiritual warfare would not just benefit Zeus and the gods, but also the WORLD and all Potential people of the Gods in it. And yourself, to top it off.

On Thursday, February 28, 2019, 11:41:57 a.m. EST, Shannon soutlaw92@... [JoyofSatan666] <[email protected] wrote:

  Jen, I think we've had enough of your self hate and emotionally unnecessary outlook. 
We All have given you advice, if you can't get that through your head, then get away. I guess it's easier for you to feel sorry for yourself and get lost in your pool of emotional immaturity than to be strong.
Stop acting pathetic. Youre not listening to everyone's advice to you. 
You obviously want help and or attention which is why you are still here on the groups. This has been going on for months. 

Zevism is for the strong.  You dont want to help yourself, so why should any of us try to help you?

High Priestess Shannon 
On Thursday, February 28, 2019, 11:27:13 AM EST, jenmarth13@... [JoyofSatan666] <[email protected] wrote:

  I’m not comparable with other people. Emotionally it just wouldn’t work. It’s just one of those things you KNOW. I can’t really describe it in words, so I don’t expect anyone to believe me.

I’m too worthless to be with an incubus too. So I have no choice but to stay alone. And since that’s what’s in store for me, why bother living anymore. I wouldn’t reincarnate after death. I would choose to let my soul dissipate. No point anymore. I’ve had it.

 

[[email protected]]

To fade away is terrifying. When Baal Zebul killed that corrupted being that had for years messed up my life, the corrupted being was in great pain.

You don't want to dissipate. Trust me. A second death is far worse than being lonely. You cease to exist. It's over for you. And it's not pain free as you go. It's also terrifying.

Think it over. You won't feel anymore. You won't remember anymore. You won't think anymore. You won't see anymore. You won't experience none existence. You will be no more. No way to come back. Nothing. You can't experience it. You just can't. You can't imagine it either. Your consciousness is gone. No more. It's over. No peace. Nothing.

Zeus doesn't want that for you. He doesn't want you to die either.

 

[R B]

I think you should visit a psychiatrist.

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019, 19:22 jenmarth13@... [JoyofSatan666], <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  I’m not comparable with other people. Emotionally it just wouldn’t work. It’s just one of those things you KNOW. I can’t really describe it in words, so I don’t expect anyone to believe me.

I’m too worthless to be with an incubus too. So I have no choice but to stay alone. And since that’s what’s in store for me, why bother living anymore. I wouldn’t reincarnate after death. I would choose to let my soul dissipate.. No point anymore. I’ve had it.

 

[Jose Angel]

Why would you bring more negative energy to this person that clearly needs help? Bring postive information. To this person thats asking for help. Plz

On Thursday, February 28, 2019, 10:36:51 AM CST, Shannon soutlaw92@... [JoyofSatan666] <[email protected] wrote:

  Jen, I think we've had enough of your self hate and emotionally unnecessary outlook. 
We All have given you advice, if you can't get that through your head, then get away. I guess it's easier for you to feel sorry for yourself and get lost in your pool of emotional immaturity than to be strong.
Stop acting pathetic. Youre not listening to everyone's advice to you. 
You obviously want help and or attention which is why you are still here on the groups. This has been going on for months. 

Zevism is for the strong.  You dont want to help yourself, so why should any of us try to help you?

High Priestess Shannon 
On Thursday, February 28, 2019, 11:27:13 AM EST, jenmarth13@... [JoyofSatan666] <[email protected] wrote:

  I’m not comparable with other people. Emotionally it just wouldn’t work. It’s just one of those things you KNOW. I can’t really describe it in words, so I don’t expect anyone to believe me.

I’m too worthless to be with an incubus too. So I have no choice but to stay alone. And since that’s what’s in store for me, why bother living anymore. I wouldn’t reincarnate after death. I would choose to let my soul dissipate. No point anymore. I’ve had it.

 

[[email protected]]

Your comparable with someone out there even if your very different. There are people out there that have very specific natures and are very different to that might love to hang out with you. Do a little search on Plutonian people or Uranian etc you may get along with those types but no one will deal with self hate. I dont think even the Gods want to deal with it. Its just draining on the individual that is trying to be with you and makes them think you had a bunch of hang ups. I knew someone years ago that used to do self harm it was a turn off and it's like dumb. I gave up trying to help them after a bit this stuff is so draining either snap out of it or you will be alone and the reason you are alone now is cause you put so much energy towards it. That knowing that is a spell for lonliness I think munka working could help you. You either snap out of it and be happy or you will be alone trust me your not the only different person out there. Be yourself and if you cant use a freeing the soul working to make yourself confident in this. Or sink into the muck and never read this

 

[ericgarcia649]

Jen you don't have what it takes to be Zevist if you keep with that mindset , a true Zevist knows he or she must be aware about he's or her thoughts at all times because your toughts shape your reality.

 

[thisisafalsealias]

There's no doubt it must suck to be approaching your 30s, alone, wishing you weren't, but hating Zeus and tantrums and like stuff such as that is simply toxic to yourself and others. Its OK to make a post, its ok to feel sad or even to just vent, but without an actual direction or goal you are not doing a good thing. Seeing a psychiatrist might actually help you, it could be one of those cases where psychology might actually help you. I've been in a rough place recently myself, and I can totally understand and relate to what you are going through, at least somewhat.

I sympathize and believe you that it must be very painful and likely you ARE different from others and having a hard time finding someone. I don't really know what to tell you. I can't really sit here and tell you it will get better unfortunately but think of things that makes you happy like I look forward all day to coming home to relax, have a drink and a snack and enjoy myself, buy a thing or two on amazon or whatever. I just bought a smartwatch. I also have hundreds of hours of music written, something that is a gift from myself to the world and makes a permanent mark on this Earth in my name. That is something that keeps me from that dark place. I don't wanna condescendingly give you advice that you don't need here, but maybe you need stuff like that to get you through the day. You will have times where you feel like this, but try to keep it to two days a week, then bring it down to one day, and try to work it all the way down to one hour so that all your depression is contained within that hour or two you just say fuck it and let yourself feel like shit. But let yourself forget about that shit too. I go to these forums to make up for lacks of human interaction I may have in my daily life. (although I wouldn't ditch the forums if I randomly made a ton of friends and got married.)
There are people here over age 50 who haven't gotten laid or had a girl/boyfriend before. It sucks. I know you primarily want an incubus. But it's life. I think that's partially because they didn't try as hard. You have to swallow your pride and face rejection even up to one hundred times, it's retarded, but the only way and if someone else finds it easier to discover love then don't compare that person to yourself because it has to do more with what men think they want than your actual quality and attractiveness of your person. Men want the "goth girl" one day, then the "eco hipster" the next day, some women are just in high demand for no solid reason and it says NOTHING about the quality of person they are. That is why geeky cucks and ugly mean girls find love even though we might not, sometimes there is just a demand for certain types of people and those people are always trading dates with each other because it's how the market works. It could be you if our culture was just a little different. You should look for more niche types of people instead of thinking you just aren't compatible. I know the feeling but it's just a feeling and I can prove it so.
Please take care of yourself.

 

[[email protected]]

Jen, you're very sick. And you seem lost. But you don't have to be.
You say that you're incompatible with people, but you don't want to put it to words. It's not that you can't, it's that you won't, because you won't like the answer. Asking yourself why you think you're incompatible with people will force you to take a look at yourself and question your perception. Which is hard for you, given your outlook and view of yourself, but acknowledging that something's not working right is a necessary step before you're able to fix it.

I would bet that the reason that you think you're incompatible with people is because you had bad experiences with them. I see alot of neediness coming from you, and I'm sure that whatever relationships you've been in must have been toxic and codependent, because your mentality attracts people that prey on it. If not that, then I get the impression that you disappoint yourself by expecting fairy-tale romance and perfection out of the other person. Or thinking that love is a trophy, or something you're entitled to because of X, Y or Z. Or if only someone else would love you, then you can feel that you're worth loving, and love yourself. Which is not how it works, and only sends you deeper on the downward spiral when your expectations inevitably are not met.

You need to understand how you come across to others before you make judgements about them, or yourself. Threatening to kill yourself if you can't have someone, for one, is a very toxic and manipulative way to act. Nobody finds this kind of mentality attractive, and in fact, anyone in their right mind would avoid it. People have enough burdens of their own to carry, they don't want to be forced to carry the burdens of others. Responsibility for oneself goes to oneself, and no-one else.

You have alot of emotional baggage, self hate and negative mental programming that works against you and keeps you from enjoying yourself, which prevents other people from enjoying you, romantically or otherwise. And because you're so focused on yourself, you can't properly enjoy others either. You need to take an honest look at yourself, take note of the things that aren't working so well and, without making them bigger than they are, take things one day at a time to fix them one by one. And question why you think this way or that, so that you can lead yourself to the source and start to fix some of the dysfunctional thinking that you're experiencing.

I understand it's hard for you to see out of the cloud of depression you're in but believe me, while it won't be quick and it won't always be easy, it absolutely can be done. Getting out of the pit and healing yourself. And be aware that you're being manipulated by the enemy, if not your own mind; no god or demon would ever be abusive to you. The enemy knows where your buttons are and they will mash them with a jackhammer for as long as they can get a rise out of you and keep you down. By opting to stop taking care of your soul and kill yourself, you're playing right into their hands and denying yourself of all the peace, love, life & positivity that you will ever have the opportunity to have.


If you truly want to commit suicide then that is your perogative, but know that no-one is responsible for it but you. It's your decision and your responsibility, and yours alone. It's not a coercion or bargaining tool. While you may see it as a way out of feeling miserable, you will die with misery being the last thought & emotion you will ever feel and know, as the dead can't experience peace or relief, or love or joy or happiness or fulfillment or satisfaction.

You create a self-fulfilling prophecy, by convincing yourself that you will always be miserable and alone, you therefore kill yourself to escape the misery over this matter, thus you will only ever have known misery and in death you will be truly separate and alone. In life, you still have yourself, your friends, family, us. Death is the apex of solitude.

Those really are your only two options here. Either kill yourself and give up every chance and opportunity you have of feeling peace, fulfillment, joy, love, etc, or continue living and accept that while you're not at where you want to be, you can still take responsibility for getting yourself there. And eventually deliver yourself on the doorstep of your dream of a better life. It's not hard to see which is the better investment here. Besides, what do you have to lose by marching on, as opposed to giving up?

Nobody's gonna do it for you. You have to decide that you're worth improving your life for, not for anyone else, but for you. If you can't even do it for you, as the one who will the the first to benefit and benefit the most from it, then how can you expect yourself to do it for anyone else? How can you expect others to love you when you don't love yourself?


Besides that, I'm gonna go with RB and suggest looking into counseling. If you want to get better, then that may be the way to go for you.

If not, then I guess it comes down to this: either you move on or we move on.

 

[R B]

I completely support what High Priestess Shannon has said.. Jen has been piling her negativity on herself for months now. When someone is depressed, you of course approach them softly. But if they keep wallowing in their misery and magnifying it, you just have to be frank with them. I also get the feeling that Jen is at the point where she now survives or seeks comfort from other people's compassion. It shows how bad her situation is. I've lost count of how many posts she's made here about having reached the end of her rope, and people give her good advice and show compassion, and it happens over and over again.She needs to do something and stop whining. Sometimes when one is depressed, no amount of chakra cleaning will help them if they keep focusing on their problems.The best she could do is stop thinking about having an incubus and focus on opening her soul, spiritual warfare and cleaning the negative energy she's piled up within her soul and aura.And Jen, having a Demon lover is an honour. Hating Zeus, being depressed and wanting to suicide could just be making yourself less honourable. If the foundation of your identity as a Zevist is having an incubus, you're lost sister.Put down the idea of an incubus and focus on the important things in life. Who knows, you may be surprised by recieving a Demon lover *when you're ready*.

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019, 06:04 Jose Angel josea361@... [JoyofSatan666], <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  Why would you bring more negative energy to this person that clearly needs help? Bring postive information. To this person thats asking for help. Plz

On Thursday, February 28, 2019, 10:36:51 AM CST, Shannon soutlaw92@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  Jen, I think we've had enough of your self hate and emotionally unnecessary outlook. 
We All have given you advice, if you can't get that through your head, then get away. I guess it's easier for you to feel sorry for yourself and get lost in your pool of emotional immaturity than to be strong.
Stop acting pathetic. Youre not listening to everyone's advice to you. 
You obviously want help and or attention which is why you are still here on the groups. This has been going on for months. 

Zevism is for the strong.  You dont want to help yourself, so why should any of us try to help you?

High Priestess Shannon 
On Thursday, February 28, 2019, 11:27:13 AM EST, jenmarth13@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  I’m not comparable with other people. Emotionally it just wouldn’t work. It’s just one of those things you KNOW. I can’t really describe it in words, so I don’t expect anyone to believe me.

I’m too worthless to be with an incubus too. So I have no choice but to stay alone. And since that’s what’s in store for me, why bother living anymore. I wouldn’t reincarnate after death. I would choose to let my soul dissipate. No point anymore. I’ve had it.

 

[Jh I]

Jen,
It is NOT too late! You think you're beyond saving?? Not true!
I used to think and feel similiar to what you feel and think. But guess what? 
We're BETTER than this!! You are better than this! 
Maybe you're not ready. Maybe you're being TESTED.
I'm alone myself...but when I work on developing my soul, I can do anything and being lonely doesn't worry me anymore! Because of this, I'm a stronger person than I was and I'm telling you you will succeed...just not now!
Don't you dare give up! The enemy is making you think what you think when you have the potential to become better!
I want to hear from you in the future that you've become stronger!
Remember, you're better than this!

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 2:21 PM jenmarth13@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  It was kind of you to reply. But yes, it’s too late for me.. I am beyond saving at this point. I’m 100% convinced Zeus should just let me die. It doesn’t matter if I meditate or do warfare. I’ll always be alone.

And for that I’ve developed a deep hatred for him. I am too weak to be here anymore.

 

[jenmarth13]

The replies HAVE been helping. I get that I complain too much, I can’t say I didn’t see this coming.

I’ve been meditating again, I don’t know what I’ll do next time it hits. Maybe I’ll just re-read the replies to help me instead of ranting again.

Really, i DO appreciate the help. I just haven’t found a solid solution. I’m not doing this because I crave attention(I know you all think that).but I feel ill when things blow up like this and it takes me a while to read all the replies. I’m not gonna willingly put myself though something so nerve racking.

You all have been more kind to me than I deserve. I can’t say if things will get better or not. I don’t know. I can only distract myself from the pain. The problem still persists. So everything is still up in the air right now. Thank you very much though. I guess I should tackle positive thinking fist and foremost.

 

[[email protected]]

I completely agree Zeus is wonderful. I thought it was too late for years and he is helping me now. Just do warfare and cleanse your mind. I dont think he would ever abandon anyone who truly is seeking him. If you can pull out of this great if not you may have a few years of torment to go through the enemy will give you nothing. You will be back when it's time and right now we need as many warriors as possible. The interesting thing is Zeus pulled me back a few days before and got me thinking and then right when I decided to come back here was the day the final Ritual started. I know he wanted me to help out and I have done it almost every day mutiple times. Do what you can for him and you will be ok. Dont ever give up. Hope is not gone I dont think.
Hail Zeus. He is truly understanding just try to get past enemy programming that may be why your doing stuff that doesnt help you. I thought I was fucked but I realized I was listening to infiltrators and not taking it seriously. Good luck to you. I dont mean to post too much but I truly sense you need help. If we didnt care about you no one would respond. Your ok now do your Zevist duty and move on and you can have what you want.

 

[thisisafalsealias]

It is ok to want attention as long as it isn't unreasonable, as anytime someone posts here asking a question or for advice or even posting new information, they technically are looking for attention. I too believed that you were genuinely in need of attention and help. If my replies are helping you then I also don't mind making them. It's good to hear you started meditating again, and when you get to a dark place again, try reading the replies over (I did that before when I was in a bad place) and it will get easier to manage over time. I think it will get better for you, but keep in mind life always has challenges so you need to be prepared for anything and get better at managing anxiety no matter what the cause. Which I believe, you will.
Hail Zeus!

 

[R B]

Glad to hear that you're doing better sister. Now that's the attitude. Keep it up and you'll advance well through meditations and finally access the astral, and achieve your dreams.

On Sun, 3 Mar 2019, 12:31 jenmarth13@... [JoyofSatan666], <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  The replies HAVE been helping. I get that I complain too much, I can’t say I didn’t see this coming.

I’ve been meditating again, I don’t know what I’ll do next time it hits. Maybe I’ll just re-read the replies to help me instead of ranting again.

Really, i DO appreciate the help. I just haven’t found a solid solution. I’m not doing this because I crave attention(I know you all think that).but I feel ill when things blow up like this and it takes me a while to read all the replies. I’m not gonna willingly put myself though something so nerve racking.

You all have been more kind to me than I deserve. I can’t say if things will get better or not. I don’t know. I can only distract myself from the pain. The problem still persists. So everything is still up in the air right now. Thank you very much though. I guess I should tackle positive thinking fist and foremost.

 

[jenmarth13]

Thank you. I do believe I have the strength to overcome this. It’s just not easy for me.

 

[[email protected]]

aside from regular energy affirmations and positive thinking, you can try yoga or traditional martial art forms. I'm going to make a post within the next few days as a guide on how to learn some martial arts online. If you want to learn a form I suggest reading that.

Remember that everyone here is with you and is rooting for you. You owe it to yourself to live a happy life. Regular people live in a random world with no control. We on the other hand can obtain anything we want. Just be patient and remember to express emotions in a healthy way. Self discovery goes a long way.

 

[Jh I]

Jen,
I have faith in you!
Nothing is ever easy...but it's not impossible!
Like I said before, I want to see you grow and overcome it! 

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 1:40 PM jenmarth13@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  Thank you. I do believe I have the strength to overcome this. It’s just not easy for me.

 

[Lonshitox Luciftias]

Good evening sis, what i can only tell you is that the Gods is always there, if you are a dedicated Zevist and going through this emotional stuffs (Which i had been), i have realized that they are testing your emotional strength if how far can you go with emotional battles and if how can you overcome this emotional stuffs. 
I have also realized that the Gods wants you to make a move (Spiritual and Physical) that is why they are making you feel this way, as the Gods is strict in making ourselves the better version of us
I do really hope for the best for you and i know that the Gods will not disappoint you with what you are going through nowadays. 
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 4:41 AM, jenmarth13@... [JoyofSatan666]<[email protected] wrote:   Thank you. I do believe I have the strength to overcome this. It’s just not easy for me.

 

[ladyaspis1]

Goodmorning to everyone~
I was always very quiet and lonely. I thought that I'll always be alone. last week I lost my mind and I tried to kill myself. fortunately, I failed. I know that Father saved my life . it was not my time. You cannot imagine how thankful Im right now.
I know its just my thing but i wanted to share it with you. Please never give up. Just do the meditations and be stronger. And later you can show Father and gods how powerful you are.
Just never give up!
Hail Zeus~

 

[kunrbert]

Can anyone tell me wich Runes can I use to make my Rituals more effective?